Falcons Block Terry Robiskie To Jaguars
It wasn't a lock or anything, but it's interesting that the Falcons thought enough of Terry Robiskie to deny him permission to talk to Mike Mularkey.
This is old news that just recently came out, but I thought it would be worth discussing. After all, the Falcons were content to let Mike Mularkey walk and then raid Bob Bratkowski from the staff, neither of which were moves wringing hands over. The fact that they drew the line at Robiskie says something.
Under Robiskie, Roddy White has flourished, Julio Jones is growing and Harry Douglas put together a pretty good season. He's got a good rapport with that group, we know he can tutor WRs and the coaching staff likes him. It's little wonder they blocked him from interviewing elsewhere, particularly when you consider that Kevin Cone and Drew Davis might be pushing for a roster spot and will definitely need developing.
So I'm glad the Falcons made the move. I imagine they'll compensate Robiskie in some way for it, and that's fine too. Good coaches are good coaches, and the Falcons need to keep them around.
What are your thoughts?
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You guys have great WRs
let us have a good coach so we can have some too :(
Never!
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by Dave Choate on Feb 15, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
A team can only handle so much turnover in the coaching staff in one offseason
Keeping Robiskie around, since he would have only had a horizontal change (no immediate promotions for him in Jacksonville), is a great move, especially since it was clear our new offensive coordinator wants him around. He has done a good job with some very good talent, and I like to think that will continue for the next few years.
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Feb 15, 2012 9:57 AM EST reply actions
Sideways
I think that is a good portion of it – that it was an interview for the same level post.
We won’t know whether they wanted to keep BB or not since he moved from QB coach to OC. The team seems to have a very good policy of employee development (people are free to interview so long as the position would be an advancement). Makes me like the team and organization that much more. Excited that Koetter likes Robiskie and wanted to keep him with us (otherwise, it would have been easy to let Robiskie see the writing on the wall by letting him interview).
NFL rule.
Teams cannot block a coach form advancement opportunities. But they can block from vertical/downgraded positions. Falcon FO did nothing special. The only way they would have let this happen is if the did not want him to begin with, then why not just cut him.
Dave
My apologies for cluttering an article.
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by DopeFalcons on Feb 15, 2012 10:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Cluttering an article?
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by Dave Choate on Feb 15, 2012 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
My words on the Roddy's comments article
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by DopeFalcons on Feb 15, 2012 12:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No worries at all
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Harry Douglas
Dave,
Would love to know your thoughts on why Harry Douglass seemed to “disappear” in many games last year.
Was it scheme? Does HD have trouble reading defenses? Are he and Ryan not on the same page?
With Jones and White getting doubled, one would think that HD should have been much more of a factor.
Not to answer for Dave...
but I think it was scheme and coaching. I think we will see a much different offense hit the field this season…but that’s just me.
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by Blood_Talon on Feb 15, 2012 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
I think it's partly scheme, and partly because he's not the crispest route runner out there
I think he struggles a bit to get separation, which is why the quick routes over the middle were his bread and butter in 2011. If the team can figure out a way to use him better and get him open, he should be fine.
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by Dave Choate on Feb 15, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Jags got Jerry Sullivan
But it makes sense that the Jags would request to interview him. I wouldn’t have minded the guy that coached Roddy White but the guy they got is equally reputable so I guess we all win.
by KillJag on Feb 15, 2012 10:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
BTW
You guys are going to love Koetter. The Jags didn’t have the proper personnel to take full advantage of his scheme not to mention JDR’s ironfist style of rule.
by KillJag on Feb 15, 2012 10:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks KillJag.
A few questions if you dont mind?
Harry Douglas will be a FA coming up, and I think it will be the way Koetter sells his scheme whether they will try to resign him. What role does the slot play for Koetter? Is it more possession/underneath routes or deep/mid level shots? With Tony Gonzales role is the slot position less important?
Funny you ask...
BC I’m not sure anyone ever got to see his full scheme. What I can tell you is he got a few 300yd games out of Garrard and that is a feat in itself. I personally think Koetter would’ve called alot more mid/deep level routes if he had the proper players to do so. To be perfectly honest I felt like he was hindered alot in his tenure with the Jags. Falcons offense will improve next year if he’s allowed to do what he does best…pass the ball!
I like Robiskie and I am glad the FO put there foot down in regards to the Jag's...finally!!
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If I'm not mistaken
Isn’t Robiskie the coach that got Roddy’s mom’s cell phone number and would call her whenever Roddy was acting up or partying too much? Got to love that, talk about your unconventional coaching technique.
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I've never heard that...
but if that is true that is hilarious!
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Absolutely classic:
“The issue came to a head during offseason workouts, at which point Robiskie asked White to give him his mother’s phone number. "No way," White told him.
So Robiskie, a few weeks later, found White’s address and showed up unannounced.
Recalls White of Robiskie’s visit: "He said to my mom, ‘Give me your number, so when he’s in the clubs I can call you – and you can call him and tell him to go home.’ And she gave him her number! Ridiculous."
Robiskie’s version? "Me and Roddy had a falling-out, so I went to his house. I talked to his mama, and she gave me permission to keep my foot up his ass."
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by jcaustic on Feb 15, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Just beautiful.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Feb 15, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
Terry Robiskie is my hero
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I seriously can't believe I either forgot/didn't see that
Laughing so hard.
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Love the Fact that We are not letting key Pieces just walk away..
But on another note… Do any of you guys think we should try and get a top notch Safety this year?? I’m having a discussion with my friends and they seem to think that if we were to sign a Cliff Avril and Robert Mathis/Osi umenyora (letting The Predator Walk) then we wouldn’t need a new productive Safety. I think if we Sign Avril or Osi (keeping John Abraham) then we should sign a Dashon Goldson or a Laron Landry….. Your thoughts please???
by falcons101 on Feb 15, 2012 12:07 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Why no Goldson??
79 Tackles and 6 interceptions in 2011 is a pretty good Year. Not to mention the fact that he has never missed more than 2 games due to injury. Seem like a pretty decent and reliable player (also a Very hard hitter)
by falcons101 on Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
We don't havw the resources to make all this happen and get the pieces we need on the OL!!
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agreed
Just looking at possibilities that may help us make the next Step. (although getting a new OT and RG are major Needs as well)
by falcons101 on Feb 15, 2012 2:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Love the move to keep Robiskie
Ju Jo can get consistent WR coaching. I went back and looked at Jerry Rice rookie stats and man they look a lot like Ju Jo rookie stats. Koetter has got to be drooling at the mouth at the chance to utilize all of the weapons the Falcons have. I would like for HD to return to keep the consistency theme going however with the big 3 in White, Gonzalez, Ju Jo and a running game with Turner and Quiz there can only be so many balls thrown in his direction. Gotta figure Ju Jo targets will double as well as Quizz.
Haynesworth released...
again. I would not take a chance on this guy. He wants to play 3 technique and could play the 5 when we switch to 3-4. Thoughts?
I would take a flyer on him
Yea he has been a Big B***h but he can play in a 4-3 hands down. I went to the Redskins training camp the year they first Signed him and I’m telling you Nobody on the Oline could even Slow him down. Yes I know he has been a major problem the past 3 seasons but man add him to our Current defense and he Makes the entire Defense better be it run Support and Pass Rush. I’m telling you can you imagine if he came here and was Half if what he was in Tennessee?? He would Free up John Abraham and Ray Edwards as well as any blitzes we throw as well. I don’t think getting him to perform would be an issue seeing as how Mike Nolan’s specialty his getting guys to play their best at all times. That move makes sense to me but then again Alot if other moves do too.
by falcons101 on Feb 15, 2012 8:38 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
They should let him walk
The falcons WR’s on paper are top 5 in the league but IMO their top 10. Outside of Roddy none of our receivers run crisp routes especially HD. Now whether that’s the coach or the player something isn’t clicking. I guess it could be different under DK but TR been around here for awhile and the falcons haven’t had the best WR corps in recent memory.
by pierre02 on Feb 15, 2012 6:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Would NEVER
block a coach from taking to another team, but would make it clear that if they do, they are gone from here however it works out.
There is no other way. It you block them, at some level they will be pissed off, and at some level they were ready to move on to something else. Forcing a hand like this is a huge error, just stupid.
Would modify
that would hold true if a lateral move, if an move up, position to coordinator or coordinator to HC, I would not make the stipulation that they would lose their job if they interviewed,
by Whopper Dawg on Feb 15, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if they'll quietly pass him some more cash
Bring in his son for a tryout, that kind of thing.
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Depends on if they're blocking Robiskie, or if they're blocking the Jags.
Why would you want to make a horizontal move to THAT team, anyway?
(I think they blocked the Jags, not the coach. They expressed interest, we said no. I don’t see where Robiskie would be mad.)
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by Caleb Rutherford on Feb 16, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Falcons won't have another winning season under Mike Smith
Go Panthers!
by Atlantapanther on Feb 15, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions
Yeah this sounds uneducated.
by pierre02 on Feb 16, 2012 4:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I am wondering, however
…where the drops did come from last year. Probably one of the most terrifiying aspects of our offensive game, spread out over multiple guys at the position, and definitely not scheme- or QB-related, and hence neither Mularkey’s nor Ryan’s fault.
Just sayin’.
It's a good thought
I’m going to chalk it up to random chance unless the drops continue this season.
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