The Atlanta Falcons Second Round Pick Goes To...
Given that the Falcons don't have a first round pick and would have to make some significant moves to secure one, it's worth asking what they'll do with their second round pick.
Let me preface this by saying that I'm aware free agency could fundamentally transform this. Thankfully, your thoughts on this subject will not be etched in stone, especially if you predict guard and the Falcons pick up Carl Nicks. It's just a way to gauging the mood of Falcons fans at this moment.
For my money, it's still one of the lines, preferably the offensive line. I know there's real concerns about messing with chemistry in the OL unit, but I'll take a legitimate upgrade any day of the week. The Falcons could also use an elite pass-rushing DE and would probably jump at the chance to take one, should one be around when they pick.
Now it's your turn. Who will the Falcons use their second-round pick on?
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My money's on Cordy Glenn of UGA.
"Tim Tebow isn't a quarterback, he's a tight end lining up in the wildcat." -Daniel Tosh
He’d have to break his leg…. break a strippers leg while drunk… break something to be on the board when the Falcons pick
by Caviarhound on Jan 29, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Had a good laugh there.
Thank you for that. Maybe he just loves Georgia so much that he’ll do something like that on purpose to make sure he gets drafted here.
You mention broken leg
Boykin did something like that yesterday.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 29, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Has to be OL
McClure isn’t going to be here forever, the Falcons are wishing they could get a refund for Sam Baker, Clabo is below average without Dahl, and the younger linemen don’t look promising. I say we attempt to improve the OL and add better depth.
I agree with your views except
that I think that adjusted for the loss of an organized offseason due to the lockout,Hawley and Johnson are on schedule with what was hoped for and expected.They are only 23 and 24 years old respectively and I think hold alot of promise.But,it’s not enough to compete with what we have witnessed in the last 2 weeks of playoff rounds.
What was hoped for and expected?
I’d like to think our expectations of players on this team are much higher than that.
I agree. We hoped RGGR would be a solid addition. We expected for him to be at least serviceable
Instead we got a 6’7" wall being pushed back into Matt’s sad excuse for a pocket and a guy who lost his starting job to our backup center.
Our backup center Hawley, we hoped would be serviceable as a late fill in for McClure and expected at least a guy who wouldn’t get Matt killed. Instead, he was a suspect in the assassination attempts on Matty, along w/the rest of the line minus Blalock, before becoming our ad hoc, just put someone else there what does it matter anyway he flops real good so maybe he can draw a penalty what else can we do starting guard.
It’s time we stopped trying to find diamonds in the rough in the late rounds and actually spend a quality pick on a solid name if we’re not going to grab a big FA lineman. Though I’d prefer if we grabbed an established FA and started looking for the heir apparent to TG.
I honestly think TD is going to shore up the OL through free agency, not the draft
There are a lot of experienced pass protectors available and I won’t be surprised if a good amount of FA money is spent on the OL. There could be something unexpected like the team gaining trust in Mike Johnson and giving the RG job to him.
If you break the bank for Nicks, do you go cheap to protect Ryan's blindside?
With the salary cap and many other holes on the team, most noticeably in the secondary and on the defensive line, you would have to balance draft priorities and free agent priorities out and in the end have an upgraded roster. See how hard Dimitroff’s job is? This off season willl probably be the most challenging for him and this front office, and being shut out in the playoffs the year before adds even more pressure.
by mr92687!!! on Jan 29, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How many can I write here?
I’m hoping the Falcons pursue Nicks in the offseason, and draft a lineman next year.
Tough to say who they would take, but I would fall of my chair if they took Vontaze Burfict if he was around.
Coaching wins championships!
by Edgecrusher211 on Jan 29, 2012 12:47 PM EST reply actions
Ben Jones?
He’s a pretty solid center, I’m not sure if that’s the route they want to go, but I think he’d work out well.
Take the TE
If I’m the Falcons I’m taking the best player off the board on which ever skilled position that has not been tapped into yet and that to me is the TE. Who ever the best TE is take him than get an O-line in the 3rd round. I know that the line is ugly but I believe that we may be blowing it up a little more than we need to up front. despite not having a long term LT and RG This line has not changed much othe than Dahl leaving and Baker who was never the best going down. We got exposed because of trying to be a front we are not and that is consistent pass protectors. This front is set up for the run and playaction always has been and if we do that the line will be fine. remember despite Matt getting hit a lot we still were 6th overall ranked and was considered an all madden line in 2010 being 5th ranked so it may be more of a scheme problem than anything plus no true off season. Bring McClure back for one more season draft one 3rd rnd and groom up under McClure for a year. Now our D-line is a major concern over the o-line not enough pressure but a great blitz package will make that snap IMO get Spoon more involved in that and we will be fine. Tony may not be here next season and our offense depends on a TE heavily.
This
If Charles or Fleener are on the board, that’s where we need to go. Give Johnson, Hawley, and Jackson a chance to develop and make a run at either Bell or Nicks in FA. I’m not up for wasting another pick on a lineman early.
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by DopeFalcons on Jan 29, 2012 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Line "Both Sides"
Just a thought….Think about all the Great “Skill Positions Players”….Peterson, Jones-Drew, McCoy, Forte, CalvinJohnson, Fitzgerald ect ect…Few even in the playoffs? How many of them even had a chance a making a super bowl run?
It’s been said on this site before. Championships are built in the trenches. Mediocre/Average Line play does not and will not ever win championsips. Doesn’t matter how many Super Star weapons you have if you can’t keep MR off his back.
The Steelers
O-Line was horrendous last year and they made the super bowl. Most of those guys have made good playoff/super bowl runs.
I’m not saying the lines aren’t important, but we shouldn’t reach on a lineman just because. We can use talent all over the place, take the best player(outside of qb/wr).
That stat about 6th least sacks...
…is extremely misleading. They also allowed the 7th most hits on a QB. The low number of sacks are all because Matt Ryan is throwing the ball away. If you give Matt more time, he’ll find the open man instead of throw it in the dirt.
Credit for that 6th least sacks belongs to Matt Ryan. The line should get no credit for that.
draft possibilities
OL, DL, RB, CB, FS. If none worthwhile, then best athlete. Still would like to see what MT would bring in picks, then go from there. Sign ABE, and Mario Williams. Getting a LT and RG would be a good starting point in the draft. A decent sized, speedy RB would be next.
I'm all for a DT
I know we have Babs and Peters but Babs is 30 and Peters is a better run stopper than pass rusher. Our interior pass rush is pathetic and QB’s have no fear of stepping up in the pocket. Jerry is not the answer here so I’d love to see us get a disruptive guy to break down the pocket. I can see us go DE here too especially if Abe walks.
This is probably whats going to happen...
They draft RG3 and trade matt ryan for jared allen and joe webb for qb depth. I can feel it
There probably gettting a tight end
they need one to train under tony for the year he is year.
Just looking at prospect rankings
as they stand today, surely they will change before draft day. Keeping in mind the belief that both lines will be the focus, Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin or Chandler Jones DE Syracuse are probably the best options available. Zeitler I like, Jones not so much. If the Falcons want a starting LT I believe he has to be acquired in free agency. The 54th pick is probably not the spot you want to draft the guy who will be responsible for the blindside of Matt Ryan. I don’t know why exactly but I really think Mike Johnson is going to “Rise Up” and own the RG. How TD feels about this will tell the story, if we draft or sign a free agent RG Mike Johnson will never be a starter for this team IMO. I would not be surprised to see a trade of one or two players to get back into the 1st or 2nd RD to pick up quality players. This will be a tough off season for the GM of the Falcons IMO and again I say I would not want to be in his shoes this.
by Kushion on Jan 29, 2012 3:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
THIS
At first, I was convinced that we’d go after Nicks for RG and try to sure-up Center and LT through the draft or FA as well. At this point, I think the Falcons have at least 3 guys who can play RG (Mike Johnson, Joe Hawley, Andrew Jackson) who were all drafted in the past 2 years. It’s too early to say none of these guys can play that spot, especially since MJ showed great promise before his freakish injury run.
I think we look at either trading the 2nd round to get more picks or get up into the first round. If we can get into the first round somehow, I think we’ll try to get a LT there. Otherwise, if we’re stuck in the 2nd, I think we either go for something on the D-Line or a good TE.
Success is internally determined and externally executed.
I think the Falcons have at least 3 guys who can play RG
Yeah, that is what I was told last year on this board when TD let Dahl walk and I thought it was a grave error.
Oh, don’t worry TD has drafted all these great young linemen, that will be great. I said, how do you know, they haven’t played yet and can’t move anybody out of the starting lineup? That doesn’t sound too good. And know what, it wasn’t too good, and now we do know.
TD better go out and get about three OLinemen or Ryan can keep his track shoes on.
by Whopper Dawg on Jan 30, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm gonna have to go with Colby Fleener, TE, Stanford because of the dream I had.
Before that I was thinking it would be Nate Potter, OT, Boise, Mike Adams, OT, OSU, or Ben Jones, C, UGA
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 29, 2012 4:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
TE
Orson Charles. I think we’ll go to more 2 TE sets and cut Ovie.
d-wade=d-ouche
by captainamerica* on Jan 29, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions
I don't know why we'd cut Ovie.
He’s good, he helps in protection, and he’s a high class guy. If anything, we trade him away to Jacksonville because Mularkey loves the guy.
But I love Orson Charles. He needs to bulk up to be better in protection, but he’s a dynamic playmaking TE like Tony.
Dream On
Any pass rushing DE or pocket collapsing DT will be long gone when we pick. Shutdown corners and quality LTstoo. WIth Abraham almost certainly leaving (put him on a team where he is not the ONLY pass rusher and watch his sacks go way up), and the astute teams will realize that and pay him for that.
So, no pass rush, no Grimes, weak Oline, no LT, ouch, my head hurts. With only 5 picks this year (I think that is right), TD has to go after FAs and the most likely position for that is OLine. I doubt if NO will lose Nicks even if they have to put the tag on him
Going into his fifth draft TD sure has a lot of holes to fill, and this year he has 2 picks in the first 3 rounds, unlike his first year when he was blessed with 6.
Unless he scores massively big in OLine FA, the most likely value in the Falcons slot in the second would be OLine IMO. He really needs three new starters on the OLine LT, guard and center. That is a pretty big order and one that can’t be filled from the draft.
As far as protecting the chemistry of our OLine, I hope there is a massive disruption.
We just need to get lucky and find the right guy
In 08 Woodley went around where we are picking, Calias Campbell the next year, 09 Conor Barwin, 2010 had Carlos Dunlap. Not saying we will find a guy like that or anything but it certainly isn’t that rare for a nice pass rusher to go mid/late 2nd round.
Based on OL and need
and McClures age I would be suprised if ATL goes after Ben Jones or Michael in the 2nd. Possibly Jones in the 2nd and Ladarius Green in the 3rd.
Best Available, with Reservations
Take the best player available, with the exception of QB (and maybe WR). My instincts say go with OL, but depending on who leaves on defense (Grimes, Abe, Lofton), DL/LB/CB may be just as pressing.
Depending on what we do in Free Agency, RB should be considered as well if it’s the BPA. McCoy, Ray Rice, Forte, all second-rounders. The recent R2 RBs are panned out pretty well too. Spend Turner and/or Snelling salaries on free agent OL/DEF.
You down with BPA
Ues BPA even a QB. Never underestimate trade bait.
by pierre02 on Jan 29, 2012 6:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not this year.
Most years I’d agree on the QB. With only 2 picks in the first four rounds, unless we can flip him immediately (like Eli and SD), we cant afford to take someone who wont see the field.
by widderslainte on Jan 29, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
There are no guarantees that BPA works better than drafting for need
At least, if the research mentioned here is anything to go by.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703956904576287280585329292.html
That said, drafting for need can lead to reaching, which we seem to have done a few times recently.
by ukfalcon on Jan 30, 2012 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Have to agree with Best player available
except QB and use FA to fill in the gaps. I don’t want another Baker. TD’s got a tough offseason ahead of him.
2nd Round pick
I love defense and say pick a the best big outside linebacker,or a the best pass rushing defensive lineman. Use free agency to get a offensive lineman.
Ben Jones
if he isint available, then michael brewster…we need a center badly
Ben Jones will last until the 3rd
He hasn’t been impressive during weigh-ins or the Senior Bowl.
I think we can snag him in the 3rd.
another pick 2 nd rd
Ben goes first then maybe sumthing d line.
by DesertFalcon on Jan 29, 2012 8:25 PM EST via Android app reply actions
A little off topic, but...
We should snag Kellen Moore as a backup QB if we can. He’ll be an outstanding backup to replace Redman.
FA/draft
Sign Gather, FA LT from SD, Draft Ben Jones 2nd rd, draft DT 3rd round, CB 5th, OL 6th, TE 7th
bravesfan1957
Gather
Thats someone I forgot about, I was really impressed with how he was able to come off the waiver wire from the chiefs and make such a big difference to the chargers O-Line. he’s solid
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 30, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
*Gaither
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 30, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
The early and middle of the 2nd round this year is
about an even split between teams of the ‘best player available’ and the ‘position of need’ philosophies.It would be impossible to guess who is available when the Falcons pick in round 2.So,lets say that the Falcons would hope that one,but likely only one of the following would remain on the board when they pick.The order of hope is just my opinion
1) Kevin Zeitler OG,Wisconsin
2) Kelechi Osemele OG, Iowa St
3) Alameda Ta’amu NT/DT, Washington
4) Andre Branch DE, Clemson
5)Josh Chapman NT/DT, Alabama
My ‘wish for a multiple orgasm pick’ would be that one of the following slips to our third round position.
1) Michael Brewster C, Ohio St
2) Levy Adcock OT, Oklahoma St.
3) Matt McCants OT, UAB
4) Chandler Jones DE, Syracuse
I expect all nine of these to be off the board in the respective rounds but,it would be a good day if one could leak thru in the respective rounds.And of course,FA changes it all.
Just one persons opinion on players that I’ve seen play.
Would love to get Jones in the 3rd
But I bet he really improves his stock at the combine.
I Think We Should
Try the patriots approach and trade down, remeber the panthers a few yrs ago gave up a first round pick to trade up into the 2nd to get everett brown, now im not saying a team will be willing to do that but if we can pull it off why not and have 2 first round picks next year, cauase lets face with such a low amount of picks in this years draft it will be tough to get a player who will make an impact right away
trade
I think, TD and the falcons trade the second pick, either with a player(s) and get in the first round, or use it to add draft picks further down. I believe he will acquire FA help on the O-line esp. considering his track record choosing linemen, and IMO o-line is one of the hardest places to draft a successful immediate impact rookie. Though I will say it does happen.
by dirtybirdsrolltide on Jan 31, 2012 7:45 AM EST reply actions
If the Falcons don't trade trade Turner. . .
the fans will be surprised to see there will not be a 2012 O-line starter that is not currently on the team. The draft and free agency offer slim pickings for left tackles, and Nicks will be too expensive opposite Blalock. Look for the Saints to franchise Nicks.
Baker will be released or traded. Mike Johnson will start at right guard, and Hawley may takeover at center for McClure mid season. Andrew Jackson will be a valued backup. Mike Otto may be a free agent tackle signing to add depth and to provide a little competition for Svitek. If Otto is signed, look for lead-footed Garrett Reynolds to get the boot.
The Falcons need an illusive, breakaway-threat running back, thus Turner needs to go now while he has trade value. Ironically, with nine picks, maybe the Browns can be coaxed into giving up a second or third round pick for Turner after free agent, malcontent Peyton Hillis signs with another team.
Thanks to the Patriots' use of two ahtletic tight ends in their high powered offense, both Dwayne Allen and Coby Fleener will be gone by the time the Falcons pick at 55.
The Falcons aren’t going anywhere in 2012, so they should trade Turner for a low round pick in order to be able to draft one of the above or their 2013 NT starter like Dontari Poe or Josh Campbell.
TE
I doubt they’ll be around by the time we pick but either Fleener or Charles would make me very happy. I think we should get whatever OL is needed thru free agency. We need OL that have been tested in this league rather than risk at picking in the draft. Cause, let’s face it, even the best ranked OL on the board is a risk to draft. No one knows how these kids will respond playing in the NFL. But signing a free agent who you know has already played in this league is a safe bet.

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