Mike Nolan Is The New Atlanta Falcons Defensive Coordinator
When the Falcons went for Dirk Koetter as offensive coordinator, many speculated that the defensive coordinator would be a big splash. Others nervously joked that it might be Jack Del Rio.
Well, set that speculation to rest today, because the Atlanta Falcons have hired Mike Nolan, according to multiple sources including Jeff Schultz of the AJC. The former defensive coordinator for the New York Giants, New York Jets, Baltimore Ravens, Denver Broncos and Miami Dolphins brings almost 20 years of defensive acumen to Atlanta, where he'll be asked to take a middling unit with flashes of brilliance and turn it into something dominant.
That's road he's traveled before. In his very first year as defensive coordinator for the Giants, his defense was seventh against the run and tenth against the pass. In his lone year for the Jets, the team ranked 6th against both the pass and run. His vaunted Ravens defense improved yearly and twice ranked second best against the run in yards per attempt. In the last three years of his career, he guided the Broncos and Dolphins to quality . The Dolphins suffered some setbacks against the pass in 2011, but their run defense was absolutely dominant.
The only bad stretch of his career was in Washington from '97-'99, when he still managed to cajole a quality passing defense out of that team. There have been years where one side of the defense or another has been below average, as well, but by and large Nolan's team have put a quality D on the field time and time again.
What does this hire mean for the Falcons? A lot. Nolan has run both a 4-3 and 3-4 in his career, and changes are good he'll be asked to install a hybrid system in Atlanta. That could very well mean some personnel changes in the defensive front seven. In general, though, the D should be predicated on tighter coverage, a better pass rush and changing up the scheme to confuse opposing offenses. In essence, it ought to be an improvement.
More on that pass rush. Nolan teams love blitzing, to the point where stories like this actually gain traction. The Falcons are going to have to decide quickly whether they have guys who can hack it with Nolan in charge or whether they need to make personnel changes, because they didn't bring this guy in to run Brian Van Gorder's defense.
Finally, don't entirely rule out a wholesale transition to a 3-4, though it would be awfully tough to make the change in a single year. If that's what Nolan wants—and if he thinks guys like Lawrence Sidbury can roll to OLB in a 3-4 and Dimitroff can get this team a huge nose tackle—then it might happen. The secondary would remain more or less unchanged in that scenario, more than likely.
I like this move on more than one level. The Falcons talked about making changes, and simply hiring Nolan ensures the defense will have a vastly different look and feel in 2012. Nolan has an established track record of improving defenses and has a knack for getting huge effort and production out of the players he coaches. He'll also fit in with the current coaching staff nicely, having worked with Smitty in Baltimore and being the kind of intelligent, quiet guy this franchise favors. Above all, he's just a damn good coordinator.
Hell, I'm thrilled. What do you think of Nolan?
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That's actually my concern
schematically I think the 3-4 is a much more effective defense than the 4-3. However, I’m not sure we have the personnel to run the offense. Also, it would likely mean good bye Jon Abraham
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
* against the pass.
The 4-3 is more sound for stopping the run. But Abe is gone anyway.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Traditionally,
The 3-4 is viewed as superior at run stopping due to the 4 LBs. Teams moved to the 4 man front to improve the pass rush.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Traditionally, yes.
Today’s 3-4 defenses aren’t used the same way they used to be. Very rarely do all 4 LBs stay home nowadays, which naturally creates running lanes in favor of a pass rush. of course, if you have a 350 lb. NT that can pretty well shut down inside runs by himself then that changes a lot.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
I feel like
all the top run stopping teams are 3-4. The top 4 are Houston, Baltimore, San Fran and Miami. I believe they all run 3-4’s.
Not in YPC.
The top 3 are, but the next 4 are all 4-3. Conversely, all of the top 5 pass defenses are 3-4 in terms of passer rating, and there is a much greater difference between the top tier and next tier than there is in yards per carry.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Like it alot.
The question is do we let go other defensive postion coaches.
It's all about Process...
isn't smitty a 4-3 guy?
How easily will these two get along as far as defensive philosophy?
by DezL12 on Jan 17, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Smitty is a 4-3 guy
but TD is a 3-4 guy and I think he feels more comfortable building a 3-4 defense
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
overall I would want my HC and coordinators to mesh well
Hope they don’t differ too much
by DezL12 on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've heard talk of a hybrid
we would have to this season as we lack the draft picks and cap to go all the way to 3-4
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Right now all Smitty is allowed to do is sit there and nod his head
Multiple embarrassments on national TV get your opinion card revoked for a while.
by aces666high on Jan 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What about
Spoon, Dent, Lofton, and Sidbury (assuming he can make the change to OLB) or maybe we can pick up Mario Williams in FA
by DenverFalcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
KB71 was a LB when he was Drafted by Falcons.
Biggest concern is NT.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Spencer Adkins can be a good ILB.
He played well against the Giants and Bucs.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Edward could be a 5 tech in a 3-4
he has the length and similar body type to keisel in Pit and Smith in Hou. But given his ability against the run I think if he can add 10 – 15 pounds he can be very effective.
Sadly JA98 would be a better fit for 5 tech end
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Spoon and Lofton would fit will as ILB
While Sidbury is a great fit as an OLB (as well as Biermann).
That’s assuming we go to a pure 3-4 model. I think they’ll probably go with a split or hybrid system to compliment our existing staff.
And Peters, Babs and Jerry as rotational ends
This would not be impossible.
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I feel that
Babs is a bit overpriced for a 3-4 end and we need a true nose tackle
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think they'll go get one
Or at least ask Walker to buff up.
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Of those options
getting someone outside the organization would be preferable
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine they will
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Another concern
who do you feel will play the so-called “jack” linebacker position? That’s the position that Houston converted Mario Williams to and that Demarcus Ware plays in Dallas for everyone else
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine they'll evaluate that
But my best guess is Ray Edwards.
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I think Ray is trade bait at this point. I think
the OLBs could be Spoon and Biermann (both have the same type of motor. ILB Lofton and Dent (ILB at UGA).
Drafting Dent suddenly looks fantastic
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Spoon would be a much better fit at ILB, IMO
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Spoon is a bit too small to succeed as OLB in a 3-4.
Why?
He has played OLB the past 2 yrs amd this yr got after the QB pretty good. Why wld a change from 4-3, to 3-4 mean he is too small?
I think spoon and a rotation of KB and Sid at OLB, with Dent, Lofton, Nicholas at ILB.
Edwards, Matthews, Peters, Babs at DE with Perry and a heavy draft pick for NT.
by Magellan55 on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Most 3-4 OLB
Are about 2 inches taller and about 20 pounds heavier.
But, ’Spoon does have a high motor and could do well as a 3-4 OLB, but he may not rack up the sack totals that a Demarcus Ware would put up.
Clay Mathews is 6'3" and 254, so if spoon could take a few lbs he would do fine I think
with spoon on one and Sid/Cliff on other and Dent/Lofton in the middle with Adkins, nicholas, Bier as rotation
by DanishFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think it's impossible for him to play there
He might be undersized, but I’d want to give him the shot. His pass rushing ability would be wasted inside.
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Oh - I'd love to see him get a shot
I’m just saying that in a typical 3-4, if you were drafting for OLB, ‘Spoon doesn’t fit the standard mold of what you’d look for there.
That said, now that we’ve seen what he’s capable of, I think he could do well. I’m still not sure he would be at the level of a Ware, but he could have an impact.
And I definitely see your point
Especially because Cliff Matthews and Sidbury seem to be better fits on paper, as DanishFalcons noted.
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wait are we gonna try get someone other than spoon at OLD because he's not in the same class as Ware?
Didn’t he like lead the league in sacks this season? isn’t that setting the bar a little high
Resisting TWSS
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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Im with you on that
He is undersized is want him to play inside and just go down hill and make plays, but some dudes are just born to play 3-4 olb see, matthews, aldon smith, von miller, think spoon could be one cause his burst is unreal, plus during the draft mayock said spoon was the most complete LB can play all 3 positions in 4-3 and some in the 3-4
Is Grady Jackson still playing?
I guess he was a 340 Pound Big DT.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
He's running a barbershop in Gwinnett Co.
So no more Gravy Jackson
by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts as well
The problem with Atlanta in a 3-4 is that we lack a true “jack” linebacker
by RichieGrogan on Jan 17, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ony problem with a Hybrid
would be the potential for penalties if there are any mental lapses. Nolan tried it in SF one year and they had a slew of procedural penalties.
by DenverFalcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Plus nobody knows how to fix the dam things yet.
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
Plus there is a galore of 3-4 OLB's in the draft
Its like the hot position on D. Speed is the name of the game for defenses nowadays.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It would be pretty difficult to find an impactful edge-rushing LB outside of the first round. I think the team would be better off setting their sights on a nose tackle in the early rounds if they are really going to switch to a 3-4. Houston didn’t have a dominant edge rusher after Williams went down and they still made it work pretty well.
There's a few out there
Sione Pouha-NYJ-
Antonio Garay-SD- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smuv32N0Bc8
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by nj_falconfan on Jan 17, 2012 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Miami's NT is a free agent.
Spiaoli, some somoan name. But he seems like a good fit if Nolan liked him there.
If Spags becomes Colts HC
Spags interviewed with Colts for DC position. That would be a crazy twist.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Woooo!!
Can’t wait for free agency and the draft now! I see great things in the future for this franchise. I’m aware that there will be growing pains but we can handle it
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes!
And no we’re not running a 3-4 guys, it’ll probably be a sort of a hybrid 4-3, just not enough personnel to be running 3-4 on this team… as of now
It's exciting yes
But again this could be a growing pain year.
So let’s temper it a bit like this:
by brotherbrown on Jan 17, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Great hire
And for those who are worried, it is entirely possible to run a 3-4 or hybrid system without a huge nose tackle. Houston does it and has a tremendous amount of success.
I think we’ll see a true hybrid system and guys like Sidbury and Bierrman will be given a chance to rush from an upright LB type of position.
Heck...
It’s not like our pass-rush was dominant in the 4-3…
Since we’re changing things up, why not try different schemes?
I love the hire.
GATA!
Rumors are Saints wont be able to resign Nicks
Since they have to fork kver so much for Brees. We should be in play for him.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nolan as a DC
For those who missed it, I took a DVOA-based look at his career as a DC there, in case someone’s interested.
by wiesengrund on Jan 17, 2012 3:16 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Last year unusual Off season probably influenced TD and MS not to change things
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Nolan as DC
It will be nice to have a variety of blitz packages to throw out there.
It won’t be boring, that’s for sure.
Nolan a big blitzer
This bodes well for our corners. You’ll likely see quite a few of our blitzes backed up by receiver disruption and man-coverage. That plays very well into the hands of guys like Dunta.
This thread is blowing up fast.
Great hire by the way.
Mke Nolan for DC?
Would have wanted Steve Spagnuolo but Nola is nice to have too. Iam really excited about our defense!!!
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by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 17, 2012 3:20 PM EST reply actions
You didn't know they were our AAA team?
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, then...
It’s about damn time we call up MJD!
GATA!
by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn mind having him and Lewis
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
straight up trade turner for MJD
Think MM would go for it?
Jack del Rio for O Line coach?
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
He was a LB back in the day
Wouldn’t mind him as LB coach
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Welcome to the 21st century Falcons Defense!
Please insert your high school zone playbooks into the shredder and pick up your flash drives on what a hybrid 4-3/3-4 means to you…
by aces666high on Jan 17, 2012 3:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Love it!!!!
remember our personel can fit the 3-4 Dallas and Houston runs that Wade installed where u don’t need huge NT Jay Ratliff is 305.
I absolutely love this hire
September feels so far away at this point.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Jan 17, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions
I am very pleased. I don’t know much about schemes, so I will leave the 3-4’s and 4-3’s to those who study that sort of thing. But Nolan’s got an impressive resume. This even makes me feel that much better about the Koetter hire. Smitty and TD have a plan.
by ChardeeMacDennis on Jan 17, 2012 3:28 PM EST reply actions
Some of the things in here don't react too well to bullets.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 10:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We got one of the guys we wanted.
Now we just need Spags to go to Philly so we don’t have to face him twice a year.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions
But we will have to face philly once a year
Face them every year except 2007 since 2005.
by brotherbrown on Jan 17, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely Love this Hire
Here’s to Hoping the Saints or Eagles don’t Scoop Spags Though. But hey I’m ready for this season. NT should be our Biggest concern Because I think Abe could play a Pretty Good OLB role Much like Ware in Dallas. The only thing other than NT we would need is a New Safety or Corner that could Help ease the Growing Pains that are Bound to Occur, But nonetheless I’m am ecstatic about this Hire he fits almost perfectly.
by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 3:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Same here
If I recall correctly he has already been tried as a 3-4 OLB and failed at it, isnt that how we got him to begin with?
Yea now that I think about it
You guys may be Right. But nonetheless we are going to need a Veteran Pass rusher in order to keep that Constant Pressure. But another note, as I recall the Jets were Forcing him To Cover Tight-ends and Sometimes even go Man. I think if we Use him like Dallas uses Ware or the Texans use Williams (Rush on 90% of Plays) then that could be A monumental advantage over the Left Tackle.
by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'd let him go
Love the guy but I just don’t think he is the riht man for the job at this stage in his career. He ould be one expensive mistake…
Yea
Maybe we do have to let him Walk. We just need to get another elite pass rusher. But what about Ray Edwards?? We pay him too much to just be a Run Stoping Lineman. We should Package him into a trade for draft picks.
by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Given the relatively low cost we got him at
I think we could get a decent pick for him.
This is a MAJORRR stretch but what if we
Somehow Package Edwards And Decoud into a trade in order to move up and Draft Donte Hightower of Alabama? Again Sounds Crazy but that Dude is A playmaker and Seeing as how we would need to get rid of a few pieces this Makes a little Sense.
by falcons101 on Jan 17, 2012 4:22 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Isn't he projected...
to go in the first? If so, with as low as our #2 pick is going to be…we just don’t have any package that would move us to where we would need to be to get him…unless you’re talking taking out Decoud and adding RW.
I would love to have Hightower as well but I just don’t see a scenario where this is even remotely possible without giving up more picks (which we are in short supply of already) or giving up a big name or two…
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Not necessarily...Abe played in a 3-4 while he was with the Jets
I’m sure he’d be able to do it again.
He was not nearly as good while he was with the Jets
That’s part of the reason we were able to land him.
He did
But he was unhappy in the 3-4 system and preferred rushing from a 4-3 scheme.
Oh, well he may be gone then, unless
we use him specifically in the 4-3 packages, but I doubt we’d keep him for that reason.
Age, price and lower production
Are the main reasons I think he leaves. But, if we can get him back for one year at a good price, we may still opt to keep him.
Time for a SEXY PARTY
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 17, 2012 3:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Both OC and DC comming in from Florida Teams.
If only Bucs had a great QB Coach it would have been a clean sweep.
It's all about Process...
Curses!
#%@&!!!!!!!
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
You'll excuse my chortles
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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and mine
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Over at CSC, they’re already raising the awful prospect of Payton promoting his bud Joe Vitt to DC. I don’t see that working.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
You guys have to get a Spags or a Bowles
It’s a transition year for both of our teams, and we both need/needed good coordinators.
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What we need
is someone who can get our defense to play with the kind of intensity and focus they play with whenever they play you. Just do it 16 games a year, is all.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
rivalry/hatred will do that to a team
Dont cloud the issue with facts!
Great defenses
hate everybody.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
What do you think of Bowles?
I think he’s a very talented coach, and he doesn’t seem to be in demand.
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We should bring him in 2
He did coach under Nolan in Mia.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know anything about him
I do wonder why was he chosen over Nolan for the interim title. You think Stephen Ross knows something that TD doesn’t? Yeah, me neither.
What! shall we curse the planets of mishap
That plotted thus our glory's overthrow?
Go for Brian Van Gorder
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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
-1 Karma for you sir
But a +2 for team loyalty. Net gain, not bad.
and in exchange
send us Carl NIcks’ phone number
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That IS his phone number.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
you guys just need a 16th ranked defense in any and every category
And you guys should be decent.
by brotherbrown on Jan 17, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Never even heard of the guy
Thus he gets my vote of full confidence!
Mario would be nice...
….and fit a 3-4 nicely. He was having a great year this year until he got hurt. Wade’s 3-4 benefited him. Also, I get the feeling that Arthur is really going to open up the wallet for free agents. I think that he thinks he owes it to the fans to get a big name in here. I don’t think it would be desperation on his part, more of an “Enough dilly dally, let’s do this right” train of thought. Both in the interest of a fast turnaround as well as the fact that we sold the proverbial draft farm.
In a way, each of us has an El Guapo to face.
Mario would be a huge pickup
But if we do switch to a 3-4, I think Sidbury would do very well at OLB. He’s built perfectly for the OLB in a 3-4 system and was – IIRC – projected as a 3-4 OLB coming out of college.
Plus
Sidburys speed rating In madden is like an 87 which is amazing for DEs
by superfalcon on Jan 17, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's never played there
Not even in college.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 17, 2012 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Falcons have 24 M in Capspace for 2012 at this point.
Would be interesting to see how they split between the OL and the DL.
It's all about Process...
Several very good OL prospects in the draft
And several of them will go into the second and third rounds. I think we can find our next C in the draft, pick up a RG through FA (Nicks, hopefully). LT remains the question mark, but by filling in the C position via the draft, that takes a huge load off of cap concerns for the OL.
There's supposed to be a bump in the size of the cap as well this year
At least that’s what Blank intimated in the presser / radio interviews afterwards. So we’re prolly looking at 26 – 29 mill to play with before personnel moves to free up more.
I just heard...
Until we can officially make a switch the 3-4, the Falcons will implement an innovative 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 scheme.
GATA!
by Jman781 on Jan 17, 2012 3:36 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
LOL
….what if that worked?
Like, if they lined up 11 deep until just before the snap where they all scuttled into their respective positions. That would be intense.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Or a mirror defense
Defense lines up in the same formation a the offense
Oh that would be hilarious
Man, we need to be football coaches and try some of this stuff out.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
after all
that A-11 offense BS or whatever worked pretty well.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 17, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Where?
'There are two pains in life. There is the pain of discipline and the pain of disappointment. If you can handle the pain of discipline, then you'll never have to deal with the pain of disappointment,'- Nick Saban
High school.
A loophole in high school rules, if I recall correctly. Someone rode it to at least one state championship because of the loophole.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 18, 2012 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
No idea why people keep mentioning Bierrman
Dude has a high motor, but his tackling fundamentals are horrible. I’m sure Cliff Matthews can do the same job or better.
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We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
Now there's an interesting name
Matthews could be an amazing 3-4 OLB.
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He's a better fit for 3-4 OLB
The only question is how he does from an upright position.
We'll find out
They didn’t draft him, talk him up and bring him along this year to let him rot on the bench.
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Agreed
But he was also drafted to be a 4-3 DE, which he played at SC. But, he’s got the size and speed to play OLB very well. I’d love to see this attempted.
If they're swinging to a 3-4
I think it’s inevitable. I love his upside enough that I’d be willing to start trying it tomorrow.
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Sid and matthews off the edge
Would be very interesting
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Sid's the single biggest beneficiary of this
He’s seasoned, he’s growing into a player and he’s a natural in a 3-4.
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Still waiting to hear news you got by hired by AJC
Seriously bro, you post 3 or 4 times a day. I’ve been to SB nation sites where they posted once a week.
Great job, sir.
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We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
Thank you kindly, sir!
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Probaly means Abe is gone.
He left NY because he did not want to play in a 3-4. Not fast enough to handle coverage as a LB.
I love Abe
but just think of the money we could save….
Anyone know if....
Nolan still wears suits on the sidelines or was that only as a head coach? I love a coach in a suit, and glad we got this one instead of Del Rio. :)
by ChardeeMacDennis on Jan 17, 2012 3:41 PM EST reply actions
He would, unfortunately the NFL does not allow its coaches to wear suits or anything other than team-oriented attire. They used to have one day a year where they would let them wear a suit, but I don’t think they do that anymore.
He could wear a suit with a Falcons logo on the breast pocket
I’m sure that’s be ok…
I was trying to make a commical suggestion
obviously I failed
lame....
nothin’s classier than a coach wearing a suit.
It's Great! To be! A Tennessee Vol!
i think
if Nike can agree to make suits like reebok did in the 2007 year. Nolan and other coaches can continue wearing them at HOME games.
by brotherbrown on Jan 17, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
the good thing is...
mike nolan runs a 3-4 and a 4-3 so either way we are going to have a tougher defense…im stoked about it and love this move.
Well this is great news!
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by Duff_Man on Jan 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It wasn't a thread until Duff_Man delivered his measured understatement
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Sorry! I was mobile and at Happy Hour!
I can only type so much from the phone!
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No apologies
I meant that as a compliment.
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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Or his post
About the drunks getting into the fight, that left us all on pins and needles.
Whoops.
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I am SOOOOOOOOO...happy about this move!!
OMG!! Our defense just got godlike (or any other over exaggerated word you wish to use here)!!
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Possible NT option?
Paul Soliai free agent from Miami.
6-4 355 lbs 28 years old.
Former coached by one Mike Nolan.
He got paid 12 M in 2011
Not sure if Falcons wants to spend 12 M of the 24 M cap space on this guy.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I like the idea of having Soliai in the middle
with veterans Babs and Peters on the end. We can say bye bye or trade peria Jerry and/or Edwards for some playmakers/picks
He got the franchise tag last year.
Doesn’t the new agreement prevent franchising two years in a row?
Yes please
Very underrated NT.
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I like this hire alot
I think he will get the most out of our D. Aug needs to come now.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I want to see the draft and FA first.
I’m almost positive we trade atleast one veteran for draft picks.
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I think it will be more than that
With the possibility of losing Lofton, esp if we move to a 3-4. Weatherspoon and Dent would be perfect at ILB in a 3-4 system.
I also think Grimes walks.
Dent played through the transition to a 3-4 at Georgia
So he should be solid. Why is Lofton not a good fit? He’s perfectly capable of fending off the blocks of bigger offensive linemen. If you’re worried about anyone, it should be Spoon, who is athletic but nearly as capable of not getting washed out in the run game by offensive guards in his face. For a similar situation, see Bobby Carpenter with the Cowboys for that one.
by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not that Lofton isn't a good fit
It’s that he’s a FA and will likely command a big pay-day.
That said, I think they resign Lofton.
yup, i'm worried about spoon.
Seems like ilb is in the near future for him. Might be advantagous to let the rest of the D stay home while he roams, kind of a front 7 version of what the Steelers do with Troy. Could help with the transition if we just man him up on the best TE/RB.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He would excel in that type of coverage.
Plus looping him around the corner on LB stunts is still an option. I dont think that he will be handicapped anywhere in a 3-4.
Yeah idk how i skipped the draft
An thats my favorite part of the season. Now i gotta make another mock considering the 2 hires.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
My vote is for Turner
We could replace him with Darrell Scott from USF. 6’2" 240 4.46 40. Projeced in the 7th round.
Babineaux could be shown the door as well if we do go the 3-4 route
I think Babs would work as a 3-4 DE.
I believe he has the speed and would get upfield especially if the OLB distracts the tackle.
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Top FA DTs for 2012
Antonio Garay (SD)
Aubrayo Franklin (NO)
Sione Pouha (NYJ) – NT
Aubrayo Franklin could be a steal and wouldn’t cost much, I doubt Jets will let Sione Puha walk.
It's all about Process...
The difference between a 3-4 and 4-3 defense is way overblown.
Not to mention the variance in each category makes it basically meaningless. On the 3-4 side, you’ve got traditional 2-gap systems that prefer big nose tackles, while other “3-4” defenses like Dallas played Jay Ratcliff (sub 300 pounds) at the nose and employed one-gap tendencies.
A good coach should have preferences, but have the ability to be versatile. Look at BB in NE, everyone made so much over the world ending change to a 4-3 defense, and BB pointed out these are all media constructions. So do we need to revamp our defensive line to have two ends around 6-5 or 6-6, roughly 300 pounds, and a nose in the 350 pound range? No, but if we can pick up some different pieces, all the better for defending certain situations. Especially short yardage.
by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 3:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i think BB
Was grossly oversimplifing that.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
There are still 4 rushers on the majority of snaps
Whether one is called a defensive end or outside linebacker, whether a zone blitz features a dropping linebacker or defensive end, there isn’t much difference. The real differences are entirely independent of their base personnel as 4-3 or 3-4.
by TheAreopagite on Jan 18, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Does any team run a 3-4 on turt?
Cant think of any off the top of my head.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Idk let me rephrase that
Do any dome teams run a 3-4?
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Houston?
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 17, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah and look at them
3-4 in a dome is crazy. The speed of a 3-4 D on turf would be sick.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think they play on actual grass, though...
Still, I like the idea, as pierre02 indicates below, of a fast, blitzing 3-4. As a Dawg fan who has seen a shift from BVG’s scheme (literally) to a 3-4, I like the change…a lot.
GATA!
Yeah...
I’m an idiot. I forgot about Jerry World. I was thinking about the Old Cowboys Stadium…
Although, as with most domes, the roof is retractable.
How many true domes are left? I count four: N.O., Atlanta, Minny, and Detroit?
GATA!
Would only say 3,
Vikings roof is retractable ;) sort of, just need a lot of snow :O
by DanishFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Cardinals play 3-4 in a dome
On grass, planted on a sheet that rolls out into the sun so it won’t die.
by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
the roof is retractable.
Perilously close to a 2007 style depression.
by VaderX5 on Jan 18, 2012 12:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
NOLAN!!

“Hey BT, you alright buddy?”…“It’s gonna take months to get that smile off his face, I think he’s happy about the choice the Falcons made ahe!!”
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by Blood_Talon on Jan 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
what does the dude holding a joint...
look so much like Brooke Hogan?
And why is that dude holding a joint?
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Heh...that's a chick...it's a shot from "Archer".
A show on FX…very funny show!!
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Probably the most twisted show on TV
But undeniably funny.
Yah the new season isnt as funny tho
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Season premire is Thursday...did you download it??
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
No i was talking bout this past season
They got a season 3 coming up?
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yuuuuuuuuuuuup!!!
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Modern NFL defenses play lot of Nikel packages.
I just looked at the snap count notes i maintain for DB’s and LB’s. The falcons were in 4-2-5 about 45% of the time. The rest 55% of 4-3 or 3-4 can be hybrid.
It's all about Process...
Or you can run nickle packages like Dom Capers
With a 3-3-5 or 2-4-5, the latter of which I think is a lot of fun to play with.
by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
And all of them came from Florida Teams.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 17, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I second THAT emotion!!
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Did you actually look that up or just stumble accross that info...lol
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Too funny!!
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Maybe it will work
He has better stats at points in his career then his OC counterpart, but he is another guy that was about to hit the bricks. His lastest Miami D was virtually the same in points and yards given up as BVG’s Falcons, This will also be his 7th stint as a DC, the longest of which was four years (1st one) the shortest of which was 1 year (two of them), so he averages 2.3 years as a DC. Not too good.
How long do you think it will take to shift to the 3 4 which what he prefers?
To really make the switch...
Probably until 2013. I think they can run some 3-4 packages with current personnel IF they get a nose tackle.
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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Normally, a switch to 3-4 would take 2 to 3 years
Given the large number of Free agents we currently have on defense, that could potentially be shortened to 1 year, with 1 year in a hybrid system.
I have confidence in it
Spoon and Dent would be beasts and we’ve got good potential in our ends. I’ve never been high on Robert James and I’m indifferent on Adkins. The real question mark is on Spoon. As somebody mentioned earlier, he’s athletic enough, but I’m thinking he gets gobbled by opposing tackles. I hope I’m wrong.
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Correction, Lofton and Dent
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
Spoon "COULD" go OLB
Ala James Harrison, as DanishFalcons mentioned below. But, that’s a stretch – although ’Spoon does have the speed and coverage skills.
I'm actually thinking that's where I'd want him
I think they have to at least try.
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He'd have to add at least 30 pounds
But if he can do that and keep his quickness and speed…oh my.
by TheAreopagite on Jan 17, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Prefer spoon inside
Lofton is still suspect in coverage. I dont think Dent is that great either tho.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hard to say on Dent
But he did play in the 3-4 system at UGA.
I think both wouldn't be total disaster in coverage
And they better not be, because they won’t be immune to playing it.
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Interesting note on Dent from his days at Georgia...
Dent showed versatility as coaching changes shifted him from a 4-3 strong-side linebacker to an inside linebacker the 3-4 defense the Bulldogs employed in his senior season.
So he is versatile and has played in both a 4-3 and a 3-4 defense…
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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Love this,
Weatherspoon almost got same measureables as OLB Harrison(6’0", 242) from Steelers and spoon is 6’2", 244
That's a good comparison
But remember too that Harrison has always been considered an undersized overperformer. So, he’s not a good standard to compare against.
And Spoon
was just named to the Football Outsiders’ All-Pro Team. If he is, indeed, among the best, if not THE best OLB in the league right now, I guess we can take a shot at some Harrison comparisons.
DF posters unite!
Just gotta get DenverFalcon down here…
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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 5:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Supposedly he's sticking with the 4-3
But it’s gonna be a hybrid defense. Possibly using a year or two to transfer to a 3 – 4 of they want to go that direction. This should free us up to get a NT to prep or a free safety. Allowing us to also address getting linemen for offense.
Oh hell yeah!!
ATL is finally stepping up to the plate and hiring and OC and DC that can take the team to the next level.
Next season cannot get here soon enough!!
When I see this endorsement from you
I get the warm and fuzzies.
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HA!! You read my mind Dave...lol
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That's okay
I’d prefer this team earned more from you.
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Oh and THANK YOU ARTHUR BLANK!
Welcome to Atlanta coach Nolan. Should you guys pay off in a playoff win(s) you will be elevated to deity status post haste. We are hungry for winners.
Looking at his resume...
…the only thing that concerns me is how lengthy it is. He’s been the defensive coordinator for six (now seven) teams, but no one stint lasted longer than four years.
I’m not trying to be negative—he was successful with most of those teams, after all—but it’s a little strange. Anybody have a better sense than I do of what all the moving around is about?
McDaniels was one reason
- Denver: McDaniels was a mercurial jerk supposedly and Nolan’s a man
- Washington: Should I really have to comment
- Miami: was fixing to hire a new HC and Atlanta has a GREAT front office and is playoff ready
- San Fran: Just weren’t quite there yet and maybe he’s just a better coordinator than HC. No shame there. Look at what HIS defense is doing now though.
So I’m not worried about it.
To add to that
He left the Giants because they had one bad year under his tenure. I’m not sure he was fired, but that’s a concern point.
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what year was that? Pre Coughlin...cause they were a mess weren't they?
Coach and Front office wise?
I think so
Not solely on him, but it’s worth mentioning.
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Oh...
And he left the 2015 Doraville Falcons after three consecutive Super Bowl victories to become H.C.
Oh well.
GATA!
HA
Chances of being renamed to “Doraville” are the same chances I’m possessed by magical space monkeys that turn me into a super villain named Burf.
The name Burf
Reminds me of a beer and hotwing flavored burp at a sports bar
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 17, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
The 96 Giants
Were coached by Dan Reeves, his mentor.
And that D was 11th in DVOA when Nolan left. The 29th ranked Offense might have something to do with Reeves’ (and hence Nolan’s?) firing.
We could get Dontari Poe from Memphis to play NT
Height: 6-5. Weight: 350.
Projected 40 Time: 5.50.
Projected Round (2012): 2-3.
Poe totaled 33 tackles with eight tackles for a loss, one sack and one forced fumble. He did not play well against Mississippi State in the first game of the season and ended the year without a tackle for a loss in the last four games. Poe’s best game came against SMU when he registered a sack-fumble and three tackles.
Poe is a space eater who takes on multiple blocks. Even when his pad level is off, he is hard to move at the line of scrimmage. Poe should drop some weight to increase his agility so that he can make some plays that don’t go directly at him.
All information borrowed from Walter Football
Oh, and he'd give us so many great Poe jokes!
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I believe he's projected as a first-rounder, though.
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Well that's not cool
walterfootball has him as 2nd o 3rd. Butnothing s final until draft day
Strollin' with Nolan
I’m glad to see him join the staff and am really looking forward to seeing our defense be a lot trickier and tougher to play against in 2012.
by Thrashy Thrashy on Jan 17, 2012 4:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Just searched the 3-4 teams on nfl.com
the tendency I found was that the heavier up front the smaller OLB
The 3-4 tex and cowboys run had the heaviest OLB from 260 to williams at 278
a team like SD got all starting OLB (the 3 they rotated most at 250, 250 and 251, were shaun phillips (a beast) was at 250 and 6’3", but they got some NT at 340/330 and DE’s around 300
so I definitely think it’s possible if we just get a NT, and the DT we have can play DE’s Jerry, Peters, Babs got the size, not sure if Walker is quick enough
Welcome aboard!
I’m extremely pleased with our new coaching staff. Happy to have Nolan here as DC, and as one post above mentioned…Next season can’t come soon enough. I’m eager to see what his plans are with the D, whether it’s converting to a 3-4 or Hybrid. How and what will do during free agency to add missing components to the D, and who will be drafting. Very busy, and exciting off season in Atlanta!
Coaching wins championships!
Exciting hire!
Crazy day for Falcons news…
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Yep...
now we just need Nicks to sign onto our OL!!!
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Good Hire. I'm jazzed about Nolan.
About three years ago, Coach Smith talked about employing elemets of the 3-4, but I don’t remember seeing any. Unless it was the three-man rush when we needed to give up a third-an-long.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!
It won't take much to successfully switch to a 3-4
- Acquire a true 3-4 OLB and convert Biermann and Sidbury to outside linebackers.
- Acquire a true nose tackle (could be the most challenging task). Convert Peters and Babineaux to 3-4 defensive ends.
- Keep Edwards where he is, a bigger 4-3 defensive end could make a suitable 3-4 end.
- Have Weatherspoon and Lofton as your two inside backers.
No to Biermann
And Spoon would get destroyed by guards on the inside.
Mathews could fill Biermanns void.
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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 5:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Watch Jarrett Johnson and Paul Kruger of the Ravens this weekend
Not much seperates them two from Kroy Biermmann…talent wise, physically, or size… They are fine in a base 3-4. Spoon is actually bigger than Lofton at 6’2’’ 245, while Lofton is 6’0 240, so really they’re both too small so I don’t know. Lofton is due up to become a free agent, Spoon could bulk up a little, you never know…
by mr92687!!! on Jan 17, 2012 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I Think
If we put spoon and Lofton in the middle no one can touch our ilbs in the 3-4 then, commona spoon and lofton flying around making plays stunts on blitzs oh man im fired up for this seasona already, plus with babs and peters not only aere they good at stopping the run but they can generate pressure from that end spot
One thing I do know is, we've drafted pure 4-3 guys for the last 3 years.
Most of which have never played a 3-4.
by mr92687!!! on Jan 17, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why i think
theyll use a hybrid and bring them along slowely so next yr we can full out use it
Im sure they both can tackle much better than Biermann.
If you want steady whiffs on opponents, then Biermann is your guy.
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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So you missed every game
Dude whiffed on QB’s like it was his job. Not to mention he’s a liability in the run game.
There’s better options out there.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
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by DopeFalcons on Jan 17, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
except they're using DOL as the source
I’ll wait until somebody with more knowledge says it’s so.
by drmondo667 on Jan 17, 2012 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
just 290
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 17, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
GREAT hire...
I am really, really excited to see this team with Nolan running the D. As long as our no-name OC can prove himself decently competent and keep teams from just pounding the rock on us, Nolan’s blitzing schemes should have a huge huge impact on how we play in big games
by throw it down the fugging field matt on Jan 17, 2012 5:27 PM EST reply actions
I think our OC's job will be
to diagram the plays, expand the no-huddle calls and let MR effectively be the OC on the field. That’s why I was more nervous about our DC hire.
For those who think this means
walking papers for Abraham, lets keep in mind some of his most productive years were spent as OLB in a 3-4 scheme with the Jets. This scheme move actually may prolong Abe’s career. Edwards is NOT a 3-4 DE IMO but then again Smitty actually had Biermann line up as a 3-4 DE on some downs in the past. I thought that was a ridiculous move and I lost a little respect for Smitty as a coach when he thought a 260lb man could play that position. It’s gonna be a hybrid scheme at best for the first year, no way they just go full 3-4 right out of the gate. THE main piece is the 6’3 340lb pot bellied pig in the middle and you don’t just turn a guy into this, this is born and bred specifically for the purpose. Sidbury should excel in this 3-4 hybrid scheme not so sure about Biermann though he may still get his walking papers. I like Biermann as a rotational guy but a new contract means a pay raise and we can get what Biermann provides without having to commit to a 3 or 4 year contract extension. (Matthews)
Exactly. Contrary to what some folks have posted
Abe was pretty good as a 3-4 LB. He even made pro bowl
that's incorrect
2005 Jets (HC Herm Edwards) were a still 4-3 team. They transitioned to a 3-4 in 2006 (still primarily 4-3) and 2007 after they hired Eric Mangini.
Abe came to ATL in 2006 – best I can tell, he’s never played OLB in a 3-4.
Actually, that’s not right either… Looks like the 2000 NYJ played a 3-4 (under DC Mike Nolan!). That was Abe’s Rookie year. He played in 6 Games (0 starts) and had 4.5 Sacks. Al Groh was run out of town after only 1 season as HC (they were 9-7; does anybody remember why everybody was fired?), and Herm was there in 2001, running a 4-3.
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Thank you sir
I was pretty certain that Abe did not do well as OLB in a 3-4, and that was the primary reason we were able to snag him.
This is amazing because
with a 3-4 package the nfcs teams wont have much tape on us so our should be steller this year, im sure well use 4-3 its gonna be a nice mix of both, i think nolan can do grea things with the talent on our defense im really excited for this
Jim Caldwell for QB coach?????
Would that be a good hire ?
really hope Spags dosent go to the saints...
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 17, 2012 6:14 PM EST reply actions
It's sounding like it might happen
Apparently, Spags interviewed with the new GM and Caldwell yesterday. Very interesting timing that Caldwell is let go today. I’d bet that the Colts make Spags the HC.
Which...
If it happened, would make the Nolan hire even more impressive, for we’d be getting, in my opinion, the best D.C. on the market.
GATA!
I think we got a great DC regardless
Even if Spags ends up in NO as DC, it’s not as if Atlanta got sloppy seconds.
Personally...
I wanted Nolan more.
I’m merely saying that if Spags is considering H.C. options, it’s no contest we got the best, which speaks volumes to the quality of our franchise right now. Top candidates want to come even if there’s potentially heat under the coach’s rear. Why? We have a ton of talent, a committed owner, and great fans.
GATA!
Was kinda hoping for Spags
But I guess I’m good with the Nolan pick. I’m certainly happier with this than our OC selection…
Saints are gonna suck next year.
They are gonna be cash strapped. Brees, Colston and like 20 other FAs to deal with and little salary cap to boot.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Jan 17, 2012 6:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
It's the way they build their team
they aquire a lot of talent through trades and FA and then part ways after maybe 2 contracts, I wouldn’t put money on them sucking next year.
Jason La Canfora
Is all but saying that Nicks will not be a Saint next year. I’d be surprised if we didn’t make a hard run at him.
Yeah if they want to keep ol Breesy
They won’t be able to sign Nicks.
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 7:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah - way too much money
From what I read, it’s Brees, Coulston and Nicks on the block. Brees will easily count around 15 mil towards the cap. From there, it becomes almost impossible to get both Nicks and Coulston.
I do hope the FO is targeting Nicks. I would think they are, given they have seen him twice a year for the past few years.
I'm Back
Not flipping out this time though. I love BOTH picks for coordinators. Especially Nolan. If he decides to change our D to a 3-4 then there is definetly going to be a hybrid season. A 3-4 is something most other teams in our division are not currently playing. I read an article on it and it does seem that being the odd man out isn’t exactly a bad thing. Also using the screen on offense more this season should be a perfect fit for Julios catch and run style. Along with taking heat off of Matt Ryan and Turner. Both coordinators are set up for success and the one that has the most work in front of him is known for bringing good defenses into the great catagory. Very excited for next season.
by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 17, 2012 7:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
There are concerns over going to a 3-4
Guys, honestly, we could switch a 3-4 and have girl scouts playing at both safety positions and it would still be better than BVG’s best game.
Cant wait to hear audible "Thin mints" lmao
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 7:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I want to try that
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by Dave Choate on Jan 17, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
If we want a rookie NT
Look up this dude named Alameda Ta’amu from the university of Washington
by GTbacker on Jan 17, 2012 7:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wonder if they draft a NT will they cut Jerry?
by pierre02 on Jan 17, 2012 7:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Makes complete and financial sense to do so
by GTbacker on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Possibly try to trade
But given his lack of performance, he will probably just be cut. That is assuming they’re planning on moving to a 3-4, which is not necessarily a given.
Now if we can get
Good QB and Oline coaching in here. Can’t forget about the importance of the two.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
Also
Blank doesn’t f*** around. We’re looking at four new coaches.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
What about Boise states oline coach
by GTbacker on Jan 17, 2012 7:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Very good idea
They were one of the absolute best lines this year – in both running and passing games.
Don't they run a zone blocking scheme?
Not sure how big of a deal it would be to switch schemes, or if there’s an entirely different set of criteria for players in that scheme. Anyways, why would he leave a contending team for the same position on another?
JP was one of the least rpoductive people on our line.
Cut him bring in a big defensive lineman with one of our few picks. The way the front office has been acting with all of the hiring and firing they seem to be confident in our offense and are now looking to boost our defense. They have done a good job so far. I have faith they can follow through. Plus its our head coaches mentality.
by CombatFalcoholic on Jan 17, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions
Happy with this one.
NIce to get a solid DC. As wide open as the NFCS has been getting a good DC is necessity.
Very true
We’ve got two offensively minded teams in the Panthers and Saints that we have to play twice a year. If the Panthers can get some of their guys healthy, they’re going to make a nice jump. I think the Bucs are in for a rebuilding year. And we all know how the Saints are about scoring.
Like the Pick
I do not think he will change much on our base defense still solely 4-3, however I do believe he will be bring a wider variety of packages and personnel in nickel and dime situations that our team desperately needs. He likes to bring pressure and put his players in winning positions and I’m not entirely sure but of the teams in his past named they were also all very sure tackling teams, i hope that catches on here in Atlanta.
by dirtybirdsrolltide on Jan 17, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions
3-4 what to expect
resign kroy biermann and move him to olb, ask john abraham to play olb. if not sign an expierenced 3-4 olb. keep ray edwards at de hes big enough to hold his own, move peters to de, and finnally draft a 3 techinque nt to plug the middle
by R.I.P Bobby Cox on Jan 17, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions
I wanted Spags, and I'm guessing this means
N.O. got Spags. I’ve always seen the 4-3 as a more effective pass defense, and the 3-4 as more effective against the run. I’m excited that Nolan and Smitty worked in Baltimore together and that he will ask him to implement Baltimore’s 4-3 hybrid with NT type tackles.
Not necessarily on Spags
There’s a possibility he’s looking at a HC position at Indy, which would definitely interest him more. Also, Andy Reid just got back from vacation, so it’s possible that Spags will still interview with the Iggles.
New Orleans is supposedly interviewing him tomorrow
But Indy could offer him a HC job with Caldwell being fired.
There’s no way we transform to a 3-4 this year, but like most have said we could run some hybrid packages in certain situations.
Spoon could still be an effective OLB, with his speed and strength, and move to ILB on passing downs, with Biermann and Sid moving to OLB. There’s a lot that could be done, but base package will remain a 4-3.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Succesful 3-4, 4-3 hybrids are just amazing when they work
Oakland in the tuck rule year, their D was just unstoppable on that 3-4 4-3 switch. If we can run it well I’d love it. If he’s blitz happy I’m assuming we’re not going to see too much soft zone, so hey, at least that’s a n improvement regardless. Pumped about this.
by Turner_The_Burner on Jan 17, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions
Lulz

Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 17, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
With Ray on the team
it’d be pretty awesome if he could get hot and rack up a crazy number of qb sacks, if only for the opportunity for the chant “Ray’s gonna kill ya! Ray’s gonna kill ya!”
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My 2012 fantasy Falcons starting Defense if we switch to 34...
DE – Jonathan Babineaux 6’2"/296 lbs.
NT – Paul Soliai (UFA from Miami) 6’5"/355 lbs.
DE – Corey Peters 6’3"/295 lbs.
OLB – Robert Mathis (UFA from Indianapolis) 6’2"/245 lbs.
ILB – Curtis Lofton 6’0"/242 lbs.
ILB – Sean Weatherspoon 6’1"/239 lbs.
OLB – L. Sidbury/K. Biermann
CB – Tracy Porter (UFA from New Orleans) 5’11"/186 lbs.
FS – Michael Griffin (UFA from Tennessee) 6’0’’/202 lbs.
SS – William Moore 6’0’’/218 lbs.
CB – Dominique Franks 5’11’’/194 lbs.
Reserves
CB – Chris Owens (has good potential)
CB – Dunta Robinson (will probably get cut)
CB – Darrin Walls (for depth)
DE – John Abraham (probably doesn’t get resigned)
DE – Ray Edwards (??? Can u say trade block)
DT – Peria Jerry (good for depth; maybe trade bait since he’s getting paid so much money)
DT – Vance Walker
LB – Spencer Adkins
LB – Akeem Dent
S – Shan Schillinger
Now I don’t know if we’re have enough cap space to make this lineup come to fruition but its wishful thinking.
Robert Mathis is a pass rushing specialist
Tracy Porter is pretty decent cover corner and nice replacement for Brent Grimes
Michael Griffin is a ball hawking safety
What do u think??
Hate to say it
but I don’t think we will be spending any big money on defense this year. Unless Nolan really really wants someone. Money will be spent on the O line, and drafting any guys we lose or trade away.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Line up
Base
DL – Edwards, Peters, Babs, Sid
LB – Spoon, Lofton, Nicholas
CB – Dunta, Decoud, Moore, Franks
Nickel
LB – Spoon, Lofton
CB – Dunta, Decoud, Moore, Franks/Heydon (if resigned), Frank/Owens (if Heydon not resigned)
3-4
DL – Edwards/Peters, Babs/Walker, Peters/Babs
LB – Biermann/Spoon, Spoon/Dent/Nicholas, Lofton, Sid
CB – Dunta, Decoud, Moore, Franks
So yes, Jerry is cut, Abe and Grimes are not resigned. Matthews moves into the rotation, Heydon resigned, or Walls gets promoted to #4 CB.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
I feel u, but...
Dunta Robinson couldn’t cover my 80 yr. old grandmother, I hope they cut him or trade him. And DeCoud turned into a matador when Brandon Jacobs was running towards him. We can’t have that. We need a little more toughness in the secondary. Robinson can give that, but he just can’t cover. So maybe he should be a safety.
Interesting idea
but i think the consensus is Dunta was just a bad fit for a soft cover 2 zone scheme. Cover 2 only works well when you have an effective pass rush. Even Asomogha struggled in a zone, and the Eagles had a nasty D line.
A switch to press coverage would benefit Dunta, I think Nolan will like him and he stays at least another year.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 17, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wrong about DR
he is a press DB, not zone. Also Porter is not that good a DB. He was supported by Williams blitz schemes and would not be better than DR or BG in zone coverage.
Peters nor Babs would be a better DE than RE, in a 4-3 or 3-4.
DeCoud played better than Griffin this season. Griffin was pain $3.3 million for this past season while DeCoud made $550,000. Griffin would be more expensive and not an upgrade.
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These two coordinators...
…versus our previous one’s would have gotten us two more wins this year, if not also a playoff win. Liking them both.
Whoohoo!
I hated the wimpy zone we used to play and I think my prayers have been answered. Yes I pray about football at times :)
by Tsynr on Jan 17, 2012 10:51 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Solid
hire, I can only hope there is a change in attitude as well to go along with what schemes are brought in with the new coaches. The squad this year seemed to lose confidence as the game went into the second half too many times. Missed tackles and blown assignments you can record and see, but confidence that you will win and that your coaches will put you in the best position to win plays a big role. Haven’t been this excited about defense since Glanville was running the D(with that guy you never knew what he’d throw at you, but it was fun to watch)
Great Pick for DC
I could post his stats to back it up…. but no need…. he has improved every team he has coached….
We need better players to go with that DC!
He can get the job done WAY better than the guy he is replacing but we need better talent also, if we don’t get superior players over the ones on the field now, it won’t matter who the coaches are. Personally I think Smith should have been fired as well.

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