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That's My Quarterback!

If there was ever a perfect example of impatient to the point of disabled, Matt Ryan would like to nominate himself. The spotlight has been on this young man since Draft Day 2008. The Boy Wonder who led our Atlanta Falcons to an 11-5 season his rookie year, suddenly became the hero. He was our savior, and we became greedy. If you are anything like me, you expected a rookie quarterback to beat the Arizona Cardinals and Super Bowl Champion Kurt Warner to advance to the next round of the NFC playoffs. He was THAT good. Unfortunately, his own success has led him to criticism. Let's explore..

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As a rookie, "Matty Ice," as he would come to be known, threw for over 3,400 yards with 16 touchdowns on a completion percentage of 61.1%. He took a previously 4-12 ball club embarrassed by the scandals of Michael Vick and Bobby Petrino, and made them relevant again. Atlanta clinched a wild card spot and would face the Arizona Cardinals. The hype was so strong, you would have thought LeBron James was playing for St. Vincent-St. Mary. Unfortunately, the Falcons did not meet our inflated projections and Matt Ryan had a rare down game.

Fast-forward to 2012.

Matt Ryan has continued to impress in the regular season. Posting career numbers of 4,177 yards, 29 touchdowns and the best QB rating of his very short career. Unfortunately, as a team, The Falcons are 0-3 in the postseason since Mike Smith and Matt Ryan came to town. In this impatient world, that is enough to make you a bust. Never mind the fact that this is just his fourth season, that he is only 26 years old, or that he has had one of the shakiest offensive lines in football. A superstar can overcome his offensive line, right?

I was reading a transcript of Pat Yasinskas' NFC South Chat on ESPN. One of our loyal fans had this to say about our franchise quarterback:

Pat I'm a die hard falcons fan, but I'm beginning to wonder if Matt Ryan is just another Tony Romo. He looks amazing in the regular season, but cracks under pressure... Maybe we should start looking for his replacement in case the upcoming season is also a failure.

First of all, Tony Romo is a 9 year veteran. He has earned that title. And, as if that didn't already bother me, I scroll down to the comments and read this from one of our beloved Saints fans:

Falcons need a head coach and a quarterback. Neither on their current team is very good.

Now normally, this sort of talk from anonymous posters on ESPN would not even warrant my feelings, but I see more people online and on television who share these beliefs and theories. Good, but not great, they say. Ask Arthur Blank how he feels about those kinds of people. I understand the frustration, and I acknowledge the poor performances, but I refuse to throw such a label on such a young quarterback. Because that is exactly what he is. Young. I refuse to believe that a fourth year quarterback should not be nervous in the postseason, not with this kind of pressure. You can not expect a 26 year old guy who has only been in the league for four years, or his head coach who has only held the position for the same amount of time, to have the postseason riddle figured out.

As we all know, Drew Brees did not have an ideal start to his NFL career, but let's compare anyways. In Drews first four seasons, he threw 56 touchdowns to 38 interceptions. He posted a completion percentage of 61.2% and his best passing season was for 3,159 yards, over 200 yards less than Matt's rookie season. In 11 years, Drew has built a 5-4 postseason record. For comparison, Joe Flacco has the same amount of wins, less losses. It takes time, and I have patience.

My point is, our expectations are failing us. We saw greatness, and then expected it. Like a spoiled child, we saw a slice, then we wanted the whole cake. Maybe that is, in fact, a tribute to what Matt Ryan has done for this team. Maybe he has spoiled us. Given us so much more than what we had initially hoped for, so our expectations jumped with it. The honeymoon is over, now. It's time for us to acknowledge what was good, but support what can be great, not question it.

So, where do you stand?

Poll
What is your opinion of Matt Ryan so far?
Matt is still young. He and Smitty both deserve some time to figure the postseason out.
122 votes
Sure, Matt is young, but what is Smittys excuse?
46 votes
I give him one more year. Then I am rioting.
25 votes
3 tries is more than enough, He is a choke artist.
6 votes
Smitty and him should have been gone last year.
4 votes

203 votes | Poll has closed

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One thing...

Brady
Warner
Big Ben

Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.

by InMattWeTrust on Jan 21, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

Big Ben, or..

Steelers D. Give him credit, but he didn’t carry a team like Brees did. Warner had the Greatest Show on Turf and one of the best offensive minds in history coaching him. Brady is just Brady. Not sure I can defend that one. I can say that every single person is different, and that Mularkey and Smith aren’t exactly who I would go to for help with being nervous.

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, Big Bens first postseason was horrid

he cost them the game, by his own account. He wanted a lesser role the next time around

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Lofty comparisons

Brady is considered one of the greatest QBs of all time. I have no delusions of believing that Matty will be considered one of the all-time best. BTW – even Brady has lost post-season games.

Warner’s season was magical for sure, but there’s a reason his story is so unique. It rarely, if ever, happens.

Big Ben benefited from a stout running game and a top-3 defense. He was horrid in the post-season and the Steelers won in spite of him.

by The DW on Jan 21, 2012 9:44 AM EST up reply actions  

my thoughts

Brady: Has always had a decent team around him and even when he missed the season that team made Cassell look like the next Marino.

Warner: Had a group of receivers that could take a 5 yard slant to the house and a RB that was better at receiving than half of the NFL teams #1 WR, let alone his great ability to run the ball.

Big Ben: His D saves him. When Ben was out, they still won. When Palamalu was out they lost.

I am not saying those 3 QBs are slackers, just saying look at the TEAM around him. Of those 3 QB’s, I feel the only one not great is Pig Pin…I mean Big Ben, sorry.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 30, 2012 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

This. This 10 times over.

by Caviarhound on Jan 23, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

If I could...

REC this 20 times I would. Especially with the example of Alex Smith.

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 24, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a fan

I see Matt with the skills, 40 yd pass in the air right to Julio etc., but it is protection that is lacking. It works ok until we hit playoff teams, then it doesn’t and he has to force the issue. We were in the first two games til the half, with no adjustments. I was happy with the loss being a blowout, which exposed what we had been saying. Get him 3-5 sec in the pocket like the top five and he will be part of the group.

by Craig Guinn on Jan 21, 2012 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

You can look at issues with play calling and our O-Line, but his being “young” isn’t an excuse anymore, he’s been a starter in the NFL since day 1, he’s a veteran at this point.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 21, 2012 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

he can still be

A young veteran. It’s not one or the other. Most 4 year players would not be considered a vet. He is because he grasped the game so quickly. Forgive him if he doesn’t have everything 100% figured out yet. he HAD to be starter from day 1. He had to learn on the fly. I say we give him a year or 2 with koetter before we label a kid with tremendous talent as a bust or choke artist

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The average career length of an NFL player is 3.5 years, the average career of a player who makes an opening day roster as a rookie is 6 years, the average career of a 1st round draft choice is 9 years.

So, yes in that respect, Matt Ryan, with 4 full seasons under his belt is now a veteran. He’s 26 and will turn 27 before the start of next season, again, that’s not young by NFL standards.

He’s had chances to play in big games and should be well over any “inexperience” jitters at this point.

You don’t have to judge his entire career just yet, but he’s currently a veteran. Youth as an excuse going forward is out the window.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 21, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

your stats are flawed

We are not talking about an average NFL player. We are talking about a quarterback. You cannot lump in a Rb with a Qb when it comes to career longevity. look at guys like Brady, Manning, brees. QB careers last much longer, and you knew that.

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Brady, Manning, and Brees are the absolute elite of the sport at their position, it’s no surprise that they’ve had long careers. The average career of an NFL QB is 4.44 years.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 21, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So you don’t think that the reason that Brees, Manning, and Brady have managed to have long careers doesn’t have something to do with their being among the best ever to play the game at their position?

Okay then.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 21, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Vinny Testaverde played until he was like 50

Barring injury our Iceman has a long career left in front of him

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 21, 2012 5:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

furthermore,

Qb is regarded as the most difficult position on the field. When use stats, you should really isolate a qb on about all categories. As an NFL player, he’s not young. As a QB, he is very young. At 26 he easily could go another 15-20 years. So in a 20 year career, 4 years is morning. And as referenced by many. Most “elite” QBs have startistically been unimpressive in the 1st four years of their career. The learning curve for a QB is much larger than any other QB. So yes, he is still young.

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The notion that a guy who is 27 next season is “young” in the NFL is laughable, I don’t care what position he plays. He’s an adult man who has had his job for 4 years, being young or lack of experience shouldn’t be an excuse for anyone his age with his level of experience.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 21, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

27 next season

26 this season. In a league where you mostly go to college for 4 years. He played at BC, not exactly a college powerhouse where you are playing for championships. Let’s be honest. Prior to the NFL, he didn’t have many “big games.” Saying that 26 is young is not even close to laughable. Check the 31 people above who agree that he is young, so I’m not alone, not is it “laughable” and what is the average longevity of a starting qb. I’d look myself but I’m online on my phone. He’s been hit with a lot all at once as far as his responsibilities. He wasn’t really allowed to ease in to it. He had to be excellent immediately. I’m willing to accept that he’s human. That’s all I’m saying.

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s a 4 year starter, he’s had 3 chances in the playoffs, he’s getting paid a small fortune to be an NFL QB. He doesn’t get to hide behind youth anymore. He should be expected to be a veteran, he should be expected to lead this team and set the tone for the players around him.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 21, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Get Off the "Ice"...

This Guy is our Franchise QB, face it. Remember Peyton Manning had playoff woes for awhile there. He was 0 – 3 to start off the postseason. Matt Ryan may not put up Peyton stats and that will be many people’s argument to mine. But look at how much they have gave the ball to MT, that takes chances away from Matty to improve his stats. I think playoff record can be a little deceiving on how good a QB is, look at Flacco. I think that should be a point taken. But until Matt Ryan single handily hands away a playoff game to somebody, his credibility should not be questioned. Look at the play calling, that says alot more on the coaching staff then it does RYAN, in fact his play calling works pretty damn good from what I see in the no-huddle offense. (*deep breath) Get behind Matty and let’s make sure he isn’t short on fan support and confidence! The fans can kill a player’s confidence.

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 21, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

People forget that early in his career, Tom Brady wasn't a statistical monster either:

2001: 18 TD, 12 INT, 63.9% comp, 86.5 rating
2002: 28 TD, 14 INT, 62.1% comp, 85.7 rating
2003: 23 TD, 12 INT, 60.2% comp, 85.9 rating

Good, but not great. These things take time.
The Falcons would be foolish beyond belief if they felt they needed an “upgrade”

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by TurnerTheBurner on Jan 21, 2012 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Don't forget Brees:

2001: 221 yrd, 1 TD, 0 INT, 55.6% comp, 94.8 rating
2002: 3284 yrd, 17 TD, 16 INT, 60.8% comp, 76.9 rating
2003: 2108 yrd, 11 TD, 15 INT, 57.6% comp, 67.5 rating

While in SD, he never had over 3,576 yards or 27 TD’s. Those numbers seem unbelievable considering his production now. Now he is quite honestly one of the Elite Qb’s in the league, I mean sometimes it just takes the right coach or the personnel to open up the door for max potential to be revealed. Back in SD, he did not at all look like he was going to turn into the QB he did or they wouldn’t have let him go.

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 21, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

In a related story

Ravens’ fans are stupid

I touched the garment of Ivan Johnson and I saw the Rapture

by a hooter's baby on Jan 21, 2012 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

You know...

that article should light a real fire under Matt Ryan’s ass. Cause everybody knows that Matty Ice is better. Its easier to win games when you got a whole defense full of Pro Bowl worthy players. Plus Flacco’s HC and OC have let him have more chances to show off his cannon. Matty Ice beat the Ravens last time they faced (that is how they compare most QB rivalries in this league), so for the moment, MATTY has the edge. sorry, none of this was a shot at you, a hooter’s baby.

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 21, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Baltimore fans are going to say that.

Hard to be impartial when looking through purple colored glasses. doesn’t bother me though because the general consensus is that Matt is the better QB.and that Joe benefits from an elite defense. Even his own safeties don’t trust him. My question is, if Smith and military had allowed Matt to throw on those 3rd &1’s, do you think the outcome would have been different? I’ve always wondered that

by DezL12 on Jan 21, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This makes me want to say unthinkable blog related profanity

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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jan 21, 2012 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If you "go by the eyeball test"

Baltimore wins in spite of Flacco.

Atlanta wins because of Ryan.

So yes, let’s put the “debate” to rest. Ryan is much, much better than Flacco.

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 21, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow.

I’ve seen Flacco win games…while playing like he had no business on the field. In that Jags v. Ravens earlier this year, Flacco had more completions than yards at one point in the game. If Matt Ryan turned in a 4-10, 34 yard effort, our team would likely have been absolutely obliterated. Yet Flacco can do this time and time again, and Ravens fans will insist he’s better. It’s like their incredible defense is the elephant in a room full of denial.

I'm just saying...

by Novation on Jan 22, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I love how he ignored all the points against Flacco

I don’t think Ryan is that much better than Flacco but he is. Flacco has a better RB and defense. They play the same way as well. Bal likes to run the ball heavy as Smitty likes to do. I didn’t know playing in a dome made you better. I guess Brady and Rodgers are football gods cause they play elite outside in the weather.

Gotta be one of the dumbest articles i’ve read.

by pierre02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah
oh, and Ryan never had a first round bye

I’m surprised this got by everyone who posted on this topic

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Jan 23, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I don’t get why the Ryan/Flacco comparisons chap Ravens fans asses so much. It really doesn’t matter as the ONLY times these two teams will meet is when their divisional “tickets” get pulled for the “in season” NFC/AFC opponents or in a SB matchup.

And, last time I checked, Ryan took a last minute 4th quarter win over Flacco and company…just saying!!

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 30, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank You

Matty has shown me time and time again he has what it takes to win. With an OC that has done nothing but hold him back for the last two years and an O-Line as embarrassing as his can be, he still wins games.

People are so caught up in the ESPN hype machine and the playoff record, and sometimes you need to ignore those things. Sanchez and Flacco have pretty nice looking postseason records. And you also know why. If we had either of those defenses we’d be cruising through the playoffs too.

We must improve the offensive line. This is paramount. The playcalling has to improve as well. Luckily we started learning late down the stretch that not every big play has to be a fifty yard bomb down the field. Let’s just hope that DK and MR together can have the kind of synergy to truly bring this offense to life.

I'm just saying...

by Novation on Jan 22, 2012 9:37 AM EST reply actions  

Not really a big fan of "noodle arm" MR.

It’s still early so I can’t say he can’t or doesn’t have the potential to win a ring. I think he looks antsy in the pocket. That could be the O line though so I can’t totally put that on him. He does rely to heavily on Gonzo and Roddy. He often goes through 2 progressions then dumps it to the back even when he has the protection.

Also he is clumsy. He can’t really move smoothly in the pocket because he has 2 left feet. He needs a dominant O line if we have any chance to win a playoff game let alone a SB. I won’t count him out yet but I won’t be naive either.

by pierre02 on Jan 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Huh?

Sometimes all you need is to make 2 progressions. If your 2nd receiver is open you throw to him. Can’t get any easier than that. All he relies on is Tony and Roddy? Didn’t JJ have a 1K yard season or very close to it? Who wouldn’t feel antsy behind the O-Line we had all year. Let’s face it, he didn’t trust his front 5 at all. Probably not once this whole season. I knew they wouldn’t be the same after letting Dahl go via free agency but this season was ridiuclous in regards to our O-Line play. It was bad and, at some points, plain old terrible.

He needs a dominant O-Line? Who the hell wouldn’t?!?!?! Everyone wanted the explosive offensive skill players but everyone also forgot without a great, or at least good, O-Line it doesn’t matter if you have clones of Jerry Rice in his prime, it’s not going to matter if you can’t get them the rock.

by NJDirtyBird on Jan 24, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you

For coming and posting a well thought out comment. I like to read comments from other fans (especially if they are talking good about us) to see how the rest of the league views us. I dont like to read playground taunting comments like “ur team sux cuz myne iz betta”. And I still have a lot of crow to eat because I said Newton would not be able to make the jump to the pro level and well…crow tastes better with butter and whiskey.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 30, 2012 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Matt needs time

By me saying this I’m talking about time to be able to see his receivers, go through his progressions, and deliver the ball without being mauld. It’s easy for everyone to say what he should do in those situations but, really what can he do with 350 lb men coming at him full force without any protection? I think Matt is a great qb with what he’s had to work with. Given the opportunity to work behind a line who will give him more than 2 secs to deliver the ball that in it’s self will send him to new heights. And as far as him being compared to Brees, Rogers, Brady, etc , those qb’s didn’t have such fabulous beginnings as everyone pretends. Matt will be just fine imo .

by SheSoLeo on Jan 24, 2012 11:27 AM EST reply actions  

Comparing QB's

I would like to compare Matt Ryan with playoff QB’s other than Brady, Breese, Rothlensberger, Manning or Rodgers who have been to the SB already.
1. Flacco/Ryan=Ryan
2. A.Smith/Ryan=Ryan
3. Tebow/Ryan=Ryan
4. Stafford/Ryan=Stafford
5. Schaub-Yates/Ryan=Ryan
6. Dalton/Ryan= Ryan

Now we see the true comparison of QB’s that we can relate to Ryan’s ability.

bravesfan1957

by rwh41360 on Jan 24, 2012 12:52 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

given Stafford's injury history

I’d take Ryan

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Jan 24, 2012 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I Am a HOMER...

so of course I would pick Matt Stafford over Matty. Sorry man injury history or not, Matt Stafford has shown to be a more quality QB so far. You don’t get 5,000 yards in a season w/o being some kind of good.

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 24, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Too lazy to look up, but how much of Stafford’s yards were YAC? From what I recall for much of this season, none of our receivers/Gonzo had much YAC in em at all.

Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.

by walknbalk on Jan 24, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure you can

…when all you have to do is bomb it down the field to a guy like Megatron. But I’m just a hater.

I'm just saying...

by Novation on Jan 25, 2012 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but that's nonsense

Stafford has had exactly one good year.

He got 5,000 yards because he just threw the 3rd most single-season Pass Attempts in NFL history.

He was only 0.2 yards better than Matt Ryan per pass (7.6 Y/A to 7.4). He just had almost 100 more pass attempts. If you take Sacks into account, their “rate” numbers were identical (both had 6.8 NY/A).

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Jan 25, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

First off...

I like both Matt Ryan and Stafford.

2) Maybe he isn’t better, but off production so far he has proven superior

3) Matt Ryan is no doubt a GREAT QB, I am just saying this year Stafford took a jump to the next level

4) Matt Stafford only has one weapon, Ryan has two (at the least!)

5) Comparing stuff like those stupid stats you provided don’t do much for me, b/c Drew Brees has thrown over 600 attempts numerous times in a season during his career. We all know how good Drew Brees is! (Don’t you dare deny it! btw not saying Stafford is a Drew)

6) u mad bro?

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 25, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not mad

I’m just tired of people not appreciating what we have in Matt Ryan. One season of incrementally better play in no way means Stafford “has proven superior”. 100 extra passes is like playing 3 extra games… I’d say those totals (5,000 yards) are inflated by simple opportunity. If you call the most basic of QB numbers – Yards per Attempt – “those stupid stats”, what in the world do you use to compare players?

For clarification, Brees isn’t good (great/elite/whatever) because he’s getting 600+ Attempts. It’s because he’s throwing those 600+ passes at 8+ Y/A (not to mention the 70% Completion Percentage, the better than 2:1 TD-to-INT ratio, barely 3% Sack Rate, etc).

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Jan 26, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

bro

you know what, you were right. I am wrong.

P.S. Opinions are like assholes, and sometimes they stink.

(I am still a MR 2 fan)

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 26, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

and another thing...

YPA isn’t as important of a stat as you tend to think. If you don’t believe that, look at Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy for YPA. McCoy’s is lower but we all know he is a better passer than Tebow. And Matt Ryan’s short pass game last year compared to this year, won us more games. I don’t think you can go solely off the whole YPA thing.

by that_falcon_fan on Jan 26, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think you can go solely off the whole YPA thing

I never suggested you could/should. I said it was “the most basic of QB numbers” (you know, a good starting point)… then I listed 3 other useful numbers for Brees.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Jan 27, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the YPA thing is full of bull

it normalizes, yes. but if you throw 4 times, miss 3 of them, and the other play went for 30 yards, your YPA is pretty good.

but if you throw 4 times, make 3 of them, total of 20 yards, your YPA is pretty bad.

I myself, i’d rather have a qb do the 2nd thing than the 3rd thing.

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 27, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Noodle arm comments make me laugh.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 24, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

It's just that kind of willful ignorance.

Everybody and their mama has seen him launch a football 50+ yards. Julio certainly has. I think everyone is just caught up in the ESPN, Packers-Saints love fest. Rodgers and Brees are awesome, no doubt, but those week in-week out 350+ yard games they have are due largely to YAC…something that MM’s scheme eschewed for the most part.

I'm just saying...

by Novation on Jan 25, 2012 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

He does have one though

It’s not the point that he can throw it deep but can he throw it deep accurately. I haven’t seen it yet. He is not the next Brady or Manning so we can kill that. He still has time but the improvement I want to see is the mental toughness to lead your offense to more than 2 points in a playoff game.

by pierre02 on Jan 25, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, the lack of accuracy is an issue, and probably ties in to arm strength. If you put everything you’ve got into throwing it deep you’ might get it 50 yards or more, but you’re going to sacrifice touch and accuracy in the process.

Q: If not us, who? If not now, when? A: The Batman. And "when you least expect it."

by Lennox on Jan 25, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If that's the case...

forget trying to throw it 60 yards down the field all the time. Being able to throw it 20 yards, on top of having receivers like JJ and(hopefully) HD, and Quizz, can move us across the field just as fast if the players are utilized properly and to their potential.

Despite his many, many faults, MM finally found a way to integrate Julio into offense effectively towards the last leg of the regular season. A guy like DK will only build upon MM’s offense. All the same Roddy & TG goodness, Julio with a full offseason and a year under his belt, with a more looks for Quizz and HD.

Matty will have an OC that hopefully won’t let his foot off the gas after a 4 point lead. Hopefully an OC that won’t try to force players into the scheme, rather than vice versa. Hopefully an OC that doesn’t hold not only the QB, but the entire offense back. And hopefully one that won’t be so proud he won’t let his QB do his thing if the QB has a better grasp on the game being played at the time.

I'm just saying...

by Novation on Jan 26, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

even the "elite" qb's

most of their 60 yard passes that we pretend is all they throw are actually 20-30 yard throws with a lot of YAC.

It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!

by falconnuke on Jan 27, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactamundo.

Most of those huge play offenses that our offense wants to mimic are just that: 20 yard completions with some serious YAC. With Julio, Quizz, and HD, we should be able to do that no sweat.

I'm just saying...

by Novation on Jan 29, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

2 points?

When did the offense score 2 points in that game against the Giants?

just sayin’

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Jan 26, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I know but as a TEAM all they scored was 2points

MR and the offense could have added some points on to that.

by pierre02 on Jan 28, 2012 3:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm just being sore about the playoff loss..

take back some bad coaching decisions and the Falcons kick 2 field goals and the Giants don’t get a quick easy score and the game is different going into the 4th quarter.

It was just an all-around bad showing for the entire team to include the coaching staff (with the exception of the first half defense)

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Jan 31, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

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