Week 17 Early Games Open Thread
by Dave Choate on Jan 1, 2012 12:00 PM EST
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PrintThe Falcons' fate in the playoffs could be determined by the time their game starts.
The games to watch here? That'd be Packers-Lions, Saints-Panthers and Cowboys-Giants. Why, you ask? Simple.
- If the Lions beat the Packers, the Falcons are the 6th seed, no matter what they do against the Buccaneers.
- Seeing the Panthers beat the Saints would be delightful.
- The winner of Cowboys-Giants could be facing the Falcons, if the Lions lose and Atlanta wins.
So watch those games, discuss them here and gear up for the Falcons game at 4:15 p.m. Enjoy!
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Cowboys and Giants...
play tonight I thought. Did I think wrong?
Correct sir.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
...torn
… I know that ATL would be hungry if they had to go back to New Orleans next week after they ran up the score on us last week…so I won’t be too upset if we get the #6 seed…BUT
…seeing the inconsistent play of both Dallas and New York makes me think we’ve got a lot better shot of going to either one of those places and coming out w/ the dubya…
so… @ 1 pm… go…Packers? (hurts to say that…)
I agree with you but, it's not going to happen.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
if ATL goes back into NO
I can see the same thing happening as last week, unfortunately.
I have The Fins and the Jags for my early games.
the suck. :(
"Everybody has a plan until they get hit" Iron Mike Tyson.
by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 12:09 PM EST reply actions
Rogers is sitting for the Pack today.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 12:31 PM EST reply actions
Tony Gonzalez signed a 1 year 7 mil contract extension...just to let you guys know
Panther Pride 'till I die.
AWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Why don't you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?" - Prince
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 1, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Man why did they flex the Falcons game til 4EST/1PST?
It’s gonna be a beatdown.
"Why don't you purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka?" - Prince
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 1, 2012 1:04 PM EST reply actions
Don't think we should rest them either way
They had their day off last Monday.
let's go saints!!!
beat them shitty kitties! make them ashamed to be seen in public!
Go away will 'ya
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Titans have a player down
on the opening kickoff…. ouch.
Wouldnt mind
Seeing Carolina break that clown’s leg.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
by DopeFalcons on Jan 1, 2012 1:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sad is going to your rivals blog while your team is playing
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Clown # 2
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by DopeFalcons on Jan 1, 2012 1:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
DET already in the redozne..
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Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions
and they score.
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by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
If that's Roddy they call a PI
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New Orleans
steam rolling on that first drive, good luck Panthers
Bone head
what a stupid safety
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New Orleans, here we come..
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
let's go rams!!!
beat them stinking niners! make them feel bad!!!
Steve Smith just made Greer look like he wears panties
"People in this country used to look at a successful person and ask what can I do to have that kind of sucess. Now a lot of people look at a successful person and ask what can I do to take what he has."
- Tommy Beam
that was rude
but we will still win.. esp if rams keep scoring
by HollywoodSaint on Jan 1, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
usually
i hate Steve Smith, but I will tolerate his behavior when he plays the Saints
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
Saints defense sucks
That’s how you beat them. It’s why they don’t stand a chance if they play the Packers in the playoffs
by cheshire falcon on Jan 1, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Man i love car offense
Man we need a freaking new OC.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 1:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Tony G
will be back next year, signed a 1 year extension for 7 mil
I hope we win a playoff and possibly a SB ring for him
He deserves it.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 1:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I doubt it
He will have been given some sort of signing bonus. I’m sure the team would need an assurance that he’d actually come back.
Newton is scary good
This game makes the ATL offense look so dated.
They have a real defense
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and no offense
i’d rather play San Fran than NO.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
They keep baiting him lol "were almost there tony! Just 1 more year! Give us 1 more year!
by Bigru3 on Jan 1, 2012 1:25 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Hahahaha I was thinking the same thing
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by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 1, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Nice that Tony will be back
But shouldn’t Grimes and Lofton be the priorities?
That was
exactly my thought
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their contracts
will be a little more complicated. As great as Tony is, I’m a little surprised by the amount.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Being that we've done a piss poor job developing anything behind TG I think he was a priority
Among a ton of other priorities like Lofton and Grimey.
Grimes might sign a long term contract
So it might take a while. Same thing with lofton.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 1:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's 35 though
And it’s not like we’ve done a good job developing players behind Lofotn and Grimes.
Wait'll next year
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they need to draft new LBs
those guys get injured every year.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
If we get a new OC and DC
We will be scary.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 1:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ain't happening sir
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 1, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It better
MM will probably get a HC job this year. So at least he will be gone.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Nobody's going to hire him Whyte Bier
just ’cause we want it to happen.
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i can see Jacksonville
his philosophy would work well with them.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Bills 14, Pats 0
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Whoa
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I want to get it next year
on ps3, it’s just so much money. I wish they would offer cheaper packages for just 1 team.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I know the monthly payments have started when my wife gives me the evil eye
And tells me “no! We can’t go get pizza this month OR next month OR next month!” then she calms down and we go get pizza.
Japs bomb Pearl Harbor
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just saw the game break
that was a very long 8 yard run
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
Stafford fumble, Pack
on Lion 45 after FG following first and goal at the three
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I bet.
I don’t think anyone was expecting this after the way the Bills have played lately.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Pack first and goal
Lions 9, Pack 3
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Touchdown Packers
10-9
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
Pack 10, Lions 9
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nice footwork on that int
terrible decision by Newton
So much for momentum
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THESE SAINTS
are looking UNSTOPPABLE!!! We playing LIGHTS OUT!!!
Then go spend some time with fellow Saint fans
None of us care
"The Dos Equis guys want me to be the least interesting man in the world" - Drama
Freeze him out. He has ZERO posts on Canal Street
I think he may be SeenthisB4
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Freeze him out
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You're a one man team
If/when someone breaks Drew Brees leg, you will hear me laughing all the way from Atlanta when you go from a 12 win team to a 2 win team.
I actually think i’d get a picture of Brees being carted off the field and hang it in my wall.
by cheshire falcon on Jan 1, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
now, now....
It is the NFL. they’ll probably set up some rule that allows him to still play
Or they'll just ban the player who hurt him for life
Cuz, ya’ know, Brees saved the city of New Orleans.
by cheshire falcon on Jan 1, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
You guys read about Pereira taking shot a Gruden
for comments he made in the game Monday night? Useless. I sure would like to hear Pereira give some clarity about “it’s not holding because it was a screen play” call.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:48 PM EST reply actions
Pereira is a douche
I don’t know why fox keeps him.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I just wish I could understand what constitutes a defenseless receiver
The players, fans, and officials have no idea what it is. If the “All-Knowing” Pereira could enlighten us, it would be most appreciated
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Me too.
Pereira said it was a helmet to helmet but that is not what was called.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Do you have a link or a summary of what it said?
I haven’t seen what you guys are talking about
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Here is an article I found
Click here
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
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Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
It was helmet to helmet
Did people not see the same play? Pereira explained it perfectly, the refs were right both times.
Yes, but it was called "hitting a defenseless player".
That is a different call.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Helmet to helmet is one penalty, defenseless receiver is another. Gruden’s point was that if the hit by Lofton was on a defenseless receiver, so was Jenkin’s. I would have no problem if the rule was helmet to helmet, although Lofton did not lead with his helmet which sets up a separate debate…
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
No it isn't
You are allowed to hit helmet to helmet. You are also allowed to hit a defenseless player. But you’re not allowed to hit a defenceless player helmet to helmet. That’s what Lofton did. It was a penalty, can people not just get over it.
They are not 2 distinct penalties
The penalty was for hitting a defenceless receiver with a helmet to the helmet. Obviously the referee didn’t explain it well enough, but it was a penalty.
You are allowed to tackle and hit a defenceless player. That is not a penalty. It’s about the way you hit them. Lofton did it illegally, hence why he was penalised and has now been fined with the benefit of video evidence. When the former rules chief says its a penalty don’t you think it might be time to accept that it was a penalty.
It was a penalty. No one has said differently.
We did say we are a bit confused by what constitutes a defenseless receiver.
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by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
A player who doesn't have a chance to make an act common to the game
Eg run, change direction, juke. Both Colston and Kelly were defenceless. But only Colston was hit illegally.
Ok, if you accept that premise
what about this play:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvRKHy0QWZE
Because I see a receiver who catches the ball, takes two steps, and turns upfield. That’s multiple acts “common to the game”, but the ruling on the field required a defenseless receiver.
I didn't say that call was correct
I said that both the Kelly and Jenkins calls were correct. That call was acknowledged as borderline, but because of Robinson’s history with the Eagles he was fined. Officials are told to err on the side of player safety anyway.
This is my thing, though
The NFL is so inconsistent with its application of rules that even if those particular calls are correct (I don’t, but that’s just me), you can pick out two plays that are almost identical that get opposite calls, fined, etc.
And as far as “erring on the side of player safety”, well it’s already been seen by anyone who follows the nfl that which side to err on depends on who’s playing.
The biggest example is players drawing fines on plays that weren't penalized
It means officials are either missing the plays during the games, or they didn’t think the play warranted a penalty. If a hit warrants a fine, it should definitely warrant a penalty IMO.
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
exactly
and if an action warrants a penalty by the Titans or the Falcons or the Browns or the Raiders, it warrants a penalty by any other team as well.
I don't think the NFL has favourites
The Falcons were the least penalised team in the league last year, remember. Is it more likely that the NFL decided to hate us overnight or that the team got sloppy and lost discipline due to the lockout?
yeah right
I have not seen a hit across the middle of the field this year that didn’t result in a defenseless receiver penalty. Lofton’s was not helmet to helmet…..I mean really many people saw the replay and have said the same thing. The call was not correct for Lofton and wasn’t called for Kelly.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
your'e also not allowed to lower your head
use it as a battering ram, or otherwise attempt to spear the defender, regardless of defenseless status or not.
The hit on Reggie Kelly I saw a saints player see Kelly attempt to catch the ball, lower his head, and spear him in the lower back, a play that could leave Kelly paralyzed for life.
Malcolm Jenkins lead with his shoulder
Take your Falcons glasses of and go and watch the plays again objectively.
And Lofton didn't lead with his head
Jenkins helmet made contact with Kelly’s back just as much as Lofton’s helmet did Colston’s
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Think what you want
It’s not my problem if you refuse to be objective. How about trying to actually understand the rules instead of complaining about them?
Jenkin's hit was a foul
according to the rules……according to Mike Piereira
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/mike-pereira-jon-gruden-monday-night-football-helmet-to-helmet-penalty-atlanta-falcons-new-orleans-saints-122811
He also contridicted himself!!!
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
According to Rich McKay, shoulder to helmet on a defenseless receiver is also acceptable
“It used to say he was somebody who had not completed the act of the catch,” explained competition committee co-chairman Rich McKay, president of the Atlanta Falcons. "Now it will give a receiver protection until he becomes a runner and has the opportunity to defend himself.
“We saw too many helmet-to-helmet or shoulder-to-helmet hits where the receiver has just caught the ball and has two feet on the ground and has not had a chance to protect himself.”
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Unacceptable*
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
That's not relevant
Because Jenkins didn’t hit shoulder to helmet. He hit shoulder to back. Pereira said himself that the Jenkins hit was textbook, the way the NFL is trying to teach players to hit. You can debate whether that’s right if you want, but it remains a fact that it was a perfectly legal hit.
That was in reference to your statement that hitting a defenseless receiver is la penalty on helmet to helmet
A shoulder to helmet hit is just as illegal as a helmet to helmet hit. From my understanding of what I am seeing, anything that is a hit on a defenseless receiver to his head is a penalty. Is this your understanding as well? And my problem with Pereira is his lack of maturity as an analyst. I want to hear why Gruden was wrong, not hear him called a blowhard and state he doesn’t understand the rules, a concept that clearly many people are struggling with.
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yes that's my understanding
But as I stated before I don’t understand how that’s relevant to either the Kelly or Colston hits. I personally love Pereira, but that’s probably because I live in the UK where officials have no accountability and don’t ever explain any of their decisions. To have an actual rules analyst is unprecedented. As well as that, I actually agree with what he said about Gruden.
It was relevant in helping me understand what the rule is
I’m trying to understand the rules better, and be as objective as possible. I guess I would have preferred if the official stated it was a helmet to helmet on a defenseless receiver. Neither the officials, nor Pereira were very effective in explaining what the rule is, so I was using the board as an opportunity to discuss what the rule is
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Freeze him out
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No PI on Harper? Typical.
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Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 1:57 PM EST reply actions
It's to be expected these days
I’m just wondering how obvious a penalty has to be before the refs will call it.
While we are on the topic of NFL discipline, does anyone think the fines are getting ridiculous?
Marshawn Lynch gets 10K for having skittles on his shoes, while the late hit ending the season of Russell Okung got 7.5k? Lofton, who I don’t believe has a history of bad tackles, gets 15K for his shot. Who decides the price of the fines and what makes them deserving?
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 1:58 PM EST reply actions
yeah, it's total crap
Goodell hands out fines for whatever he feels like. There are no written guidelines.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Goodell thinks there is only one "O" in his name.
"Everybody has a plan until they get hit" Iron Mike Tyson.
by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Pass int?
I swear the saints pay the refs off.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 1:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
you're not the only one...
Katrina Rule is always in effect when they play
Them and LSU.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
LSU not so much...
though the events that transpired when they played the Vols last year. What ever happened to the “opportunity for the defense to make substitutions if the offense does so”?
It seemed a might odd that they couldn't get a first down in the SEC game
for the first half and then they couldn’t be stopped in the second half. like someone went to the Dawgs locker room and said this can NOT happen. From the BCS people maybe. :)
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
It seemed like the biggest travesty in sports, to me.
How two halves could be so different. Everyone played it off as LSU being the better team, but that was such a disgusting turn of events I about swore off of football forever, like the divine wanted to kick me in the balls repeatedly.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
ehh
LSU really does make great adjustments at the half. Them and Alabama. If you look at most of their games this year, they suddenly put up points in the 2nd half and shut down the opposing offense.
We need to use Quizz like they use Sproiles
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ahhh nice to dream
now wake up
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How come they didn't stop play
for the record breaking performance for ten minutes?
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I thouht they said he broke Mannings record just now.
Brees. Who you talking about?
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Brady still has 84 yards before he breaks Marinos record
Former record
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh Brees just did one. For something.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think he was the 1st to go over 5000 twice
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Some kind of completions thing i think.
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by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Lions convert 4th and three down to G.B. 29
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Lions C. Johnson TD
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Lions 16, Pack 10
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My guess is yes.
They’ll want 10 wins and end on a high note.
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Ryan Grant screen pass 80 yrds. TOUCHDOWN
Pack 17, Lions 16
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We don't have 80 yards in screen yardage TOTAL
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To be somewhat fair
Our line is horrendous at blocking screens. It’s probably because it isn’t practiced but man they look lost doing it
Mike Bobo runs screens
so it’s not impossible
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17-17 Panthers just went down the field with little to no resistance.
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These kitties mean business!!!!
They are trying to beat them saints!
by HollywoodSaint on Jan 1, 2012 2:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Freeze him out
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After celebration penalty against Green Bay
Lions run kick into Packer territory FUMBLE Lions on challenge after ball awarded to G.B
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Green Bay ball!!
And the Lions are out of challenges for the game.
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They need SF to lose against the Rams
They are up 20-7 at the half
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
So they can have an even bigger broken heart when we whoop dat ass.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
thought they had nothing to play for
That was ridiculous by the Panthers D
What horrible defense
Lions INTERCEPTION
return into G.B. territory
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Coutu warming up for his fist NFL FG.
For you college homers. Oh and he plays for Buffalo.
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Lions first down G.B. 15
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That ball was in the air forever
dang Martin
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 2:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Gonzo resigned to a one year deal
Link on the front page. I’m happy, personally.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:26 PM EST reply actions
Best news of the day !
Go Gonzo !
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Lions need the lost challenge
as apparent TD is disallowed
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Offseason OC
for some reason we find ourselves in need of a new Offensive Coordinator. Who do you guys like? Personally I’d like Josh McDaniels but that’s me
Not against Bratkowski, our QB Coach
he did some good things in Cincy, including riding 85 and Housh to a few really good seasons on the arm of Carson Palmer.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm against him
only older guy I’d want is Turner but MM stays anyway.
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Could see that
you’re right they had some excellent seasons in Cincy and Matt Ryan has really come around late this season.
MM is our coordinator
and he’s going nowhere.
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Not buying it.
I think the team knows there’s a problem, but preaches stability so much, they’re above firing him midseason.
If someone doesn’t hire him, I don’t think he’ll be back. We need something different. The ire against MM will continually grow until he’s gone and he’s a head coaching commodity for some reason. I’ll probably be praying nightly for someone to take him away.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
If he interviews somewhere
I could see a situation where he is “encouraged” to take the job. As a whole the fan base is sick of him and the offense has been far too inconsistent for anyone’s taste this year. There is no question the talent’s there. It’s time to become an elite unit
He's been offensive coordinator
on a coaching staff that turned things around dramatically. He’s had one interview and a lot of people know him. He goes nowhere. Smitty is in his corner.
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The only problem
and this is something I mentioned in my MM post a few days ago is that a coaching change isn’t always for the better.
Because something different means risking what you had (which, admittedly, could be much better), you run the risk of it getting worse. I do think we’ll get better if we at least try someone else. We’ve still got plenty of years left in a lot of our players and I think we’re a perennial contender now. It’s all about ironing out the kinks at this point.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Andy reid, norv turner, todd clements
A couple coaches come to mind.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Reid pulling a Dennis Green.
Under a minute on their own 20, came out throwing and turned it over as Vick got crushed.
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Lions lost a TD on that no review or challenge allowed rule
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Jordy Nelson TD !
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Kyle orton looks like the guy from the Big Bang
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This close Packer game messing me up for fantasy football
Don’t know whether to start Roddy Julio TG Bryant Ice and Burner
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
All of them
"Everybody has a plan until they get hit" Iron Mike Tyson.
by CaptJackSparrow on Jan 1, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
You have all of them? I'm assuming you mean on separate teams
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I have 40 teams - 36 in playoffs
At least one Falcon on every team that made the playoffs
All Falcons benched at the moment assuming the possibility of a Lion win
Won’t be enough time to switch if Packer game goes down to the wire
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
......40......teams?
Holy smokes.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Lol yeah I need to get a life
But football is easy
I had 40 baseball teams too this year – now that is rough )
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
True, but it is a cool challenge
All the opponents who rode Rodgers to this point are freaking out today – and I am laughing at them
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Matt Flynn will get big money next year.
Sucks because I wanted him here as our backup.
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I think he is more likely to be like Matt Cassel than Matt Schaub. Just my guess though
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
they should just trade Rodgers and go with Flynn
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Why would he leave G.B. backup to come to Atlanta backup
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What?
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I would laugh really, really hard if they did that.
I would laugh harder if their backup was better. And then I would cry.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
So much emotion in one comment
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Its more McCarthy and weapons
Than Flynn. If your remotely accurate you can be productive in his system.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well
He’s largely unproven for the most part. The guy has had a couple of games where he looked solid but not enough to convince maybe the Washington, Seattle, and Jacksonvilles of the world that he can be a franchise QB.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
Congrats to MJD
It appears he will wrap up the rushing title today. Good for him. The only titles he will win down in Jacksonville will be individual ones.
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions
He's only 26
But playing for the Jaguars will likely age him quickly
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Really a shame he is stuck down there
probably my favorite non falcon.
Yeah me 2
When was the last time we drafted a top RB prospect.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
TJ Duckett?
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
MJD is cool
He has his own fantasy football show on Sirius – really knows his stuff
MJD predicted he would win the rush title this year and told everyone to draft him over Peterson CJ2K and the rest – he was right
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Should have thrown it to Megatron
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
When's the last time you've seen a Falcon that wide open
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No idea, since I'm not watching currently.
but I remember a Roddy TD a few weeks ago where he was pretty open in the end zone, of all places.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Today's game don't interest me except the Falcons and GB-Det game
Meh gonna go play some Skyrim (so addicting).
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by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 1, 2012 2:43 PM EST reply actions
I've heard that it is.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, yes yes yes yes yes!! One of the best games I've played
Such a huge game. I have barley played like 10% of the game, and I have around 20 hours put in.
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by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Mean 10
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by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Stafford missed the throw....idiot...thank God for him!
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I told you guys we should have drafted Graham
I have to like him. Da U
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Danke
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Why?
They’ve beat everyone else, They could at least do us the favor of beating just one more team for us.
Did you know the Falcons are the only team with two LBs in the top 15 tacklers in the NFL?
The Colts are the only other team with two players in the top fifteen (top ten actually), but their safety is the other player on the list
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:50 PM EST reply actions
Random trivia for your hearts content
The Bills-Patriots and Saints-Panthers games are capturing my attention so I did a little searching on ESPN Stats
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome LBs in Atlanta
Curtis and Spoon in particular
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Our LB's are probably are deepest core.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 2:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Did they just call a hold on the Saints
is that against the rules, someone should flag the refs
Damn this is long half
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1:52 and they're still not to the half
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Percy Harvin 95 all purpose yrds. first half
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The only thing cheering me up watching this Saints game
Is that they will probably lose one of Coltson or Nicks this offseason.
Yeah, we'll have our own losses
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Mia and NYJ are near the end of the 30s
and GB and Det are just at halftime
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 2:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
3rd
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 2:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why has their half been so long?
Lots of penalties and incomplete passes?
Yeah that and Schwartz used both challenges
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Matt Flynn has 280 first half passing yards
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Meh!
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 3:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Grimes out vs. Bucs
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That's fine
Bucs receivers are probably (just) worse than our remaining corners.
Gonna head to a sports bar to watch the game/other interesting afternoon games.
Have a good afternoon, fellas, and remember, no matter how bad we look, we’re still in the playoffs. :D
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by Caleb Rutherford on Jan 1, 2012 3:03 PM EST reply actions
Rams score
If Spags loses his job he should come here. We got some of the best strip club.
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 3:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That would be terrific
but I’d bet he goes back to the NFC East
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Saints doing everything they can
To get Drew the MVP, to bad it will come up short.
stats
in garbage time or garbage game should bear no weight in deciding who’s the MVP
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
I know
but throwing 5 times out of 6 just to get to the record with a 3-4 td lead is way too much. I’d take Brady’s or A Rod’s yards over Brees’
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Rodgers is the MVP
It’s only because his egregious loss was recently and Brees’ were earlier in the season(TB,STL) that there is even a discussion. If Brees had lost those games now and Rodgers had lost to KC in week 1 there wouldn’t even be a conversation.
Rodgers is MVP
Even though Flynn showing today dilutes that a lil
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
half the MVP voters
just look at which qb whose name they see all over espn has the best stats.
I doubt that
Considering the voters are the best 50 sports journalists in America.
Out of practice this week with the knee
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Probably a precaution.
We did OK without him, so it is a gamble they have to take.
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Nice! GB needs to score.
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by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Blew that chance at end of endless first half
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New Orleans game is a blowout
Switching to DET-GB
G.B. just int'd Stafford in red zone
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Allen close to breaking sack record
1 to go.
Nice
I hope he does it, I really don’t like Strahan for some reason
ALERT: Jake Delhomme may have to start a playoff game.
Thanks, 2012.
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You sir have just made that game must - see tv
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Is it possible for the Texans to make the playoffs
And Kubiak still gets fired?
by pierre02 on Jan 1, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Still waiting for Karma to kick in
and the Saints suffer a major injury
Not this week!
Let’s get them in the playoffs in the 1st quarter
Mark Sanchez is terrible
T-E-R-R-I-B-L-E
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 3:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
they have no class
plain and simple. Show some respect for the other team. That Colts game was the worse.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Right now
they are just padding Drews stats. Completely classless, I’ve never seen a team care so much about stats
Let them do it
more film for other teams to study
Brees now leads the league in TD passes
they are going to have a target on their backs in the playoffs
But so are the Lions
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They did we just can't take advantage of it
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Packers turning into the Raiders
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I wish fox would turn off the Saints-Panthers game
This isn’t worth watching
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions
The Saints are assholes
They care about stats so much. They did this to us, the Colts and the Panthers now. They deserve to get someone injured doing this.
by Mosugo on Jan 1, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Gronk passes Graham
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Rather have a "kill 'em" attitude than take what the other team gives you
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But
Throwing it constantly when you are up 30 is obvious stat padding
I totally agree
but Sean’s an asshole
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And molesting it
Jeffrey Dahmer was a Saints fan
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
there's a difference between "kill 'em"
and being completely classless and running up the score.
Packers have a kill ‘em attitude, but when the outcome of the game is certain, they don’t try to pad stats and utterly humiliate the other team. The Saints disrespect the other team.
and I'm not just limiting this to the Saints and NFL
when Steve Spurrier does it, I have the same opinion. If the Tennessee Vols did it, i’d have the same opinion (unfortunately they’re not up by enough very often that it could be considered running up the score)
Lions and Packers
does anyone know why that game is a quarter behind all the rest?
Tell you what I posted that at 2:51
and now we’re not even through the third. It’s like an American League baseball game. It never endeth.
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The Saints are playing purely for records right now...
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 3:32 PM EST reply actions
Every dog has its' day
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if you're wathcing that game
are the refs still siding with the aints?
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Who played Matt Flynn in their fantasy playoffs? Anyone?
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
My league ended last week
but I had nelson, he had a great year.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Had 280 at the half!
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Thank you Jordy!
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it's record day on fox
just want to show all the records being broken.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Jan 1, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Record? I believe the term is mp3
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See if Allen breaks the record
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Unbelievably it has taken forty minutes to play11 minutes of third qtr
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Saints are looking unstoppable!
by HollywoodSaint on Jan 1, 2012 3:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Freeze him out
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by FrozenFinger on Jan 1, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he is under a different name
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What's the story in that game?
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Sanchez just threw a RZ pick
When a score would have given them a lead late
Now they will likely be down 2 scores
with under 2 left, they are d-o-n-e done done done
Agreed
They should never have picked him that high after he started only 1 year in college.
Is it possible that Peter Carroll was right about Sanchez?
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That he wasn't ready for the NFL
And should stay in college.
That he wasn't ready for the NFL
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I bet Carrol takes Sanchez from the Jets
They already got Leon Washington
But but
2 straight AFC Championship games
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 3:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2 straight
being carried to the AFC championship game by an elite defense
I hate the Jets and Rex Ryan indescribably,
but that defense is absolutely amazing to do that with such an anemic offense.
it's what the AFC is all about
crazy defenses that carry their offenses through the playoffs
He had as little to do with those
as a QB possibly could
Sounds like
Joe Flacco’s playoff wins
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by a hooter's baby on Jan 1, 2012 3:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who dropped it?
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 1, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Pettigrew but it was knocked out
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He drops a lot
he must be up there with Roddy
G.B. - Det is the "mother-in-laws" tongue of NFL games
It never ends
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Yes but obviously there's
PLENTY of time left!
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Kamikaze-d it didn't they?
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This is going to be the first two day game in NFL history
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Gotdamn
Green Bay is trying hard to give it to Detroit. Two teams with no running game at all.
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49 unanswered points. ouch!
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by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 3:53 PM EST reply actions
who cares if we face the saints????
if you want to be the best you have to beat the best. Why avoid playing a team that will be along the road anyway?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Because we want to win at least 1 playoff game
We won’t do that if we play the Saints.
Yes it is
It’s called being realistic. The Saints destroyed us just last week. Blind optimism is not a good attitude. The Saints are a significantly better team than us.
Disagree
They have one all world player. How many players on the Saints do you think could start for the Falcons? Their OLine and maybe a few recievers. Thats it.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
Ryan played better than Brees on Monday night
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/12/28/re-focused-falcons-saints-week-16/
Yet they still beat us by 29.
Still a terrible attitude to have in sports
reality or not
Only if you're actually playing
As a fan it’s best to be objective, not delusional.
Tampa Bay loss coming back to haunt
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don't forget the
Bears loss, the Texans loss, both NO losses…
Yep the proof is in the pudding
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typical atlanta fan attitude
always settling for a meaningless win
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
How is a playoff win meaningless?
Would you honestly rather get blown out again by the Saints than beat the Cowboys?
the falcons have won playoffs games before
do we have any hardware to commemorate that?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
I'd rather settle for a meaningless win
than have to settle for a meaningless loss
by falconnuke on Jan 1, 2012 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No
But winning is always preferable to losing. Call it meaningless if you want but I know I personally would be much happier than 1-1 than 0-1 in the playoffs. If you want to think that every season is meaningless unless you win the Superbowl then you’re welcome to it. You’re just going to be disappointed almost every year.
I'd rather get momentum in the playoffs.
I mean no matter how well they play against TB, we won’t feel good as a team. Now a great win against Dallas makes NO look a lot more possible.
Wouldn't be along the road until the conference championship with a 5th seed,
You’d be looking at NFC east winner/San Fran/ GB or NO or Det at home
The 5th seed is what we want.
"NLDS or bust" - Bobby Cox
Proof that Rodgers should not be MVP
your backup puts the same stats up as you do
We haven't had an opportunity to see Brees backup
Because they’ve been so busy padding his stats late in blowouts.
ATL-TB thread is up.
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by armchair quarterback on Jan 1, 2012 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Ugh....come on Packers
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