Roddy White + Dropped Passes = ?
by James Rael on Feb 2, 2012 12:10 AM EST
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If you're a game thread regular, then you've seen many Falcoholics lament Roddy White's incurable case of the dropsies. That ire is somewhat justified, as he did drop more balls than any other WR in the league. But, let's be fair, he was targeted more and caught more passes than any WR not named Wes.
Read this article if you have a moment. Out of 91 ranked WRs, Roddy's drop rate ranked 72nd; however, some notable WRs had worse drop rates than Roddy (Desean Jackson, Brandon Marshall, and Donald Driver). Moreover, almost all of the 20 WRs with the lowest drop rates weren't targeted anywhere near as much as Roddy was.
Here's the bottom line: Yes he dropped a lot of passes this year. Nonetheless, those dropped passes, in my humble but accurate opinion, don't diminish his contributions. Not at all. He drops a lot of balls. But he catches a lot of balls for a lot of yardage. Heck, he's had a top ten yardage total for the past four years. This season he (and Wes Welker) earned more first downs than any other player in the league. I for one can look past 15 dropped passes if he's contributing at that level.
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i think half drops would have been tough catches
do they go back and review the drops?
by Marques D Chaney on Feb 2, 2012 12:26 AM EST reply actions
Random but why is there a half naked guy in a ski mask as the background?
by pierre02 on Feb 2, 2012 12:28 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I know right?
BTW i never liked that show
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I think for me
It was the timing of the drops. The potential game winning catch (or game extending at least) against Tampa early in the year comes to mind. I don’t mind the occasional drop, but that one in particular was a game changer. I have come to expect our WR1 to make catches when they count.
That being said, Roddy is still a top tier WR, and a big reason we have enjoyed the success that we have over this 4 year period.
by FalconfanPhil on Feb 2, 2012 12:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Honestly, as much as I dont like it,
I can live with 15 dropped passes. Here’s the way I look at it:
Targeted 181 times (11.3/game)
Caught 100 (6.2/game)
First downs 77 (4.8/game)
Drops 15 (.9/game)
When Roddy is targeted he catches it 55% of the time, catches it for a first down 43% of the time and drops it 8% of the time. As much as I hate drops, those are stats that I can deal with as a fan, IMO.
by dirtybirds404 on Feb 2, 2012 12:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You're correct re: his targets ...
But according to the above-linked analysis, only 115 of those targets were catchable.
i agree with falconfanphil
the timing of some of his drops is whats bad, you noted the TB game but don’t forget the winning TD of the 1st saints game. It seems as if the whole team can’t make the plays against good teams.
I agree with FalconfanPhil and 50 CALIBER
The timing of the drops is what hurts so much. But if you look at the bigger picture it’s the entire team’s fault for continually being in that position where we need a great catch to win on out last play.
by FLA_Falcon on Feb 2, 2012 7:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
roddy consistantly gets open..
Can’t say that about a lot of recievers in the league..that’s good enuff 4me bc he always give us a chance 4 a play..every1 is gonna drop a pass here & there.he is a baller & I look4 him2 continue2 make plays for yrs in a falcon uniform.
Been a falcons fan since the big starter jackets was in style
by turnj35 on Feb 2, 2012 7:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Indeed timing..
Everyone drops passes, so really no big deal. But dropping passes for the win is unacceptable!
by DesertFalcon on Feb 2, 2012 8:17 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Let's not forget folks that JJ dropped his share as well
Including one that smacked him right in the hands on the last play of the game that would have gotten us to within 1 point of tying the Texans in that horrid game.
very true
It was his rookie season though. Nothing but upside for jj. I actually wouldnt mind seeing if we could get a high draft pick for rw though. He has been great for us but i think if we can resign hd it wont be hard to find a decent wr in the draft plus with a high draft pick we could address our real problems. (Ol and dl)
by ocfalcon on Feb 2, 2012 9:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Say what?
Why would you even consider trading RW? Are you serious? Whatever it is you’re smoking, STOP.
After his first 2 years we all thought Roddy was a bust
because of drops.He solved it then.He knows how to solve it again.I continue to maintain that we still haven’t seen the best of Roddy.Because of the poor Oline work in pass protection,he catches more passes in tighter windows,under more duress and from a QB under more pressure,than any of the top WRs in the league.There are alot of corners that can cover any WR for 4 seconds.
If we can get get Matty even average protection,the passing game will flourish.Otherwise,it will remain stagnant against good defenses.Otherwise,it wont matter much the coaches or the receivers or the TEs or the play calls.
I like Roddy
he’s still our #1 receiver. for all the talent that JJ possesses, he has yet to prove his durability and production over several year period.
HOWEVER, for all the talk about Roddy being among the top players in yardage and 1st downs etc. there’s a small problem with that – and that is Ryan’s tendency to lock in on his favorite target and Mularkey’s ability to completely forget about all of this weapons.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
It was a rough year
but I wouldn’t expect it to continue. True the timing was rough on a couple drops but I think 2010 when he was the deciding factor in a few games shows how clutch he can be. I really do not understand all this trade stuff, it was a down season for the team not just RW.
How does Roddy's 8% drop rate compare?
He’s targeted the most, so the most drops is acceptable IF the percentage is comparable to the Wes Welkers and Megatrons of the league, doncha think?
From here it looks like the glass is all the way full, but half of it's foam.
GO FALCONS!!
Wes lead the league last year
it happens. If Roddy strings a few years together I would start to worry, but as of right now it’s just one sort of bad season.
The dude has caught 100 balls back to back seasons!
Every WR, no matter how good is going to drop some passes. I remember two seasons ago Reggie Wayne dropped a pass that smacked him right in the hands in the endzone. Not crazy route run, no acrobatics. It was inside the ten, all he did was turn around and wait for the ball. It smacked him in the hands, he fumbled around with it and pretended to spike it to try and fool the refs. He didn’t.
That’s just one example of a stud WR dropping an easy catch. I think a lot of people have been a bit hard on ol Roddy.
People just have to complain about something.
If people want to focus on something that is a concern with Roddy, instead of looking a drops how about looking at the fact that he was tied for 49th for yards per reception. The ONLY WR that had over a 1000 yards receiving with a lower averge yards per catch was Welker. That cost ATL more games than his drops.
You also have to look at it from the Defense's point of view...
Given the Falcons’ somewhat predictable play schemes, opposing defenses KNOW Roddy’s going to get the ball. Just like they know TG will get it on 3rd down. The mere fact that Roddy’s caught as many as he has is a testament to his talent. I for one am proud of the way he has stepped up over the years (I remember one commentator years ago saying he couldn’t catch a cold).
If we ever get an unpredictable offense that utilizes all of our weapons, we’ll see Roddy really shine. I’m not one for shouting “trade!” over 15 drops. I think that’s a mistake.
by williamandrews31 on Feb 4, 2012 5:38 PM EST reply actions
Totally.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. As predictable as we were, Roddy still caught 100 balls. Any trade talk involving Roddy is just plain ole crazy. CRAZY!!
trading RW is foolish
you dont trade away a stud WR1, ever. Besides nobody’s mentioned the fact that Ryan had a lot of accuracy issues this year too. We already discussed how the receivers had to be acrobats at times to catch ryans passes this year. I’d say that would account for 4 or 5 of those drops easily. Would that make it better for all the RW traders(traitors ) out there? only 10 drops?
trade roddy?…. c’mon man! ya’ll silly.
WELL, THAT FREAKIN' BLOWED!!
2012 MAYBE?
probably not. lol
You are right about Ryan.
Too few times does Ryan hit receivers in stride.
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