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Mike Nolan Is The New Atlanta Falcons Defensive Coordinator

When the Falcons went for Dirk Koetter as offensive coordinator, many speculated that the defensive coordinator would be a big splash. Others nervously joked that it might be Jack Del Rio.

Well, set that speculation to rest today, because the Atlanta Falcons have hired Mike Nolan, according to multiple sources including Jeff Schultz of the AJC. The former defensive coordinator for the New York Giants, New York Jets, Baltimore Ravens, Denver Broncos and Miami Dolphins brings almost 20 years of defensive acumen to Atlanta, where he'll be asked to take a middling unit with flashes of brilliance and turn it into something dominant.

That's road he's traveled before. In his very first year as defensive coordinator for the Giants, his defense was seventh against the run and tenth against the pass. In his lone year for the Jets, the team ranked 6th against both the pass and run. His vaunted Ravens defense improved yearly and twice ranked second best against the run in yards per attempt. In the last three years of his career, he guided the Broncos and Dolphins to quality . The Dolphins suffered some setbacks against the pass in 2011, but their run defense was absolutely dominant.

The only bad stretch of his career was in Washington from '97-'99, when he still managed to cajole a quality passing defense out of that team. There have been years where one side of the defense or another has been below average, as well, but by and large Nolan's team have put a quality D on the field time and time again.

What does this hire mean for the Falcons? A lot. Nolan has run both a 4-3 and 3-4 in his career, and changes are good he'll be asked to install a hybrid system in Atlanta. That could very well mean some personnel changes in the defensive front seven. In general, though, the D should be predicated on tighter coverage, a better pass rush and changing up the scheme to confuse opposing offenses. In essence, it ought to be an improvement.

More on that pass rush. Nolan teams love blitzing, to the point where stories like this actually gain traction. The Falcons are going to have to decide quickly whether they have guys who can hack it with Nolan in charge or whether they need to make personnel changes, because they didn't bring this guy in to run Brian Van Gorder's defense.

Finally, don't entirely rule out a wholesale transition to a 3-4, though it would be awfully tough to make the change in a single year. If that's what Nolan wants—and if he thinks guys like Lawrence Sidbury can roll to OLB in a 3-4 and Dimitroff can get this team a huge nose tackle—then it might happen. The secondary would remain more or less unchanged in that scenario, more than likely.

I like this move on more than one level. The Falcons talked about making changes, and simply hiring Nolan ensures the defense will have a vastly different look and feel in 2012. Nolan has an established track record of improving defenses and has a knack for getting huge effort and production out of the players he coaches. He'll also fit in with the current coaching staff nicely, having worked with Smitty in Baltimore and being the kind of intelligent, quiet guy this franchise favors. Above all, he's just a damn good coordinator.

Hell, I'm thrilled. What do you think of Nolan?

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yessir!

3-4 here we come!!!

by Brog on Jan 17, 2012 3:10 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

That's actually my concern

schematically I think the 3-4 is a much more effective defense than the 4-3. However, I’m not sure we have the personnel to run the offense. Also, it would likely mean good bye Jon Abraham

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

* against the pass.

The 4-3 is more sound for stopping the run. But Abe is gone anyway.

'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban

by J Tadpole on Jan 17, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Traditionally,

The 3-4 is viewed as superior at run stopping due to the 4 LBs. Teams moved to the 4 man front to improve the pass rush.

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Traditionally, yes.

Today’s 3-4 defenses aren’t used the same way they used to be. Very rarely do all 4 LBs stay home nowadays, which naturally creates running lanes in favor of a pass rush. of course, if you have a 350 lb. NT that can pretty well shut down inside runs by himself then that changes a lot.

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by J Tadpole on Jan 17, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like

all the top run stopping teams are 3-4. The top 4 are Houston, Baltimore, San Fran and Miami. I believe they all run 3-4’s.

by Hutch11 on Jan 17, 2012 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Not in YPC.

The top 3 are, but the next 4 are all 4-3. Conversely, all of the top 5 pass defenses are 3-4 in terms of passer rating, and there is a much greater difference between the top tier and next tier than there is in yards per carry.

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by J Tadpole on Jan 17, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Like it alot.

The question is do we let go other defensive postion coaches.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

nice

now we might get to see a hybrid D instead of vanilla zone

by Erihury on Jan 17, 2012 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

LOVE IT!

Braves.
Falcons.
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by walknbalk on Jan 17, 2012 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

isn't smitty a 4-3 guy?

How easily will these two get along as far as defensive philosophy?

by DezL12 on Jan 17, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Smitty is a 4-3 guy

but TD is a 3-4 guy and I think he feels more comfortable building a 3-4 defense

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard talk of a hybrid

we would have to this season as we lack the draft picks and cap to go all the way to 3-4

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the beauty of Nolan...

I believe he can adapt.

We’ll see.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now all Smitty is allowed to do is sit there and nod his head

Multiple embarrassments on national TV get your opinion card revoked for a while.

by aces666high on Jan 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

haha

Very true

by Brog on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Rec'd

Well, not really, because I’m mobile. But I do agree.

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

4-3 hybrid to 3-4. Gonna need some DT loving and a new crop of LBs

by Caviarhound on Jan 17, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

What about

Spoon, Dent, Lofton, and Sidbury (assuming he can make the change to OLB) or maybe we can pick up Mario Williams in FA

by DenverFalcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

This and LB Depth. And what to do with Edwards

by Caviarhound on Jan 17, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Spencer Adkins can be a good ILB.

He played well against the Giants and Bucs.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Edward could be a 5 tech in a 3-4

he has the length and similar body type to keisel in Pit and Smith in Hou. But given his ability against the run I think if he can add 10 – 15 pounds he can be very effective.

by Atlborn3 on Jan 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoon and Lofton would fit will as ILB

While Sidbury is a great fit as an OLB (as well as Biermann).

That’s assuming we go to a pure 3-4 model. I think they’ll probably go with a split or hybrid system to compliment our existing staff.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And Peters, Babs and Jerry as rotational ends

This would not be impossible.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel that

Babs is a bit overpriced for a 3-4 end and we need a true nose tackle

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they'll go get one

Or at least ask Walker to buff up.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Of those options

getting someone outside the organization would be preferable

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine they will

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Another concern

who do you feel will play the so-called “jack” linebacker position? That’s the position that Houston converted Mario Williams to and that Demarcus Ware plays in Dallas for everyone else

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine they'll evaluate that

But my best guess is Ray Edwards.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Ray is trade bait at this point. I think

the OLBs could be Spoon and Biermann (both have the same type of motor. ILB Lofton and Dent (ILB at UGA).

by Fear Me on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Drafting Dent suddenly looks fantastic

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Spoon is a bit too small to succeed as OLB in a 3-4.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Why?

He has played OLB the past 2 yrs amd this yr got after the QB pretty good. Why wld a change from 4-3, to 3-4 mean he is too small?
I think spoon and a rotation of KB and Sid at OLB, with Dent, Lofton, Nicholas at ILB.
Edwards, Matthews, Peters, Babs at DE with Perry and a heavy draft pick for NT.

by Magellan55 on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Most 3-4 OLB

Are about 2 inches taller and about 20 pounds heavier.

But, ’Spoon does have a high motor and could do well as a 3-4 OLB, but he may not rack up the sack totals that a Demarcus Ware would put up.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Clay Mathews is 6'3" and 254, so if spoon could take a few lbs he would do fine I think

with spoon on one and Sid/Cliff on other and Dent/Lofton in the middle with Adkins, nicholas, Bier as rotation

by DanishFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's impossible for him to play there

He might be undersized, but I’d want to give him the shot. His pass rushing ability would be wasted inside.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh - I'd love to see him get a shot

I’m just saying that in a typical 3-4, if you were drafting for OLB, ‘Spoon doesn’t fit the standard mold of what you’d look for there.

That said, now that we’ve seen what he’s capable of, I think he could do well. I’m still not sure he would be at the level of a Ware, but he could have an impact.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

And I definitely see your point

Especially because Cliff Matthews and Sidbury seem to be better fits on paper, as DanishFalcons noted.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

wait are we gonna try get someone other than spoon at OLD because he's not in the same class as Ware?

Didn’t he like lead the league in sacks this season? isn’t that setting the bar a little high

by RANewton on Jan 17, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes...

I think we get too caught up on size.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Resisting TWSS

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Im with you on that

He is undersized is want him to play inside and just go down hill and make plays, but some dudes are just born to play 3-4 olb see, matthews, aldon smith, von miller, think spoon could be one cause his burst is unreal, plus during the draft mayock said spoon was the most complete LB can play all 3 positions in 4-3 and some in the 3-4

by Nedk23 on Jan 17, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

My thoughts as well

The problem with Atlanta in a 3-4 is that we lack a true “jack” linebacker

by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ony problem with a Hybrid

would be the potential for penalties if there are any mental lapses. Nolan tried it in SF one year and they had a slew of procedural penalties.

by DenverFalcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But every system has a weakness. There’s no perfect system – for certain – but Nolan’s history indicates he’s capable of coaching up players and utilizing them well.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus nobody knows how to fix the dam things yet.

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by J Tadpole on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus there is a galore of 3-4 OLB's in the draft

Its like the hot position on D. Speed is the name of the game for defenses nowadays.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It would be pretty difficult to find an impactful edge-rushing LB outside of the first round. I think the team would be better off setting their sights on a nose tackle in the early rounds if they are really going to switch to a 3-4. Houston didn’t have a dominant edge rusher after Williams went down and they still made it work pretty well.

by alxn on Jan 17, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Far to much “Mario Williams” going on around here. There’s no doubting his talent but that move seems damn near impossible with the OL needs (and the sheer amount of money that needs to be spent there).

by Caviarhound on Jan 17, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention that he really fits better as a 4-3 end.

by alxn on Jan 17, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I should of said need some NT loving but eh.

by Caviarhound on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a few out there

Sione Pouha-NYJ-
Antonio Garay-SD- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smuv32N0Bc8

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by nj_falconfan on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Miami's NT is a free agent.

Spiaoli, some somoan name. But he seems like a good fit if Nolan liked him there.

by SmokeyBell on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

If Spags becomes Colts HC

Spags interviewed with Colts for DC position. That would be a crazy twist.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Woooo!!

Can’t wait for free agency and the draft now! I see great things in the future for this franchise. I’m aware that there will be growing pains but we can handle it

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yes!

And no we’re not running a 3-4 guys, it’ll probably be a sort of a hybrid 4-3, just not enough personnel to be running 3-4 on this team… as of now

by BigMac1 on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

Great hire

And for those who are worried, it is entirely possible to run a 3-4 or hybrid system without a huge nose tackle. Houston does it and has a tremendous amount of success.

I think we’ll see a true hybrid system and guys like Sidbury and Bierrman will be given a chance to rush from an upright LB type of position.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

Heck...

It’s not like our pass-rush was dominant in the 4-3…

Since we’re changing things up, why not try different schemes?

I love the hire.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

There’s a REASON we’re changing up the coordinators. I think the FO will give them the flexibility to create a defense/offense they’re confident in.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I “think” I love this hire. Its what I wanted… We now need to see how FA unfolds

by Caviarhound on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Rumors are Saints wont be able to resign Nicks

Since they have to fork kver so much for Brees. We should be in play for him.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I did miss...

But I’m glad you pointed it out.

I couldn’t be happier with the D.C. choice.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Nolan as DC

It will be nice to have a variety of blitz packages to throw out there.

It won’t be boring, that’s for sure.

by flrybranch on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

Nolan a big blitzer

This bodes well for our corners. You’ll likely see quite a few of our blitzes backed up by receiver disruption and man-coverage. That plays very well into the hands of guys like Dunta.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

Mke Nolan for DC?

Would have wanted Steve Spagnuolo but Nola is nice to have too. Iam really excited about our defense!!!

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by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

I wish Mel Tucker came here...

/beatsJagscoachestoAtlantajoketodeath

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, then...

It’s about damn time we call up MJD!

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

that

would be turner’s worst nightmare

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 18, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Welcome to the 21st century Falcons Defense!

Please insert your high school zone playbooks into the shredder and pick up your flash drives on what a hybrid 4-3/3-4 means to you…

by aces666high on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Love it!!!!

remember our personel can fit the 3-4 Dallas and Houston runs that Wade installed where u don’t need huge NT Jay Ratliff is 305.

by Atlborn3 on Jan 17, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

I am very pleased. I don’t know much about schemes, so I will leave the 3-4’s and 4-3’s to those who study that sort of thing. But Nolan’s got an impressive resume. This even makes me feel that much better about the Koetter hire. Smitty and TD have a plan.

by ChardeeMacDennis on Jan 17, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

We got one of the guys we wanted.

Now we just need Spags to go to Philly so we don’t have to face him twice a year.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

Absolutely Love this Hire

Here’s to Hoping the Saints or Eagles don’t Scoop Spags Though. But hey I’m ready for this season. NT should be our Biggest concern Because I think Abe could play a Pretty Good OLB role Much like Ware in Dallas. The only thing other than NT we would need is a New Safety or Corner that could Help ease the Growing Pains that are Bound to Occur, But nonetheless I’m am ecstatic about this Hire he fits almost perfectly.

by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Same here

If I recall correctly he has already been tried as a 3-4 OLB and failed at it, isnt that how we got him to begin with?

by GA-James on Jan 17, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea now that I think about it

You guys may be Right. But nonetheless we are going to need a Veteran Pass rusher in order to keep that Constant Pressure. But another note, as I recall the Jets were Forcing him To Cover Tight-ends and Sometimes even go Man. I think if we Use him like Dallas uses Ware or the Texans use Williams (Rush on 90% of Plays) then that could be A monumental advantage over the Left Tackle.

by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I'd let him go

Love the guy but I just don’t think he is the riht man for the job at this stage in his career. He ould be one expensive mistake…

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea

Maybe we do have to let him Walk. We just need to get another elite pass rusher. But what about Ray Edwards?? We pay him too much to just be a Run Stoping Lineman. We should Package him into a trade for draft picks.

by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

This is a MAJORRR stretch but what if we

Somehow Package Edwards And Decoud into a trade in order to move up and Draft Donte Hightower of Alabama? Again Sounds Crazy but that Dude is A playmaker and Seeing as how we would need to get rid of a few pieces this Makes a little Sense.

by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 4:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Isn't he projected...

to go in the first? If so, with as low as our #2 pick is going to be…we just don’t have any package that would move us to where we would need to be to get him…unless you’re talking taking out Decoud and adding RW.

I would love to have Hightower as well but I just don’t see a scenario where this is even remotely possible without giving up more picks (which we are in short supply of already) or giving up a big name or two…

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He was not nearly as good while he was with the Jets

That’s part of the reason we were able to land him.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

He did

But he was unhappy in the 3-4 system and preferred rushing from a 4-3 scheme.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, well he may be gone then, unless

we use him specifically in the 4-3 packages, but I doubt we’d keep him for that reason.

by leonw92 on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Age, price and lower production

Are the main reasons I think he leaves. But, if we can get him back for one year at a good price, we may still opt to keep him.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Time for a SEXY PARTY

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by a hooter's baby on Jan 17, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Both OC and DC comming in from Florida Teams.

If only Bucs had a great QB Coach it would have been a clean sweep.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

Curses!

#%@&!!!!!!!

What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?

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You'll excuse my chortles

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

and mine

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Over at CSC, they’re already raising the awful prospect of Payton promoting his bud Joe Vitt to DC. I don’t see that working.

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by MtnExile on Jan 17, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys have to get a Spags or a Bowles

It’s a transition year for both of our teams, and we both need/needed good coordinators.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

What we need

is someone who can get our defense to play with the kind of intensity and focus they play with whenever they play you. Just do it 16 games a year, is all.

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by MtnExile on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Great defenses

hate everybody.

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by MtnExile on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you think of Bowles?

I think he’s a very talented coach, and he doesn’t seem to be in demand.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

We should bring him in 2

He did coach under Nolan in Mia.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't know anything about him

I do wonder why was he chosen over Nolan for the interim title. You think Stephen Ross knows something that TD doesn’t? Yeah, me neither.

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by MtnExile on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

true that

Dont cloud the issue with facts!

by muuzilla on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Go for Brian Van Gorder

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

-1 Karma for you sir

But a +2 for team loyalty. Net gain, not bad.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and in exchange

send us Carl NIcks’ phone number

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by a hooter's baby on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

4.

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by MtnExile on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That IS his phone number.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Never even heard of the guy

Thus he gets my vote of full confidence!

by jcaustic on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Mario would be nice...

….and fit a 3-4 nicely. He was having a great year this year until he got hurt. Wade’s 3-4 benefited him. Also, I get the feeling that Arthur is really going to open up the wallet for free agents. I think that he thinks he owes it to the fans to get a big name in here. I don’t think it would be desperation on his part, more of an “Enough dilly dally, let’s do this right” train of thought. Both in the interest of a fast turnaround as well as the fact that we sold the proverbial draft farm.

In a way, each of us has an El Guapo to face.

by runningback on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

Mario would be a huge pickup

But if we do switch to a 3-4, I think Sidbury would do very well at OLB. He’s built perfectly for the OLB in a 3-4 system and was – IIRC – projected as a 3-4 OLB coming out of college.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus

Sidburys speed rating In madden is like an 87 which is amazing for DEs

by superfalcon on Jan 17, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He's never played there

Not even in college.

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Falcons have 24 M in Capspace for 2012 at this point.

Would be interesting to see how they split between the OL and the DL.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

Several very good OL prospects in the draft

And several of them will go into the second and third rounds. I think we can find our next C in the draft, pick up a RG through FA (Nicks, hopefully). LT remains the question mark, but by filling in the C position via the draft, that takes a huge load off of cap concerns for the OL.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

There's supposed to be a bump in the size of the cap as well this year

At least that’s what Blank intimated in the presser / radio interviews afterwards. So we’re prolly looking at 26 – 29 mill to play with before personnel moves to free up more.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 17, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

….what if that worked?

Like, if they lined up 11 deep until just before the snap where they all scuttled into their respective positions. That would be intense.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Or a mirror defense

Defense lines up in the same formation a the offense

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh that would be hilarious

Man, we need to be football coaches and try some of this stuff out.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Mr. Trebek

What are words never uttered by Mike Mularkey?

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome!

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

after all

that A-11 offense BS or whatever worked pretty well.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Where?

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by J Tadpole on Jan 17, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

High school.

A loophole in high school rules, if I recall correctly. Someone rode it to at least one state championship because of the loophole.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 18, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

No idea why people keep mentioning Bierrman

Dude has a high motor, but his tackling fundamentals are horrible. I’m sure Cliff Matthews can do the same job or better.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Now there's an interesting name

Matthews could be an amazing 3-4 OLB.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a better fit for 3-4 OLB

The only question is how he does from an upright position.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll find out

They didn’t draft him, talk him up and bring him along this year to let him rot on the bench.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

But he was also drafted to be a 4-3 DE, which he played at SC. But, he’s got the size and speed to play OLB very well. I’d love to see this attempted.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

If they're swinging to a 3-4

I think it’s inevitable. I love his upside enough that I’d be willing to start trying it tomorrow.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Sid's the single biggest beneficiary of this

He’s seasoned, he’s growing into a player and he’s a natural in a 3-4.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

He was the first player I thought of when I heard about this hire.

I truly believe Sid will blossom under Nolan.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Still waiting to hear news you got by hired by AJC

Seriously bro, you post 3 or 4 times a day. I’ve been to SB nation sites where they posted once a week.

Great job, sir.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you kindly, sir!

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Probaly means Abe is gone.

He left NY because he did not want to play in a 3-4. Not fast enough to handle coverage as a LB.

by SmokeyBell on Jan 17, 2012 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

I love Abe

but just think of the money we could save….

by jcaustic on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone know if....

Nolan still wears suits on the sidelines or was that only as a head coach? I love a coach in a suit, and glad we got this one instead of Del Rio. :)

by ChardeeMacDennis on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

He would, unfortunately the NFL does not allow its coaches to wear suits or anything other than team-oriented attire. They used to have one day a year where they would let them wear a suit, but I don’t think they do that anymore.

by alxn on Jan 17, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

It has to be official NFL apparel.

This is my corn. You people are guests in my corn.

by gilley on Jan 17, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

lame....

nothin’s classier than a coach wearing a suit.

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by falconnuke on Jan 17, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Unless it's

Rex Ryan wearing either a bathing suit or, God forbid, his birthday suit.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i think

if Nike can agree to make suits like reebok did in the 2007 year. Nolan and other coaches can continue wearing them at HOME games.

by brotherbrown on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

^This.

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 11:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the good thing is...

mike nolan runs a 3-4 and a 4-3 so either way we are going to have a tougher defense…im stoked about it and love this move.

by Mr. W on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

Well this is great news!

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Sorry! I was mobile and at Happy Hour!

I can only type so much from the phone!

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by Duff_Man on Jan 17, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait...

Duff_Man…drinks?

Mind. Blown.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

My sponsor says the same thing.

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by Duff_Man on Jan 18, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

No apologies

I meant that as a compliment.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Or his post

About the drunks getting into the fight, that left us all on pins and needles.

Whoops.

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Don't worry. That post is coming.

I had to trade in my ipad and lost my entire story about my ATL trip. I will be posting the entire recap of that weekend.

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by Duff_Man on Jan 17, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I am SOOOOOOOOO...happy about this move!!

OMG!! Our defense just got godlike (or any other over exaggerated word you wish to use here)!!

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Possible NT option?

Paul Soliai free agent from Miami.

6-4 355 lbs 28 years old.

Former coached by one Mike Nolan.

by jcaustic on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

He got paid 12 M in 2011

Not sure if Falcons wants to spend 12 M of the 24 M cap space on this guy.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Back that down to 8mil a year.

by Caviarhound on Jan 17, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of having Soliai in the middle

with veterans Babs and Peters on the end. We can say bye bye or trade peria Jerry and/or Edwards for some playmakers/picks

by Fear Me on Jan 17, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He got the franchise tag last year.

Doesn’t the new agreement prevent franchising two years in a row?

by jcaustic on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes please

Very underrated NT.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I like this hire alot

I think he will get the most out of our D. Aug needs to come now.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I want to see the draft and FA first.

I’m almost positive we trade atleast one veteran for draft picks.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it will be more than that

With the possibility of losing Lofton, esp if we move to a 3-4. Weatherspoon and Dent would be perfect at ILB in a 3-4 system.

I also think Grimes walks.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Dent played through the transition to a 3-4 at Georgia

So he should be solid. Why is Lofton not a good fit? He’s perfectly capable of fending off the blocks of bigger offensive linemen. If you’re worried about anyone, it should be Spoon, who is athletic but nearly as capable of not getting washed out in the run game by offensive guards in his face. For a similar situation, see Bobby Carpenter with the Cowboys for that one.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It's not that Lofton isn't a good fit

It’s that he’s a FA and will likely command a big pay-day.

That said, I think they resign Lofton.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, i'm worried about spoon.

Seems like ilb is in the near future for him. Might be advantagous to let the rest of the D stay home while he roams, kind of a front 7 version of what the Steelers do with Troy. Could help with the transition if we just man him up on the best TE/RB.

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He would excel in that type of coverage.

Plus looping him around the corner on LB stunts is still an option. I dont think that he will be handicapped anywhere in a 3-4.

by SmokeyBell on Jan 18, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah idk how i skipped the draft

An thats my favorite part of the season. Now i gotta make another mock considering the 2 hires.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

My vote is for Turner

We could replace him with Darrell Scott from USF. 6’2" 240 4.46 40. Projeced in the 7th round.

Babineaux could be shown the door as well if we do go the 3-4 route

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Babs would work as a 3-4 DE.

I believe he has the speed and would get upfield especially if the OLB distracts the tackle.

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by AnOldBird on Jan 17, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Me 2

Plus he is stout against the run.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Top FA DTs for 2012

Antonio Garay (SD)
Aubrayo Franklin (NO)
Sione Pouha (NYJ) – NT

Aubrayo Franklin could be a steal and wouldn’t cost much, I doubt Jets will let Sione Puha walk.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

The difference between a 3-4 and 4-3 defense is way overblown.

Not to mention the variance in each category makes it basically meaningless. On the 3-4 side, you’ve got traditional 2-gap systems that prefer big nose tackles, while other “3-4” defenses like Dallas played Jay Ratcliff (sub 300 pounds) at the nose and employed one-gap tendencies.

A good coach should have preferences, but have the ability to be versatile. Look at BB in NE, everyone made so much over the world ending change to a 4-3 defense, and BB pointed out these are all media constructions. So do we need to revamp our defensive line to have two ends around 6-5 or 6-6, roughly 300 pounds, and a nose in the 350 pound range? No, but if we can pick up some different pieces, all the better for defending certain situations. Especially short yardage.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i think BB

Was grossly oversimplifing that.

Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.

by VaderX5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

There are still 4 rushers on the majority of snaps

Whether one is called a defensive end or outside linebacker, whether a zone blitz features a dropping linebacker or defensive end, there isn’t much difference. The real differences are entirely independent of their base personnel as 4-3 or 3-4.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Does any team run a 3-4 on turt?

Cant think of any off the top of my head.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Idk let me rephrase that

Do any dome teams run a 3-4?

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hmmm...

There aren’t too many true dome teams, so my guess is none.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Houston?

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by a hooter's baby on Jan 17, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah and look at them

3-4 in a dome is crazy. The speed of a 3-4 D on turf would be sick.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think they play on actual grass, though...

Still, I like the idea, as pierre02 indicates below, of a fast, blitzing 3-4. As a Dawg fan who has seen a shift from BVG’s scheme (literally) to a 3-4, I like the change…a lot.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

I’m an idiot. I forgot about Jerry World. I was thinking about the Old Cowboys Stadium…

Although, as with most domes, the roof is retractable.

How many true domes are left? I count four: N.O., Atlanta, Minny, and Detroit?

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Would only say 3,

Vikings roof is retractable ;) sort of, just need a lot of snow :O

by DanishFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Cardinals play 3-4 in a dome

On grass, planted on a sheet that rolls out into the sun so it won’t die.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

NOLAN!!

“Hey BT, you alright buddy?”…“It’s gonna take months to get that smile off his face, I think he’s happy about the choice the Falcons made ahe!!”

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

what does the dude holding a joint...

look so much like Brooke Hogan?

And why is that dude holding a joint?

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Jan 17, 2012 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh...that's a chick...it's a shot from "Archer".

A show on FX…very funny show!!

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Season premire is Thursday...did you download it??

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuuuuuuuuuuuup!!!

"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Modern NFL defenses play lot of Nikel packages.

I just looked at the snap count notes i maintain for DB’s and LB’s. The falcons were in 4-2-5 about 45% of the time. The rest 55% of 4-3 or 3-4 can be hybrid.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

Or you can run nickle packages like Dom Capers

With a 3-3-5 or 2-4-5, the latter of which I think is a lot of fun to play with.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I second THAT emotion!!

"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you actually look that up or just stumble accross that info...lol

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Too funny!!

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe it will work

He has better stats at points in his career then his OC counterpart, but he is another guy that was about to hit the bricks. His lastest Miami D was virtually the same in points and yards given up as BVG’s Falcons, This will also be his 7th stint as a DC, the longest of which was four years (1st one) the shortest of which was 1 year (two of them), so he averages 2.3 years as a DC. Not too good.

How long do you think it will take to shift to the 3 4 which what he prefers?

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 17, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

To really make the switch...

Probably until 2013. I think they can run some 3-4 packages with current personnel IF they get a nose tackle.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Normally, a switch to 3-4 would take 2 to 3 years

Given the large number of Free agents we currently have on defense, that could potentially be shortened to 1 year, with 1 year in a hybrid system.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I have confidence in it

Spoon and Dent would be beasts and we’ve got good potential in our ends. I’ve never been high on Robert James and I’m indifferent on Adkins. The real question mark is on Spoon. As somebody mentioned earlier, he’s athletic enough, but I’m thinking he gets gobbled by opposing tackles. I hope I’m wrong.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction, Lofton and Dent

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoon "COULD" go OLB

Ala James Harrison, as DanishFalcons mentioned below. But, that’s a stretch – although ’Spoon does have the speed and coverage skills.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually thinking that's where I'd want him

I think they have to at least try.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd have to add at least 30 pounds

But if he can do that and keep his quickness and speed…oh my.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Prefer spoon inside

Lofton is still suspect in coverage. I dont think Dent is that great either tho.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hard to say on Dent

But he did play in the 3-4 system at UGA.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I think both wouldn't be total disaster in coverage

And they better not be, because they won’t be immune to playing it.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting note on Dent from his days at Georgia...
Dent showed versatility as coaching changes shifted him from a 4-3 strong-side linebacker to an inside linebacker the 3-4 defense the Bulldogs employed in his senior season.

So he is versatile and has played in both a 4-3 and a 3-4 defense…

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Spoon and Lofton remind me a lot of Cushing and Ryans in Houston. That’s working out pretty well for them.

by alxn on Jan 17, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Love this,

Weatherspoon almost got same measureables as OLB Harrison(6’0", 242) from Steelers and spoon is 6’2", 244

by DanishFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

That's a good comparison

But remember too that Harrison has always been considered an undersized overperformer. So, he’s not a good standard to compare against.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

And Spoon

was just named to the Football Outsiders’ All-Pro Team. If he is, indeed, among the best, if not THE best OLB in the league right now, I guess we can take a shot at some Harrison comparisons.

by wiesengrund on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

DF posters unite!

Just gotta get DenverFalcon down here…

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Supposedly he's sticking with the 4-3

But it’s gonna be a hybrid defense. Possibly using a year or two to transfer to a 3 – 4 of they want to go that direction. This should free us up to get a NT to prep or a free safety. Allowing us to also address getting linemen for offense.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 17, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

Oh hell yeah!!

ATL is finally stepping up to the plate and hiring and OC and DC that can take the team to the next level.

Next season cannot get here soon enough!!

by mwalex on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

When I see this endorsement from you

I get the warm and fuzzies.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

HA!! You read my mind Dave...lol

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's okay

I’d prefer this team earned more from you.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh and THANK YOU ARTHUR BLANK!

Welcome to Atlanta coach Nolan. Should you guys pay off in a playoff win(s) you will be elevated to deity status post haste. We are hungry for winners.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 17, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Looking at his resume...

…the only thing that concerns me is how lengthy it is. He’s been the defensive coordinator for six (now seven) teams, but no one stint lasted longer than four years.

I’m not trying to be negative—he was successful with most of those teams, after all—but it’s a little strange. Anybody have a better sense than I do of what all the moving around is about?

by James13 on Jan 17, 2012 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

McDaniels was one reason

- Denver: McDaniels was a mercurial jerk supposedly and Nolan’s a man
- Washington: Should I really have to comment
- Miami: was fixing to hire a new HC and Atlanta has a GREAT front office and is playoff ready
- San Fran: Just weren’t quite there yet and maybe he’s just a better coordinator than HC. No shame there. Look at what HIS defense is doing now though.

So I’m not worried about it.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

To add to that

He left the Giants because they had one bad year under his tenure. I’m not sure he was fired, but that’s a concern point.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so

Not solely on him, but it’s worth mentioning.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

And...

He left the Ravens to be a H.C…

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh...

And he left the 2015 Doraville Falcons after three consecutive Super Bowl victories to become H.C.

Oh well.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

HA

Chances of being renamed to “Doraville” are the same chances I’m possessed by magical space monkeys that turn me into a super villain named Burf.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The 96 Giants

Were coached by Dan Reeves, his mentor.

And that D was 11th in DVOA when Nolan left. The 29th ranked Offense might have something to do with Reeves’ (and hence Nolan’s?) firing.

by wiesengrund on Jan 17, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, San Francisco doesn’t bother me—it makes perfect sense to take a shot at head coaching, and then go back to coordinating when that doesn’t work. It’s all the lateral moves that stand out. But that’s a pretty good answer, thanks. Concerns lessened.

by James13 on Jan 17, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

We could get Dontari Poe from Memphis to play NT

Height: 6-5. Weight: 350.
Projected 40 Time: 5.50.
Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

Poe totaled 33 tackles with eight tackles for a loss, one sack and one forced fumble. He did not play well against Mississippi State in the first game of the season and ended the year without a tackle for a loss in the last four games. Poe’s best game came against SMU when he registered a sack-fumble and three tackles.

Poe is a space eater who takes on multiple blocks. Even when his pad level is off, he is hard to move at the line of scrimmage. Poe should drop some weight to increase his agility so that he can make some plays that don’t go directly at him.

All information borrowed from Walter Football

by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, and he'd give us so many great Poe jokes!

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Strollin' with Nolan

I’m glad to see him join the staff and am really looking forward to seeing our defense be a lot trickier and tougher to play against in 2012.

by Thrashy Thrashy on Jan 17, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Just searched the 3-4 teams on nfl.com

the tendency I found was that the heavier up front the smaller OLB

The 3-4 tex and cowboys run had the heaviest OLB from 260 to williams at 278

a team like SD got all starting OLB (the 3 they rotated most at 250, 250 and 251, were shaun phillips (a beast) was at 250 and 6’3", but they got some NT at 340/330 and DE’s around 300

so I definitely think it’s possible if we just get a NT, and the DT we have can play DE’s Jerry, Peters, Babs got the size, not sure if Walker is quick enough

by DanishFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

Welcome aboard!

I’m extremely pleased with our new coaching staff. Happy to have Nolan here as DC, and as one post above mentioned…Next season can’t come soon enough. I’m eager to see what his plans are with the D, whether it’s converting to a 3-4 or Hybrid. How and what will do during free agency to add missing components to the D, and who will be drafting. Very busy, and exciting off season in Atlanta!

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by Edgecrusher211 on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

Exciting hire!

Crazy day for Falcons news…

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by orang3b on Jan 17, 2012 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

Yep...

now we just need Nicks to sign onto our OL!!!

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Hire. I'm jazzed about Nolan.

About three years ago, Coach Smith talked about employing elemets of the 3-4, but I don’t remember seeing any. Unless it was the three-man rush when we needed to give up a third-an-long.

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by AnOldBird on Jan 17, 2012 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

It won't take much to successfully switch to a 3-4

- Acquire a true 3-4 OLB and convert Biermann and Sidbury to outside linebackers.
- Acquire a true nose tackle (could be the most challenging task). Convert Peters and Babineaux to 3-4 defensive ends.
- Keep Edwards where he is, a bigger 4-3 defensive end could make a suitable 3-4 end.
- Have Weatherspoon and Lofton as your two inside backers.

by mr92687!!! on Jan 17, 2012 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

No to Biermann

And Spoon would get destroyed by guards on the inside.

Mathews could fill Biermanns void.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Watch Jarrett Johnson and Paul Kruger of the Ravens this weekend

Not much seperates them two from Kroy Biermmann…talent wise, physically, or size… They are fine in a base 3-4. Spoon is actually bigger than Lofton at 6’2’’ 245, while Lofton is 6’0 240, so really they’re both too small so I don’t know. Lofton is due up to become a free agent, Spoon could bulk up a little, you never know…

by mr92687!!! on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I Think

If we put spoon and Lofton in the middle no one can touch our ilbs in the 3-4 then, commona spoon and lofton flying around making plays stunts on blitzs oh man im fired up for this seasona already, plus with babs and peters not only aere they good at stopping the run but they can generate pressure from that end spot

by Nedk23 on Jan 17, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Why i think

theyll use a hybrid and bring them along slowely so next yr we can full out use it

by Nedk23 on Jan 17, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Im sure they both can tackle much better than Biermann.

If you want steady whiffs on opponents, then Biermann is your guy.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So you missed every game

Dude whiffed on QB’s like it was his job. Not to mention he’s a liability in the run game.

There’s better options out there.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

GREAT hire...

I am really, really excited to see this team with Nolan running the D. As long as our no-name OC can prove himself decently competent and keep teams from just pounding the rock on us, Nolan’s blitzing schemes should have a huge huge impact on how we play in big games

by throw it down the fugging field matt on Jan 17, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions  

I think our OC's job will be

to diagram the plays, expand the no-huddle calls and let MR effectively be the OC on the field. That’s why I was more nervous about our DC hire.

by drmondo667 on Jan 17, 2012 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

For those who think this means

walking papers for Abraham, lets keep in mind some of his most productive years were spent as OLB in a 3-4 scheme with the Jets. This scheme move actually may prolong Abe’s career. Edwards is NOT a 3-4 DE IMO but then again Smitty actually had Biermann line up as a 3-4 DE on some downs in the past. I thought that was a ridiculous move and I lost a little respect for Smitty as a coach when he thought a 260lb man could play that position. It’s gonna be a hybrid scheme at best for the first year, no way they just go full 3-4 right out of the gate. THE main piece is the 6’3 340lb pot bellied pig in the middle and you don’t just turn a guy into this, this is born and bred specifically for the purpose. Sidbury should excel in this 3-4 hybrid scheme not so sure about Biermann though he may still get his walking papers. I like Biermann as a rotational guy but a new contract means a pay raise and we can get what Biermann provides without having to commit to a 3 or 4 year contract extension. (Matthews)

by Kushion on Jan 17, 2012 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Exactly. Contrary to what some folks have posted

Abe was pretty good as a 3-4 LB. He even made pro bowl

by leonw92 on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

that's incorrect

2005 Jets (HC Herm Edwards) were a still 4-3 team. They transitioned to a 3-4 in 2006 (still primarily 4-3) and 2007 after they hired Eric Mangini.

Abe came to ATL in 2006 – best I can tell, he’s never played OLB in a 3-4.

Actually, that’s not right either… Looks like the 2000 NYJ played a 3-4 (under DC Mike Nolan!). That was Abe’s Rookie year. He played in 6 Games (0 starts) and had 4.5 Sacks. Al Groh was run out of town after only 1 season as HC (they were 9-7; does anybody remember why everybody was fired?), and Herm was there in 2001, running a 4-3.

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by orang3b on Jan 18, 2012 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you sir

I was pretty certain that Abe did not do well as OLB in a 3-4, and that was the primary reason we were able to snag him.

by The DW on Jan 18, 2012 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

This is amazing because

with a 3-4 package the nfcs teams wont have much tape on us so our should be steller this year, im sure well use 4-3 its gonna be a nice mix of both, i think nolan can do grea things with the talent on our defense im really excited for this

by Nedk23 on Jan 17, 2012 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

really hope Spags dosent go to the saints...

If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set

by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 17, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions  

It's sounding like it might happen

Apparently, Spags interviewed with the new GM and Caldwell yesterday. Very interesting timing that Caldwell is let go today. I’d bet that the Colts make Spags the HC.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Which...

If it happened, would make the Nolan hire even more impressive, for we’d be getting, in my opinion, the best D.C. on the market.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we got a great DC regardless

Even if Spags ends up in NO as DC, it’s not as if Atlanta got sloppy seconds.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally...

I wanted Nolan more.

I’m merely saying that if Spags is considering H.C. options, it’s no contest we got the best, which speaks volumes to the quality of our franchise right now. Top candidates want to come even if there’s potentially heat under the coach’s rear. Why? We have a ton of talent, a committed owner, and great fans.

GATA!

by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Was kinda hoping for Spags

But I guess I’m good with the Nolan pick. I’m certainly happier with this than our OC selection…

by randomaxe on Jan 17, 2012 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Saints are gonna suck next year.

They are gonna be cash strapped. Brees, Colston and like 20 other FAs to deal with and little salary cap to boot.

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Jan 17, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It's the way they build their team

they aquire a lot of talent through trades and FA and then part ways after maybe 2 contracts, I wouldn’t put money on them sucking next year.

by RANewton on Jan 17, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

would be happy

To take Nicks off their hands!

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by Edgecrusher211 on Jan 17, 2012 6:34 PM EST reply actions  

Jason La Canfora

Is all but saying that Nicks will not be a Saint next year. I’d be surprised if we didn’t make a hard run at him.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah if they want to keep ol Breesy

They won’t be able to sign Nicks.

by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah - way too much money

From what I read, it’s Brees, Coulston and Nicks on the block. Brees will easily count around 15 mil towards the cap. From there, it becomes almost impossible to get both Nicks and Coulston.

I do hope the FO is targeting Nicks. I would think they are, given they have seen him twice a year for the past few years.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm Back

Not flipping out this time though. I love BOTH picks for coordinators. Especially Nolan. If he decides to change our D to a 3-4 then there is definetly going to be a hybrid season. A 3-4 is something most other teams in our division are not currently playing. I read an article on it and it does seem that being the odd man out isn’t exactly a bad thing. Also using the screen on offense more this season should be a perfect fit for Julios catch and run style. Along with taking heat off of Matt Ryan and Turner. Both coordinators are set up for success and the one that has the most work in front of him is known for bringing good defenses into the great catagory. Very excited for next season.

by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 17, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

There are concerns over going to a 3-4

Guys, honestly, we could switch a 3-4 and have girl scouts playing at both safety positions and it would still be better than BVG’s best game.

by mwalex on Jan 17, 2012 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

I want to try that

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If we want a rookie NT

Look up this dude named Alameda Ta’amu from the university of Washington

by GTbacker on Jan 17, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Possibly try to trade

But given his lack of performance, he will probably just be cut. That is assuming they’re planning on moving to a 3-4, which is not necessarily a given.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there a better name?

Mister Cobble is out there lol

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by Edgecrusher211 on Jan 17, 2012 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

Now if we can get

Good QB and Oline coaching in here. Can’t forget about the importance of the two.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

Also

Blank doesn’t f*** around. We’re looking at four new coaches.

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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Very good idea

They were one of the absolute best lines this year – in both running and passing games.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't they run a zone blocking scheme?

Not sure how big of a deal it would be to switch schemes, or if there’s an entirely different set of criteria for players in that scheme. Anyways, why would he leave a contending team for the same position on another?

by orion12 on Jan 17, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

JP was one of the least rpoductive people on our line.

Cut him bring in a big defensive lineman with one of our few picks. The way the front office has been acting with all of the hiring and firing they seem to be confident in our offense and are now looking to boost our defense. They have done a good job so far. I have faith they can follow through. Plus its our head coaches mentality.

by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

Happy with this one.

NIce to get a solid DC. As wide open as the NFCS has been getting a good DC is necessity.

by OldBird67 on Jan 17, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Very true

We’ve got two offensively minded teams in the Panthers and Saints that we have to play twice a year. If the Panthers can get some of their guys healthy, they’re going to make a nice jump. I think the Bucs are in for a rebuilding year. And we all know how the Saints are about scoring.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Like the Pick

I do not think he will change much on our base defense still solely 4-3, however I do believe he will be bring a wider variety of packages and personnel in nickel and dime situations that our team desperately needs. He likes to bring pressure and put his players in winning positions and I’m not entirely sure but of the teams in his past named they were also all very sure tackling teams, i hope that catches on here in Atlanta.

by dirtybirdsrolltide on Jan 17, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

3-4 what to expect

resign kroy biermann and move him to olb, ask john abraham to play olb. if not sign an expierenced 3-4 olb. keep ray edwards at de hes big enough to hold his own, move peters to de, and finnally draft a 3 techinque nt to plug the middle

by R.I.P Bobby Cox on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

I wanted Spags, and I'm guessing this means

N.O. got Spags. I’ve always seen the 4-3 as a more effective pass defense, and the 3-4 as more effective against the run. I’m excited that Nolan and Smitty worked in Baltimore together and that he will ask him to implement Baltimore’s 4-3 hybrid with NT type tackles.

by BEZERKO on Jan 17, 2012 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Not necessarily on Spags

There’s a possibility he’s looking at a HC position at Indy, which would definitely interest him more. Also, Andy Reid just got back from vacation, so it’s possible that Spags will still interview with the Iggles.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

New Orleans is supposedly interviewing him tomorrow

But Indy could offer him a HC job with Caldwell being fired.

There’s no way we transform to a 3-4 this year, but like most have said we could run some hybrid packages in certain situations.

Spoon could still be an effective OLB, with his speed and strength, and move to ILB on passing downs, with Biermann and Sid moving to OLB. There’s a lot that could be done, but base package will remain a 4-3.

by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

On top of that, most 3-4 defenses rarely run the 3-4 as their base defense more than 45 to 55% of their snaps.

by The DW on Jan 17, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Succesful 3-4, 4-3 hybrids are just amazing when they work

Oakland in the tuck rule year, their D was just unstoppable on that 3-4 4-3 switch. If we can run it well I’d love it. If he’s blitz happy I’m assuming we’re not going to see too much soft zone, so hey, at least that’s a n improvement regardless. Pumped about this.

by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 17, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

Lulz

Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.

by InMattWeTrust on Jan 17, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

With Ray on the team

it’d be pretty awesome if he could get hot and rack up a crazy number of qb sacks, if only for the opportunity for the chant “Ray’s gonna kill ya! Ray’s gonna kill ya!”

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by falconnuke on Jan 17, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

My 2012 fantasy Falcons starting Defense if we switch to 34...

DE – Jonathan Babineaux 6’2"/296 lbs.
NT – Paul Soliai (UFA from Miami) 6’5"/355 lbs.
DE – Corey Peters 6’3"/295 lbs.
OLB – Robert Mathis (UFA from Indianapolis) 6’2"/245 lbs.
ILB – Curtis Lofton 6’0"/242 lbs.
ILB – Sean Weatherspoon 6’1"/239 lbs.
OLB – L. Sidbury/K. Biermann
CB – Tracy Porter (UFA from New Orleans) 5’11"/186 lbs.
FS – Michael Griffin (UFA from Tennessee) 6’0’’/202 lbs.
SS – William Moore 6’0’’/218 lbs.
CB – Dominique Franks 5’11’’/194 lbs.

Reserves
CB – Chris Owens (has good potential)
CB – Dunta Robinson (will probably get cut)
CB – Darrin Walls (for depth)
DE – John Abraham (probably doesn’t get resigned)
DE – Ray Edwards (??? Can u say trade block)
DT – Peria Jerry (good for depth; maybe trade bait since he’s getting paid so much money)
DT – Vance Walker
LB – Spencer Adkins
LB – Akeem Dent
S – Shan Schillinger

Now I don’t know if we’re have enough cap space to make this lineup come to fruition but its wishful thinking.
Robert Mathis is a pass rushing specialist
Tracy Porter is pretty decent cover corner and nice replacement for Brent Grimes
Michael Griffin is a ball hawking safety

What do u think??

by IceMan83 on Jan 17, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Hate to say it

but I don’t think we will be spending any big money on defense this year. Unless Nolan really really wants someone. Money will be spent on the O line, and drafting any guys we lose or trade away.

by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Line up

Base

DL – Edwards, Peters, Babs, Sid
LB – Spoon, Lofton, Nicholas
CB – Dunta, Decoud, Moore, Franks

Nickel

LB – Spoon, Lofton
CB – Dunta, Decoud, Moore, Franks/Heydon (if resigned), Frank/Owens (if Heydon not resigned)

3-4

DL – Edwards/Peters, Babs/Walker, Peters/Babs
LB – Biermann/Spoon, Spoon/Dent/Nicholas, Lofton, Sid
CB – Dunta, Decoud, Moore, Franks

So yes, Jerry is cut, Abe and Grimes are not resigned. Matthews moves into the rotation, Heydon resigned, or Walls gets promoted to #4 CB.

by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel u, but...

Dunta Robinson couldn’t cover my 80 yr. old grandmother, I hope they cut him or trade him. And DeCoud turned into a matador when Brandon Jacobs was running towards him. We can’t have that. We need a little more toughness in the secondary. Robinson can give that, but he just can’t cover. So maybe he should be a safety.

by IceMan83 on Jan 17, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting idea

but i think the consensus is Dunta was just a bad fit for a soft cover 2 zone scheme. Cover 2 only works well when you have an effective pass rush. Even Asomogha struggled in a zone, and the Eagles had a nasty D line.

A switch to press coverage would benefit Dunta, I think Nolan will like him and he stays at least another year.

by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wrong about DR

he is a press DB, not zone. Also Porter is not that good a DB. He was supported by Williams blitz schemes and would not be better than DR or BG in zone coverage.

Peters nor Babs would be a better DE than RE, in a 4-3 or 3-4.

DeCoud played better than Griffin this season. Griffin was pain $3.3 million for this past season while DeCoud made $550,000. Griffin would be more expensive and not an upgrade.

by mwalex on Jan 17, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Still love this

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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 10:25 PM EST reply actions  

These two coordinators...

…versus our previous one’s would have gotten us two more wins this year, if not also a playoff win. Liking them both.

by HotLunch4You on Jan 17, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Whoohoo!

I hated the wimpy zone we used to play and I think my prayers have been answered. Yes I pray about football at times :)

by Tsynr on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Solid

hire, I can only hope there is a change in attitude as well to go along with what schemes are brought in with the new coaches. The squad this year seemed to lose confidence as the game went into the second half too many times. Missed tackles and blown assignments you can record and see, but confidence that you will win and that your coaches will put you in the best position to win plays a big role. Haven’t been this excited about defense since Glanville was running the D(with that guy you never knew what he’d throw at you, but it was fun to watch)

by mvs2417 on Jan 18, 2012 4:14 AM EST reply actions  

Great Pick for DC

I could post his stats to back it up…. but no need…. he has improved every team he has coached….

by Lfletcher on Jan 18, 2012 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

We need better players to go with that DC!

He can get the job done WAY better than the guy he is replacing but we need better talent also, if we don’t get superior players over the ones on the field now, it won’t matter who the coaches are. Personally I think Smith should have been fired as well.

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