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Falcons Quote of the Day: Offensive Line Smoffensive Line

I know what you're thinking: "Best title ever!"

I'd agree, except I'm sure I'll devise something even cooler at some point.

In any case, in case you missed it, Pro Football Focus released the first half of their o-line rankings. We came in 17th. Yikes. Who can we thank for this great honor?

To start, I'd like to thank Sam Baker for having his ridiculously t-rexeseque arms, without which we might be able to protect Matt Ryan's blindside. I also have to thank Thomas Dimitroff. Without his insistence on developing offensive linemen, we might have signed Harvey Dahl and thereby avoided this esteemed homage. Most of all, I want to thank Roger Goodell and the NFL owners. Thank you for screwing up the 2011 off-season and keeping our big uglies knee deep in funyuns and rainbow sherbert.

The fact that they lost only one (Harvey Dahl) and dropped off so significantly has to be a worry for where this unit is heading. They struggled to get much push in the run game, and didn’t do a great job of keeping their QB upright when it mattered [...]

Best Player: Tyson Clabo (+13.7) is a good right tackle who holds his own in pass protection (the second-ranked RT in our Pass Blocking Efficiency), though you’d like to see him do a little more in the run game.

Worst Player: It wasn’t a surprise when Sam Baker (-16.4) was benched, in the same way it wasn’t a surprise when Garrett Reynolds (-13.8) took a ride on the pine. Both men looked horrible when they saw the field, though Baker (especially his woeful Week 2) gets the nod [...]

If you're curious, we ranked 23rd in run blocking, 13th in pass blocking, and 10th in penalties. The penalties rank surprises me, because it seemed like we struggled mightily in that category.

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Frankly I'm surprise we were even as high as 17th

It seems every guy on the line is either weak at pass protection or run blocking, but not strong at both. It remains to be seen as to how much Michael Turner (or whoever is rushing for us) will be a part of the offense and whether the line can handle introduction of a screen game.

The quotes Mularkey and Smitty gave about the failure of a screen game, citing the inability of the line to block the perimeter, is the scariest part about next years line, assuming we can shore up LT and sign McClure to a short term deal.

Atlanta sports have singlehandedly crushed my soul.

by Beachy Keen on Feb 23, 2012 2:45 AM EST reply actions  

17th sounds about right

FO has us a notch worse in run blocking (27th), but also a notch better in pass blocking (7th) than PFF, but it all comes down to: Average. Translation: Unaccaptable.

by wiesengrund on Feb 23, 2012 8:22 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Again with the T-Rex arms...

I’m going to make this my flogging horse. Sorry. The criticism of Sam Baker should be his play when injured / after injury. When healthy, he’s been moderately decent (see other years). When injured or after injury, he’s been pretty “not good” (see this year). A bad back will do that to you. The length of his “t-rex arms” didn’t change from when he was healthy (and played decent) to when he was unhealthy and needing back surgery (and played poorly). His arms are not the issue, his health is (likewise, any debate about his drafting should be focused on his injury history at USC and whether he was a worthwhile medical gamble, rather than focusing on the group-think “t-rex” arm length). When healthy he’s decent, when not healthy, he’s not decent.

Paraphrasing from my earlier grousing about this: NFL combine stats for Sam Baker’s arm length were arms 33 and 1/8 inches long. His arms are longer than Jake Long’s (measured that same year at the same combine, likely by the same person using the same method). Perhaps you’ve heard of Jake Long. Jake Long’s arms were measured at 32 and 7/8 inches long. Ryan Clady’s arms during that same combine were 1 inch longer than Baker’s. I don’t even think 1 inch of reach matters in heavyweight boxing (or really, anything else in life, unless you’re reaching for a lightsaber and don’t have the force…). I think the NFL combine measurements of these three should be considered more likely to be accurate. I can provide links to the nfl.com pages if people would prefer.

In sum, I don’t think Baker actually has t-rex arms. If, however, he does have t-rex arms, those t-rex arms are not actually to blame for his poor play this year (and his poor play during parts of other seasons). Instead, you can directly correlate his poor play to his (un)health, and his decent play to his health. With Baker, there seems to be a much more dramatic difference in his level of play when healthy and unhealthy than other players (e.g., Lofton was still pretty damn decent when he had to have surgery on both knees after the season). Perhaps it’s a toughness issue. More likely, since it’s his back, it’s a fundamentals issue. Regardless of the reason, it’s a significant enough problem, that’s been repeated enough, that I’m fine with them letting him go. But it’s because of his health (or lack thereof), not mythical t-rex arms.

End rant (maybe).

by NB on Feb 23, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I understand where the arm length issue comes from

but I agree with you that it has nothign to do with his poor play. His health, toughness, or desire are the issue here.

He can’t stay healthy or isn’t tough enough to play though it? I don’t know the nature of the
injury(ies), but most back injuries are painful and debilitating,

Does he even want to play anymore? Most O-lineman are quiet and don’t get the air time that someone with Roddy’s personality will get. But he has to know about all of his detractors out here, and if he had a big desire or motivation to be elite he would have said something by now.

Sorry for any typos, this work keyboard is horrendous.

by Whyte Bler 000 on Feb 23, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think

It’s more of a joke at this point. Baker has failed for whatever reason and his short arms are an easy/funny excuse for why. I don’t know what he measured compared to others all I know is I have seen him and his arm’s do look weirdly short for his body.

by Hutch11 on Feb 23, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with everything you said except

I think even if Dahl was back they would have played poorly. The OLine depended more on 5 guys working as one and that was destroyed when they had no preseason. We don’t have any great talents on the line. We’ve got a bunch of pretty good guys whose whole is greater than the sum of their parts as long as they have enough practices.

by drmondo667 on Feb 23, 2012 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Average season statistics only mean what they mean

Beyond season statistics,the Falcons have reached the point where it only matters how you measure up against the top third of teams in the NFL.The term ‘not competitive’ describes the Falcons lines of scrimmage performance against the better half of that group of teams.And it is not close.

And in case noone has noticed,there are more teams gaining on us,
than in danger of being surpassed by us,in that regard.

by dawg1060 on Feb 24, 2012 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

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