New Falcons Open-Air Stadium Almost a Done Deal
While the financing remains to be negotiated, this earmark means they're moving forward with the new stadium. Fare thee well Georgia Dome, here comes Fulton Co. Stadium II!
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TheAreopagite
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tring to look at the bright side here, but maybe playing outdoors will make our team better prepared if we have to play out in the elements for future playoff appearences. EX) Green Bay, Chicage, New york
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 20, 2012 11:48 AM EST reply actions
the "elements" in Atlanta will never be the same as in the above venues you mention.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
you never know. the weather here tends to get a little bipolar. remember the week before we faced the packers last year?
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 20, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
it'll never be the same, no
but it also won’t be 65 with perfect humidity all the time
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Sweet...
I’d love to see a similar design to the one in Seattle. That place is designed to focus all sound back down onto the field…it’s quite impressive.
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by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 12:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that place is nice.
Since I don’t live in GA anymore, I don’t have to pay for it, so I’m all for replacing the Dome.
I’m not sure if it’s the Vick effect or just that it was designed by an architect with no soul, but white Suburbanites avoid that Dome like the plague, and losing the roof might help put more butts in the seats. It’ll also make tailgating comeback.
Would be an awesome early season advantage with the heat, and the wet, cold late season games would be tough on our NFC South rivals from TB and NO.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
It's usually the people who aren't from Atlanta who pay for it
The Georgia Dome, its renovations, and any future stadium would be paid primarily by the Hotel tax, which is tacked on to every hotel stay in the city of Atlanta. Of course some people from Georgia or Atlanta might be renting rooms in the city, but they’re doing very bad things and deserve a tax anyway…
by TheAreopagite on Jan 20, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
the revenue could still be put to better use
either in the education system, police force, or community projects rather than a football stadium. I really wish ppl would take a stand and tell the owners to finance it themselves. If a game isn’t sold out the local market still suffers a black out despite the fact they payed for it. This not a good deal from an economic standpoint
d-wade=d-ouche
by captainamerica* on Jan 20, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
FYI,
Here in FL, there’s legislation being debated which would make it illegal to black-out a game held in a venue that was financed by taxpayers. Whether the law-makers make it happen or Goodell decides to capitulate for PR reasons, I suspect that black-outs will soon be a thing of the past.
FWIW, I think trickle-down economics is at its best in sports and entertainment. Like it or not, athletes and musicians are the ‘least sophisticated consumers’ of their income bracket. That money gets spent.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 20, 2012 5:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
got to spend,it to make it
The nfl has already stated atlanta will not host another superbowl until there is a new stadium. hosting 1 superbowl can pump almost enough money back into the economy to cover the cost of the stadium. When you then add in the extra money the stadium will bring in on a week in week out basis, the city of atlanta will likely profit from a new stadium more so than most other investing opportunities.
by icon3127 on Jan 21, 2012 3:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Noooooo!!!!!!!
This team excels in doors why mess with that? Hopefully Blank wisens up and attaches a retractable roof.
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We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
by DopeFalcons on Jan 20, 2012 12:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Historically, in the playoff...
Dome teams have not faired well in Non-dome stadiums. The trend has been bucked a little lately (last 10 years or so) but not enough for me to want to keep a Dome in Atlanta anyway…
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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
well, there isn't a lot of dome teams out there
And I don’t think the elements caused them trouble rather having an inferior team
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I strongly suggest
that you go review the Colts-Patriots rivalry and then rethink your position on this issue.
That is all.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 20, 2012 5:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the patriots were always a more balanced team
so no rethinking needed.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I think he meant the colts
They beaten new england several times in 2006 overcoming odds, coming close in 2010.
by brotherbrown on Jan 20, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Cant build a stadium that could very well be around 30 plus years based on what the falcons are now.
by icon3127 on Jan 21, 2012 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would've like to seen a banner in the georgia dome
But Im kinda old school so open stadium sounds wonderful.
by pierre02 on Jan 20, 2012 1:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I am very surprised a retractable roof isn't proposed.
Pretty much means I’ll be down after October 1st.
Either way, this is a needed addition for the team. Renting a stadium is really bad for the net worth of the team.
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by Duff_Man on Jan 20, 2012 1:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We have great weather in the fall and deep into early Winter here so...
I think it’ll be awesome to see those games outdoors…esp not having to drive into downtown Atlanta to do it. I don’t see why the taxpayers of GA have to finance the stadium though.
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
Where's the proposed new location? Edge of city or downtown again?
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
looks like pretty much downtown.
next to Centennial Place on Northside dr.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Gotcha...I do think it's cool to see the city background on night games though
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
Not to be too cynical ... but was this the REAL reason Arthur was pissed after NYG game
Was Arthur more embarrassed about the loss undermining his financing efforts for the new stadium or more sincerely because he wants to bring a championship to Atlanta / GA? Just asking the question. I WANT to believe it’s the latter. However I can’t help but think the former had a LOT to do with his anger after the NYG game.
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
I said had a LOT to do with it not SOLELY
But yeah I’m not saying the playoff loss didn’t get under his skin as an owner who wants a winner, but the timing was REALLY bad for his financing plans.
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
outdoor is the way to go, I think...
The Guvnah and Blank know they have to get this done if they ever want to host a Super Bowl again. I think the Commish told them as much.
by ChardeeMacDennis on Jan 20, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions
You can call me a fair weather fan if you want to
But as much as it costs to go to a game these days, I won’t be paying to sit outdoors after October (or an exceptionally warm Nov.).
you're a fair weather fan....
No, literally….because…you know…fair weather and all. :)
by ChardeeMacDennis on Jan 20, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Damn
This probably means the PSL will prevent me from being able to afford my season tickets so I better enjoy these last couple years in the dome smh
by atlsfinest on Jan 20, 2012 3:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Not for us
So, three grand for a pair of tickets now. Don’t go to baseball because of the heat, not sitting in rain or snow as a paying customer. So, no roof means no renewal. I have a great TV and good AC already. Too bad really. Wonder how that lousy dome team down south managed to win a SB?
I personally LOVE the idea of an outdoor stadium for football
But I know where you’re coming from. Watch the fan base though…any takers on over under 7 years before they pine for a dome again?
Technically the glass is always full. 1/2 air. 1/2 water.
SMH
This is why Atlanta always tops the list of worst sports towns in America. This isn’t Wisconsin, I’d gladly sit in the rain for a chance to watch my team play. To each his own, I guess.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 20, 2012 6:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On second thought,
that may have come across far more personal than I intended. It was meant more as a criticism of the fan base as a whole. I think Atlantic sports fans are lazy and spoiled, but I’m not saying you suck just because you’ve got things you’d rather do than spend your time sitting in the rain.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 20, 2012 6:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll watch
But we decided to get tickets first after the regime change, hated the Smiths, so we have dumped about $20k so far not counting flying to Arizona. We’ve hada a great time and enjoyed all four seasons. I missed one game so far due to business. So, call me what you like, cause its still a free country. But I expect a good debate and no offense taken if directed at me.
you know it really doesn't snow here until late Jan at the earliest.
Rain, not so much once it gets close, maybe some cloudy days.
It still stays mild around novemberish.
by brotherbrown on Jan 20, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'll only go if...
…the Falcons lose the Arena League uniforms and switch to the throwbacks they wore the last year, full time. Red helmets are just cool, damnit. Or at the least, switch to the Bartkowski-era unis.
As a by-product. Goodbye, Hope Scholarship
It’ll be exciting to see the futures educational spendings squandered in Gourmet Nacho Stands and Fous Gras Hot Dogs… I know this not the place, but still it irks me.
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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jan 20, 2012 6:02 PM EST reply actions
From a fan perspective
If the weather is anything other than 65 degrees and sunny, I’ll watch the game at home. I just have no interested in going to a game and getting rained on, being cold, dealing with the elements. Why would anyone want to put up with less than ideal weather?
To see your team play
No offense to you perosnally, or to any others who have stated this viewpoint, but I’ve never been to a football game live before, and if it takes sitting in a blizzard to watch the Falcons play I’ll gladly do it.
by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 21, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
I love outdoor stadiums.
Nothing like catching skin cancer at a ATL-JAX preseason game a few years back lol 1:00 pm games are BAD during the summer but night games are great. I’m too far away for it to matter as far as being there but football and baseball belong outside on real grass.
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 20, 2012 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And why does Atlanta need a SuperBowl???
Most cities end up losing money or barely breaking even after spending huge $$ to host a SB. And with the completely stupid trend of hosting SBs in northern venues, the likelihood of getting more than one SB every 15-20 years is highly unlikely. So the prospects of raising any revenue are unjustified. I’d rather the money be put back in HOPE, infrastructure, police/fire/ems, etc.
It’s also worth noting that no team has ever played in a SB in their home stadium.
I agree. I really hate this.
First, it’s a waste of money. The dome is younger than me. It’s in good shape. Why would you want to replace a AC building to go outside?
Which leads me to my next point: Georgia weather sucks. Sorry, it just really sucks. Either it’s blazing hot, raining, or everything is covered in pollen. These are more or less three of the major seasons in Georgia, and it’s freaking awful. I love this state for many reasons, but the weather is NOT one of those. Seriously, its almost continuously shitty. There are intermittent periods of nice weather between October and December and late March and the end of April, but that’s it.
Back to the money. We could be spending it on other things, like police or Marta expansion/improvement. I planned to be a season ticket-holder someday, but I won’t be at an outdoor stadium. Period.
live in Ohio.
absolutely gray from October until April. Snows, frigidly cold, and freezing rain all the time. Salted roads, piles of dirty snow, mucky, yucky. And it is just as hot in the summer here too.
Georgia weather does not suck, nor is it continuously shitty. I can’t wait to move back down!
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Georgia weather is mild
I have,had the fortune, or miss fortune I dont know yet, of living all over this great country. Outside of desert states with no humidity, geargia weather is a walk in the park. Its predictable and mild compared to most other nfl cities.
by icon3127 on Jan 21, 2012 3:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What about the grit of bad weather?
When I was younger, I used to love to play in the rain and the mud (being from GA, snow was never a factor). The sloppiness slowed the game down, which made me better as a lineman. I had a blast. The NFL has already removed the contact of the sport, now we demand air conditioning. Come on…
by YokoFalcon on Jan 21, 2012 7:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I dont really care if it has a roof or not.
I’m disappointed with the location. The old GM plant in Doraville would have made gettng to games a cinch for me.
by adl80l on Jan 21, 2012 10:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
What if the falcons played on a day like today?
Rain thunder almost all-day and how would that benefit Matt Ryan and the passing offense? This is exactly the type of weather Michael Turner should be used for
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Please don't leave The Dome!
Sitting outside for 3 hours in the rain – and Atlanta can have some torrential rain storms – is not something that I want to experience, not after kicking out hundreds of dollars for season tickets. The players get paid to get dirty, grimy and cold – not the fans. Are they going to reduce the seat price for our inconvenience? Doubt it. I LOVE our Dome! I’ve been to Candlestick Park and froze to death in July at a Giants baseball game. I’ve been to BofA stadium in December – not as fun as the Dome. Our Dome ROCKS and there’s no need to change. What do I look like calling into work sick from sitting outside at a rainy football game?
Will the SEC Championship still be in the Georgia Dome?
Because we can fill that stadium up, and we still love it here in the SEC.
Besides, what exactly is WRONG with the Georgia Dome, it is a great venue.
Yes
I believe the SEC contract with the Dome runs thru 2016.













