Patriots-Broncos Playoff Open Thread
by Dave Choate on Jan 14, 2012 8:00 PM EST
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PrintLess thrilling than Niners-Saints for the average Falcons fan, but still could be a good game.
In one corner, you have the high-powered Patriots offense, led by Tom Brady and the incredible Rob Gronkowski. They pair that offense with one of the worst pass defenses in NFL history, and a run defense that's only marginally better.
In the other corner, Tim Tebow and his weird powers of winning. The Broncos run well and can get after the passer, but on paper this should be a game the Patriots win easily.
Root for who you will.
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The Saints make me never want to watch football ever again.
No words can describe my feelings, currently.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions
Also, glad the 49ers made me eat that statement.
Also, lively thread in here. Also, go Tebows.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Woooooo Hoooooooo!
I’m loving me some 49ers right now!!!
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 8:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
First Tebow now the 49ers
you can scrip October January
by brotherbrown on Jan 14, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm ecstatic!!!!
Since our beloved birds are no longer in the hunt for the SB this year, I am officially pulling for The 49ers to win it all. I guess they stole my heart by stomping all over Drew Brees’s heart. You got to love that!!!!
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 8:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They had me at the 2 seed!
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
By the way,
Go Broncos! Tom Brady and the Patriots have had their fair share of playoff success. Quite frankly, I’m tired of seeing or hearing about them.
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 8:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Happiness......!
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
I'm calling it
The Tebow train absolutely ends here
"My parents do a lot of things behind the scenes that go unnoticed"- Cam Newton, Heisman acceptance speech.
http://twitter.com/#!/AShirkey
by TurnerTheBurner on Jan 14, 2012 8:22 PM EST reply actions
Yes jesus can't watch tonight
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
No
Katrina rules in SF.
by Humphry, Nobis, Tilliman, Zook on Jan 14, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't watch last week. Did Pitt play man or zone vs Broncos?
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
I think man...
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
7-8 in the box most of game
Mixture of zone and man
by Grey Rider on Jan 14, 2012 8:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
First time ever wanting Brady to win?
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Not the first, but one of very very few
And I like Brady. Just can’t stand anything else about that team
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 8:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
P. S.
I’m at the grand opening for my friends bar in a tiny little redneck town. Think I’m the only non gator/tebow fan here. This should be fun :)
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously...careful dude
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
About half the people here are friends.
Still keeping a low profile
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 8:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Officially no dog in this now
Just going to sit back and watch.
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Dave, what state do you live in?
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Maryland.
You didn’t know Dave was Steve Hauschka?
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 8:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait.
Your joking right? What part of MD Dave?
by dirtybird in ak on Jan 15, 2012 3:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Especially with Bill Belichik
He probably put cameras in Mile High
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
I just thought of something....
Greg Williams is expected to leave NO for St. Louis, right? That means Atlanta and NO are both now searching for a new D Coordinator. That’s not good. They may swoop in and steal our man!!!!
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
We are birds, we swoop in.
Lolsicles.
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
As of now Greg Williams is still there
and unless we’re waiting on somebody still in the hunt we deserve to lose out on somebody. There’s no reason to wait.
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
good point, I will be horrified if Saints were able to steal spagnulo from us
If Halladay, Lee, and Hamels all break their arms while playing tag in the clubhouse, We'll be set
by suicide bunting is a sin on Jan 14, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
He is good friends with Jeff Fisher I think
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
by BravesDawg16 on Jan 14, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
If MM can get a HC job Williams has to be considered somewhere
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
He is supposed to be going to Stl
And Del Rio should be taking his place in NO.
by pierre02 on Jan 14, 2012 11:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
These games...it's like watching the AFL (American Football League)
not even a hint of defense but….better players.
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
not the 9er game...
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Saints fan here
Now how much fun was it to see us lose in such heartbreaking fashion?
We gave you a good show didn’t we?
Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!
Hahaha, come on
this was a good chance to rub it in!
Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!
by Stilljreming on Jan 14, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
You swept us. We don't have the right to rub anything in.
I was pulling for the 49ers but for completely non hate related reasons. And it was one hell of a finish.
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub..........
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just kidding...
We’ve both been “one and done” in the playoffs the past two years. Neither team has grounds to be happy.
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agree with FLA_Falcon you guys swept us
and nobody likes somebody rubbing it in after a loss.
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice.
by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Well now we're all in the same boat, waiting for the draft! sigh...
Expect more...you'll get more...and if you don't, start over!
by Stilljreming on Jan 14, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
We're waiting for a new OC and DC..
a little excitement before the draft.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 14, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Quite...
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
by InMattWeTrust on Jan 14, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Told you guys that they were obsessed with us
over here after a loss to see if we act like they do.
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 14, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
here, here sir.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 14, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
or maybe "hear, hear"..
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 14, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
18 point comeback
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure everyone will hang Tebow for this, but...
Tough to win when your defense gives up 14 points/quarter.
by cheshire falcon on Jan 14, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions
and when your backs drop open passes.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Love watching sports with one of my good friends
but man, some of the stuff he says about Tebow makes me hate the Patriots. And I have a lot of respect for Brady.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:42 PM EST reply actions
He is a Pats fan, btw.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
No but I do wonder if Tebow nailed my friend's girl, or something.
The hate on Tebow is sickening to me.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
It is frustrating
The love he gets for how awful he plays the position, but some people hate on him way to much.
Awful or not, he makes all the statheads angry because he defies them.
Because for a while there all he did was win, and wins are the only thing that matters.
People are obsessed with numbers.
They just need to leave the poor kid alone.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
He's been winning with D
Kinda like Trent Dilfer…
I do like the fact that he is proving my buddy wrong. The Tebow offense, ie: read and speed options is what I wanted us to try when we had that one guy. My buddy said the option will never work in the NFL. He thinks he knows everything about football. It is nice to see him eat some humble pie 10 years later lol
by FLA_Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Amen brother
The Tebow hate is ridiculous. I’ve asked a couple of people specifically what they hate about him, and at the end of our conversation, they always realize what they hate is the media coverage of Tebow, not Tebow himself.
If you actually hate Tim Tebow, you either haven’t thought it through or you’re a douchebag
by cheshire falcon on Jan 14, 2012 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
haha, good point
I did hate him when he was at UF, but it was more because i just hate UF.
by cheshire falcon on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Hated Tebow the Gator
but he’s not a Gator anymore. I don’t hold grudges once they go pro.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
The hilarious part is the religion
I’m not here to debate religion, but when your hate statement is “Screw you Tebow, and you too God for not helping the starved African children and helping Tebow instead” there’s an issue I take personally with that.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Plus, the blame for their starvation can be found elsewhere...
Generally, it’s the fault of the local puppet regimes that sneak the region’s natural resources and economic wealth through the back door.
That and
living conditions in Africa are bad, bad, bad anyway.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
No but it's not magic
people who don’t understand the Christian religion don’t understand that God doesn’t perform magic. He won’t snap his fingers and make everything sunshine and rainbows. It doesn’t work that way, which is why even us blessed Americans still have it rough sometimes. That’s the key. You can’t hate on something without an understanding of it, else that makes you an ignorant hater, the worst kind.
But you are right, corrupt bigwigs and horrid governments make things a hell of a lot harder to fix, especially in the poorer countries.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
exploits our more unimaginative rational side
Personally, I don’t prefer to translate the entire realm of existence into mathematics. The scope of possibility is greatly narrowed.
Agreed.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Also, within the bounds of determinism, free will can still be
Man has been given the chance to do what he will with the world. I think lessons will be learned whatever the outcome.
He's a Gator
thats why I dont like him but want the Broncos to win
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I don't hate Tebow
I hate Tebow fans. Which is I like seeing Tebow struggle-they squirm in their seats and try so hard to pretend like it’s anything but Tebow.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
to be fair
in this game, it’s really not all on him.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
No
I missed it, is Von Miller out, or is he playing? He was such a beast for a while, but if he’s there tonight, he’s been invisible.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
He's been hurt for the latter part of the season
broken hand or something like that. I recall Nantz mentioning his name with some kind of injury in the first quarter, but I don’t know for sure.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Been playing with a club on his hand
really affect a pass rusher
They were never going to have a chance in this one
Without both him and Elvis Dumervil playing awesome and putting a ton of pressure on Brady.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
True but he sure hasn't helped
Ugly throws plus after that fumble they were done
Yeah, me too
It was such a delicate line to dance on in order to defend Mike Vick for what was really beyond his control without becoming a Mike Vick apologist. There were two sides to those debates that were very extreme and lacking any perspective.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Except Tebow is religious
and religion in debates is the worst kind of thing to bring into a debate.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, the Patriots are having their way with Denver
The addition of Josh McDaniels as an offensive assistant during the playoffs appears to be helping NE.
by wparker82 on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This DEN defense
has been overrated for the past 2 months
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Nah, I think it's been legit
Von Miller is a grown ass man, but he’s been hurt and his replacement has not played to his level.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
And Dumerville is also hurt
Give Brady time and he will shred any defense
To me it seems
they’ve played some questionable offenses and when they did play a good one, they were beaten soundly
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
They didn't lose last week
PIT’s O isn’t that bad, methinks
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
If Ben was healthy
PIT would’ve won, IMO
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming Baltimore wins tomorrow...
Who do you like in a Baltimore/NE matchup?
I think I like Baltimore… they are exactly the kind of team NE does not want to play
by cheshire falcon on Jan 14, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions
If Houston somehow wins
Brady could face Tebow, TJ Yates, and Alex Smith in one post season. Doubt it happens but that would be pretty unbelievable
So, uh....
Anyone got a wishlist for that second round draft pick?
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Lamer Miller
But doubt he falls anywhere near us
I'm hardly following anything
I’m guess Glenn, the OG from Georgia, isn’t going to fall to us?
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Some have Ben Jones, C
others have the TE from Stanford
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Ben Jones is great....
but is he projected that high?
NFL Draft Scout
has him as the 2nd rated center and projected in the 2-3 round
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
He'll be picked high 2nd round.
Late 2nd pick is a long way for #2 center to fall.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on what happens on draft day, though
Sometimes the second best center is only the 60th best talent, or so. This draft looks really stocked with defensive players. Probably going to see a ton of CBs and DEs go in the first round.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Haven't followed to closely
But from what I’ve seen of Miller he is great and very very fast. Glenn is going first round I think
Hmmm
For a Falcons roster that doesn’t have a ton of holes, I have a very long wishlist. Need to try to improve our pass rush, maybe up the middle. Fletcher Cox is another guy I like, but he’s probably a first rounder too.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Who would you rather have?
Gronkowski or Graham?
Graham
But I feel both guys benefit a lot from their respective QBs. They’d be great TEs anywhere, but they look like the best two in the league because their quarterbacks are awesome and use them well.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
VERNON DAVIS!!!!
Honestly it might be VD, give him Brady or Brees and he is putting up the same numbers. Plus he might be the best blocker of the 3(Gronk is a great blocker to)
Ferrari or Porsche?
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
I was glad to have...
Gronkowski on my champion fantasy team this year…I love TG but we really need a one of those monsters w/ speed
Gronk, more durable.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 14, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yikes
This is getting ugly
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Has anyone noticed
that Tom Brady is freaking ridiculously good!
So much so.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 14, 2012 10:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love Tebow
but his pumpkin just pulled up outside Gillette stadium
Hey, uhm...announcer guys
Part of the reason those teams allow the most pass yards in the game is because those teams get up early and score a ton of points. If you look at adjusted ranks, teams like New England and Green Bay aren’t great, but they’re not the worst in the league.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
lol your signature
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
If Denver is really unhappy with Tebow
Jacksonville should really trade for him to help restore energy in that franchise.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
It'd be hilarious and sad if they were unhappy with him.
The crowd was chanting for him.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
John Elway was just beginning to have faith in him
Not sure what this debacle will do for that.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
We don't have to continue to settle Atlanta. We're better than that.
by DopeFalcons on Jan 14, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Tebow is struggling
but this is team failure.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
It's a good thing they intercepted Brady
To keep his passer rating below that 158.3 mark.
Braves will be fine. I'm not worried.
by Bronn on Sep 18, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
Tebow is a good dude. Don't like to see him do poorly, but my goodness his fans...
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Patriots D line has been pushing Denver around like Lego pieces
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
I root for Tebow just because so many people say he can't be successful
But I can’t imagine that Denver doesn’t bring in a quality veteran to challenge him next year. He either has to show insanely improved passing skills in training camp, or he is going to be replaced.
which is sad
because Denver stuck with Elway for years before he finally delivered. Loyalty in sports isn’t what it used to be.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Thing is
Every player on their roster knows that if they get down by 3 scores, they simply can’t catch up.
Perhaps
but there aren’t many teams that can come back from that deficit, including our own Falcons.
17 is much easier to overcome than 21, but my case stands.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 14, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
that's how you do a sneak
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
49ers game was the tits.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Jan 14, 2012 11:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Did you think Alex Smith could have taken a knee at the 1 instead of taking it in for the TD? Probably could have run out a large part of the remaining clock and still have a chance to score the TD. Oh well, one of those plays that are extremely hard to do. Incredibly, it didn’t matter lol
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
You gotta take the points
So many things can go wrong if you don’t
FG was still on the table if not the TD, with the possibility of running out the clock to about :30 if the 3 running plays at the goal line don't get it in. They were only down by 1 at the time.
That would leave the Saints with the challenge of going 60-70 yds in about a half minute, which they could do of course.
Anyway, interesting scenario to think about.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Are they even blocking?
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions
Ryan Clady is so wasted blocking for a left handed QB
They should trade him to us for Baker straight up =D
Gronk is a robot
Any and all new Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer factoids must be approved by Ivan Johnson
by a hooter's baby on Jan 14, 2012 11:28 PM EST reply actions
yup. for a millisecond i forgot who won the game
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
Gronk will beat Gonzo's records...
Don't bother hanging yourself or shooting yourself, just watch Atlanta sports.
Maybe not
lot of TEs don’t last that long.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 15, 2012 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Brady and Gronkowski are the reason I won FF this year.
Beasts I tell you.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Jan 14, 2012 11:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
On A different note
I read on NFL.com that the Falcons asked permission to interview Clements and Koeter. Clements, sure, but Koeter, please no. That would be MM all over again. If he’s the hire, Mike Smith should be f-ing fired immediately for refusing to let go of his uber-conservative scheming. Ughhhhh
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