Is Mike Smith Too Soft?
Note that this is not to say Mike Smith is necessarily a "soft" coach, but are his methods softer than they should be. You can be hard and still be soft. (......wait, that doesn't sound right.)
In any case, I read this article by Jackie MacMullan over at ESPN, and it really got me thinking: Is our coach not holding players accountable enough? I recommend you take a look at the ESPN article. It provides insight as to how Bill Belichick coaches and, personally, I consider him the best head coach in the business right now. He gets the most out of his players, especially players like Julian Edelman, a former QB who now plays both sides of the ball. That's freakin' ridiculous!
But the thing that interested me was how he held his players responsible. He humiliates them, and you know what? I think that's a fantastic tactic. Roddy had drop after drop after drop this year, and it certainly would explain why it didn't get any better, if Smitty wasn't holding him accountable enough. He's a fantastic coach, but he might be suffering a bit from a "Let them do their thing" syndrome. We didn't really see our quality of play increase once it started decreasing, leading to an abysmal offensive effort in the playoffs.
Not all players had an issue with their quality of play, but in some cases, the lower quality of play didn't really improve, either.
What are your thoughts on the matter? I don't think we have any bad players/coaches or what have you, but I think some bad habits may have formed over the course of the season that either weren't fixed or weren't noticed or something.
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Maybe you shoulda said flaccid instead of soft.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Jan 30, 2012 4:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Perhaps
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 30, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
yes, tooo sooooft
It was plain to see that many times this season the team just was not prepared. Many times they still won due to being the better athletes, but when facing equals or better athletes, they got beat. Case in point….. the 2nd game versus the Saints. They had just come off a nice win over JAX and sure it was before Christmas and some guys needed rest, but he gave them extra days off??? Days that they could have met and watched film and tendencies. Not going to the mall. That is a nice thing to do…..but it is soft in that it shows he put being a nice guy b4 the team goal for the upcoming game in NOLA
I've never really thought about it like this before but I think you may be on to something.
Mike Smith was the perfect coach for us when we hired him. He took a team that was in shambles and rebuilt them from the ground up. Just put yourself in their shoes: your coach got fired, your face of the franchise went to prison, your new coach quit before the season was over, and you only won 4 games. We needed a coach to rebuild the players confidence, and show them that he had their back. now he has to grow with this team and realize that we don’t need that coach to lead us anymore. We need a coach to push us to that next level.
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 30, 2012 5:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
EXCELLENT POINT!
This is perfectly put. Smitty needs to get a bit more mean. You can be tougher and hold players accountable without being an ass. Smitty needs to do that to take this team to the next level. And if he doesnt prove to be that guy, then we need to move on to someone that is.
by MikeJolly on Jan 30, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even if he was soft...
…his job is on the line now, if he’s ever going to be a hard-ass, this will be the time.
I've posted it a few times but I'll say it again
Smitty was like the guy u first took that rusted out Corvette to. He got the dings out primered it and got the possums out of the muffler. But is he gonna be the guy you have blueprint your engine and install the state of the art sound system? Probably not.
Like the rest of this team, he has to evolve. He has to hold players AND coaches accountable sometimes and he did come close a few times this season if you read between the lines. Does that mean putting them in stocks and throwing tomatoes at them? No, well maybe…but probably no(yes!). But it does mean that when your idiot D coordinator runs up to you after the Seahawks storm back into a game they never should have been in to the point that they would have WON if they hadn’t run out of time, to shake hands with a sh!t eating grin on his face, you don’t shake his hand! You just keep trotting away from him and that grin will be gone and he’ll know he’s gonna get reamed when the cameras are off.
I’m sure Smitty knows that there’s a problem and is working on fixing it. God…how many times did he say that or something like that all season???
by aces666high on Jan 30, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Well you could look at it this way...
There are only a few “Great” coaches. When they do become available which doesn’t happen often they don’t come cheap and they typically go big market.
Mike Smith has accomplished something no other coach has done for this franchise. Sporting a winning record for 4 straight years. Pulling that off as a rookie coach considering the state of this franchise at the time is remarkable.
Yes he needs to adapt and make changes but I think thats whats been going on? I’m willing to roll the dice with MS…..It’s funny when a bad year ends in with playoff appearance; )
by FalcNole on Jan 30, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes & Amen!
Johnny come lately fans might not appreciate what Mike Smith has accomplished. I, on the other hand, love the man for what he has given to this franchise…relevance. He will have have playoff success and I hope he coaches the Falcon for the next 20 years!
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by Blue Falcon on Jan 31, 2012 1:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
IMO
Mike Smith is what I call a WIP. Work in Progress. The guy has never been a HC at any level and he is learning year by year how to handle the many difficult aspects of being an NFL HC. In listening to Coach Smith give interviews and answer questions the one thing that stands out to me at least is his lack of articulation. As a successful NFL HC you have to be able to communicate effectively on many different levels. I get the impression Coach can get a little dull in his presentation. We get the same speech after each win or loss and the team is probably getting the same dull responses in the locker room. The great coaches know how to change up the presentation, to stimulate the minds of their players and make the players buy in and play balls out every week like its them against the world. I just don’t get the sense that Coach Smith has the communication skills to pull this off. Obviously Coach Smith is a good HC and can turn a team around and put it on a winning path. My question is does he possess the skills to take a team to the ultimate level, the level at which all players buy in and commit to one another for a run at greatness. In listening to him speak I just don’t feel it yet. Therefore he remains in WIP status.
I can't disagree with you
he’s a first time head coach and is still figuring things out.
I think this is a point where we may actually see how flexible/adaptable, Mike Smith really is. Unfortunately until he shines he will be criticized.
by brotherbrown on Jan 31, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
If you think humiliating someone
is a good motivational tool you have a long path in head of you Caleb.
I don’t think Smith is too soft on the players. I do think he was to soft on his coordinators.
I have to question if there is something concerning with Smith’s health? He had the issue after the CAR game and he was very reserved this season compared to the three before it.
by mwalex on Jan 30, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If Mike Smith has a health issue
that is life threatening and is exacerbated by the stress and strain of his coaching duties then he should resign ASAP. His overall health has to be more important than coaching.
I think Bill Belichick's methods are fantastic.
That does not mean his methods should be used everywhere. I think that goes without saying.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 30, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Again,
if you think humiliation is a good motivational tool life has some surprises in store for you.
by mwalex on Jan 30, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And if I think that
who cares? To each his own, right?
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 30, 2012 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Belichick's methods
clearly work for him.
And I don’t think it’s that Belichick “humiliates” his players. Instead he holds them to a very, very high standard and makes them accountable
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by falconnuke on Jan 30, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He pretty much humiliates them.
At least, that’s what I got from the article.
But no, his method wouldn’t work for everyone, but he’s made it pay off massive dividends in New England.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 30, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. After reading the article he's a bigger a$$ than I first thought. But the jerk wins.
You can pull that crap when you win. Petrino tried to be a hard a$$ when he go here, pitting in stupid rules like no talking during team meals. He hadn’t won crap and didn’t win any games to gain believers so the idiot got a near mutiny instead.
There’s a fine line that separates the pushovers from the jerks. Smitty has got to get closer to that line. He can stop the dumb smiles on the sidelines when things are going bad without being a total d
I swear, I would’ve knocked BVG over if he had come up to me smiling the way he did after that Seattle debacle.
by aces666high on Jan 30, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Some people may not realize
Bill Belichick grew up as DC of the NY Football Giants during the reign of one Bill Parcells. Bill Parcells used any and all motivational tools needed to get his players to play and his coaches to coach. This is a man’s game if you let your emotions get the best of you or your feelings are hurt easily you will be eaten alive. Is getting cut humiliating? Because it will happen if you don’t perform. When you get cut and your friends ask you why you didn’t make it and you say they yelled at me, what kind of punk does that make you look like? It is true some people don’t respond well to negative comments or criticism but I don’t believe those types of people make very good football players.
mwalex,
I agree with you about Smitty being too soft on his coordinators.
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by falconplanet on Jan 30, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
I like Smith
byt teams reflect their coach and many times we don’t seem to match the intensity of the other team.
He is
I think he doesn’t motivate his players enough but you could also put that on the players(especially the vets). For some reason his teams don’t show up in big games. Maybe that is a issue that can be fixed or maybe when need to call Sam L Jax again.
RISE UP M%&#F*&% RISE UP
If there's one thing I've learned about motivation...
it’s that different folks have different motivations. I’ve seen the one-dimensional beat-em-up leader summarily described by, “if all you have is a hammer, everything’s a nail.” The truth is, not everyones a nail. Some are, to be sure, but there are those that will sit down like a stubborn mule when that guy hammers on them, simply because it’s the wrong way to motivate them.
I’ve found leading a team of ten or fewer can be challenging, trying to find the unique style to motivate each of them. I can only imagine how difficult it is to motivate a team of fifty plus. But the HC doesn’t have to do that, and that’s one reason I agree with mwalex above. The HC should require his coordinators, who in turn should require their specialy coaches, to find the unique motivators for the team at the position level. The head coach should create the atmosphere for that to happen, and demand it from his staff. If they don’t get it done, then it’s time to shed a flaccid approach and stern up. (Had to use your word, Hawk).
Agreed
The thing I like about Smitty is he treats his guys like men. Not like college whipping boys. In the beginning neither he nor TD had the respect that winning brings and as has been mentioned before had to instill some confidence into the guys not beat more out of them. Now that they have several seasons under their belt of success…yes success…We can take the necessary tweaks in personnel and coaching to get us to the next level.
As has also been mentioned above. Smitty is new to the head coaching business, and has been learning as much as anyone. Think about it…has never been a head coach at any level. Takes the job for the first time in the toughest league you can do it in with an organization in shambles with no real history of winning…and produced! Let’s give the guy some due where it’s deserved.
What we’re butt hurt about is losing in the playoffs. I’d say that the moves this offseason say that the HC is far from pleased with them. This is now Smitty’s team. He’s not under the shadow of the Super Bowl OC, etc. I think he’ll do just fine. He’s honest enough with himself to see where his flaws are.
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
it is also possible
that the Patriots draft guys (and get in free agency), players that can fall in line with their command. They might even do psychological test without the players knowledge to see if they can culture them they way they want, so that the “humiliation” and hardcore discipline will be most effective.
The guys like Albert Haynesworth and Chad Ocho Cinco didn’t seem to work probably because their Ego was already too high, but I guess they used them as experiments against the control (scientific terms), for guys they can’t tame.
by brotherbrown on Jan 31, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Easily.
The entire team is just content and that starts up top. Everyone was so in love with themselves after last season after the #1 seed and the almost the entire offense going to the probowl.Smitty had just gotten his contract extension. It’s as if everyone just forgot about the GB stomping and thought they had nothing to work towards.
I'm just saying...
Love Smitty,
But he’s got to make players accountable. Got to kick their asses sometimes. It’s a great motivational tool. That’s why Belichick and Coughlin are winners because they do this type of thing…
Evil Falcon
Like last year in the Eagles Giants game
When the punter was told not to kick to Desean Jackson and he did and then he took it to the house. I can vividly remember Coughlin destroying the punter afterwards right in his face. It was quite a sight
by superfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope we can understand the difference
between your point and “humiliation”. I think that is lost on some people posting in this thread.
How can anyone question his motivational tactics!?
The guy has built a freaking dynasty. I absolutely agree with what he does, which is hold players (and coordinators) accountable. If it happens to embarrass them, so be it. What is he supposed to do, try not to hurt their feelings!? Yea right. These are all grown men who get paid very well for doing something they love to do. He has high expectations of them all and expects them to “do your job”. He is the head coach, he can coach however he wants. In the end, he has had wonderful results in his tenure with NE. Bottom line, the most successful people aren’t rude, but don’t care of someone’s feelings get hurt by pointing out a breakdown. Coach B gives them his all, and all he wants is the same in return.
Now, to answer the question, yes! Mike Smith has gone soft, and I’m not sure what happened. He used to be fiery. He needs to hold his players AND coordinators accountable for every single play. Pointing out breakdowns is not purposely embarrassing someone. It’s called teaching and making sure that person does not make the same mistake. Only the weak players let it bother them long-term, and strong players absorb and correct it. Thats how BB does it, and if one doesn’t like it, they can get the hell out of town. He wants to win, and I’m sure everyone forgets about hurt feelings after a W. Now, if MS has a health problem, he should probably reconsider the major role of HC. However? I believe he has room to grow, and I’m sure will do so.
With his track record, how can you argue against anything he does? The guy is a genius.
**please excuse any typos or grammatical errors. Typing from my phone.
by FalconsFansincePrimetime on Jan 30, 2012 8:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
I'm just hoping that we do not have a late 90's situation like with Dungy and the Bucs, well they actually win a SB so I'll take it!
Hello NFL teams, are you in need of a SB ring. Is your 9-7 or 10-6 team that barely slipped in to playoffs needing some help, well, beat the Falcons and you are guaranteed a SB berth!
The best coach:
I think the best coach is respected by every player and they work as a team. Also, the coach has to know how each guy responds. One guy may respond to a one-on-one talk, one may respond to humiliation, while one may respond to encouragement. I personally am the later. I will shut down and do worse if I am yelled at and humiliated. The best coach is one who can be what he needs to be to every individual person and bring them all together to play as one.
by falcons_fatalattraction on Jan 30, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Maybe...
but you have to realize Mike Smith as well as 30 other coaches in the League simply doesn’t have Billichick’s personality nor philosophy.
There are probably a lot of us that look at ordinary people and say “I like him/her” but it won’t mean we will act like them. Why? Because it’s not who we are. We aren’t comfortable being that way all the time.
Sure I would like to see our coach hold players accountable, but I don’t see Mike Smith as a even a closeted guy to “humiliate” his players.
Every coach is different
And yeah, maybe Smitty could take it up a notch sometimes. But I’ve sat right behind the Falcons bench a few times at games and I can tell you Smitty can tear into players when required. I particularly remember him going nuclear at Brent Grimes a couple of years back. Tirade went on for at least a minute. There’s fire there, for sure.
I disagree
Smitty realized something that with this group it does not take yelling to get through to this bunch of guys. Now case an point he has hired 3 just like him with a mild tempered attitude they don’t get angry unless necessary and on tv that is not to often. As a matter a fact I found an old article recently on accusing Nolan of the same thing . We draft the way we do for a reason to build a team with a mild tempered attitude good character and a high IQ for football with hopes to teach not to yell at them because this group responds better to that. Case and point when the falcons were getting their heads smashed in in Carolina Smitty went in at have time and calmly told them that we are going to go out there and take it one play at a time and they responded and we came back an won the game. the problem i saw is the other coaches had a different philosophy and in result of that this team played with confusion and separation because of the vibe they got from coaching but this year that will not be the case. there will be a whole lot of calmness and teaching going on and this team will respond to it as it was proven when ever Smitty spoke to them which is why it was important to hire that same voice in the other coaches. Guys those who are eager to be taught will listen and learn those who don’t want plain and simple.
I agree with Toby, mild-mannered can work if....
the whole coaching staff is on the same page. You just described, Tom Landry, Tony Dungy, Bill Walsh and Chuck Knoll….I’d take any of them.
Belichick’s methods work, so do Dungy’s, and they’re pretty opposite.
by AuxiliaryHusky on Jan 31, 2012 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
and if you don't have to yell at players
Why should you?
by brotherbrown on Feb 1, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Great & Successful Leadership
Throughout history “great leaders” have been studied, compared, weighed, & measured. There have been loud leaders, quite leaders, brilliant leaders, simple leaders, forceful leaders & subtle leaders. The common thread between them is not their tactics, rather their commitment/focus/preparation and a healthy dose of being in the right place at the right time.
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by Blue Falcon on Jan 31, 2012 1:36 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Let Smitty be Smitty!
The only thing he needs to be is AUTHENTIC! If he starts copying someone else the players will see right thru him and will lose respect for him. Let him blaze his own path. When Smitty’s success comes the wannabes will be asking their coaches to copy him and they won’t be able to.
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by Blue Falcon on Jan 31, 2012 1:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
It is really easy
To assume what methods Smitty uses to motivate his players without being there is a bit illogical. I remind everyone…Smitty keeps motivational “talks” in house. He does not discuss these issues, nor should he, with me, you or anybody else. I do recall a sound byte from that game where Roddy did a flip in the end zone bringing an unsportsmanlike penalty on himself. Smitty very pointedly told him “if you’re going to flip like that you had better stock the landing.” In other words don’t pull that shit anymore. It was clear to me Roddy got the point. He has not attempted it again that I’m aware of. .
by bdub712 on Jan 31, 2012 3:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah I Really Like Smith
He does a good job of getting players motivated to play I dont think hes to soft i think he is hyper conservative, he always plays the what if game and then when he starts to realize i cant keep doing this he changes his philosphy at the wrong time (see 4th down plays), also i think he just need to stop being stubborn and switch up the schemes and make half time adjustments. But like someone earlier mentioned this is his first HC gig so technically hes also still learning just like the players are
Coach Smith is really
a very fiery guy, I’ve seen it numerous times on the sidelines, such as when JJ scored a td and all the receivers got into a huddle and began to dance which could have cost us a 15yd penalty, he absolutely went balistic. Now as far as him being a motivational speaker, his locker room speeches are IMO very boring, and doesn’t have enough BITE!!!!!!!!!!! to them but, maybe that’s just me.
He is WAY too soft!!
Not only that but he isn’t THAT great of a coach imo, especially for a guy who is supposed to be a defensive minded coach, yet his defense is the main problem with the team ever since he came on board! He doesn’t hold anyone accountable and never has, I mean he thinks Grimes is a savior at CB for heaven’s sake! That little dude is picked apart by good QB’s with tall receivers quite consistently!! It’s time for Smith to be fired, if the team falls far short of the Super Bowl yet again in the 2012 season. He makes VERY questionable play calls that have cost his team way too many times as well. He hasn’t made it clear to his usually gifted GM that not nearly enough roster moves are being made to fix the glaring holes on the defensive side of the ball, which has been obvious to fans for several years now!! It’s time for TD to get back to using the draft more wisely and get FAR superior talent so some of the dead weight (most all on the defense) can be cut from the roster. Then maybe Smith can work on fixing his defense properly, which could have been done last season if they hadn’t spent so much to get Julio Jones! If the Falcons can get a defense that is as talented as their offense is, they would be SB bound imo. Smith needs to get more accuracy from Ryan also, that would be my only issue offensively, and getting the oline to be able to pick up ONE yard, when the game is on the line might be another!!

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