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Do Incentive Clauses In Contracts Lead Players To Hide Injuries?

Something a little different for you all today. I am taking a senior Sports Administration class here at school, and the big project for this class is somewhat of a mini Masters thesis project, and my topic will most likely be what the title says: that is, do athletes hide injuries (such as concussions) in order to fulfill incentive clauses, such as starting all 16 games (Gonzo's contract has this clause), starting a playoff game, or achieving 1000 yards rushing/receiving, etc.

I realize most of you all are fans and not necessarily experts on this topic, but I thought, for potential research use, I would poll you all and ask your opinion on this matter, because I think it's a valid question.

Incentive clauses, in case some of you aren't familiar with those, are things that agents usually negotiate into athletes' contracts to give them incentives to play hard or achieve certain milestones. These incentives can be something very small and lead into something big. Here's a small sample of what some of these incentives might be, including some I have mentioned above:

  • 4,000 yard passing seasons (5,000 would give a higher bonus)
  • Number of 300 yard passing games (Certain # of 400 yard passing games would give higher bonus)
  • 1,000 yard rushing/receiving seasons
  • 100 yard rushing/receiving games (Say 6 of these games in a season results in a bonus)
  • Regular season MVP
  • Winning a playoff game (e.g. Tebow's $250k bonus for beating PIT)
  • Winning the Super Bowl/ Super Bowl MVP

Please note that all of these may not actually be incentives that agents try to negotiate in a contract, but you follow what I'm saying, I'm sure.

Now, my research question asks if athletes would hide an injury in order to achieve one of those clauses for the paycheck bonus and, if that is the case, should incentive clauses be removed to help protect the players.

So today I call on you all, Falcoholics. What do you think? If an athlete is close to an incentive bonus, would they hide an injury (that could seriously affect their career) to achieve that bonus? I have included a poll in here to quickly gather your thoughts, but I do ask that, if you feel so inclined, take a couple minutes to share your thoughts about this matter because I think that it is a matter that might be overlooked in sporting administration today.

I also want to thank everyone who participates in advance. I really appreciate it! I'll also be floating around as well.

Poll
Do you think athletes would hide injuries if they were close to an incentive bonus in their contract?
Yes, because of the money.
222 votes
Yes, but because they want to play, not because of the money.
55 votes
Yes, for a different reason (Please specify in comments)
9 votes
No, because players believe their body/future is more important than the money.
9 votes
No, because they want to be healthy for when a bigger paycheck comes through free agency.
9 votes
No, for a different reason (Please specify in comments)
2 votes

306 votes | Poll has closed

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As a general rule of thumb

If you spend your life pursuing money, you likely won’t get it. However, if you spend your life pursuing success, the money normally follows.

It’s a broad brush to paint by, but guys who make it to the NFL have normally gotten there because they pursued athletic excellence – not money. The money is a by-product of their passion and drive.

Just my 2 cents.

by The DW on Jan 19, 2012 5:36 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

They say if you do what you love, the money will come in time.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 19, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

unless

You work as a civil servant (Not an elected official). I love my job as a tank mechanic but the highest I can expect to see in a year would be about $70k (I am not there yet even with 20 years service and being one of the best at what I do and the only promotion I can expect would be that of a supervisor—already maxed out as far as working the vehicles go).

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 19, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd be happy with 70k a year, personally.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 20, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

not complaining

Just saying that the money doesnt always follow. On a side note, when the DC politicians are saying they are freezing government salaries they mean non-elected civil servants which is extremely different than elected ones like your senators and congressmen. Did you know that there is a law that states if they do not vote against a pay raise than they automatically get a cost of living increase every year? So, the non-elected ones are under a pay freeze while the elected ones are still getting their raises. Just food for thought.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 20, 2012 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to get into a political discussion

But I’ve always found that type of stuff to be despicable. These same buffoons have no problem firing teachers or cops, or reducing their pay – but hell will freeze over before they halt their own pay raise, much less reduce their pay.

by The DW on Jan 20, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

And, they pay NO taxes on their "official" income or retirement packages!!

"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster

by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention

That most of them aren’t in the Social Security system. They have their own retirement plan that allows THEM to privately invest.

I could go on forever, but I’m afraid I’d inspire a protest.

by The DW on Jan 20, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, yes I do as I am a Government employee myself!!

"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster

by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Ron Paul

Disagree with him all you like, you have to admit, the guy is one of the only non-corrupt men in DC.

That’s my trolling for the day.

by jgentry425 on Jan 20, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that.

“If you spend your life pursuing money, you likely won’t get it. However, if you spend your life pursuing success, the money normally follows.”
Very quote worthy. It isn’t a quote is it?

by dude-bro on Jan 19, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

Nope – not a quote, just me reflecting on some life lessons.

by The DW on Jan 19, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say that it's probably both.

Football players love their job. You’ve got the option of playing the game you love for your teammates and organization that you’ve (probably) grown to like—plus a little more payday, OR sit out for yourself, receive no payment and possibly diminish your reputation around the NFL.
If I’m a player I go with the former if I’ve got the guts and the injury is nothing that could linger too badly.

by dude-bro on Jan 19, 2012 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

I voted yes for a different reason

Because you didn’t have a choice that included both money and playing. To get to this level these guys have to be cut throat competitors, so if they feel like they can play (even if they shouldn’t) they’re going to do everything they can to get out there.

"People in this country used to look at a successful person and ask what can I do to have that kind of sucess. Now a lot of people look at a successful person and ask what can I do to take what he has."
- Tommy Beam

by Adam_S on Jan 19, 2012 5:57 PM EST reply actions  

I think the answer to your thesis is somewhere in the middle

There are quite a few players who would cover up the seriousness of an injury in order to achieve an incentive clause that was in (reasonable) reach. There are fewer who’d risk aggravating an injury for a clause that was a long shot. There’s also some (like Gonzo) who wouldn’t under any circumstances.
Guys who are backups are more likely to hide an injury for playing time than bedrock starters. They’ve more riding on staying on the field. A handfull of players still love playing as much as they did as kids and they’re more likely to hide an injury just because they want to play. They’re definitely in the minority, though after these players have been through star treatments at football powerhouse high schools, Division I colleges and NFL franchises. The celebrity and money seems to affect nearly every player to some extent. Just my two cents before I go off on another tangent…

by drmondo667 on Jan 19, 2012 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Ronnie Lott cut off a finger so he wouldn't miss a game.

I don’t think it’s necessarily “incentive” based just some guys have that desire to be on the field for every snap. My Sr year of highschool I played with a bad shoulder. The other option was have surgery and miss the season. That was never an option.

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 19, 2012 6:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Are you serious?

Ronnie Lot was one of my favorite players growing up. I loved watching him play because he was always so competitive. I never knew he had his finger cut off so he could play? That just sounds a little too crazy for me. On a side-note, can you imagine Ronnie Lott playing in this watered-down version of the NFL today with all the over-the-top roughing the passer calls and not being able to hit a “defenseless” player. I think Ronnie epitomized the “rough” and “tough” players of the 80’s and 90’s. It’s sad to see how things have changed so much since those days.

by hans1588 on Jan 20, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You got that right!!

He used to just destroy opposing QB’s, they loved him…hahahaha

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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster

by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, for a different reason (Please specify in comments)

I think most that would hide it would fall somewhere inbetween for the money and because they want to play.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 19, 2012 6:17 PM EST reply actions  

Interesting

Do athelets hide injuries to fulfill incentive clauses, yes. Do the teams and/or agents get these clauses inserted into contracts to get the most out of these players, yes. The real question is more whether or not the NFL as a business is doing enough to regulate what goes into these clauses and whether the teams are doing enough to make sure these players don’t have life long injuries because of their decisions on the field. In my opinion the NFL must know of the contracts and I simply cannot see a multi-billion dollar business not having the legal assets to properly oversee this kind of thing. They simply have a legal presedence of plausible denial. The teams on the other hand although do want to have their respective players putting 110% on the field every gamday. They also don’t want to see productive players ignoring injuries and jeoperdizing their long term career to fulfill their clauses. In the end it is up to the player and whether he thinks his body can physically handle the abuse and whether they should be able to call these types of things themselves. To me the clause does put pressure on players to hide injuries, but the NFL does make more money in return, and the player and team need to make the best decision for themsleves and the game.

by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 19, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

None of us have the slightest clue.

And therefore, we’ll believe what we want to believe. Honestly, I don’t mean to be rude, but none us knows and shouldn’t pretend to know. Not only is it wrong to generalize any group of people, it’s also impossible for us to know the answer to this question. We can try philosophize about the subject and whatnot, but it doesn’t change that fact.

This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.

by gilley on Jan 19, 2012 6:25 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Good point, but that's what fans do.

I enjoy talking about sports almost as much as I enjoy watching them. That’s why this wonderful place exists and why all of us are here multiple times a day. Even when there is no football being played.

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 19, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry, but no. Just no.

by Caviarhound on Jan 19, 2012 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well don't you just sound so much smarter than me.

Care to elaborate? Because you just sound kinda douchey.

This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.

by gilley on Jan 19, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I do hear the sound of douche, ironically. But it clearly isn’t from me.

by Caviarhound on Jan 19, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok.....

Just elaborate on your point, dude. I’m not going to get into a pissing contest in the comment section of a blog with you.

Are you trying to say that we, as fans, do in fact know whether or not players will hide injuries in order to reach incentive clauses in their contracts? We can speculate, sure, but how can you possibly pretend to know whether or not this takes place?

This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.

by gilley on Jan 19, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

We can pretend simply because we can and because its interesting. This would be a pretty lame blog without any opinions

People generalize. I myself, am an equal opportunity generalizer. We plug people into groups on what we observe. When I observe Dez Bryant with $20000 in his ears on game day and he’s late paying people back, I generalize he’s an idiot. When I read about a dolphin player losing an earring worth a few thousand at practice(!), I generalize that he’s an idiot. When Peyton Hillis sits out a game due to strep throat on the advice of his agent, I generalize how does this help his dumb a$$ at all? He looks like he’s looking out for number one and while there’s really nothing wrong with that, strep?!? You couldn’t fake a hammy?!? Way to go Einstein!

It’s just an interesting topic of discussion. Nothing wrong with your opinion, nothing wrong with mine or anybody elses.

by aces666high on Jan 19, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

For the most part I agree.

However, when talking in terms of “We The Fans” isn’t it inherently part of fandom to generalize about players? Their strengths, their weaknesses, their intelligence, their arrogance, their ego, etc. The position you take is more of the morality of the situation. Is it the moral obligation of fans not to judge players? Yes and no, but that is part of sports. Talent always trumps morality in most sport situations.

I don’t see how different this topic is with another similar event that happened when New York Giant Cornerbacks we’re faking injuries during St. Louis’ No-Huddle attack. Is it wrong for us to generalize we’re these players really faking injuries and hindering the game flow? Not at all.

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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jan 19, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

debt plays a roll in some players..

They base their living expenses off a 16game season & missing a few games can b critical on them pockets 2 some players..I once was young & dumb & had a wreck on my motorcycle racing.was going 130mph when I lost control.long story short ..dr had me out of work for 3months but bc I had no income coming in I had2 go back in 2months still hurting.that or let the repo man show up @my home.lol

Been a falcons fan since the big starter jackets was in style

by turnj35 on Jan 19, 2012 6:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

side note

But I cant help but chuckle about professional athletes that cant pay their bills or file bankruptcy soon after they’ve stopped playing.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 19, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree on the players who make ridiculous amounts of money and just blow it like an idiot

but there are players who dont make the big bucks, still alot of money but not enough to be set for life, who all they have know is football and now they have no idea what to do with the rest of their lives.

by jmpecker on Jan 19, 2012 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

that is correct

But that is where their education (if they actually got one and was not just passed through the system so they can play and bring money into their school) should pay off. Most should have a bachelors degree which is a better start than a lot of people and on top of that they shouldnt have to pay back their tuition loans as a year or two in the pros would have that paid off.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 19, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i agree

thats why unless your a superstar you should probably just stay your full 4 years ha

by jmpecker on Jan 19, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

My personal opinion is the boat floats both ways

If an athlete was approaching the end of his career, and he knows it, then I think he would hide an injury to get to the plateau to receive his bonus, while an athlete that has many years left in his career might not risk the possibility of shortening his career and future earnings by hiding an injury.This may or may not be the case, just my personal opinion.

by Birdie4Go on Jan 19, 2012 6:51 PM EST reply actions  

Saw that too.

Their D is awful though. I know Spags is a genius, but STL was still 31st in run D last year.

NO will need makeovers at the LB and in the secondary and I doubt they completely patch up all their problems with the contracts they need to give out to Brees one of Colston or Meachem and possibly Nicks. They spend so much on offense, they completely neglect the defensive side of the ball.

I think we’re good.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 19, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They swept us this year

and now they’ve got a better DC. I like your optimism though.

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by Adam_S on Jan 19, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The Saints

are 1 injury away from a 4-12 season. If anything happened to Brees I dont think the Saints would be able to do anything. Why do I say that (especially almost anytime a QB gets hurt the team really suffers)? It is because he is a crazy accurate passer and like we seen this year with Manning not playing if he goes down, the team goes down. I hope he does not get injured but that is always a possibility and I dont think you could ever fully replace a QB of his caliber.

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 19, 2012 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i happen to remember a player a few years ago

who was publicly recognized as being hurt but playing to reach an incentive for sacks. But for the life of me I cant remember who it was.

by jmpecker on Jan 19, 2012 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

The short answer is yes. I've hidden injures at work and I don't have those incentives

I also can see all of the scenarios play out. That said, I don’t think they should be removecd but adjusted to strickly Games Won! Only team achievements reward incentives.

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~Arthur Blank

by CollegePark4Life on Jan 19, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Somebody's been watching Any Given Sunday

You can only hide an injury for so long until somebody notices it. And usually it isn’t long at all

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Jan 19, 2012 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

Nah, just seeing what my fellow Falcoholics think of the matter.

Since none of us (including myself) are likely experts on it, I was curious as to what other fans thought. It’d seem most think players do hide their injuries and because of the money incentive, which wouldn’t surprise me.

But you are right, most injuries can’t be hidden for long.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 20, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Some interesting opinions on here so far.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 20, 2012 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Depending

on cost benefit, of course they do.

$$$$$ you would too.

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 20, 2012 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

On the other side of your quarter Caleb,

After a season is lost , in effect out of the playoff picture. Would the front office tell a coach to ensure that certain incentives in a players contract were not met? Lots of millions at stake once again.

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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 20, 2012 5:49 AM EST reply actions  

This has happened...

In 1996, Boomer Esiason played for the Arizona Cardinals. He was due a big (for then) bonus for passing some mark (forget if it was games played or whatever). Both he and Kent Graham started 8 games that year. After three or four awesome Boomer starts in a row, they inexplicably benched Boomer in a meaningless Week 16 for Graham and started him again in a meaningless Week 17.

http://articles.philly.com/1996-12-11/sports/25640346_1_coach-vince-tobin-indianapolis-quarterback-jim-harbaugh-second-stint

http://articles.nydailynews.com/1996-12-12/sports/18016371_1_playoff-race-incentives-jerrold-colton

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by Duff_Man on Jan 20, 2012 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

off topic

Sppagnulo the new saints DC. DAMNIT

If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set

by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 20, 2012 6:57 AM EST reply actions  

With the new concussion protocols

It’s becoming far more difficult to hide injuries.

by The DW on Jan 20, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, poor old Colt

Of all the concussions I saw this year, that one was so blatantly obvious. It’s hard to imagine the coaches looking into his eyes after that hit and thinking “nah, he’s fine.”

by The DW on Jan 20, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It's bad when you think about it

They couldn’t tell the difference between normal Colt and concussed Colt.

by The DW on Jan 20, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

or didnt care

because its all about the W’s

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 20, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but why risk your QB when you...

have to know your team is still rebuilding and nowhere near competing for playoff runs!! Just silly to me…

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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The answer is yes but

it depends I think on what the nature of the injury is and the player. For instance MT played nearly all last season with a groin injury that happened in the first weeks of the regular season. I doubt that he was close to any incentives at the time of his injury but most of us never knew about it. I do believe the team knew. So I would have to say that he just wanted to help his team win. And believe it or not I believe that’s the case with most of these athletes ie… T.O. the year the Eagles went to the SB. He was back on the field after the broken leg sooner than you’d think. Brett Favre has openly admitted to taking a cocktail of pain killers just so he could stay on the field. I don’t think anything was hidden from the team in any of these cases.

In short the monetary incentives matter but most of these guys just want to win. The money is just icing. I think their biggest incentive is just keeping a spot on the team. If you’ve ever played sports you don’t say no to your coach you let him tell you no. Kinda the same thing if you’re married. LOL

by BigFalcon84 on Jan 20, 2012 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

Well, after reading though this...

and picking my way through the responses I really don’t have much to offer on this subject except for, I understand why there are “Incentive Clauses” in player contracts and I am neither for or against them.

As far as players playing injured just to achieve a threshold to get said bonus…that’s on that player if they think risking millions of dollars a year with a possible career ending injury that could have been prevented just to hundreds of thousands out of a bonus. Just seems kind of stupid to me but I will never be faced with that situation so really, this is just my opinion anyway.

And, that’s how I see it…

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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster

by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

I voted Yes because of the money.

“A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.” Thus a $500k bonus for a Pro Bowl appearance is worth more than a potential $1.2 million salary for the next year when that player may well blow out a knee in training camp, end up on IR, and receive a minimal injury settlement payout before getting released.

by jcaustic on Jan 20, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

you don't have to be an expert

An idiot can figure out players hide injuries all the time, especially with the league cracking down on injuries such as concussions so they can play and “Get Money”.
There’s no science or guess work. I’m sure it’s as common as baseball players ROIDing up, and the general public using Mary Jane and getting caught with it, or simply drinking alcohol.

by brotherbrown on Jan 20, 2012 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

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