A Playoff Focal Point: The New York Giants Ground Game
All throughout the week, we'll be taking a look at key matchups and weak points for the Giants. Here's the first in the series.
You can't stop the Giants from passing.
Oh, sure, you can slow them down. You can shut down all but one of the receivers on the field. When it comes right down to it, though, New York has a plethora of weapons and a quarterback capable of executing their gameplan. The Falcons will have their work cut out for them against the Giants' fifth-ranked passing game, particularly dynamic Victor Cruz. Their best bet is to hit Eli Manning and count on him to make a few stupid mistakes.
The ground game, though? That's where it's at.
The Giants can't run the ball to save their lives. They're dead last in rushing yards per game in the NFL, and they've continuously shown themselves incapable of converting on the ground. Why do you think Manning's had to throw for 4,900 yards?
If the Falcons want to win Sunday—and trust me, they do—they'll want to exploit this matchup .You know the front four are borderline dominant against the run most of the time, so set up against the pass and dare the Giants to establish the run. You can hopefully force Manning to throw a costly pick or two while not getting gashed by the run.
If the Giants do get going, this could be a long afternoon. The Falcons need to play up to their pedigree and put a stop to the Giants on the ground. You can force the other teams into errors if they have to be one dimensional.
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I just don't understand how the Giants have such a poor run game this year
In my opinion it’s been their identity for a few years now (at least on offense, I know the D was the face of their Superbowl year but on offense it’s always been about the run). Bradshaw and Jacobs are too talented to not play well for such a long period of time. I’m aware of the discipline problems they’ve faced, but I don’t see how a team can go from such a threatening run game to such a (statistically) weak one.
Watching the NFC East game on Sunday highlighted though that they’re capable of using their RBs in the pass game, so that’s something Adkins/whichever OLB gets the job will need to focus on. I know Nicholas won’t play, and I know the Giants YPG rushing isn’t great, but the talent and size at runningback for them really makes me wish we could have our top 3, or even 3 of our top 4, linebackers in for this one.
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by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 3, 2012 12:22 PM EST reply actions
Number of different factors for the poor run game this year
-Poor production from the O-line
-Injuries to the O-line (starting C missed 5 games, starting LT missed 6 games and is on IR)
-Bradshaw missing 4 1/2 games with broken foot (its still broken)
-Jacobs missing 2 games with a knee injury
-Playing from behind (nearly 2/3 of this season they have been trailing their opponent. Sunday was the first game all year that they were not trailing at one point during the game.)
-Offensive Coordinator inexplicably abandons the run too early
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 3, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Oh my god, you guys are literally the Falcons. I have a newfound love for the Giants.
Especially the bit about the starting centre, overall downturn in production, star runningback with an injury (Turner’s groin hasn’t caused him to miss time but damn it’s slowed him) and the OC abandoning the run because why not.
Can’t say we’ve lost an O-lineman to IR, although we did lose our best guard to the Rams, and our all-pro fullback to IR.
This just in, I love the Giants. Supporting the winner of this game through the playoffs no doubt.
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by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 3, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
haha. I think I might have a rooting interest in the NFC South now. Seems like you guys feel our pain.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Giants
The O-line has been inconsistent this yr… Shortened training camps didn’t give this new line time to gel, then there were injuries plus the loss of Bradshaw. That said, when challenged, for whatever reason the Giants do well on the ground. If The Falcons o-line can keep Matt Ryan upright, and give him time in the pocket, Falcons should find success, but u must throw down field with the mid-range passing game. I say that because Matt Ryan is not a great deep ball passer at all, and those winds at Giants stadium are dangerous, and he really doesn’t have the experience in those winds at the stadium….
Thanks for the sentiment
I don’t know if I would root for the Falcons if we lose Sunday, but You folks have been a pleasure to hang with so far this week.
Many of you guys represent your site and your team very well.
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77 yards shy of the mystical 5000 yards
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by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 3, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love the rules that make it possible, or not...
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off topic here
Has anyone read the article about justin tuck calling us dirty? Its on Espn website. Hopefully that’ll light a fire under our asses
by ocfalcon on Jan 3, 2012 12:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
A few fanshots are floating around
Seems to be divided into the ‘Who cares’ camp and the ‘Falcons are dirty as shown by this player and this player and this player from the league’s dirtiest team calling us cheap’. I don’t really think many people outside of the O-line would take much interest. Mike Smith apaprently commented on it today – it’s just talk. I think our O-line is significantly cleaner than it was last year though, that was a dirty as hell O-line.
Just for the record, I’m also fairly sure he didn’t call us dirty personally, but said “most of the league” would say we were. Same same I know, but it’s a technicality I guess.
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by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 3, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I think we've seen the result of this.
Dahl was a nasty piece of work, who was apparently key to our O-line.
That was pretty F-in ridiculous.
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Very similar OLine situation
both ATL and NYG Olines have regressed tremendously this year from the last. I have to think that Bradshaw’s injury really hurt their run game. Jacobs has been mostly as expected this year w/ a couple of games w/ outstanding runs, and one particular outstanding catch in general.
Both OLine’s have had to deal with injuries and generally mediocre performances. ATLs OLine is healthier, but NYG might be getting some guys back too. With Bradshaw getting fit, they might welcome that challenge.
by KMarch on Jan 3, 2012 12:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This.
OL regression, OL injury, Bradshaw injury.
We’ve topped 100 yards something like 4 out of the last 5 weeks. The 32nd rank is skewed a little bit by our terrible, terrible start. We had sub-60 yard games multiple times, our low point coming with a 29 yard performance. It’s getting better, most definitely. Finally OL is relatively healthy, and Bradshaw is healthy. Still a toss up whether we do OK or not. Got to think the weather will influence game plan to run a bit more.
I can almost guarantee we won’t top 150 yards rushing against you guys, though.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
it seems like it but ...
106 vs. Dallas because Eli had 6 rushes for 14…
115 vs. Jets
91 vs. Skins
110 vs. Cowboys
100 vs. Packers in that game the refs stole
73 vs. Saints
So we had success against the Cowgirls’ 9th ranked run defense probably in part because Eli was on fire… The Jets are mediocre, we beat their D’s avg yards allowed by 4 yards… we rushed for 12 yards less than what GB usually allows.
So I don’t think we’re really getting the ball rolling on the run. We’ve just pumped it up to low-mediocre.
That said, it would not surprise me at all if Coughlin and Gilbride are hell bent on establishing the run early. And I’m perfectly fine with that. I’m a run-first guy, hell, I’m a Giants fan. This is the first season that I’ve ever been like, “F it, just throw the damn ball.”
nygmen123: Again, without Vick or Maclin, or Cromartie. Injuries don't seem to bother them. They just bring in guys to make plays
nygmen123: Stopped the Pats on the first series. Planted Brady twice. Guess what gang? This team isn't quitting. Or making excuses.
Simms-McC: Yeah -- I wish the Giants were more like the Eagles
nygmen123: In intensity and fight? Right now, so do I.
EAGLES LOSE, 38-20.
by Simms-McConkey on Jan 3, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha, maybe I was just happy to break a 100 yards after that 29 yard showing vs philly that I overplayed it a little
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think we will have trouble running against these guys.
They are fast, tackle well, and well….they have a great LBeezer in Spoon. :-)
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about the tackling...
that can come and go like a fickle wifi signal.
by KMarch on Jan 3, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Jacobs with one particularly Outstanding catch.
Are you referring to the wheel route for a TD in week 3 vs. the Eagles?
Man would I like to see that work again. I hope our OC has been keeping that one in his back pocket for just the right time and place…
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Interesting
In the last 5 games, the Giants have only had under 100 rush yards in total once (92 yards vs the Redskins). Not sure if it’s an O-line change or just one big run per game, or getting healthy. Purely from the numbers they’re lookng better, and purely on paper their runningbacks are too good to gives them a cursory look at – they’re a huge weapon, stats be damned!
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by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 3, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions
And the running game was clicking in the Skins game, they just abandoned it
Change in O-Line and health are big factors.
Diehl sucked at LG, but since filling in at LT his suckitude has gone down.
Prior to the season starting, GM Jerry Reese said that backup G Kevin Boothe was a key signing and most laughed. Well, without him the Giants would probably not be playing this week. He filled in quite well at C when Baas was out and has done a great job at LG now.
With Bradshaw and Jacobs mostly healthy the running game is not nearly as anemic at the beginning of the year.
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by Larry Soprano on Jan 3, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i was gonna post some numbers alluding to what you wrote
thanks for saving me the work tho! hehe.
but seriously, we’ve run better as of late, mostly because both backs are as healthy as they’ve been all season, and the line is starting to open up the holes a tiny bit bigger. but yeah, the YPC has gone up, as well as total yards. we’ve just been so bad prior, you don’t see a difference in total numbers.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
The Big Boy Cometh....Team Jacobs
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Check out the stats on short yardage if you like
The Giants are putrid in that situation.
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I say put BG on VC and Spoon on Ballard
Let Lofton run and hit, tell our DL to pin their ears back. On Offense just execute our offense and we should have the monkey off our back when the dust settles
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 3, 2012 12:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nothing against the Police
And I know Spoon is better in coverage, but I’d rather see Lofton cover and Spoon lay the hits. When he hits people it fires the whole team up, as well as us fans. Our defensive X-Factor I’d say.
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by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 3, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Spoon is the face of the D, no doubt
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 3, 2012 1:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He is an intimidating beast.
Love that dudes game
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I don't think our line knows what "pinning their ears back" means
Last week was the perfect time for our guys to just ram it down Freemans throat. Instead we saw multiple examples of what a perfect passing pocket looks like. We could sell a multi disc box set to high school Oline coaches of what perfection looks like. Does it mean that we send 6 or 7 guys on a sell out blitz time after time? No, but the DL should have been able to get some kind of pressure in the 2nd half not having to worry about the run. Did BVG have something to do with it, probably but at some point that front 4 has to show up consistently. Not for a series or two, not for a quarter and a half, a whole damn game.
Maiden fan, arencha?
We shall go on to the end…
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Justin Tuck
called us (the falcons) dirtbags in an interview. Its on the NFC South blog over at espn
called your OL that, not entire team.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
im not buying it
The last few weeks they have ran the ball effectively. Bradshaw is a dangerous back. Im not much worried about Jacobs because of our linebackers, but the combination of us doing more nickel because of Adkins, (which I dont really the idea of) and sleeping on the Giants run game could ruin our day. Shut the run game down early and make them one dimensional.
by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Jan 3, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Basically, he's trying to get the refs to focus on our line
to catch holding calls and the like. The article on that tacky four-letter network refers to Suh’s comments after the Detroit game (which is sort of like Jeffrey Dahmer calling Ted Bundy twisted) in support of Tuck’s comments. It’s gratuitous grandstanding at its worst.
It may backfire
Don’t anger the big uglies.
its the playoffs. You take that risk for any advantage you may get haha
If we get the win via a controversial OL penalty, I mean, it wouldn’t be the way I’d want to win, but I wouldn’t exactly be pissed about it…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Suh has no right to talk
and BJ Raji was whooped up and down the field in the GB game and cried about it afterwards since he was on the winning team.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 3, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not calling your OL dirtbags at all. I don't agree with Tuck's assertion.
if his premise was to actually call out your OL for that because he actually thought that. I hate giving teams bulletin board material.
However…I’m more than happy to accept him doing that on the premise that it may slightly favor the Giants penalty-wise.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Why is it that....
every time I hear his name (Tuck) I get a picture of the killer from Silence of the Lambs standing in front of the mirror with naught but a cape draped across his shoulders to his outstretched hands…
Hmmmmm…….odd…but I digress!!
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hahaha i suppose he is kinda intimidating
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
So, basically...
if Roddy White came out with a big splash dutifully reported by some lacky four-letter network about how Corey Webster and Aaron Ross were masters of the low-hold pass interference move, and the Falcons won on a controversial PI call, you’d be okay with that?
Nope. But I never said in my original comment that Falcons fans would be OK with Tuck
nor do I expect you to be OK with it. I’d hate it if I were a Falcons fan.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
I can live with that...
I just like the pre-game posturing as much as I like members of my team contributing to bulletin board material (and I’m right with you on that). I don’t like either one. I DO, however, appreciate fans of the opposing team that can come on our site and calmly and intelligently discuss the upcoming game. Thanks for that.
no problem. I enjoy the back and forth as much.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, but there's class
and there are trolls. Obviously, they’re at different ends of the scale, but you’re at the classy end of the guage. Of course, if the Giants win and you come over here to gloat….nah, never mind. I already know you wouldn’t do that. My nerves are just rubbed a bit raw by a few of those Saints fans.
haha I didn't even do that to the Eagles and Cowboys fans.
Over at BBV we (for the most part) are a real chill bunch. Some a bit homerish, but you find that with every fanbase, so nothing real douchey, I’d say. Can’t say I’ve encountered any dirtbags (kidding!) here either.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't find any dirtbags here either...
Very funny BBI. And I agree, not even close to dirtbags. :-)
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Hey, we're passionate
and some more than others, but I have to say I’m proud to be a member of this group. Several of them are actually real eggheads, whom I might even endorse for our OC job, when Mularky leaves, whatever that’s worth.
Hopefully, we’ll be as well received on your site. If anyone from here comes their to gloat in the event we win, cut their heads off. I personally got no truck with that nonsense…(in my best southern dialect). Best of luck to you guys (next year). ;^)
ha, same to you, though we play you guys next year as well.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
You're fine
Was just saying Suh and Raji were crying crocodile tears.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 3, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Meanwhile Matty cries no tears
The ice running through his veins freezes the tears before they leave his body
These clowns are ripping us apart
http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2011_18late.php
NYG will run all over us even with their last place rushing O and our stout run D? Really?
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
who cares?
homers be homers, haters be hating.
I’d be surprised if they watched any games other than the ones against New Orleans
haha walterfootball hates the Giants. He "used" to be an Eagles fan.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Ya can tell, and not just from what he says about this game
that he knows almost nothing about every team, and has a very strong NFC east bias. (if the Giants >>>> than the Falcons, and the Eagles beat the Giants, then Eagles >>>>>> the entire NFC south)
lol I stopped reading his game previews and stuff.
I only use that site to fact check some draft stuff…
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
I care
Because apparently we shouldn’t even be in the same stadium as the Giants according to this clown.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
In a span of an hour or two
you can go make a sports blog and have it say that there’s not a single team that deserves to be in the same state as the Falcons. Or you can make it say that the Rams will win the super bowl next year.
There are NFC East trolls, there are obviously Saints trolls, there are Patriots trolls, Steelers trolls, Panthers trolls, etc. Is it really a surprise that someone with his head stuck somewhere where the sun don’t shine expresses troll-like opinions and has something a semi-marginally-barely legitimate website?
Agreed.
All I heard all offseason was that the Giants weren’t good enough to be a poop-stained piece of toilet paper when compared to the Eagles or Cowboys….ridiculous considering we went 10-6 last year….most prognosticators said we’d finish last.
Just as preposterous to think you don’t have “a chance” against us, so I wouldn’t pay too much heed. Most all Giants fans are scared shitless of the actual matchup. Kind of excited though, since its been a couple years since we made it to the dance.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
well, it is the Cowboys/Eagles/Redskins
Cowboys every year it seems are favorites to not only win the division but make deep playoff runs.
Pretty much ditto with the Eagles, though all that “dream team” swill made it worse.
I don’t know how the Redskins are so highly hyped every year. They’ve gone to the playoffs 3 times since 1993, and won 2 games. Falcons are historically a bad team, but Atlanta’s even been better than that.
Guess it’s just the NFC/AFC East bias that we South fans like to complain about
I’m looking forward to the game, I think both teams have “a chance”, and it’s interesting in that it’s one of those few games where I’m not sure at all how the game’s going to go. Really interesting matchups in all aspects of the game.
Cowporks have won exactly 1 playoff game in the past 15 years.
Eagles make the playoffs about as often as we do since Tom Coughlin got here, difference is they got nothing to show for it.
Goes to show media darlings and big splashes hog all the spotlight (Giants are NY, but most of the spotlight goes to the Jets…we are the relatively quiet franchise).
No doubt in the South, the Saints are the media darlings….and I can see with the advent of Cam Newton, same thing with the Panthers.
All good though. Looking forward to the game as well.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 3, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
The oddsmakers say...
that you’re a three point favorite. That’s usually what they give for home team advantage, so they’re saying we’re essentially equal outside of home field advantage. Field goal? I’d say it’s a tossup, and I’m as scared of this game as you are, perhaps more so, because I’m afraid your defensive line trumps our offensive line. If it wasn’t for Tuck’s comments, I’d be afraid our offensive line would show up flat. Now I think it will be a game…
Giants Defense & Offense questions
A few quick questions to feel out where the Giants are on some things. Haven’t seen them play much this year other than one game against Philly and the last one against Dallas.
Just checking out the ESPN stats on the team I get the following:
Passing rank = 5th: Question? I know that Cruz has been a beast but Nicks looks like a deep threat too. Like 1100+ yards and 15.7 per catch or something crazy. Does Eli love the deep ball or is it mostly YAC yards you guys are getting?
Defense = 19th against run, 29th against pass: Which routes have been hurting you guys the most? For a team with some beast pass rushers this just seems wildly hight in opponents passing yardage against you guys. Didn’t y’all lose a bunch of 2ndary players early in the season? Do you guys play zone or man a lot?
Thanks for the info. Giants fans have represented well and classy from what I’ve seen so far.
I'll see if I can answer them
Passing rank = 5th: Question? I know that Cruz has been a beast but Nicks looks like a deep threat too. Like 1100+ yards and 15.7 per catch or something crazy. Does Eli love the deep ball or is it mostly YAC yards you guys are getting?
Yes. Eli loves the deep ball, but he has also benefited from his WRs racking up some huge gains after the catch. So to answer your question, it has been a combination of the both.
Defense = 19th against run, 29th against pass: Which routes have been hurting you guys the most? For a team with some beast pass rushers this just seems wildly hight in opponents passing yardage against you guys. Didn’t y’all lose a bunch of 2ndary players early in the season? Do you guys play zone or man a lot?
DC Perry Fewell’s base is a zone scheme. Many Giants fans would say that the players they have are more suited for a man coverage scheme. Based on PF’s ability to sprinkle in more man coverage schemes in recent weeks and their success doing it, it would appear we are correct.
The Giants have lost a ton of DB’s to injury this season:
Starting CB Terrell Thomas and reserve DB’s Bruce Johnson, Brian Witherspoon, Justin Tryon, Michael Coe are all on IR. Throw ontop of that our 1st Rd pick CB Prince Amukamara missed 2/3 of the season with a broken foot, so yeah…the defensive backfield has been a lil banged up.
If they don’t get a pass rush, then they are toast.
The Giants are succeptable to crossing routes over the middle and seem routes that force the safety to make a decision on which receiver to defend when they play their base zone defense. All season long it has looked like the DBs are not on the same page and suffer from constant miscommunication. Many of us are hoping that they continue to simplify the scheme and play alot more man-up to minimize the mistakes that got them burned most of the season.
"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent"
by Larry Soprano on Jan 4, 2012 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the info
Here’s what I think it’ll come down to from what I’ve been looking at.
Turnovers and can we run the ball with Turner effectively. Both teams can be had in the secondary. Eli and Matt’s numbers are pretty even overall. NY has better pass rush. We have better LBs. NY prolly has the better Oline. We have a better rushing attack. It’s really a very even matchup. I don’t put much stock into the playing outdoors advantage cause we can actually run the ball.
Atlanta is +8 in turnovers and NY is -6. We can run the ball and NY can’t much at the moment. Both can pass on each other. If we establish the run early with success it’ll be a long day for NY imho. If not then I’mma need some rolaids and a sedative lol…cause it’s gonna be who gets the ball last probably.
Scratch that...looked at wrong number
We’re only 1 turnover away from each other so that’s a wash.
Comes down to running plays with Turner and who can make a stop in the secondary. Otherwise it’s too close to call.

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