Suddenly Dirk Koetter's Hire Seems Better
One of the readers mentioned this (I forget who because I'm lame and time frames and such) but with Mike Nolan coming to the ATL to be our DC, suddenly you wonder if Dirk Koetter was such a "bad choice" after all?
Nevermind all the hoopla surrounding who we interviewed and who we didn't, it's clear that the front office is doing whatever it can to bring in the best coaches it can to make sure we're going to be winners.
I've read up on Koetter a little and I feel like he's a very smart man. I don't remember Mularkey giving any kind of interview when he came to the Falcons and I'm sure with the recent press conference he gave (relatively recent) it's safe to say Mularkey probably wasn't the best man for the job in 2012, and that's putting it mildly.
But with the hire of Mike Nolan showing the FO is wanting to get the best man for the job, I think we should all take a step back and let our new offensive coordinator give it a whirl before we look solely at his credentials and judge him based on that. He's given several interviews that have suggested he's a man who will adapt and use our talent correctly, and heck, his offense is called the four verticals. What part of that doesn't sound awesome?
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Yes!!! im first :)
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by Atlanta Superbowls on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM EST reply actions
Flagged for AJC-ness.
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Yeah I hate that on AJC
Plus there alot meaner there and most of them have no idea what there talking about.
Get a life serious sam!!
Its all just fun
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by Atlanta Superbowls on Jan 18, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
It is, but in the future
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At first I thought that said "fisting".
Thought my fun was over.
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by Duff_Man on Jan 18, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah a blog without fisting isn't much of a blog at all
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 18, 2012 4:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I had a feeling that was going to happen
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Now I want to do some fisting (no..not to myself)
You guys got me thinking
by brotherbrown on Jan 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
now let me read lol!
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by Atlanta Superbowls on Jan 18, 2012 1:31 PM EST reply actions
I'm still in the "wait and see mode"
I’m not bashing the pick but I can’t get excited about the pick. The first thing I thought about were the teams currently in the playoffs. In the remaining 4, three of them have very good defenses and okay offenses (Giants, San Francisco, and Baltimore). The last has a Hall of Fame QB and Hall of Fame Head Coach so they’re an exception here.
At first look it seems to me as if we’re thinking get a very good defense and a decent offense. I hope Koetter is an offensive genius and proves me wrong.
Blank looks like he is about to fart
Yeah at first I was like WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(literally I posted that) but then I read up on him a little bit. He did have to work with Gabbert last year and while MR is no Brady or Rodgers he still a whole lot better than Blaine. I think he will make this offense effective in all phases of the offense. Run game, screen game, short to intermediate and deep passes, and so on.
Now when you say IT....
Looks like he’s reach for his piece.
by brotherbrown on Jan 19, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
I am afraid
at this juncture credentials are all you really have besides your complete faith in Smith and TD. What he says sounds OK and better than MM who said nothing apparently even to Smith. Smith falling in love with screens do not get me overly excited.
Answer me this:
If Smith wanted screens, why didn’t he tell MM to work that into the game plan????
If Smith and TD were unhappy with the strategy of the OLine (smaller players, but coach ’em up to be aggressive, why did they endorse it????
It seems like they were part and parcel of those strategies, and now they are being held up as reasons for change. If a new staff came in that would make sense, that “logic” coming from the HC and GM that have been in place makes no sense.
MM was considered to be a stubborn guy.
Probably part of the reason.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 18, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
First time GM and first time HC.
I think it is telling that they are willing to make changes, especially wholesale change.
That's a fair point
One of the things we should all struggle a little bit with is…why now? The answer, of course, is that Blank finally stepped in and made his displeasure known. If he doesn’t keep the foot on the gas, will change proceed apace?
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Probably not
I think this has everything to do with Blank. He is tired of his franchise losing. I think MS original philosophy of playing keep away failed and he needs a new approach. Blank realizes that the league is changing and he doesn’t want to get left behind.
The problem with what you're saying
Is that the team has largely been successful in the regular season. That covered up many of these ills. It’s possible that Smith did tell MM to work in more screens – and that when they didn’t work well – he told Smith the “personnel wasn’t right.” You’re less likely to question those things when you have a winning record.
I think the leadership of the team felt like the GB loss last year was an anomaly and they pressed forward with “tweaking” what “worked.” After all, they did beat some good teams in the 2010 regular season – including GB, NO and BAL.
This season has finally started to expose the fact that the overall team development was stagnating. I think the FO and Smitty came to those conclusions after the NY loss. That’s why we’re seeing the shake-up that we are.
I think this years losses did do that
I think there was a sense of denial after the 2010 playoff loss – since the team was 13-3 and GB ended up winning the SuperBowl. I think the drafting of Julio – which I still think will payoff long term – was an indication that the FO and Smitty thought that the issues were minor.
Admittedly, some folks recognized it before management, but as with many things in life: better late than never.
Just like the damn Braves.
Built for consistency but can’t match the playoff intensity.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
almost like the hawks have the opposite problem
But in the second round they revert to the above.
by brotherbrown on Jan 19, 2012 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Ever managed stubborn smart people?
They have multiple ways of doing what they want, just short of getting fired.
im one of those "stubborn smart people"
And u sir, are 100% correct
by birdwatch on Jan 18, 2012 11:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think the screens talk is
100% a ‘pulse of the fanbase’ development.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
Fans need to think about this more rationally.
Listen to the man speak. Research his history, where he came from and the type of offense he believes in. Read up on what other people in the league think of him.
Koetter is a forward thinker. He’s a passing game aficionado. Whatever the new craze is, this guy understands it and knows why it works. He’s a very bright man with a great understanding of offense. He’s NEVER had anything close to the level of talent he’ll have in Atlanta, and it’s quite ridiculous to compare this guy to Mike Mularkey in any way. They’re not similar at all, really. Mularkey is a master at designing an effective running game, the type of offense that was prevalent decades ago. Koetter is the opposite. Falcons fans will universally love this guy. I guarantee it.
This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.
by gilley on Jan 18, 2012 2:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with this sentiment.
As many have said before, if TD and MS are on the hot seat, then why would they not try to find the best possible candidate?
Personally, I don’t think there’s a coach alive who could have done much more with the Jags’s offense. None. It’s not like Koetter failed as the offensive coordinator of Green Bay. That said, MJD had one of the best seasons in the NFL. While it may speak more to MJD’s talent than DK’s play calling, the few Jag “stars” have performed well under him, and we have a bunch more stars than them.
Additionally, MS needs someone he can trust on offense, someone who he gets along with. Having worked with both Nolan and Koetter previously, Smith won’t have to worry about personal dynamics as much, and all three can focus on what’s most important: football.
I like both hires, even the Koetter hire. At a minimum, as you mention, we should wait and see.
GATA!
keeping this in mind
Additionally, MS needs someone he can trust on offense, someone who he gets along with. Having worked with both Nolan and Koetter previously, Smith won’t have to worry about personal dynamics as much, and all three can focus on what’s most important: football.
we can put to rest all those thoughts about Mike Smith losing power (while he indeed is on a hot seat) and his opinion card and Blank and TD brining in coordinators who might soon be promoted to HC.
this is still Smitty’s team, as I expected, and will go up or down with him.
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Team team
Rather than let Smith decide unilaterally, it seems to me that the management team is doing this together. Seems that all aspects have been considered including working relationships. I like these guys and am almost over being mad. I was not a fan during the Smith family era, but these guys are way past that, and I saw Blank ease the gloves off and reset expectations very effectively. It should be a fun but challenging year in the front office. The trick will be to get better without getting worse due to disruptions.
I'd like to post an addendum to that statement with:
“and in the playoffs too.”
by PurpleDRANKnotJUICE on Jan 18, 2012 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On another note
I just listened to Nolan’s press conference and the guy is a class act. I can easily see why the players play harder for him and why the Falcons were so happy to bring him in.
Additionally...
I love this quote from Nolan:
I’d rather have 10 guys get four sacks than have 4 guys get 10 sacks
That speaks volumes to the dynamic kind of defense that Nolan is intent on running.
Because that means you have to account for everyone
and not just 4 guys. I approve of that message.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 18, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone notice...
In his first press interview with DOL, Koetter said he had lunch with Matt Ryan for an hour…BEFORE he was hired. Makes me wonder how much Ryan had to do with the choice.
by falcon_in_vermont on Jan 18, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions
I think he had a good bit to do with it
I think the FO was probably sensing some stagnation/frustration/distance between Ryan and Mularkey, and they want to make sure the next OC comes in and gels well with Ryan. I’d argue that it’s more critical that the OC and QB get along than it is for the coach and OC to get along.
I agree, my feeling is the MR and MM didn't see eye to eye...
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I had always disliked the fact that he was never down on the field with his guys!!
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btw
I see that many coordinators are up in the booth calling plays. for some reason I thought it’s something OC’s prefer (since BVG was always on the field), but then I see Capers also sitting in the coaching box.
so is it a matter of personal prefernce and the ability to see the field?
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Direct access to film
Most OCs like the booth because they have a better view of the field and they have direct and immediate access to multiple angles of the film.
Because he likes to curse at his players when they screw up
And even though I’m joking, part of me wonders if there is some truth in it…
btw
if the OC is sitting up in the booth and sees something from defense he doesn’t like, he probably can relay a message to QB to audible. I wonder if Matt Ryan audibles on his own or because MM told him so.
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Most likely a mix of the two
But the idea of the backup QB being the on-the-field OC communicator is probably the reason why you see OCs in the booth so often, but not as much with DCs.
All VERY good points but just seems a little "impersonal" to me...
meh, biased I guess…
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
my feeling is that MM
MR, RW, JJ, and common sense in general didn’t see eye to eye….
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Mostly because Mularkey doesn't speak english...
…except in bizarre Confucian/Sun Tzu parables.
a better DC = a better defense, right?
so if we now are able to get the defense off the field more, that means the offense is on the field more? or quicker…..so i guess we should arguable be seeing DK’s offense more.
i was one of those WTF???? guys when DK was announced. and i also have settled in a little better after reading some of his philosophy. if we can see a team come out in the 3rd quarter and look refreshed and adjustments made, i’ll definitely be happier.
while i didn’t like the DK hire, i definitely LOVE the MN hire. maybe i’m setting myself up for a fall again, but somehow my expectations are high for this team next year. now, go shore up that OLine and get us another playmaker in the secondary
Adjustments, adjustments, adjustments
That for me will make him worth it. Can he adjust at half time or can he adjust mid season? If DK can do this then I think it was worth it. If the team has a year getting used to his coaching style and doesn’t put up big numbers but the coach makes decent adjustments during the season I will be happy.
by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 18, 2012 4:07 PM EST reply actions
Mr. Blank has that look that says
“Yeah, I know I’m the s***.”
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 18, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions
Yeah but in reality, he's probably thinking about what to have for lunch.
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Something to Ponder....
I bet money that most of their interviews were doing via SKYPE or some other Video Conferencing and not so much face to face. Most big Orgs are doing it that way in business so why not Football!!!
Skype may as well be face to face.
You get the nonverbal expressions (the important part) via Skype, plus it’s much more travel friendly and it saves money.
As a Communication student, I can say with confidence that it’s not a bad thing.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 18, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm good with Koetter
I think you also have to consider the poole of OC candidates who were available at the moment…if I remember correctly Billick, Tom Clements, and Brian Schottenheimer were on the short list. Of those three, only one had coached as an OC within the past year – Billick has been out of football for several years and Clements only had experience as an OC for 2 years back in 2004. Schottenheimer was run out of NJ because he failed to deliver on offense and had predictable playcalling. And that was the short list. I’m not saying Billick wouldn’t have been an exciting pick, but the league has changed since his departure and I even doubt if there was serious interest in leaving the broadcasting booth for an OC position and not as a HC.
The more I read about Koetter, the more that I get excited about this pick and I think given the poole of applicants, it may have been the best fit within the organization. Further, after reading several of his interviews, it is obvious that the man possesses a football acumen.
I am curious as to who is going to be the new Quarterbacks coach now that Bratkowski is gone. It would be great to have somebody with experience coaching winning QBs in the postseason.
I'm not sold on Billick coming back to coach
He seems to be doing just fine in the booth and I think he would only really come back for a “perfect” situation and this isn’t really it.
I think that Koetter is a relatively good choice for our offense.
by ErrantFalcon on Jan 18, 2012 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
Are you British or something?
You spelled “pool” with an ‘e’ twice. Just curious.
by PurpleDRANKnotJUICE on Jan 18, 2012 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My bad...
Not a Brit. For some reason, my brain wanted to add an “e.” Although, I do enjoy a cold Smithwick’s.
I got that same problem
Adding E’s on to the end of words. Mostly the word “with”
by brotherbrown on Jan 19, 2012 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
Heheh... it doesn't have an 'e' even in British English
…unless you are referring to the town of Poole, which is on the south coast of England.
by Ignoramus on Jan 19, 2012 3:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And has excellent kidney pie
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by Dave Choate on Jan 19, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
I got criticized a bit here and on other boards for saying this but
He is a phenomenal choice.
Despite what some on here have said, I’m not (nor have I ever) “blindly trusted” this FO. I like the pick because once I realized who he was, I realized that he is the guy. I want championships and believe this guy might be the best candidate to do just that.
And I stand by my top 8 offense in the league comment. You heard it here first.
I was going to write a lengthy fanpost detailing my position, but it essentially comes down to this: He’s a good coach. He has a good offensive philosophy and has had success with it everywhere he has coached. In my view, the relevant equation is
Good players + Good coach = success.
We have the players. Now we have the coach.
I think if anyone does their due diligence, and actually LOOKS at what he has done and what he believes in, it would be hard NOT to be excited for our offense. Sure his name isn’t “brian billick” but the last time I checked McCarthy and Payton weren’t “billicks” at the time either of their hiring either.
The price for going against the grain
After I heard who they picked, I actually did more reading about him than anything since I wasn’t familiar with his history and am glad I did since he seems to have a proven track record and I think will be a great addition to the team.
After reading all I have, especially his comments on his philosophy, I think this is a great addition to our coaching staff and agree with you completely.
Pretty sure that most people wanted a little splashier choice for OC, but I really don’t know who we would have picked up (that was actually a candidate for OC and not just wishful thinking) that would have been a better fit for our team.
by ErrantFalcon on Jan 18, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Still not sold....
I know folks are sold on this guy….giving him excuses for why his time in the jags was not great… Hopefully the new DC will be able to help the OC get into his groove…
From Wikipedia
“In 2005, McCarthy served as offensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers. His unit, beset by injuries and led by a rookie quarterback (top draft pick Alex Smith), finished the season ranked last in the NFL in points scored and yards gained.”
So would you have hired McCarthy to run your offense, or no?
i questioned the McCarthy hire at the time
Because I didn’t see what was so wrong by Mike Sherman.
But good call.
by brotherbrown on Jan 20, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
X's and O's are one thing
Our last OC showed us that. Results on the field are another.
by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 18, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions
MM only showed Ryan the X's
That’s why he always settled for what the defense gave him. DK will show Ryan the O’s and soon Ryan will be dictating to the defense and taking what he wants.

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