Your 2011 Atlanta Falcons Worst Player: The Voting
It's time to suck all the cheer out of the end-of-year voting for one round, as we pick the worst player on the 2011 Falcons.
Please note that this isn't a vote on anyone's career, but just the season that just got through. There are players on this list who are enjoying otherwise fine lives in the NFL. Some of these players arguably had pretty decent season, but it depends on the perspective you're coming from, I suppose.
Let's meet our candidates.
Sam Baker: Ineffective, injured, benched, back into the game out of position and incredibly ineffective again. Baker was undone in part by circumstances out of his control, but it's not every day you see a three-year starter at left tackle and former first round pick riding the pine.
Peria Jerry: This nomination is also based on pedigree. Jerry simply didn't do a whole heck of a lot in 2011. Given his seeming effectiveness in short spurts, it's kind of puzzling that he couldn't get more snaps.
Thomas DeCoud: Routinely beat up for taking bad angles to the ball and missing on tackles, which is what I suspect he was nominated for here.
Ray Edwards: Great against the run but a major disappointment as a pass rusher. That's about all you need to know.
Dunta Robinson: Woeful in coverage throughout the year, though how much of that was scheme is up for debate.
Tyson Clabo: He makes this list for allowing a team-high number of sacks and committing a few penalties that really stuck with fans.
Garrett Reynolds: Mostly for bombing at right guard.
Matt Ryan, Tony Gonzalez, and Julio Jones: Yes, this somehow happened.
You know the drill. Vote!
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This will be the on time all year...
When Baker will not get beat.
GATA!
by Jman781 on Feb 9, 2012 12:09 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Oh damn
rec’d
I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture
by a hooter's baby on Feb 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Peria Jerry
I’ve been one of his biggest supporters and got upset when people started calling him a bust. So when Babs injured his MCL, I expected Jerry to step up prove and the doubters wrong. Jerry proclaimed himself fully healthy so to see him disappear during games was disappointing. He was such a non-factor that I actually started checking the breaking news posts during the games to make sure he wasn’t injured. Not only has Peters taken his job, but Vance Walker has outplayed him as well. I’m officially declaring Jerry a bust.
by leonw92 on Feb 9, 2012 12:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
rec'ed
I still can’t get that shot anquan bolden gave jerry last yr that made him fold up like a lawn chair out my head..I thought jerry was gonna b good but me now c him as a jumbo marshmellow. A waisted 1st rd pick.I wish him well tho but he isn’t cutting it
Been a falcons fan since the big starter jackets was in style
by turnj35 on Feb 9, 2012 1:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ray Edwards
We got him for pass rush… enough said.
by tylerj19 on Feb 9, 2012 12:48 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I'm alright with you thinking he was worst this season
because no he did not have a good sesaon pass rush wise, but don’t start saying he is a terrible player. I don’t understand how people have forgotten the shortned offseason already. He came to a team in the middle of training camp, injured and so had such a short time to learn the playbook and how the defense works. I’m not saying he had a good year but seriously cut the guy some slack for this season.
Ok
I’m not the type of guy who makes excuses for grown a$$ men who play a child’s game for crazy amounts of money.
I don’t understand how people have forgotten the shortned offseason already.
I’ll tell you how, players broke age old team records, Marino’s record was finally broken, rookies broke and set rookie passing records, and check this man rookies broke rookie sack records. All after that same shortened offseason you want us to excuse Ray Edwards for. “Excuses are for losers”, my coach said that quote everyday and it still rings true.
Fine ok Ray Edwards played badly for us in his first year with us
That instantly makes him a terrible player despite a history of being a good, not excellent but good, pass rusher. I mean If we want to judge a players ability after one season we should’ve cut White long before now, and perhaps Matt Ryan should’ve been cut after 2009 and the Giants should’ve cut Eli Manning last year after he threw league high interceptions. One season is not a good enough indication of a player’s full ability.
Also yes Ryan and White broke team records with the shortend offseason but those were 2 players who have had years and years of experiance playing with each other and know the offensive playbook almost perfectly. Those were also career records if Im not mistaken something a shortened offseason would have little effect on. Marino’s record was broken by Brady and Brees, 2 Hall of Fame QBs playing in Schemes built around them, and with running up scores. Ray Edwards is in no way and elite and future Hall of Fame DE and so that comparrasion is stupid. Ok yes Rookie sack records were broken, by players who for all we know ARE better than Edwards, these could be elite players who turn in to HoF players again, not something people expected of Edwards. There is also the fact those rookies will have had the defensive playbooks since the draft, a lot longer than Edwards had his. These rookies also werent coming of an injury and were practicing with the teams for the entirety of training camp and in player oragnised practices before that. I’m sorry but there is not a single event you have mentioned that actually compares to the situation Edwards was in when he came to Atlanta.
I’m not saying Ray Edwards is an amazing DE and next year he will come out with 27 sacks and we’ll all love him. I’m not even saying that next year he will definately do better than this season, I’m just saying how about we withhold our pitchforks for now and give the guy and actual chance.
Breaking my own rule
Ordinarily,I wouldn’t vote on this topic mainly because I don’t know nearly enough about the extent of the injury circumstances for several of the listed players.
But I’m going to do it anyway,knowing first hand what its like to try to play injured and your body just wont get it done.It’s fair to suspect that the accumulation of and frequency of injuries have torpedoed Sam Bakers career so far.But that aside,the worst performance by a single player this season was Sam Baker playing guard. UGHHGGHGH
Seriously?
Who nominated those last three? Yeah Julio Jones really stunk with his eight touchdowns and 17.7 YPC average.
by Alex Welch on Feb 9, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Same guy who nominated Baker for best player
Joke nominations, but there we are…
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Baker it is
Atlanta gave up two 2nd round picks ( 3rd and 17th in round 2) and the 4th pick of the 4th rd in order to move up and “grab” Baker. Strangely, The only OT selected other than Baker until the 3rd round was Duane Brown who was picked 5 spots AFTER Baker and has started 59 games and was All Pro this season. While hindsight is 20-20, seems that we gave up a lot for him when he or Brown would have been there in round 2. None of the picks we traded away were used for a OT. Granted Baker has been injured, and bad backs and O linemen are a combonation not unlike bourbon and dynamite, but in hindsight, this is on TD and the Falcon brass. We were loaded with picks in 2008 and in hindsight, we squandered 3 picks. Take a look at the 2008 draft, and the players that could have been had in the spots we gave away to move up.
1st round bust
baker,jerry are disopointing for sure,think jerry may be the worse TD pick yet,at least there were 2 yrs of ok play from baker ,Dont know why reynolds cant play any better the guy is huge to bad we cant injeck a mean strick into him
@capl atl
man those picks really hurt us for baker and now we let him walk i bet there had to be scouts ripping us good for that move ya know there isnt a lineman on the saints OL
that is higher than a 4 round pick i think
not to mention
that we moved into the 1st round and paid more than we should have. But it is easy to 2nd guess once you have the the details play out. It really hurts to go back and look at the draft and the picks we gave up, but, if you are a glutten for pain, here is a good link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft
Since 2006 the Saints have constructed,through the draft,
one of the top QB protecting Olines in the NFL.All of the picks were in rounds 2 thru 5 and include two all pro Guards and capped it off with a 2nd year undrafted,journeyman FA Center.Their interior line is the best I’ve ever seen.The space Brees has to step forward into a pocket with integrity is the envy of the league.
voting
Baker….DeCoud…..Peria….Edwards in that order. DeCoud just a notch about Chris Houston (remember him? that was a Thomas draft pick {right?}). Baker a BIG draft bust, Peria equally bad draft pick, just didn’t perform as poorly as Baker in 2011.
Could be wrong
but i think Houston was 2007 the year before TD started drafting for us.
Houston was the year before
But he went to Detroit,where they are serious about defensive line play,and whaddaya know.Houston can play.Imagine that.We couldn’t get him out of town fast enough.
DR gets my vote
People seem to think it was a scheme problem and that he will be great as a tight coverage guy. I hope they are right, but I just see a guy that isn’t applying himself. It’s not that he was just getting beat, it was that he always seemed out of position, even further away from the line of scrimmage or the play that BVG asked him to be. On the few occasions where he was covering a receiver he would often get beat. And as hard as he likes to hit, there were plenty of times I saw him bite on fakes and take bad angles.
@JoshuaG
I agree with many of your observations, and you are right that he seem out of position, but that does have a lot to do with the soft zone they played. Qb’s took advantage in the “trade off” zone which made it appear that both he and the safety were both out of position. Lack of QB pressure can make DB’s look much worse than they are. That said, you might argue that Grimes didnt appear the same and again you are right, but keep in mind, that Grimes lined up on the opponents #1 much of the time, and in many cases that is the QB’s first option. When the QB looks to that side, Grimes still had man coverage in the soft zone and the QB checked to his next option. Dunte in many cases was covering that 2nd option and in the process of transfering responsibility. Let’s all hope that Dunte preforms at the level he did in Houston which is why we paid a premium for him. I expect that Grimes will not be returning and Dom Franks will be the man on that side in 2012. The Nolan style will give up some really big plays, but over-all the defense should show improvement with the scheme change alone.
I hope you are right
I really do, but I expect a little more flexibility from a guy who makes 5+ million a year to play CB. If it was my money, I’d ask him to learn to play zone or man-to-man or whatever the coverage calls for. Seems like a a lot of money for a guy who can only play one type of coverage. To me, that sounds like the guy wasn’t willing to learn and buy into the system. I don’t doubt his talent, and I gave him a pass for his first year on a new team (which was actually much better than this year).
I believe in Nolan, our LB corps and the depth we have on the D-line. Our secondary is a concern. If Grimes leaves, that puts the spotlight on DR to step up and I haven’t seen anything to make me believe he is ready for that. Way too many people here seem to assume he will be as good as he was at his best in Houston, but that was a few years ago, which is a long time in this league.
Interesting
that 40% of TDs first round picks are nominated for worst Falcon (I don’t give the Jones nomination any credence) and two of his three big free agent signings are also. And the bad thing is, all those nominations have at least some to a lot of credence.
Maybe you guys are catching on to where the real problem is.
first round picks under TD:
2008: Ryan and Baker
2009: Jerry
2010: Spoon
2011: JJ
so 2 of 5 were busts. If this were baseball, anyone hitting .400 would be in the HoF. On the flip side, Ryan has been to the Pro Bowl, Spoon was a snub and a case could be made for JJ as well. I would gladly take a 60% success rate.
Anytime you can find a way to blame TD you do, did he fire you from something? I find more credibility in peoples reviews if they can say good and bad but I cant ever recall you saying something good about TD. If you have, than sorry for saying that.
Dont cloud the issue with facts!
by muuzilla on Feb 9, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the super bowl teams last 4 years #1 picks:
NE:
08: Mayo
09: no pick
10: McCourty
11: Solder
NYG:
08: Phillips
09: Nicks (took 3 years for him to blossom and only 1 for JJ)
10: JPP
11: Amukamara
How do these compare to ours?
Dont cloud the issue with facts!
by muuzilla on Feb 9, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How do these compare to ours?
Extremely well unfortunately.
08: Mayo starts at LB and has played well
09: no pick
10: McCourty starts at CB and has played well
11: Solder starts at LT and has played well
08: Phillips very good starter
09: Nicks you know the story here, one of the stars in the SB
10: JPP beast of a Dlineman and PASS RUSHER
11: Amukamara injury
T’aint no 40% failure rate here.
What is your point?
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 9, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
simple
NE has 3 starters from the last 4 drafts. NYG has 3 starters (possibly 4 with Amukamara and Nicks wasnt a stud until this year). We have 3 starters. Not sure, but has any of NE’s picks been to the Pro Bowl yet? I think JPP is the only NYG to go so far, right? We have 1 and a snub and another that if he would not have missed those games would be there as well.
In short, NE=0 Pro Bowlers?, NYG=1 Pro Bowler. ATL=1 Pro Bowler.
Dont cloud the issue with facts!
So
every pick is a solid to very good to star caliber player by the Giants and Pats save Amuk who was injured.
And you compare that to our 2 of 5 players being a bust, and defend it on Ryan making the pro bowl one year and consider that superior drafting?
Really, are you sure????
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 9, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
To answer your question...
Mayo went to the Pro Bowl in 2010 (He was also an All-Pro that season). Devin McCourty also went to the Pro Bowl in 2010 (and yes, he was also an All-Pro that season). JPP was a Pro Bowler in 2011 (and my gosh, he was an All-Pro that year as well). So to compare, the Patriots have three starters out of three picks, and two Pro-Bowlers/All-Pros. The Giants have three (likely four) starters out of four, one All-Pro/Pro Bowler, and one Pro Bowl snub. And the Falcons have three starters out of five, one Pro-Bowler, one snub, and zero All-Pros. It’s not even a close comparison by any means. I like TD’s picks, but they certainly have not been as successful as the Giants or Patriots.
"He has lived up to the legendary billing... And the legend is born in Calvin Johnson!" -Wes Durham
by sportsfan4life2012 on Feb 10, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
my point was
that our picks are not as bad as people make them out to be. There is a reason NE is always in super bowl contention and why the NYG are always (even during this season when they werent doing so well) included as deep playoff contenders. I picked the 2 best teams this year based on being in the super bowl to show that yes, our picks werent as great as theirs, but we arent too far behind either, end definitely not so far behind as to say those that are doing our drafting suck.
Dont cloud the issue with facts!
Anytime you can find a way to blame TD you do, did he fire you from something? I find more credibility in peoples reviews if they can say good and bad but I cant ever recall you saying something good about TD.
That’s just his thing, don’t get hung up on it. No one’s going to be able to change his mind, you’re just going to waste your time trying.
That’s just his thing, don’t get hung up on it. No one’s going to be able to change his mind, you’re just going to waste your time trying.
Then dispute what my points are big boy, you think we are loaded on personnel, make your case.
Please see above reply post on my positives on TD.
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 9, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
If this were baseball, anyone hitting .400 would be in the HoF
Tain’t baseball, tis football draft choices. Different you see.
(quote) I cant ever recall you saying something good about TD. (quote)
I have given TD and Smith, and in my mind more Smith than TD, ample credit for the turnaround and for TD, the first year draft.
My mind was blown how well they did.
After that, save TG, the personnel moves have been suspect in SO many areas.
And that is sacrilege, especially on this board, but my opinion on TD is getting more and more to the forefront.
Look at the selections for worse Falcons. Two No 1s, and 2 of 3 BIG free agents signings by TD.
That is the people, not Whopper. Look at the record closely and answer this, how many starters (and yes, I mean this year), do you expect from this draft?
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 9, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
The Falcons are just behind the Saints at $100.2 million. But Atlanta’s situation isn’t as complicated as New Orleans’. The Falcons do have some free agents they want to keep, starting with linebacker Curtis Lofton and cornerback Brent Grimes. But those two combined won’t eat up as much cap space as Brees. Besides, if the Falcons do want to be big players in free agency, there are some moves they could make to create room and the first one I’d point to would be releasing left tackle Sam Baker.
Baker's bags are already packed
Its alot like the Jamaal Anderson situation last year. There is no way ATL will pay Sam Baker a hefty salary in 2012 to be a rotational guy or to ride the pine.
Ah Peria Jerry
Was really hoping this would be the year when he turned into a disruptive force in the middle, disrupting the pocket, forcing RB’s to try and bounce outside or QB’s to roll right into Abe’s waiting arms…but no.
Instead we got a guy who disappeared. There were times that people posted wondering if he even dressed for the game. All we heard durning camp was that he was flying around like a demon, 100% healthy, this is the year. When Babs went down, I thought, ok, this is his chance, this is when mwalex’s wish comes true and I stop crying about us not drafting Clay Matthews. Well, I still wish we had Matthews!
I never expected Rod Coleman numbers but I did expect him to be able to fend off a 7th round pick for a higher spot in our DT rotation. He’s basically a tackling dummy out there advanced stats be damned!!
I wish it could be televised when they cut Peria Jerry.
Just like it was televised when he was drafted before 200+ players who were better than him.
Exactly
All we heard was how good Jerry looked during training camp so I expected him to be one of the breakout players in 2011. I’ve never been so dissapointed in a player who I wanted (very badly) to succeed. He won’t count alot towards the salary cap in 2012 but getting outplayed by Vance Walker can’t be a good sign for Jerry.
he shows up
u have to look on the bench hes there bs’in with all the other bs,ers that set on the pine
Honestly I think that objectively Reynolds was the worst
But as far as value is concerned, Baker has been the worst because the Falcons spent a first and second-round pick on him essentially
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
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Not taking Baker's prior years into account,
he wins worst player of the year. Comparable to Reynolds in almost every category this year. Then, like you said, knowing what he cost compared to GR. That just makes me sick. At least GR cant be called a bust, no one ever expected anything more than a backup role in the 1st place.
You are right
Reynolds was bad.But,in fairness,he was always considered a project with huge eventual upside.Still needs to add bulk to the tall frame.Wasn’t expected to contribute much this past season.Baker was so bad at guard I couldn’t watch.
Ha ha ha h that Cam Newton quote is hysterical.
I can't give it to Reynolds simply because...
it’s not his fault LOL. This coaching staff plugged this poor guy into the starting line up. No way in hell should Garrett Reynolds ever be associate with the staring line up on any NFL football team. It’s kinda like the Mark Sanchez thing, no way in hell Mark Sanchez should have been drafted that high and thrown on the field with Rex guaranteeing SuperBowls, you just knew it was gonna get ugly. I knew the Reynolds thing was gonna get ugly and it did. He will be cut soon and Andrew Jackson will take his place.
I remember when Johnson and Reynolds were the heirs apparent to Dahls guard spot
I was concerned that if he was stood up by a DT, Matty would have a hard time seeing over his 6’7" height when stepping up into the pocket. Well, I was kinda right! He had trouble seeing but it was because RGGR was staggering back toward him,collapsing the pocket right in on Matt!
Mark should have stayed another year at USC. He was good the year he came out but very rough around the edges. He’s shown flashes but quickly falls back into barely averageness. is that a word? Spell check says no. I say yes!
I think everyone, including the staff forgot he was on the team!
7 tackles, 3 assists,1 pass defended, 1 forced fumble, 4 QB hits. In the advanced stats world he ranked 3rd out of our 4 DT’s only above the USS Babs. The only reason I can see for that is that Babs was actually on the field where Jerry’s numbers were akin to a late season baseball call up, batting .800 in minimal at bats.
I can't remember which game it was but...
Peria Jerry came stumbling on the field. I had not seen him in a while since he rarely plays and the first thing that struck me is he looked like he had just gotten finish eating Thanksgiving dinner. Maybe the game was sometime at the end of November but he looked like he had just put some turkey bones in the trash can. Maybe they are asking him to put on weight if so he is definitely following instructions. I keep telling people when this guy was drafted he told the media the Falcons were the ONLY team that brought him in for an interview. Now we see why. This guy will be 28 yrs old when the season starts and has a total of 20 tackles and 2 sacks to his credit. I wont call him a bust yet because he was badly hurt but the bus is warming up.
That's hilarious
There were a ton of red flags when we drafted him but I gave him the benefit of the doubt. He’s 2 yrs removed from the knee injury and by all reports he’s 100% healthy. I avoided calling him a bust until this year. He went from #1 draft pick in 2009 to 4th string DT in 2011.
Are you serious? The only team??? I did not know that
We had need in two areas. Clay Matthew, Maualuga and Laurinaitis were all available at LB. We went DT, understandable since we needed one but good god did we miss with him!
The only solace i can take from that debacle is that the patriots passed on Matthews TWICE, trading down and out of the first round! They ended up with Chung, pretty solid when not hurt and Ron Brace(35 tackles in 29 games, no sacks, hasn’t played a full season), the Peria Jerry of the AFC. Sometimes even the genius Bill can be too smart for himself!
That is right, but there is more
1) Jerry had a history of injury problems in college
2) Matthews was sitting there when TD selected this bust as mentioned in other posts. Note that in prior years and posts, every time I rant against this selection, I am told Matthews wouldn’t fit into our system.
Here are their stats (three year averages)
Tackles Sacks Hurries Ints
54 10 51 1 -————→Guess who this is
3 .6 ?? 0 -————→Guess who this is
Honors – NFC defensive rookie of the year, 3x pro bowler, 1x all pro, 1x NFC defensive player of the year, 1x Butkus award winner————> Guess who this is
Honors – none—————>Guess who this is
Glad he couldn’t play in our scheme, which has not had a passer rusher added since TD stepped in the joint.
And for you guys gonna give me the hindsight business, I railed against the Jerry pick the day it was made just like the Jones deal.
it is these types of terrible decisions, that make the difference between being an elite team, and getting wiped out in the playoffs.
Think about it.
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 9, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
How about this
The Pats, who just played in a SB and need pass rush help, traded the pick that was used on Matthews and took a DT a few picks later. Essentially the same situation as us and the DT they picked has done just as little. Then the next year they didn’t even have a first round pick(spygate) yet they are still made the SB. Missing out on a first rounder isn’t the death sentence you make it out to be.
As to the original post I highly doubt we were the only team to interview him, he had a first round grad from most/all scouting sites. It would be pretty weird for all teams to avoid an interview with a guy with such a high grade.
Also wondering
Does anyone know how much Jerry has really played, like his snap count? I can’t recall Jerry making any plays good or bad. The Falcons seem very slow/hesitant to make any moves or shake ups unless forced to by injury.
The Pats
I’ll let the Pats take care of the Pats. I am a Falcons fan. But I will make one comment, Brady covers up a lot of sin, and we don’t have a Brady.
“Missing out on a first rounder isn’t the death sentence you make it out to be.”
Yeah, well it depends on what you want for the franchise. Will the franchise still exist? Yes. But you miss on 40% of your first round picks, the SB ain’t in your future.
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 10, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
If People had know Matthews
was gonna be that good he would of went top 5, TD just went bpa that filled a need at the time, its not really his fault jerry just cant play, and the baker was good at the time but i wanted duane brown and we all saw how the worked out. IN the end the only flaw by TD was baker, hes not like millen who drafts a WR four years in a row…
what is Bakers CAP hit in 2012
By all I can tell on Sportrac, he is scheduled to make under 2m this season and if cut or traded, there is no CAP hit whatsoever. Not sure how they accelorated 11 of the 13 million his contract called for over the first 4 years. Are these numbers accurate? Anyone? Anyone?
I have seen the future!
Sam baker wins, and a part of Dave feels bad about it!
by FLA_Falcon on Feb 9, 2012 6:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Baker "wins" hands down
I do think our Worst of Both Worlds defense- soft zone DBs and little blitzing or stunts hurt both Robinson and Jerry. Now if Nolan can’t get them to be effective then it’s time to chalk them up as busts. I am one of the optimistic ones about DR’s future. He at least has a good track record playing a more physical style. With Jerry, I just remember the way he looked when he first arrived. If anyone can get him back to that level of play, Coach Nolan can. I’m more concerned with our OL. They have to take a bunch of overperforming late draft picks and undrafted FAs and build them into a solid unit again. It’s going to take a good coach and some smart moves in the draft and FA to improve this line.
trifecta of worst performance players
My trifecta is really a hybrid trifecta:
Sam Baker, Peria Jerry = worst, GONE,GONE, GONE!
Dunta Robinson, Ray Edwards = NFL (not for long) too bad it doesn’t work to cut them with the cap issues.
Eric Weems, Thomas DeCoud = Looking forward to FA, be looking for a job!
Dis-honorable mention:
Chris Owens (unless he takes Weems place on returns, he does have the speed!)
Kelvin Hayden: Health??? Otherwise a decent player
Garrett Reynolds: Should have put him on practice squad and rostered Valdez!
Any Jaguar player signed in 2012 FA, other than MJD.
The results were inconclusive.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.

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