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Angry Birds: A Quick Look At The Tuesday Press Conference

Yesterday, Mike Smith, Arthur Blank and Thomas Dimitroff sat down at a table and answered questions for about an hour. While several of the questions were incisive, I came away not thinking so much about the answers as the overall mood.

As someone said to me yesterday, the atmosphere in that press conference was the kind you'd expect to see after a team went 4-12. Mike Smith was angry. Thomas Dimitroff was as calm as ever, but forceful in his answers. And Arthur Blank was brutally honest, sometimes to a surprising degree. The message was unmistakable, and perfectly encapsulated by Blank himself.

"Good is sometimes the enemy of great, and we have to become great."

Can you think of a better way to sum up this season? These Falcons were too content to be good, to beat worse teams and fail against better ones, to make a handful of brilliant plays and match them with missed tackles, missed blocks and turnovers. The trio threw around words like inconsistent and obliquely criticized the team for a lack of passion. They did this to indicate that changes to the roster are coming, and that 10-6 and being bounced in the playoffs is no longer even remotely tolerable.

There's something remarkable here. Four years ago, Blank, Dimitroff and Smith would be delighted with a 10-6 season and so would the fans. But expectations have been raised to the point where a winning season isn't something to celebrate. It's something you call a gloomy press conference to address. That's a remarkable transformation, and it's really encouraging as a fan to know that there's no denial in the men who lead this team.

The upshot? There will be a lot of new blood in Flowery Branch this summer. Two new coordinators, multiple new players and perhaps a new-look offense and defense altogether means the Atlanta Falcons of the last four years are being bludgeoned with a shovel and left for dead. I'm no oracle, so I can't tell you what the Falcons will look like after all is said and done. They will be different, though, and that's what we've all wanted to hear for a while now.

After the jump, a few interesting bullets. Give it a watch and discuss amongst yourselves, especially if I missed something you think is important.

Star-divide

  • Blank gave Dimitroff and Smith a big vote of confidence, albeit one with a caveat. He said he believes the two are the right choice to take the team to the next level, but that you cannot let loyalty override performance. As Jeff Schultz noted in a great column at the AJC, Smith is the next domino to fall if things go poorly.

    What do I take away from that? These two probably have one re-loading year and one year to bring home multiple playoff wins and a title, because Blank is a reasonably patient guy. If they don't get it done, you'll see a new tandem in 2014.
  • There are veterans in trouble here, though in true Falcon style, none were named. A lot of people are speculating that Dunta Robinson and his roster bonus will be playing elsewhere in 2012, something I'm not totally sold on but could definitely believe. Underachievers won't survive the roster purge.

    No sacred cows, as Dimitroff struggled to put it.
  • Mike Smith singled out Matt Ryan, Sean Weatherspoon, Eric Weems and Matt Bosher as his MVPs. The only surprise on this list is Weems, who I would have thought would not be returning in 2012. Kevin Cone has infinitely more upside.
  • Dimitroff spoke of taking advantage of opportunities. The Falcons juuuust missed a lot of interceptions, tackles, sacks, and blocks in 2011, and the tolerance level for that amongst the staff is obviously going to be very low this season. That's the good news.
  • Arthur Blank is legitimately angry, and as I noted, astonishingly blunt. A couple of times he followed Smith or Dimitroff and took their usual roundabout comments to another level, including a direct criticism of the offensive line. It was refreshing to hear, but I can't imagine every player's going to feel the same way.
  • Amid votes of confidence for Matt Ryan and Julio Jones, Michael Turner got some extremely indirect, extremely light criticism. Smith spoke of how Turner did a good job but didn't do everything he needed to do at the end of the season, quickly pointing out the injury.

    Smith did say that Turner's role will change, which was music to my ears. Running him 250-300 times in the way Mularkey did is not going to produce the results the Falcons need on a consistent basis. Time for a change.
  • Only about half of the Falcons' free agents are priorities, according to Dimitroff. I'll take my own crack at guessing which ones they are in the weeks ahead, but you're welcome to start us off now. Go for it.

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Bam, first first ever.

I imagine Lofton and Grimes are the main 2 big contracts we’ll sign. Maybe if we want Abraham for a little longer we’ll put a tenure on him. We may just franchise Lofton altogether.
The rest are anyones guess. DeCoud or Sanders, maybe DeCoud only because he’s younger.

Ultimately, it’s good to see that Mr. Blank and the Falcons organization wont settle for less.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 8:10 AM EST reply actions  

Congrats on the FIRST.

Now you never have to do it again.

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Jan 12, 2012 9:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm going to let the "first" pass this time, because your name is dude-bro

But yeah, be aware that it’s something we never do here.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

But yeah, to your point

I think they’ll go hard after two of the trio of Lofton, Grimes and Abe. My guess would be Lofton and Abe.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

for the complement on the name man bro Dave.

Abe as we all know is getting old, so I don’t see him getting any more than a 2 year contract at best. Grimes I think has at least 4 good years left in the tank, and he’s been the most constant CB we’ve had in a long time. I’m sure TD loves him, actually Grimes is a lot like Asante Samuel who TD drafted with the Pats. So based on youth and production, Grimes and Lofton are the way to go. Maybe a 4 year contract for Grimes and a franchise tag on Lofton.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Not totally sold on Grimes

Never have been. He’s a tremendous athlete, to be sure, and our best corner, but the fact is that he’s just too small to deal with the modern receiver, much less the modern tight end. The bigger guys in the league eat him for lunch, and even though he can break the big play and make spectacular picks, he can’t consistently cover the best #1 receivers in the NFC or the rest of the NFL. If he asks for a big raise, I’d be tempted to let him walk.

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by Steve Stoehr on Jan 12, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Refreshing and encouraging

I love that we – along with the upper-brass of the Falcons offices – have the expectations of going deep in the playoffs. Even 4 straight winning seasons is no longer important against the larger goal of winning the big one.

TD is no fool. I know that Smitty is stubborn, but I think he just ate a tremendous amount of humble pie. He bought into the idea that the ground and pound system he loves would continue to work. What I heard from Blank and TD was something different. I heard it from TD last year and from Blank in this conference. I believe Smitty sees now that his methodology may not be the one to take them deeper.

I foresee the front office hiring a forward thinking and passionate OC and DC. I think Smitty’s days of stepping in and making offensive or defensive calls may be coming to an end.

I’m looking forward to this upcoming season.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

I like The Dunta contract.

Its a lot less than Matt Ryan gets I imagine. If hes was a 12 year vet? sure way too much. As an unlimited potential, He might turn out to be a bargain. I like Weems too. Lack of returns in the kickoffs into the stands era is not really a concern to me. Decoud? He is too damn fast to let get away. I would like to see Orson Charles come in to learn from TG for a year before he (TG) goes away.

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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 12, 2012 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

Dunta's set to make 6 million in 2012 with a cap number of 7.75 million

It’s not great, but it may buy him another year or two (at 6 and 7 mil respectively) until his base salary goes up in the 9 to 9.5 range, which he’ll never make.

Decoud is fast? Biermann outran him on a play against the Giants. He is many things (and some of them good), but he ran a 4.57 in a straight line at the combine, but his lateral quickness doesn’t make him look that fast.

I’m interested to see where Orson Charles is projected; I think a TE is finally and definitely on the draft board this year. Not sure if there isn’t a better dual-thread TE though; since Mularkey is gone, we can now play TEs that confound defenses by both blocking AND catching passes! Charles is great, but like Gonzalez he’s a big receiver and not much of a blocker.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I don't really see the keeping DeCoud

He gives up way too many big plays and seems like he doesn’t have a big impact on games at times. I read somewhere on here that he led the team with interceptions with 4? I think most of those were deflected or tipped balls that just so happen to bounce his way. Way to many dropped INT’s though.

by dirtybirdmagic on Jan 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Straight line fast and football fast are two different things.

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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 12, 2012 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

This third, embarrassing, post season loss was the best thing to ever happen to this Franchise

Mark my words….
I hear phrases like “We want to be great”. I heard words like “dominance”. Man, I’m convinced the approach from here on out will be much different and we can expect to see instant changes and improvements.

by mr92687!!! on Jan 12, 2012 8:18 AM EST reply actions  

I completely agree...

and said as much about a month and a half ago!! My post was more about firing the OC and DC but as it turns out, BVG left on his own and Jacksonville gave us a VERY early 2012 Christmas present by taking MM off our hands!!

Who knows, MM may make a much better coach than coordinator but Jag’s fans should not hold their breath, not if they want a “living” fan base to go see games anyway!!

I KNEW A. Blank was gonna be pissed!! You could see it on his face the last 3 or so losses (including the Giants game). This is NOT what he bought this team for and I am glad he is the owner of this team…PERIOD!!!

As far as Mike being pissed…he should have been pissed about half way through the season!!

I expect there to be drastic changes and improvements as well, which is why I don’t think Bratkowski will be getting the OC job…but that’s just me…

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 12, 2012 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

True

If Bratkowski gets the job then that goes against everything that was said yesterday. Promoting him, when there are better candidates out there sends a very bad message when you’re trying to fire up Falcons Nation.

by mr92687!!! on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I got that too

I don’t think they’re hedging their bets on Smith, but I think they’re having to bring him along philosophically. If it were up to Smith, I think he’d hire a traditional ground and pound OC and a zone defense guy. I don’t think that’s what we’ll see hired, and I actually think Smith will be ok with this.

I think Smith is a great HC. He commands the respect of his players, does a great job of keeping everyone in check and he brings a huge sense of stability to the organization. That said, I think he’s not the best judge of what it takes to succeed in todays NFL.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Great comment, rec'd

Smitty knows his seat is about ten degrees warmer than it was in 2011.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh

That makes logical sense. I guess that makes someone like Jack Del Reo or Steve Spagnuolo a more desired commodity. I think it also makes the postion of OC or DC more attractive for those who’d like an opportunity to inherit a team.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but this is not likely to change much.

If it were true, then there would be a huge incentive to no have a winning season. Then Smith gets fired and the DC or OC get a HC job. Not likely in my opinion.

by FalconsATL on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

with all due respect, I have to disagree with you
Based on responses in the press conference I get the impression Mike Smith will not be picking his future DC and OC instead it will be a collective effort.

I see your point, and body language does tell a lot in this case.

However, it is not uncommon for HCs and GMs to make a joint decision on who’s to be hired as coordinators. the hierarchy you mentioned exists in many, but not all teams. so to me, this move is not a sign of Smitty’s weakness (I agree his seat is becoming warmer though), but some sort of an attempt to share responsibility in making such an important decision – and it’s actually a good sign.
Many owners and GMs around the league tale active role in selecting staff, and while organizational culture may be different, the HC should still be having the final say, because it’s the HC who’s ultimately responsible for running the team.

the smart move would be to take over the hiring of the DC and OC and insure your next potential HC is already in the building.

you might be right, but I’d still look at it with some caution. let’s put it this way – Smitty will be fired from this team (with or w/out TD) only if the team doesn’t reach the goals within next 1-2 years. However, if that happens (God forbid) the blame will also fall on the coordinators (unless the whole season comes to one dumb HC call or non-call, like missed TO with 40 secs remaining and 2-3 timeouts left.). in other words, if history repeats itself in Atlanta (unless its 1998) we will see a complete overhaul, not just the HC.
Obviously, we will be able to tell if your idea is closer to truth or not when we see which candidates end up with the coordinator jobs.

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 12, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

If those ideas are correct

then this is a bigger mess than I thought. Cut the legs out from under Smith and hire two coordinators one of which will be a head coach in waiting. Good move.

Sounds like TD is throwing Smith under the bus.

TD is the real problem, his personnel moves the last three years have been disasters, Smith if anything held it together with personnel getting increasingly worse vs the NFL field.

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 12, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You're absolutely right!

Drafting guys like Matt Ryan, Corey Peters, Sean Weatherspoon, Curtis Lofton was insanely STUPID! What a horrifying disaster!

On top of that, he had the audacity – THE NERVE!!! – to create a franchise that WINS GAMES!

Someone get rid of TD RIGHT NOW!

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed....if we're gonna knee jerk let's make sure to kick the right guy in the nuts

That’d be MM. People forget just how MANY holes that TD has had to fill here. We were awful. Hardly any starting talent and ZERO depth.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

He does have a point

I would say Spoon and Peters are probably the only studs he has drafted on defense. Would include Moore if he could stay healthy. JJ will be a monster too though.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No, he doesn't

His point became ridiculous when he labeled what TD did the last few years “disasters.”

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Not disasters

But he can improve.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Hmmmmmm

You came up with four. That is about right, he gets about one player a year from the draft.

How about some you forgot, Baker, Jerry, Moore (always hurt), name one player picked after the first round in the last three drafts that starts. Moore (hurt as often as he is not), Peters, rotational tackle, Hawley, pressed into service due to the vacuum on the Oline and sucks. Jerry is a bust. So really, what you got is Spoon, who could be good, and Jones, who can never be as good as his cost in picks. The rest are on the bench, off the team or average players. Yes, three very remarkable and memorable drafts. Wondrous work. But what about free agents you say? Robinson and Edwards. Again, wondrous work.

The last three drafts and free agent moves have cost the franchise vs the field of the good NFL teams. And it showed its ugly head last weekend against the Giants, where they dominated the game. All of the game.

After four years of TD, he has yet to find a passer rusher, yet to find a shut down corner and now through attrition and lack of quality picks the OLine can’t rush or pass block. The team couldn’t compete against GB, and TD swung for the fences with the Jones deal, the team couldn’t compete against the Giants in any facet of the game and now Blank is pissed and he should be.

And the answer now is a complete revaluation of the entire roster. And they should do that. Problem is, it is the roster TD put together. And it is the roster that is the problem.

But let’s throw Smith under the bus while praising TD. Makes perfect sense to me.

And he has created a franchise good enough to beat the teams they should, but not one good enough to compete let alone win in the playoffs where big boy football is played. If that is what you want, DW, and it reads like it is, you are already there.

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 12, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Foolish

First, no one threw Smitty under the bus. He’s still here. He’s still in the process of finding the replacements. So, I don’t know where you’re getting that idea, but that’s absolute garbage.

Second – you’re writing off way too many guys too soon. Moore – while impaired by some injuries – is a very strong prospect at strong safety. Peters has become a solid starter and is not only a good run stopper, he’s shown pass rush skills too – in his second year.

As for Jones – who did we give up? Who did Cleveland get in the 2nd and 4th this year that were such standouts? You can’t possibly make that call yet.

Dunta is not utilized properly in soft zone schemes. And let’s see how Edwards does on a 100% healthy knee before declaring him a bust.

No – I’m not content with just beating the bad teams, but you sir called these picks a “disaster”, which is just utterly ridiculous. If you can’t recognize that 3/4 of the league would LOVE to have the problems the Falcons do right now, you are a fool.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

One more thing

Where Smitty is concerned – it was HE who made the fourth down calls against the Giants and the infamous one against the Saints. So, say what you want, but Smith had issues this year as well and he is not immune to criticism.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Foolish

Read other sources than just this site, Smith is getting the heat not TD. No garbage here.

I am not going to debate players with you again, so let’s play it the way you want to play it. In the last three years of drafts he got Moore (assumes he plays), Peters, Spoon and Jones. To get Jones, TD have up most of the value in next year’s draft as well, so it is really four years of drafts, and that is one player a year, and that is what you got for four year’s of drafts and the better NFL teams do much, much better than that, and if you can’t you are not going to compete with them. And if you don’t think so, watch the Giant game or the Green Bay game in the playoffs, and tell yourself we are close.

We’re not. In fact we are further back then we were last year. And that is because the better organizations are making better personnel decisions and thus have more QUALITY players coming into their organization.

Why do you think Blank is so pissed and wants to reevaluate the entire roster? Because he knows he has problems with the personnel. TD’s personnel. After four years of drafts, and stealing massively from one draft that hasn’t even taken place yet, four big money FA signings and you get wiped out in the first round by arguably the worst team in the NFC side of the playoffs. Didn’t even score a point. Explosive indeed.

Problem, you bet. With the roster, you bet. TD’s roster, you bet.

Color it anyway you want, and hang your hat on Mr. Peters burgeoning pass rush skills, and repeat after me, In TD We Trust, In TD We Trust.

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 12, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Haters will be haters

We’re done. You obviously think this team – with 4 straight winning seasons – is a lost cause. You’re convinced that players that have less than 4 years under their belts are “busts.”

You wanna hate – go ahead. I’m choosing to believe in this franchise and the turn-around they’ve made.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Lost Cause

If you are referring to winning the Super Bowl as currently comprised and managed (TD much more than Smith), then yes. They are done.

I have been railing against TD and his moves for years on this board, and panned the Jones trade big time and was widely dismissed as you are doing now. I said at that time, watch how the season plays, we are going to be farther behind the league this year than last, and I will be back to remind you of it.

Here I am. And we are. It is not about being a hater, it is about seeing the obvious. They are three years off minimum from contending and that assumes TD steps up his game big time.

I’ll be back to remind you of same.

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by Whopper Dawg on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, I'm not the only one you insult

Your demeaning attitude and outlandish remarks are a smack in the face of any fans on this board who choose to be patient with the management who have – AGAIN – given us four straight winning seasons. And from a franchise that was on the precipice of destruction.

You have yet to acknowledge the fact that these men gave us these issues. That they saved this franchise. That – despite the playoff losses – they’ve given us a franchise to be proud of, current failings not withstanding.

You want to be the “right” one and be the one that “always knew.”

As for “we’re done” – I meant with you. You’re not worth the time I’ve put into this fruitless argument. Others on this board can see the positives of this new regime and despite my disagreements with them, they are reasonable and level-headed. You – on the other hand – are a hater.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You are right, I revise my position

While last year was a playoff disappointment, it was the fourth winning season in a row (a record!!) and playoffs three of four years (another record!!). While some may disappointed in the first round exits from the playoffs, let’s keep in mind that upon closeer perspective, we lost to two NFC SB participants, one of which won it all, and the Giants are now reminding people of their SB team not long ago, we are really a footstep away from the big stage.

Both coordinators are gone, but that is an opportunity!!!! And it is reassuring to see the “Big Three” remain united as ever and will continue to lead us to bigger and better things next year and beyond.

As to the players, Ryan again moved up the QB rating chart and is taking firmer control of the offense in the hurry up, no huddle look that causes so many problems for the defenses. I look for him to reach that elite level he next year that he has bordered on.

OLIne – While a bit maligned over the year, several players garnered valuable playing experience that will serve them in good stead in the future. Hawley, Reynolds, Sviteck and Johnson form what may be the best core of youngsters in the league, look for great things from them next year, balanced by the experience of Blalock and McClue with Baker providing veteran backup at multiple positions.

TE – What can you say? Hope TG comes back next year with his great talents and locker room presence. And it is good to have Kelley back in the fold in addition to the two youngsters being groomed to replace the vets.

WRs – The strength of the team with Roddy a now perennial all pro and Julio proving that TD made a very wise choice with the trade. Add in Douglas in the slot and Meier, seldom used but loaded with potential, and this is the best group in the league bar none.

DL – Starts with Abraham recording an all pro potential year. Still spry and playing all facets well, he is the MVP of this group. Edwards had to overcome injury, but when healthy was strong against the run and showed his pass rush capabilities too. Biermann provided veteran backup and could start for many teams. The DTs led by Babs and Peters were great against the run and showed flashed of an interior push against the pass. With Jerry finally getting some quality reps, he is poised for a breakout season next year validating his first round selection. Walker provides needed rotational depth.

LBs – What can you say about Spoon and Lofton? The best two young LBs in the league. Both should be all pro next year, let opponents beware. Nickolas should be back from injury and is an above average player. Will Dent make an impact next year as an every down player? He could.

CBs – Dunta and Grimes provide shut down corners on both sides, both were limited by D scheme but should really break out next year. Quality backups are found with both Owens and Franks providing great backup and nickel help.

Ss – DeCoud and Moore are verging on being the best tandem in the league. If both stay healthy, the sky is the limit. TD picked up quality backups from his ex boss in New England.

A couple of pick ups through the draft and FA, and we will be booking flights to the Bowl next year!!!!!!!

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 12, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Your hatred for TD blinds you

I appreciate that you’re an effective foil to those who trust too deeply in Dimitroff. He’s made mistakes, and I’m not going to argue that. Barring a sudden surge, you were absolutely correct about Jerry.

But you’re so determined to prove that TD is a terrible GM and snake oil salesman that you’re willing to pretend quality players are bad players. Corey Peters is a great run-stopper, a decent pass rusher and a quality player. Sean Weatherspoon is, right now, a very good player. Matt Bosher was one of the best punters in the league after a slow start. Chris Owens and Dominique Franks are coming into their own.

I would prefer his hit rate was 100%. We all would. He’s not infalliable, and he’s not going to keep his job forever if this team can’t get better. But he’s a damn sight better than a lot of GMs around the NFL today, and this team didn’t become a perennial playoff contender because he sucks at his job.

I’m as ready as you are for the Falcons to take the next step. If TD can’t assemble the talent in the next year or two, move on. But I don’t understand why you dislike the guy as strongly as you do.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 13, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Whew

Hatred – Blinds – Strong words, but typical for this board if one dares be critical of the commandant rather than repeat the “In TD We Trust” mantra and bless every move he makes as genesis.

And it is not about proving the TD is a terrible GM, but it is about pointing out that the last three years of personnel moves have been suspect at best.

Review my posts on the last three years, I have always given him credit for Spoon, Peters and Moore may be a player if he can stay on the field. I won’t discuss the Jones trade again, but no way can that be put in the plus column given the cost given. Even Bellichik told him not to pull that trigger. And that’s the rub, if we are going to CATCH, and catch is the operative word, the elite franchise, he has got to get more than one players a year on average out of the draft. If he doesn’t he is losing ground to the elite NFL field. And you can’t give up five picks for one WR, that is laughable. I won’t comment on the other players you listed, none are a factor.

I don’t know what you mean by the next step, I guess that would be one playoff win. And maybe they will get there over the next two years, sometimes you get a good draw. But if you mean the next step is winning the SB, then good luck, and if not within two years (that would be end year six of this regime), then when?

What are the top three things you need to be able to do in the current NFL?

Be accurate with your passes.
Protect your QB.
Rush the opposing QB.

After four years, we may have one of the three, the first one, although that is debatable. The other two nada.

Will it be better next year? Maybe, if Blank opens his wallet yet again, but dollars to doughnuts, it is not coming from the draft.

I actually think that Smith was the best move TD has made. I also think that Smith is a better coach than TD is a GM.

In closing, they have done a great job taking the team from the trash heap to where they are, but I can argue that the team is pretty much where it was after the first year. And if being a perennial playoff contender is your appetite, God bless. If you want to win it all within your two year horizon, you got a problem.

by Whopper Dawg on Jan 13, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

After reading these comments...

I can see your point even if I wholeheartedly disagree with it as far as TD goes. I too did not agree with the JJ trade but after see the caliber of this kids attitude and mental approach to go alone with a very solid rookie year…this kid has superstar written all over him, But, he still overpaid for it!!

TD has put LOADS of talent on this team and did a very poor job with the coaching staff but I am hoping that will be addressed as well. With the right coaches a SB next year or the year after is VERY realistic IMHO.

Just my thoughts on it…

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Moore has started 26 of the 32 games the last 2 seasons (played in 28).

Peters has started 30/32 (played in 31), and has been making more plays than Babineaux the last 2 seasons. He’s not just a “rotational” guy.

Both of those guys are bona fide starters.

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by orang3b on Jan 12, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You do realize this team was the consensus least talented team in the league before TD took over. The Falcons were projected to finish with the worst record in the entire league in 2008, and instead they’ve gone on to make the playoffs in 3 out of 4 years. Get a grip on reality man.

by alxn on Jan 12, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Over reaction?

Coordinators needed to go but to act like the sky is falling is too much. I’m not sure how it will compromise the integrity of the guys who have been doing well.

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by Ball Hawk on Jan 12, 2012 9:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

You'd hope it would motivate most

But that may be unrealistic.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it is an over reaction.

This is exactly what needs to be done when complacency sets in. Everyone, from the HC and GM, down to the dude that trails CMS during the game making certain no one gets tangled in his headset cable, needed to be reminded that they are accountable. We all believe Arthur Blank to be one shrewd duded and I don’t believe for a second that he has ever invested in a stock expecting it to tank or, at best remain level. He expects his investments to appreciate, and while I believe the Falcons are more of a passion than an investment to him, he does have lot invested in the team and has every right to expect to see that investment generate continual growth.

Players who are performing well should also be thrilled by this development. Sure, there will be some wariness regarding new coordinators, but how can they not love the fact that the guy who signs the paychecks recognizes that there is some dead wood on the roster holding everyone else back. He is publicly empowering his staff to do whatever it takes to put his players in position to succeed.

In short, Mr. Blank is walking the walk.

by jcaustic on Jan 12, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

from D. Orlando Ledbetter

@AJCFalcons: RT @sportsandra: Joe Theisman might have just slipped! He SAID: “Brian Schottenheimer…so much more to work with in Matt Ryan as off coord for the Falcons”

by Brog on Jan 12, 2012 9:22 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

This would not be awful

Schottenheimer did decently well with some pretty putrid pieces in New York. Still would not be my first choice.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

IDK

I do not know how to feel about this. Seems awfully similar to Mularkey

by Brog on Jan 12, 2012 9:31 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Todd Haley

would top my list. although Ryan may not be the second coming of Kurt Warner, he might improve our passing game.

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 12, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade Mularkey for a mularkey clone who couldn't get a HC job?

A good rule (with some exceptions), never hire a coordinator who has just been fired for a coordinating job. If they were fired as a head coach, fine, since this likely meant they excelled as a coordinator. That’s why fired coordinators should only end up as position coaches, and work their way back up.

by TheAreopagite on Jan 12, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope this is just speculation!

by Brog on Jan 12, 2012 9:52 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I think alot of the issues up there had to do with Sanchez.

Ryan is a much better QB. When a team openly complains about their QB and say they would like another QB, then there are issues. Would I be excited about this pick? Not by a long shot.

by Fear Me on Jan 12, 2012 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Please note...

That Tony Sparano is going to go to a ground n’ pound offense with two tight end sets because Sanchez was “overwhelmed” by Schotty’s “wide open” offense.

I think I suddenly see the allure.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Right...Here's the entire comment from AJC from Theisman

"[Brian] felt like he was saddled and limited by what Mark Sanchez can do in New York," Theisman said. "Mark is really not that good. He’s a hard-working kid. He wants to be good. But he doesn’t understand the game of football the way Matt does.

"You have to play the position with the knowledge of where you are on the field, what the score is in the game. What [you] can do. What [you] can’t do. What are the things that are required of me. Really, the only route that Mark throws effectively is the quick post. He’s going to have a whole lot more to work with, with Matt Ryan.</strong>

Talk about Sanchez getting slammed!

by Fear Me on Jan 12, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Sanchez vs Ryan

When you really look at it, Ryan has far more experience than Sanchez, by a long shot. Sanchez left after his sophmore year – while Ryan left as a 5th year senior. Those extra three years do a tremendous amount to develop a QB.

Also, Ryan is also one of the smartest QBs in the league. That helps to limit the learning curve.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I see his point (maybe)...

I think that is a little harsh on Sanchez but I do agree MR is miles ahead of him.

I just think there are a couple of better candidates out there as mentioned above.

Let’s just hope AB/TD/MS have their thinking caps on for this just like they do with the draft…we shall see.

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It's just like...

…that girl who tries to hook you up with their friend, so she talks you up, says how much she would love you and how much you two should meet.
Then you finally do and she’s a solid 7 at best.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I can see that but on the offensive side of the ball

they were lacking in some areas. I think Holmes was the bright spot and he can be a head case at times. It took Plaxico a little while to get going but he’s already in his twilight years. The team reminded me of Baltimore about 5 years ago…very strong defense but to heck with the offense. He did a lot more with much less talent then what’s on the Falcons’ team

by Fear Me on Jan 12, 2012 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

You say "solid 7" like that's bad...man...lol

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Because

It is.
If an unattractive girl asks me to rate them I say “solid 7”
And usually that’s what a guy says about a girl that isn’t attractive but they say so.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, if I actually use the word "unattractive" in reference to a woman...

that is 4 and below for me. 7’s and up are usually good looking to fine. But hey, I guess everyone’s measuring stick is different…lol

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by Blood_Talon on Jan 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

7 out of courtesy.
Also, just search “solid 7 meme,” it’s sort of an inside joke I’ve heard a lot of places.

Anyway, Schottenheimer is like a 6/10.
Nothing to be proud of, not what you want, but I guess if you really need it he’s there.
The Falcons booty call.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha...too funny...

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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders

"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster

by Blood_Talon on Jan 12, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pathetic.

Please no. Has he ever run a successful offense?

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeahhh but...

Idk why he was ran out of NY to tell you the truth. Not my first choice either but just as long as he is creative, Im fine with it.

by dirtybirdmagic on Jan 12, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI

Apparently, there was a “Fire Schottenheimer” facebook page and petition circulating prior to his departure with the Jets. Sounds eerily familiar…

by pellonsita on Jan 12, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I DON'T like this idea either!!

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"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster

by Blood_Talon on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

That's another "ok" option

But we need a little better than just “ok”…..

by mr92687!!! on Jan 12, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah all the options I've heard so far are just blah

Schotty…still unproven imo although I admit he didn’t have a lot to work with on offense
Martz…donkey that will get our QB killed
Bratkowski…Mularkey +1
Koetter….what did Jacksonville’s offense do?
CHildress….pretty solid numbers wherever he’s been…but leadership and personality of a rock
Hue…at first I was like ….feh…not enough sample size imo…but he did pretty good with Oakland
Haley…pretty good OC but I hear he’s a jerk

No one mentioned has really knocked my socks off of existing coordinators.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Dunno I'm still leaning toward a highly successful college coordinator

I think some of the brightest playcallers available are in the college ranks right now. I’m tired of NFL retreads imho.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree

Be wary of any coordinator who says “I didn’t have the right tools…”. That’s normally an indication that 1) he’s willing to pass blame to the organization and 2) he lacks the creativity to produce an offense that takes advantage of the players he has.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah and I think it's different bringing one in as a coordinator rather than head coach

I think a successful college OC would have a higher success rate than trying to bring one in as a head coach. Plus college coaches are muuuuch better prepared in todays college landscape then they’ve ever been.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

If that's a comment about Schotty

Those comments were made by Joe Theismann when he speculated that Schotty might be Atlanta bound. To my knowledge, Schotty never publicly said anything negative about his personnel.

by jcaustic on Jan 12, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

My take

Schotty – Young, and could be great. Still, he likes to play Mularkeyball.
Martz – Oh, so we’d like to make a jump from 6th most QB hits to 1st?
Bratkowski – Eh. I think he’s good in that he’s familiar, but I don’t know how much he’d do to improve the offense.
Koetter – If Smitty was fully in charge, he’d want him. But I can’t see TD and Mr. Blank wanting him. ,
Childress – Smart guy, and he’s had great success in the past. I’d be happy if he took the job.
Hue – He seems like a good football mind, but really he’s not much an upgrade over Bratkowski.
Haley – He’s an attractive option. Imagine, Roddy = Boldin, Julio = Fitzgerald. He’d be great for Julio as he develops. He’s an idiot for not playing Jamaal Charles (obviously in 2010) more, but otherwise he’s a great OC for Matty and the WRs. Also he’s from Atlanta, so he’d maybe prefer being an OC for the Falcons.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Just remember the source

is Theisman. He’s been putting his foot in his mouth for years. I’ll take it with a grain of salt until someone else confirms it.

by drmondo667 on Jan 12, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Darrell Bevell anyone?

any chance we can coax him out of seattle?

by GTbacker on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

One of the most important things said yesterday that I didn't hear until I was watching the news

is that they said they will re-sign 8 of their 17 free agents. You can kind of figure out most of them with Grimes and Lofton leading the way. So 6 more to go…5 more if they’re counting Gonzo already.

by Fear Me on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Here:

Out:
Redman (JPW takes over), Kelvin Heyden, James Sanders, Jason Snelling, Todd McClure, Kroy Biermann, Michael Palmer, Joe Zelenka, Mike Peterson

Stays put:
Lofton, Grimes, Harry Douglas, Gonzo (I bet they are counting him already), DeCoud (or Sanders, it’s up in the air), Antone Smith, Weems, Vance Walker, John Abraham

My guess anyway.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

My vote says

they keep McClure. The O-line was terrible when he wasn’t playing.

by BigFalcon84 on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Maybe for one or 2 more years.

But that’s while our 2nd round pick Ben Jones gains some experience on the bench.
I love ol Mud Duck, but his days are numbered.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I would rather keep

Kelvin Hayden, Todd McClure, James Sanders, and Mike Peterson Over Antone Smith, Eric Weems, Vance Walker and Harry Douglas. I really like Douglas but Mike Peterson is our Linebackers mentor he is the reason Sean and Curtis are so good so fast. Hayden and Sanders helped cover up weak spots all season, each game someone in our secondary was injured and they filled up holes almost instantly. We need that Depth. Todd McClure Is a must if we let him go then you are looking at Svitek/Baker, Joe Hawley and Garret Reynolds all Starting on the Same offensive line. Matt Would Retire…

by falcons101 on Jan 12, 2012 10:46 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I think Zelenka stays...

…unless he demands some exhorbitant amount of money. Long Snappers can play into their 60’s, and he has been solid.

I loved the play of Hayden and Sanders, but their respective age did become a concern. We need solid backup, though, for when C4 misses his obligatory 2-3 games a year.

Losing Michael Palmer means losing our only other TE who can catch the ball. Unless there is an available mid-cost FA available, I doubt we lose Palmer.

Anyone know if Colin Peek is getting back into football ( he was cut during 2010 preseason due to injury, wasn’t he)?

by Mnemonic on Jan 12, 2012 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

agree on Zelenka

it’s good when you never hear your long snappers name in the whole season

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 12, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Zelenka will probably stay

But at the same time, I doubt he’s one of the FAs on the “priority” list. If he resigns, great; if not, we’ll get another snapper.

by GritsBlitz on Jan 12, 2012 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

John Parker Wilson has no business being the #2 guy

This past pre-season he looked horrible. Plus he has a weak arm. We need to keep Redman or get a solid back-up. We all saw what happened to CHI when Cutler went down.

by leonw92 on Jan 12, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hell no

Redman needs to go and JPW as well. Draft a QB or sign a free agent back up. I don’t think either of the 2 are a solid option if Ryan is to go down.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 12:36 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hear you but

I’d be less likely to gouge out my eye with Redman behind center. If we were in CHI’s predicament and only needing to win 1 or two games to make the playoffs, I’d like to think Redman can get it done. I don’t think there is anything much better on the FA list.

by leonw92 on Jan 12, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

for that same reason

Redman could be playing starter on some other team – and might actually test the waters like Snelling did last year.

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 12, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe JPW takes over at #2 because...

…of the contract that he signed last season. He’s decent, and I suppose that we bring in a rookie or a FA to compete with him to win the #2 spot.
Generally though, I think TD would be the kind of guy to go cheap on a backup QB.

The most likely situation would be to draft a guy in the 7th. TD drafted Matt Cassel for the Pats, I’m sure he’ll be doing something similar.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My Guess Is

That they will resign curtis lofton, sanders, HD, beerman while I can see grimes leaving because he might want to play else where and the price is too high, abe is too old to invest money as much as I love him, with that being said I think well have a DC who can get pressure without relying on the D-Line and who can force turnovers, on offense want Haley,jackson wouldn’t mind brian he just had. Terrible qb and an unrealistic coach

by Nedk23 on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Abe

might still have something left in his tank, if he can be brought back at some veteran pay.

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 12, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Without an offensive and defensive coordinator

its impossible to predict who will be resigned and who they’ll let walk.

by mr92687!!! on Jan 12, 2012 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

True, but...

…it’s hard not to like Grimes and Lofton. I think that whoever takes over will make a push to resign both.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Eric Weems

The fact that Eric Weems is an MVP scares me because his performance used to be spectacular but over the last two years he has made many bad judgements on returns backing us up against our own end zone. He also has not been very great on returns either when he does return it even with the moving up of the kickoff spot.

by falcons_fatalattraction on Jan 12, 2012 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

Knowing Smitty...

He’s thinking more about Special Teams tackles and blocking – and I can definitely say the little guy hustles in coverage and is always at the ball. His return game was middling, but, well, it was the best on the team (sample size = 1).

by kman_722 on Jan 12, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

Weems has an excuse since the rules have been changed.

by dude-bro on Jan 12, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved the little episode when DOL

asked about transparency in terms of DC and OC selection and Blank went off on him. “Daryl this is not a public vote” at 16:15 of the press conference…priceless. Notice how confused Smitty was with the question from DOL. He’s a lame duck at this point.

by Kushion on Jan 12, 2012 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

Teams are not required to be transparent about that, really

I’d say the Falcons are a little less opaque than the average NFL team. I get where DOL is coming from, but I also get where Blank is coming from.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

DOL is delusional

The only reason other teams would be transparent is if they already have something lined up. Few NFL teams are “open” about the candidates – especially if they don’t get their preferred initial picks. Fans would freak-out that the franchise is “settling”, when in reality, organizations have to plan on going through numerous names when going on a search of this nature.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

More or less

Having been on the reporter side of the equation, I get the frustration of not knowing where the search is going, and hearing the word “private.” But yeah, the Falcons are under no obligation to tell him anything at this point.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Transparency

Did you hear the one about the schizophrenic that came into the Psychiatrist’s office naked wearing only Saran Wrap? The Dr. said I clearly see you’re nuts.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

He's here all week!

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha!

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Jan 12, 2012 2:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Probably still in shock

From the debacle of a performance in the playoff game.

Frankly, I’m still reeling.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you DW

Although I’m nervous / excited too. I mean we weren’t complacent with a 10-6 first round playoff loss after 40 years of baaaad football. That says alot. If we fix our OL and get a piece here and there and good coordinators hired…this could be fun real quick like. I see a collective fire in the eyes of the three men in the snapshot above.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah - same feeling here

I think the loss last year helped them to learn that you have to be able to play explosive football these days.

The loss Sunday helped them to learn that isn’t accomplished with one or two players. It’s a combination of players, scheme and passion.

That said, we’ve now had two painful playoff losses (the first playoff loss was not that painful, given the expectations of that season) – and the lessons should be done. It’s time to start applying them.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Defense Defense Defense

While watching this season I was disappointed with the “hit or miss” style of offense we were running. Also, odd decisions like against the Vikings when we were kicking their butt in the first half, so at 15:00 of the second half we start trying to run out the clock. I hate that, keep them on their heels!

That said, my heart sank every time the other team got the ball because the Falcs played such soft zone. It seemed anyone that wanted to run a quick slant could get 12 yards no problem. We had a few players that were making plays, but the opposing teams really had no one to fear. No Polomalu or Ed Reed or Champ Bailey to make an offense think twice about throwing across the middle or going deep. I want Atlanta to have a fearsome defense, not a bend and break one.

I like the tone of the conference and I am confident they recognize their problems and will work to fix them.

by Tsynr on Jan 12, 2012 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly....we need someone that is unapologetic about keeping a foot on people's throats

You start aggressive and you stay aggressive til the last whistle blows. You can still run the clock getting first downs and friggin trying to keep scoring period. Same with our 3rd down problems on defense. We’d drop into “safe” zones and still give them the 1st downs. Make the opposing QB make quicker decisions by oh….say…not rushing THREE DL?!

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

most of the pieces are there..

What’s missing is a solid line on both sides of the ball.falcons problem is they built a team outside in..u get the big nastys first then work out.we have the skilled positions covered..now let’s get some dominent linemen.given time I’m positive ryan can shred any d.same with our d..u get strong line play opposing qbs get frustrated getting knocked around & start making bad decisions thus commiting turnovers.ryan had no time & our d cldnt get2 the qb.fix this & we win big games.

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by turnj35 on Jan 12, 2012 11:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

my thoughts on mm & bvg..

Mm I liked his no huddle & play designs..he just didn’t know how 2 use them plain & simple he is a poor play caller..bvg d wasn’t that bad.he just didn’t have the right pieces on his line.no 1 one his line was getting the job done besides abe period! That causes the zone 2 expand & u get huge holes where now u got a wr running full speed 4 a td.

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by turnj35 on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah MM's script worked til it ran out and he had to playcall or adjust

Then it was like…uhmmmmm….uhhhh….hmmmmm

Agree on BVG…caught between covering up a bad pass rush on the front end and a bad DB core on the back end.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, No-huddle

No-huddle worked until Ryan and Co. had to play road games and it was too loud to hear his audibles…

by pellonsita on Jan 12, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

OC's fault for not having hand signals or something

That’s no excuse really. I know it probably had an effect, but there were plenty o times Mularkey not wanting to relinquish that control to Matt had more to do with it. IMHO

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Watching that press conference left me to ask myself...

Do they read our blogs. Cause they had the pulse of the fans…they felt as frustrated as we are and all the same issues. It was awesome

by Bigru3 on Jan 12, 2012 11:39 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Yup

Not sure if they read this blog (I’d imagine some of them do), but the frustrations we have as fans are valid – and it’s very nice to hear it validated by the entire management team.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not like we're COMPLETE hacks

I mean we watch every game like they do. It should be MORE telling if the dedicated fan can see the problems and know how to address some of it.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

It was good to see confirm...

Look we realize where our flaws as coaches and managers are we also realize that our personel maybe lacking that extra effort and focus. We share what the fans feel and their are issues that we will address with a closed fist. It wasnt like guys who have an ego and feel that their players the signed drafted and coach can do know wrong. Theyre very humble and “flogged” themselves over the disappointing season and it was genuine.

by Bigru3 on Jan 12, 2012 11:48 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks man!

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by Dave Choate on Jan 12, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its was the fanbase needs...

So it was cool and inspiring to keep the hope up.

by Bigru3 on Jan 12, 2012 11:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i wanna thank the falcoholic writers2..

I come here multiple times everyday2 read.was hard2 post bc of my phone but I got a new 1 now so its on.lol..I love this site..I agree with dw the most out of every1 I’ve noticed since he started commenting.lol

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by turnj35 on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Missed opportunities and Inconsistency.

TD repeated Missed tackles at least twice, inconsistency multiple times and dropped passes from game after game which could have changed the outcome of few games. I guess they are looking at everything and suffice to say none of the players are safe even if they are pro-bowlers.

It's all about Process...

by Vishnu_falcon on Jan 12, 2012 12:02 PM EST reply actions  

Someone mentioned the offensive and defensive lines

Those two units bother me the most. Nine of our last twenty one draft picks in the last three years have been used on offensive and defensive linemen, and only one of them is a full time starter and that’s Corey Peters. Why are we not getting consistency and good productivity from the two units that has gotten the most attention on this team? Blank even mentioned the offensive line in the Press Conference yesterday. We praise Dimitroff for being a good General Manager, but it’s obvious that his weakness lies in the trenches.

by mr92687!!! on Jan 12, 2012 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

and
Corey Peters

was the guy we also said was overvalued by TD during the draft. but he played almost at the 1st rounder level.

I hate to say it, but Peria became a non-factor and Babs wasn’t spotted anywhere around positive defensive plays after midseason.

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by Gemini-RU on Jan 12, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotten the most attention??

“9 of the last 21 draft picks used on OL and DL”.

9 of the 22 starters are OL and DL… so that’s almost exactly the right rate to be drafting linemen. But when you consider than most of those draft picks have been in the 4th Round and later, I could make the case that Dimitroff has under-drafted those units. This is a possible off-season FanPost item for me (I’ve started collecting some of the data), but here’s a quick and dirty version:

Generally the team has kept 9 O-Linemen on the 53 every season. That’s 17% of the roster. 5 OL (Baker, Reynolds, Mike Johnson, Hawley, and Andrew Jackson) out of 35 draft picks to aquire players (including trades for Tony G, Tye Hill, and Domonique Foxworth) – that’s only 14% of the picks used. And even including the First Rounder spent on Baker, he’s only spent 11% of the draft value on O-Linemen (using a Draft Value chart). Same story for DE (and Cornerback). Our LB’s are so strong (and deep) because we’ve spent a 1 (Spoon), a 2 (Lofton), and a 3 (Dent) in the last four drafts (in addition to FA’s and guys that were already on the roster).

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Jan 12, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok....

My point wasn’t really to point out the rate of which we draft linemen, but to point out the success rate of the linemen we drafted in the last three years. Where linemen make up nearly half of our draft selections in the last three the success rate is terribly low, and our biggest problem on this team are consistency on the offensive and defensive lines. That just shouldn’t be.

by mr92687!!! on Jan 12, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network

Just said That Brian Billick is one of our main targets as well as Dirk koetter, Marty Shottenhiemer, and Tom Clements. I like Billick or Shotty out of the Group. What do you guys think??

by falcons101 on Jan 12, 2012 12:11 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

I want some new blood

Tom Clements would be amazing. He has done wonders for Rodgers and Flynn. Plus he is from the McCarthy tree and I would like to see what he could do with MR.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I like Clements

As well, I just would rather get somebody we know will do good things with our O instead of trying something That might not work. But granted Tom Clements would be great if we were to get him.

by falcons101 on Jan 12, 2012 1:26 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Billick doesn't sound so bad to me, but I don't know if he'll come

He was a super bowl winning head coach that has turned down HC opportunities lately and seems to be happy doing analysis. We’ll see.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Clements

From what I hear….granted it was DOL that I’m repeating…but Clements is really loyal to the GB organization and doesn’t want the Falcons OC job.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

dont let it happen

please dont let the falcons load up with new people that wont gel. Look at the Eagles and Jets. I trust that the F.O. will do everything they can to prevent this. We are a bit spoiled with our new streak of winning seasons. Like Blank said “good is the enemy of great”. GO Birds, RISE UP!!!

by Matt Holcomb on Jan 12, 2012 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

Trade for Dahl and get rid of all the other O-lineman!

It’s time for McClure to retire. The only Falcon who spent more time on his back was Ray Edwards.

Hawley was a draft reach and was abused at guard. Damn it Dimitroff, you don’t have to reach for players who would have been available in later rounds.

Clabo looked anything but like an All Pro in Dahl’s absence. Send that disgruntled player rep packing. He’s the Falcons’ Santonio Holmes locker room cancer.

Baker is the JA98 of the offensive line. Indy might be a good place for Sam, too.

If Mike Johnson can’t break into this starting rotation, he must really suck! He’d be better going back to Alabama as a coach.

Garret Reynolds needs to be on Dancing With The Stars. Maybe then he’ll learn how to add a little quickness to his lead feet. He’s still probably standing on the sidelines in Met Life Stadium.

On the bright side, Svitek is an adequate backup, so he stays.

by Bobby Falcon on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I'd say McClure and Svitek are safe

Actually don’t think Hawley played too bad having been shuffled from emergency center to Guard and as a first year starter at that.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Regarding Mike Johnson

It’s hard to break into the rotation when you’re on IR…

by GritsBlitz on Jan 12, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he was in the competition for RG

until he got a pre-season concussion.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Jan 13, 2012 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

What might have been?

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by Dave Choate on Jan 13, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

If Johnson were worthy of a third round selection, he would have easily beat out Garret Reynolds, concussion or no concussion.

The fact that Johnson was in a tight battle with Reynolds prior to the concussion shows you just how poor a player Johnson really is.

The bottom line is that the O-line sucks and has been overrated for years. No where on the line is there a dominant run blocker or pass protector extraordinaire. Like the Falcons’ defense, the O-line puts fear in no opponents.

by Bobby Falcon on Jan 14, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats my main issue with TD

He reaches too much for me. Its different when they pan out but Baker, hawley, and even dent could have been drafted in the later rounds.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Well the Baker example has to be put in context

We had NOOOO offensive line worth a crap and had to get a tackle. IF you remember that draft they were flying off the board. So he traded up a bit to make sure we got one. Has Baker been great? No…but he’s been fairly solid over there for the last few years even though his natural position was RT if I remember correctly.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The projected him as RT or RG

And most analysts had Baker going early to middle second round. We got him at the end of the first, which isn’t that much of a reach, as you noted.

As for Dent and Hawley, it’s too soon to say. Hawley played well at times this season. I want to see how he looks next year before calling him a reach. Same for Dent.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I think Dent is a headhunter and Hawley wasn't as bad as people make out

IF you watched special teams Dent made some really good plays and will get more playing time this year I think on the LB corp. I don’t see us keeping James. Hawley is a more athletic type guard than smash mouth but filled in pretty well when a lot was asked of him when McClure went down and switched back to RG.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The point isnt that his pocks arent good

But if you can get that same player in a later round. You might as well draft the best player available with that pick.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I've seen several instances

Where GMs lost the player they wanted to get by thinking that player was going to stay on the boards later. Ask the Giants fans about Weatherspoon – the Giants thought he was going to slip further then the Falcons snatched him up.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah its 50/50

Cause im pretty sure GB didnt think Cobb would fall in their lap.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah and we had 3 2nd rounders

Still i think we could have gotten a better option than Baker.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe

But as noted below, those things are easy to see in hindsight.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but he could have gotten Brown

From VT who is now anchoring Hou O line which most believe is the best in the league.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Easy to say in hindsight

It’s impossible to know who will or will not be a great player in the NFL. Baker was a very solid prospect, coming out of USC. The fact that he has not worked out does not classify him as a reach – it classifies him as a disappointment.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I bet if you add up hits and misses regardless of GM

I bet the draft is a 50% hit rate max regardless of who is picking. I mean it’s far from an exact science. Not being an apologist for TD just saying. The main thing you can’t do is whiff on your 1st and 2nd rounders.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

And I’d say for his 50%, TD has done admirably.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you always wanna hit on the first 3 rounds

After that its really a lets see what we can find approach.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Absolutely

And so far, our first rounders: Matt Ryan, Sean Weatherspoon, Julio Jones, Peria Jerry. Right now, that looks like 3/4, if you write off Peria.

second rounders: Curtis Lofton, William Moore – I’d say 2/2.

by The DW on Jan 12, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

True

But i still feel Blank had something to do with that. Since Bakers dad was the GM or something for the Georgia Force.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

On a separate note while we're on OL picks

There are supposed to be a TON of good OL in free agency this year. Which is good in two ways. (1) We should be able to fill a couple of holes. (2) They should come a little cheaper since there might be a mini-glut.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

In hindsight...

Any team in the league could have picked up Arian Foster in the 7th round.

Based on what he started with, TD has done a fantastic job rebuilding the Birds. Now, we have to go from good to great, just like AB said.

by GritsBlitz on Jan 12, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Trouble is,

You never know when a player is going to get picked. Almost everyone on this board thought that Peters was a reach, but he wouldn’t have lasted another round. Mike Holmgren was pissed that TD took Peters right before CLE’s pick came up; if TD had waited, Peters would be in CLE.

by GritsBlitz on Jan 12, 2012 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

So what kind of team do they want?

A team that scores a lot of points or a team that doesn’t allow a lot of points? I’d rather be a team that can score points quickly and have a defense that can get the ball back to the offense.

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Jan 12, 2012 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

Just read the link to Jeff Schultz article which has a link above...

Damn MM is a sensitive dude who blows it under pressure. He didnt respond well to questions from the media. He resigned from Buffalo, probably cause he couldnt take the heat and he pretty much ran our offense into the ground then tryed to get out asap cause he couldnt take it. Hows he gonna make it in Jax? Lol Good Luck MM…your gonna need it

by Bigru3 on Jan 12, 2012 1:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

He'll be the first casualty of Hitchcocks newest thriller....SNOWBIRDS!!!!

A bevy of tee’d off geriatrics in jumpsuits and walkers rushing the podium during post game.

by dr3dd1ne on Jan 12, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I know this is defense

But Todd Bowles the secondary coach could be in play for DC. Mia secondary has played solid over the last year. Would love to see him get a interview.

by pierre02 on Jan 12, 2012 2:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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