The Two Biggest Winners Under The New Falcons Coordinators
The Atlanta Falcons have installed two new coordinators. All our 2011 woes won't evaporate overnight, but these should/hopefully will be improvements. Welcome to Atlanta, Mike Nolan and Dirk Koetter.
The topic of our discussion this afternoon is this: Which two players will benefit the most from the change in coordinators? Pick one from each side of the ball and be ready to justify your choices.
For my money, the two guys who should have the biggest boost are Jacquizz Rodgers on offense and Lawrence Sidbury on defense. Rodgers has a versatile skill set, can catch the ball and still has surprising power, so he'll likely steal carries from Michael Turner and become part of the screen game under Koetter. Sidbury would benefit from a shift to a 3-4, in my eyes, but he'll also likely get more snaps with either John Abraham or Kroy Biermann leaving and a switch to a more blitz-happy defense.
Other potential candidates include Matt Ryan and Julio Jones on offense and pretty much the entire secondary on defense, since they'll presumably be asked to cover opposing offenses a little more closely.
Share yours in what I like to call "the comments."
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On defense...
I will go with Dunta. He is a more “physical” defender and with a more “man coverage” mentality this will really play to Dunta’s strengths. His play should get ALOT better with Nolan wanting to play tighter coverage’s in the backfield.
I’ll have to think about the offense a little more…
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
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Totally agree on defense.
Dunta has got to be excited right now.
Offensively, I think the most relatively-drastic change with occur for either Rodgers or Douglas. But for the sake of the most important change, it has to be Matt Ryan.
The ability to have an expanded playbook, the ability to call plays that can keep a defense much more off-balance, and hopefully a defense that will allow us to stop the opposing offense a bit more, giving us more opportunities with the offense on the field. Balanced rhythm is our biggest goal on offense I think, and I don’t mean Run, Run, Pass, Run, Run, Pass. Constantly being able to call plays to set up other plays should be Matt Ryan’s best friend in a new offense. Run sets up PA, and vice versa (people underestimate PA setting up the run, look at the Saints). Deep passes setting up screens, quick passes setting up draws.
The ability to orchestrate all that without having to rely on getting Turner 300 carries a year should do wonders for #2 next year.
That's exactly what I thought too
When I read the post, I thought immediately of Dunta not having to play soft zone, where he has not been very good.
I’d have to agree with Dave about Rodgers though. He’s not a run-up-the-gut type of back and so getting him out in space with screens and possibly out around the end with his speed should suit him a lot more than what MM was using him for.
by ErrantFalcon on Jan 18, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
On offense I can't pick just one.
I’d say Quizz, Meier, and Douglas should all see a great jump in production aloh with Julio becoming that monster wr that he has all the tools to be. I also would be surprised if Turner, White, and Gonzalez don’t continue to be our workhorses. Can’t forget the Iceman either. I expect to see him hitting a lot more “explosive” plays in the passing game. All this hinges on improved line play also.
On defense, I think Weatherspoon becomes a household name and I think Sidbury has a breakout year. The entire defense should play better as a unit and show a little more swagger, have fun playing D and get off the damn field on 3rd and long!
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 18, 2012 5:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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Im Kerry Meier had 1 catch, it would be a jump in production
Kroy Biermann and Quizz
I really think Kroy was an underused talent in much the same way Quizz was on offense. Undersized, with a coordinator who couldn’t find ways to utilize their strengths and protect their weaknesses. While not the same type player, Nolan really knows how to push high motor guys like Justin smith. All Koetter has to do is call 2-3 screen passes a game and he’ll have surpassed four years of mularkey failures.
by sifu on Jan 18, 2012 5:21 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
My guess
With the screen playing a key role in our offense, I would have to go with Quizz. Not only will he be involved with screens, but alot more carries as well. That number could increase significantly if the team does not resign Snelling.
Defense- Could either be Dunta or Sid. I’m sure Nolan will utilize some 3-4 hybrid schemes at times, and with Abe a free agent, Sid should see much more playing time. They could begin to prep him for LB, or just take Abe’s spot. Dunta in man coverage would be an ideal fit for him as well.
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I would have to go with
Quizz and Dunta, but I can easily see Sidbury since I don’t really see us bringing back JA55. I think Sidbury will definitely see more playing time and may even become the starter in camp.
It’s going to be very interesting to see what the front office wants to do with free agents since we’re not going to have a big draft this year.
Kroy and Sid on defense; Quizz and Julio on offense
Kroy and Sid could be the next big tandem on our defense. Quizz and Julio seem perfect candidates to utilize the screen with and will definetly be more effective with a run and gun type of offense. Dunta is a better FS. Him and Sanders could be a good tandem in the backfield as well as having Hayden in as CB taking up the slack of not having Grimes.
by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 18, 2012 5:43 PM EST reply actions
Two on each side? That's just cheating.....
Seriously though, I doubt you’ll see Dunta move out of the CB position. I’m would be really surprised if they don’t bring Sanders back, but I’m not so sure about Hayden. They might want to see who’s out there in the FA market, but they might try and lock him up for some depth if they let Grimes go.
by ErrantFalcon on Jan 18, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Very true
Just wishful thinking. I do believe that Hayden and Snaders were brought in on short contracts to add more veterans in the locker room and some depth on the roster, but other than Haydens health issues they have proven themselves with their limited playing time. Both were fairly productive last year. Dunta while probably not moving out of the CB position looks and plays like a FS. It wouldn’t be a terrible move if they did it. I say we if we lose Grimes we protest and march on Flowery Branch for them to bring back Hayden and Sanders for at least one more season.
by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 18, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
My choices...
Dunta on defense
Snelling on offense
I think these two will have a big turnaround this year.
You beat me to it
DR should thrive in a physical man scheme and Snelling could become our #1 back because he can run for power and can catch.
From what everybody has said about his background, Sidbury should benefit quite a bit with a change to a 3-4. Quiz could become a modern version of Warrick Dunn as well.
Overall, I’m much happier today with the future of our team than I was after the Giants game.
Here's hoping Snelling comes back
I think it says a lot that we only got him to a 1 year contract last off season and I’m sure he’s going to be looking for a bigger role…… wherever that may be.
I think it’s going to come down to what he wants on a contract and how Koetter sees him fitting into the new scheme.
by ErrantFalcon on Jan 18, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
You and I...
Cuz we no longer have to watch MM stall out on drives after using 9 plays to move the ball 30 yds, killing 10 mins of the clock only to have to punt the ball away
by Bigru3 on Jan 18, 2012 6:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions 8 recs
That is totally...
something I’d say…and way too damn funny!! Someone green this up please!!
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
ha! didn't see this.
we had the same clever thought nonetheless, lol. rec’d
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
HD
He only had less than 500yrds and avg of 12.9 per caught! Total waste of his talent!
Moore, if we put more pressure on the QB he should have more picks!
by Sbaron55 on Jan 18, 2012 6:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Moore and Douglas
Based on Nolan’s indications that he will blitz from ANYWHERE, I think we’ll finally see Moore have that impact we all know he’s capable of. I can see Nolan using him all over the field to disrupt tight end routes and make QBs think twice about sending a pass between the hash marks.
On offense, from what I read, Koetter is very big on the slot receiver. I think he will coach up HD and finally get him fully integrated into the passing attack. He’ll clean up his routes and use him extensively. I think we could actually see HD break 800 yards with tons of YAC.
Dunta Robinson Will be the biggest improvement I think
He will finally make a Jump to being one of the best Corners in the league. I truly Believe Mike Nolan will pull the best out of him and Ray Edwards. On Offense I have to go with Matt Ryan Finally we might see the Training Wheels come off him and see him Be mentioned in the same sentence with Brees And Rodgers. Harry Douglas will also see a big Jump in his Production if he doesn’t Leave.
by falcons101 on Jan 18, 2012 6:57 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Tough call as we have no idea who we will keep .
I have a hard time answering because players we may lose to FA are also the ones that would benefit most from the change
Which might have influenced the change in the first place.
We may be bucking for some hometown discounts with promises of bigger roles.
We will be a in ton of three man sets.
Harry Douglas is the overall winner. I expect him to see 30% of all the offensive snaps next season. 5-7 targets a game. He just dot bumped big time. On D it’s gonna be William Moore. He’s gonna get to rush the QB like nobody’s business. Nolan likes to bring the pressure from the safeties.
Biggest loser in the change over? Michael Turner. And it’s not close.
There is no 'u' in awesome, but there is a "me". Deal with it...
Darrin Walls and Bear Woods
Call it perfect timing, call it fate, call it sheer luck, but the cards will fall in place for these two come 2012. This team has too many Unrestricted Free Agents, too few draft picks, and more pressing needs to address during the offseason.
Darrin Walls has shown enough promise to validate the Front Office. He will get his shot 2012. He will give ample depth to the CB position, and hopefully with any type of Defensive Line pressure, he can take advantage of that even in a backup role. The fact is that this guy should have gotten more opportunity for playing time this season which sets the tone for next season. Even with Kelvin Hayden not coming back and Brent Grimes still on the fence, Darrin Walls will be making plays for the Falcons next season
Bear Woods. When I hear those two words I think of two things:
1.) It’sAtlanta Falcons Preseason
2.) A sudden shift in the Salmon migratory patterns as they avoid Flowery Branch at all cost for fear of the feasting Bear Woods.
This is the season where all his hard work finally comes to fruition. I think we’ll have some type of depth loss with the loss of Mike Peterson and Curtis Lofton. Woods has been on the cusp of cracking the 53-roster spot for some time now and I thought it would have either taken a serious injury(ies) or free agency for him to get some type of recognition. He’s seen the system that we run and I think Mike Nolan will be an accepted influence on Bear Woods. I think that was his problem for some time. BVG and his staff have seen what Woods has done for the past two preseasons and that complacency hindered Woods from getting better. I think Mike Nolan will get some fresh eyes and see Woods with the ability he has.
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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Jan 18, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions
There is no way they are letting Lofton walk...he is too valuable to this team!!
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
I think Walls has a chance
But I’m just not getting the fascination with Bear. The guy has great passion and energy, but he didn’t even make the practice squad this year.
Biggest winners?
Falcons fans. Followed closely by the city of Atlanta.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
by DopeFalcons on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh, WINNERS.
Biggest WINNERS. Thought I was at the wrong site for a minute…
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Biggest losers
Turner and Ovie
They will see a reduced role with more 1 back sets, and the need for a more flexible RB. That’s why I advocate trading Turner.
Didn't include Grimes
because he will get a big payday somewhere. He could possibly end up in Tampa depending on what happens with Talib and Barber.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 18, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I want to see
Ovie line up as single half back, JJ11 and TG88 out left, to the right: RW84 and HD83.
Motion Ovie out to the left, snap the ball, and throw a swing wr screen to Ovie and see him bulldoze some poor DBs on the catch and run.
by PurpleDRANKnotJUICE on Jan 18, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Biggest winners in my mind
are Quizz and Dunta. Dunta will benefit from playing a scheme that even remomtely resembles man coverage. The soft zone was just so far removed from what he’s good at. Quizz is fairly obvious – the kid is a playmaker who just needs more reps.
by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 18, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Two biggest winners:
You and I.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
"Defense"
I am old school and love defense.defense. So I am looking forward to the Falcons playing better defense. I think Lawrence Sidbury should prepare to play linebacker. In the draft go for the best linebacker available when we pick. And in free agency look for offensive guards and big nose tackles.
Quizz and Dunta...
Although I’m seein MANY players on defense benefiting from this. Not a chance we switch to a 3-4 fellaz so targeting big NT’s in tha draft or free agency won’t happen…Nolan has already confirmed tha 4-3 will remain our base. Which is what makes sense, seeing as how our current roster is fit for it. Switching to a 3-4 is not as easy as many think…can take up to 2 yrs to fully develop. Judging by AB, TD, and Smitty’s conference we don’t have that much time. I’m excited, can’t wait until next season….and seriously amped up for FA and Draft day!
by DirtyBirdzUp on Jan 19, 2012 1:50 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Do see a transition tho...
Although we remain a base 4-3 I do believe we begin a transformation this next season…aka “Hybrid” which will work out beautifully…
by DirtyBirdzUp on Jan 19, 2012 1:55 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Biggest Winners
TD and Smitty cause they get to stay another.
by pierre02 on Jan 19, 2012 2:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Uh oh
Blank just made Yahoo! news with his new stadium talk. I’m down for a new dome, not sure if I want an open stadium.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
by DopeFalcons on Jan 19, 2012 3:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Dunta and Snell
the choice of Dunta is an obvious one here, so I won’t elaborate on that.
but if we’re able to keep Snelling, he might have a big year. I know that Snelling doesn’t get much love here, but here’s the thing:
- with all the talk about screen passing the defenses will know that when Quizz is on the field they should expect a screen
- likewise, since Turner is a power back, defenses can expect either a run or an intermediate pass (Turner won’t be able to block for a long time and he’s not a great pass catcher)
So, for all the strengths of these two dudes we might be a little more predictable than we’d want to be. snelling brings to the table both running and catching ability. He’d be terrific if used properly, and definitely not as an every down back.
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Spoon!
Nolan will realize the talent he has and utilze it. Spoon will become a probowler for many years to come. He has the ability to rush the passer, cover in zone or man, and make tackles in space.
I think we're going to see Spoon blitzing a lot...
and he’ll get plenty of good results out of that…
"It's called Thanksgiving for a reason. If I can give and people thank me for it, that's kind of the thing that makes me feel great inside." - Dunta
On offense, Matt Ryan.
If we truly play to our strengths on O (recievers and TE), then he will have the breakout year to be called elite. I think the FO realized that would never make that jump with MM, and that DK was brought in with this as his top priority. MR is the highest paid player, with the most impact on every play. AB wanted to hire someone that will build the face of his franchise into the face of the NFL.
MR2 will have to prove...
…that he can hit the accurate deep pass, targeting the open receiver. And all the accuracy in the world won’t matter if the WR’s drop the ball. You can play “4 verticals” all day long, but be prepared to see INT numbers jump if we play to Matt’s weaknesses, and not his strengths.
Of course, after 4 years of MM, we really do not know what Matt’s strengths ARE, do we?
I'll say this
I know people are focused on the deep ball (presumably anything over 20 yards in the air), but if you look at the best offenses – they don’t go deep THAT often. Brees, Rodgers and Brady feast on the 12 to 20 routes and big YAC plays like screens and quick slants. They get better looks at the deep ball because they set it up so well with the short to intermediate game.
We’ve seen Ryan’s accuracy in the intermediate passes, and he’s very good. If we can mix in some short stuff and properly utilize the intermediate game, I think he’ll make a dramatic jump in his long ball accuracy.
Julio and Dunta
Nolan plays Dunta the way he’s supposed to be played and Koetter has a lot of fun with the young man they call Julio.
Between Nolan and Spags...
it’s a coin flip. If we would have gotten Spags then you guys would have probably signed Nolan.
Glad your happy though…guess we will see who’s “Super DC” gets the better of who in our two meetings this year.
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
by Blood_Talon on Jan 20, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Saints have the same players on defensive
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by BlackBirdBlitz on Jan 19, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions
On offense Matt Ryan.
Under DK Matt will finally be operating an attack style offensive similar to what Rodgers, Brees, Manning and Brady have been running. He will be in an offense designed to stretch the defense vertically as well as horizontally with the intent to hit WRs in stride and allow them to make plays. Instead of his check down running a 4 yard hook he will be dragging a slow MLB across the field. Instead of simply accepting what the defense gives him he will be able to dictate to the defense and take what he wants.
On defense I hope its Curtis Lofton. If I see him check out of one defense call after the opposing team audibles it will be a great day in Falcons history.
by BlackBirdBlitz on Jan 19, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions

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