Eyeing The Eagles: Team Speed Kills
The second game of the season is barreling down on us, so I thought it would be a good time to take a look at the Falcons’ upcoming opponent. You know them as the Philadelphia Dream Team Vickles Eagles.
This is unquestionably one of the toughest matchups the Falcons will face in 2011. The Eagles blitz frequently on defense and have an elite cornerback tandem. On the offensive side of the ball, they have fast receivers, a receiver who catches well out of the backfield and a scrambling quarterback.
That’s not to say the odds are insurmountable. I’m about as pessimistic as I get about the Falcons for this one, but they’ve pulled off wins against terrible odds before. If the offensive line came out and blocked Jason Babin & Co. into next week, I can’t say I’d be terribly surprised.
But we’re here to learn more about the Eagles, the team that every publication in America declared the winner of the off-season. There’s little doubt that Philadelphia is going to bring a damn good football team to the Georgia Dome. The question is, what will it take for the Falcons to beat them?
My big question, three smaller questions and a prediction are after the jump.
The Big Question
Can the Falcons deal with the Eagles’ team speed? That is the question.
We’ll start with Vick. As we’re all aware, he’s the league’s best scrambler, capable of turning a sure loss into a 15-yard gain. He’s guaranteed to try to make a run for it on more than one occasion against the Falcons, especially if only one guy makes it into the backfield.
How do you counter that? In my mind, you put an athletic linebacker on him as a spy. Sean Weatherspoon's well-publicized tackling woes aside, he's the obvious choice to do it. Stephen Nicholas would also be an option. The important thing is that whenever possible, there's a player dedicated to shadowing Vick. The risk of him taking off for a long gainer is high enough that the Falcons can't afford to do otherwise.
Let's say you manage to keep Vick in the backfield and throwing the ball. What of LeSean McCoy? He's a dangerous runner, yes, but the Falcons' run defense is generally stout. I'm more worried about a trapped Vick finding him in the flats, or the team utilizing him on screens.
Make no mistake, McCoy can burn. He's not as physical as Matt Forte, but he doesn't need to be. If the team leaves him open underneath, they then have to catch him. Given the Falcons' notable struggles with tackling of late and the inherent liabilities of their zone defense, McCoy is a huge threat.
So again, you put a guy on him, as much as is humanly possible. You gameplan for his speed and you recognize that he's going to get the ball when Vick is under pressure, assuming you can generate that pressure. If I'm Brian Van Gorder—and I have a glorious mustache—I don't send an all-out blitz without having someone in a position to get to McCoy, should he come out of the chaos with the ball.
If you shut down Vick on the ground and McCoy through the air, you still have to account for DeSean Jackson. He's had a handful of gaffes that have garnered attention over the last couple of seasons, but Jackson is a deadly wide receiver with crazy wheels. I want Grimes on that guy.
In short, the Falcons need to account for the Eagles' weapons and take steps to stop them. Negate that speed and you've got a much more manageable ballgame.
Three Smaller Questions
- How will the Falcons' receivers fare against a tough Eagles secondary? Any time you can field Nnamdi Asomugha, Asante Samuel and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie as your top three guys, you're doing something right.
So the Falcons will be challenged. Roddy White runs very crisp routes, as well all know, but Asomugha will match him step-for-step. He'll have to be physical with him. Samuel's a talented ballhawk who will give Julio Jones trouble. Assuming Harry Douglas plays, he'll have the superbly athletic DRC to go against.
So this won't be easy. Matt Ryan will have to be precise with his passes. He shouldn't be afraid to go after Asomugha, because as good as he is, he's the least likely to pick a pass out of anyone and Roddy is so good at getting separation. It would behoove the team to pick on the Eagles' linebackers, too. Jamar Chaney is the only capable one in coverage, so we could see a decent day from Tony Gonzalez. - Will the Falcons' line give Matt Ryan time? This is key. As we've seen time and time again, Ryan can put his throws right where he wants them if given even two seconds to read the field. When he doesn't get that time, he locks in and goes for short throws underneath.
If the ground game is working well, that might pass muster. But the Falcons will need to attack the Eagles a bit to loosen them up at the line, so Ryan's going to need that time. The offensive line, as we'll discuss later today, has to come ready to play. - Can the Falcons pass rush apply a ton of pressure to Vick? It would certainly help if they could. Obviously not having Jonathan Babineaux is going to complicate things somewhat, but the Falcons should be able to get a ton off the edge. Jason Peters is the best tackle on the Eagles and could give John Abraham fits, but the Falcons can also move him around.
With Peria Jerry, Ray Edwards and Kroy Biermann all pitching in, I have to think the Falcons will be able to generate some decent pressure.
Prediction
As much as I hate to do this, I had this game penciled in as a loss before the season, and I still think the Falcons will get edged out. I do think the offense will pick it up, but the defense will struggle a bit to contain Vick and McCoy.
Eagles 31, Falcons 24. What's your prediction?
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I say we break out the wishbone
They’ve got a good pass rush and able cover corners… let’s grind it out
A few minor gripes
The Eagles blitz frequently on defense
This actually doesn’t appear to be the case anymore. The Eagles blitzed on something like 15% of pass plays against the Rams. And they blitzed a similar amount in the preseason. Under new DC Juan Castillo, this Eagles defense appears to be a more straight-up, rush-4 defense.
If the offensive line came out and blocked Jason Babin & Co. into next week,
This is the first time in years I’ve seen the Eagles defensive line referred to anything other than “Trent Cole & co.” It’s actually kinda nice to see since Trent’s been the best (still is) and virtually only player on the line in a long time. Nice to see another player referred to as the lead guy in the unit, but just giving you a heads up. Trent Cole isn’t too shabby either.
How do you counter (Vick’s scrambling)? In my mind, you put an athletic linebacker on him as a spy.
Every time a team tried this last year they got burned pretty badly. Vick is just too good in the pocket now to take another defender out of the equation. It seems like the best way to stop Vick and the offense is to confuse the heck out of him by continuously blitzing and moving around the LOS.
Other than those things, your post sounds pretty good. You nailed it with Jamar Chaney and the LBs. So far, Chaney seems to be the only bright spot of that unit. If you establish the run, attack the middle of the field, and keep Vick off the field, it could be a close game.
Nice write-up.
Wow, I was writing my post the same time you submitted yours and our first 2 points are almost identical haha.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
I also agree with the Vick point you bring up. Our offensive line was decent the second half, but in the first half there was a lot of pressure. When the Rams blitzed us and got free runners at Vick, he was still making superman type plays (hence the 98 yds.) It’s truly a dichotomy, because when you give him time, he can be accurate and bomb balls to recievers anywhere on the field, yet when you blitz him, he can use his wheels and frustrate and gas the D. I think the #1 priority in stopping Vick is containing any running lanes he sets his eyes on and getting consistant pressure….though I guess easier said than done.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
I should have given Cole more credit
He does scare the hell out of me. Ironically, I think due to free agency your average fan is probably more familiar with Babin. I do think Cole is better.
Thanks for correcting me on the first point, and you raise a good point on the third. I’m just a big believer in ’Spoon’s athletic ability, but you’re probably right. Vick tends to get away.
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Thats why the teams that had success spying Vick used...
a safety or nickelback. This would be a perfect opportunity to bring in one of the new vets at NB and spy vick from the center of behind the line of scrimmage, drift with him and pick off any short passes he tries to throw on the run, Plus you can use hin to blitz vick, and under pressure he is not very accurate.
One other point I’d like to make about our seondary matching up with their receivers. I would rather see DR AND Moore double covering Jackson, with Grimes on Maclin. Reason being, with DJ double covered you remove him from the gameplan, and if we get anykind of pressure on vick and he throws to Maclin, who will appear to be open, and Grimes will get a couple picks. Jusy my thoughts.
Now Gentlemen, get your butts up, and get back on that horse! You have no choice. The expectations are running much higher this year.
by ATLsince1972 on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
And yes,
Pound Turner at them as much as we can, bring in Quizz to run screens along with Snell so they dont know exactly whats coming, cuz sometimes you hand it off to Quizz with Snell being the lead blocker. With their drfensive front not as good as the Bears, and if they sit back in Zones instead of blitzing Ryan, their in trouble.
Now Gentlemen, get your butts up, and get back on that horse! You have no choice. The expectations are running much higher this year.
by ATLsince1972 on Sep 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
ANd forgot to add about our spy on vick
He can also keep an eye out for McCoy slipping out of the backfield as well. You may even play a 4-4-3 type defense with the NB coming down beside Lofton at MLB and thus allowing lofton morre freedom to just reacte to what he sees and just trys to blow ud the timing of their plays and fill his gap responsibilities better thus shutting down their running game, then Spoon and th NB can drop back whent hey start therowing around and pick off quick slants, OR both rush vick and cause a bad throw or sack and TO.
Now Gentlemen, get your butts up, and get back on that horse! You have no choice. The expectations are running much higher this year.
by ATLsince1972 on Sep 15, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Run the rock
As much as I wanted to see how explosive our offense can be, this is a game where we need to pound the ball and keep Philly off the field. I had us penciled for a loss as well but I think if we keep it close, we may have a shot at winning. If we get behind, it may be a wrap.
agree
but with a comment – we need to control the clock, AND make sure we have a Red Zone efficiency of at least 1 TD and 1 FG in 2 red zone trips. if we can’t put up points on the board, controlling the clock won’t make the difference, because Philly has a quick high scoring offense.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
Must run the ball (clock)!!!
If our defense gets gassed, then their speed will take over the game and open up big plays. If we stay fresh on D and keep Vick guessing, then we stand a good chance to come out victorious. As much as I hate to say it, BVG’ s zone blitz system could actually help us in this one.
A couple of things as an Eagles fan:
If the offensive line came out and blocked Jason Babin & Co. into next week, I can’t say I’d be terribly surprised.
Trent Cole >>> Babin. Cole is probably (don’t wanna sound like a homer, but…) a top 3 DE. He can do it all. Rush the passer, Play the run, and doesn’t give up. He’s a BEAST
Also, if you were to ask die hard Eagles fans, especially over at BGN, I think the majority of them would say that LeSean McCoy is our best offensive player. Why not Desean or Vick or Maclin? He’s incredibly consistant (rushing and catching), very dangerous in space, fast, shifty, elusive, etc. etc. Seriously, the guy doesn’t make bad plays, in fact he makes good plays out of bad ones. Maybe some of my BGNers will disagree with me, but I believe his ceiling is much higher than Brian Westbrook’s, and that’s saying A LOT.
Also, I think the best offensive gameplan for the Falcons it to give it to Turner and Gonzalez as much as possible simply because of our VERY good secondary and VERY bad LB corp. Our run D isn’t as bad as advertised, but it is still average at best. Also why I say this offensive gameplan will work is because of our pass rush. It’s good…VERY GOOD. We rushed only 4 guys probably 70%-80% of the time against the Rams and got 5 sacks, 2 turnovers, a defensive TD, and abused Bradford all day. That’s why I expect you guys to give the ball to Turner to gash us and then a few playaction passes in the flat for short routes should work. I don’t think we’ll beat you guys as much as most people seem to think, but I do think the Eagles win…28-20.
Good luck on Sunday, and lets hope both teams come out healthy!
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
by immynimmy on Sep 15, 2011 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I think the key is going to be establishing Turner and the short game
To the point where they can afford to take a couple shots. If Harry Douglas plays, I’d like to give him a crack at DRC down the field.
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Yeah, Douglas could be an X factor. Good slot player always seem to have a knack of getting key catches and key moments. DRC though is a good corner, is only an above average guy when covering TEs and Slot receivers. And Turner scares the hell out of me haha.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
He hardly saw the field last week
but that’s not saying much seeing as the Rams hardly ever came out with 3 or more WRs due to a lack of talent there and our mediocre run defence, so we’ll have to see against you guys.
Right now I think the CB situation is like this;
-Hanson is the 4th CB, only coming in for the Dime or in case of injury.
-Asante will always stay on the outside, except in very rare, obvious passing situations where he might drop back as a freelancing safety. He’d be useless in the slot.
-Nnamdi is the most versatile of the group, and we were told by the coaches during training camp that he may be used in a way similar to the way the Packers have used Woodson recently. Although we’ll probably leave him on the outside most of the time.
-DRC can fill in wherever he’s needed in any given package.
I want JJ involved like the way Carolina used to utilize Steve Smith.
If they play off of him at all, I want that quick lateral to go out to him. They might have great cover corners, but none are great tacklers (NA slightly above average). JJ’s size can easily break one tackle. If they man up, like I think they will (to stop the run), then that one broke tackle could be all he needs. I remember games, albeit not recently, that play to Smith beat us by itself.
I just want to chime in on this point for a quick second.
Also, if you were to ask die hard Eagles fans, especially over at BGN, I think the majority of them would say that LeSean McCoy is our best offensive player.
This is just not true. Lesean’s an amazing player, and hes only 23 years old. But him having a break-out season the same year that Vick gets the start is no coincidence, the defenses have to focus so much attention to #7 that it opens up running lanes that someone with Shady’s speed, quickness, smarts can take advantage of.
I love the kid. But hes not better than Mike Vick right now.
Eagles... :)
it will be a battle of playcallers
this game is not about who’s faster or more talented. it’s about playcallers – how creative they are and whether they can make adjustments during the game.
history says Andy Reid and his assistants always had the edge against Smitty & Co. in creativity, so the only way we can win it is if MM and (to a slightly lower degree) BVG come up with something totally unexpected. it was the Baltimore game last year when MM came up with a plan nobody expected – everybody thought we’d run, and we came our slinging the ball. what are the chances we see a different MM and a different BVG? I don’t want to be over optimistic on this one, but I feel they’ve had the whole offseason to think about it, knowing that the opposition had their number for many years.
I think in the worst case scenario, Vick will come out throwing the ball and going after our secondary. passes to Maclin and DeSean if we play zone, and a screen to McCoy if we’re too agressive. we’ll be one or two missed tackles away from falling behind by two scores. and then we face the challenge – overcoming big deficits when the opposition has good pass defense. something we’re never good at. that’s when they unleash McCoy as a runner.
in the best scenario, we will not only run the ball well and use screens (!!!!), but will actually score. we need a solid game from our young punter too.
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prediction!
31-27 Falcons. Somehow I still have faith in our playcallers.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
I' feeling strangely optimistic
I think it has to do with the Peregrine Falcon that lives in my neighborhood. I’ve seen him around a few times and hear him quite often. Yesterday, he was calmly perched in a tree not 20 feet from my back door. He just looked at me for a minute before ‘rising up’ to take back to the air.
Do you live up north?
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Sep 15, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Still boss you have a random falcon in your neighborhood. All I have are drunk, high frat kids.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Sep 15, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
A comment and a question.
First, how do you guys like Jaquizz Rogers? I remember when we had in on our squad last year in TC, he was awesome. Kinda small, but still very powerful for his size, shift, elusive and good running technique. I was REALLY a big fan of his and pretty bummed out when he had to cut him.
Also, how is your safety play. I know a DeCoud is pretty darn good but I know nothing about your other safety (William Moore?). Anyway, what are theyre strengths and weaknesses? It seems like the biggest weakness is size, is that accurate?
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Are you talking about the Jaquizz Rogers that....
we drafted as the145th pick in the fifth round of the 2011 NFL Draft?
Typical Eagles fan. See’s a speedy athletic guy, and assumes he was/is an Eagle.
Joking of course, but where’d you get that from? LOL.
by BabyGoatEater on Sep 15, 2011 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
WOW. I was thinking of someone completely different. That was embarresing lol.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
I like Jaquizz
I think his height is very deceiving. People will underestimate him.
WOW. I was thinking of someone completely different. That was embarresing lol.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
"They just tried to do a criss-cross route or something. I just hid a little bit, saw the ball in the air and I do what I do - go get the ball."
-The President CB
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
Since everyone else pointed out the Jaquizz mistake, I'll talk safeties.
Thomas DeCoud was actually rather underwhelming thus far, and I don’t say that due to the two dropped interceptions (they both bounced right to him, you have to make that play at least once…). From a TV’s perspective, he simply appears out of position in the passing game. I’m not sure how much is attributed to scheming or not, but there comes a point where a player’s instincts at safety need to get him around the ball in the passing game. DeCoud needs to start making some plays consistently, or he may be losing his spot to James Sanders soon.
William (C4) Moore on the other hand has a reputation around here for being a big hitter, and he tends to back it up on the field. Lots of potential, and can make some nice ball-hawking plays, I’m personally much less worried about Willy-Mo than I am DeCoud.
Sorry but you're contradicting yourself there
Why criticize Decoud for his lack of coverage (which is mostly a fallacy, btw), and then praise WillyMo. I love them both, but WillyMo is much more of a liability in coverage than Decoud. Decoud has yet to make impact plays (TOs), but he has become a solid coverage S and really made some solid tackles last week (tackling being a hopefully past weakness)
I don't have a lot of optimism
about this game. Mostly because we seem to have a lot of key injuries and they have owned us when we were healthy. I have HOPE. Lotsa hope.
Man all you guys being pessimistic is giving me one of those counter karma feelings
Hopefully Vick tears it up tho, thats my feeling
sometimes we question s**t that there is no anwer to but I just built a house on I dont give a f*k avenue
Die hard Falcons' fan.........
But I just don’t think we’re built to compete with a team like the Eagles (Saints or Packers for that matter). This game will either be a blowout or a shootout, either way we’re most likely going to be on the losing end of it. Looking at the rest of our schedule, I’m starting to think maybe we should have kept that 2012 first round pick, especially if we’re not going to use the player we traded all those picks to get.
Maybe the Falcons prove me wrong but I just don’t see it, with the injuries and all. If I weren’t still somewhat of a Vick’s fan I probably wouldn’t watch this game.
Oh yeah, Vick biggest weakest is reading safeties, always has been. If you’re reading this BVG, move your safeties around a bit and try to throw him off and you’re guaranteed to get an interception (unless Decoud gets his hands on it).
Prediction
42-10 Falcons
It's all about Process...
Nice
Allow 30 points against the Bears, but only allow the Eagles to score 10 points…. that’s how you Rise Up!
by dirtybirdy84 on Sep 15, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
copied and pasted from other thread
I too saw this game as the worst possible game we could have played. And I see the Falcons coming out this week and actually showing up and beating the Eagles, barely but still win. With the Eagles pass rush not near as good as the Bears is, I see Ryan hitting some big plays on them. We’ll get hit for some big ones too, but Ryan gets the ball last and leads us to the come from behing victory with a TD pass to RW on the last play of the game. We win 31-30. We get the ball first to start the game, go straight down the field, with Ryan hitting JJ for a 56 yard TD pass, then first eagles series, Grimes pick 6’s Vick and whamm it’s 14-0 withim the first 4 mins of the game, then we basically have a few bonehead plays causing them to take a late lead at 30-24 on a super play from Vick, but he leaves too much time on the clock for Ryan and Co – and at 1:43 left, we all know how it ends after that.
So falcons in 31-30 and play with a chip on their shoulder all game long and put some licks on people. Vick is sacked 4 times and we pick him twice. Ryan throws 2 TD’s, MT gets one , and Grimes one on defense,
Fingers crossed, praying my butt off.
Now Gentlemen, get your butts up, and get back on that horse! You have no choice. The expectations are running much higher this year.
Pass rush will be better this year if anything
Lineman will be allowed to fly up the field unlike a year ago when they had two gaps to worry about before really going after the QB.
As several people have said above, you guys should pound the ball against us between the tackles where we’re weakest, control the clock, get a couple of scores and hope your defence can make some plays.
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Seeing as we’re at the midweek point, perhaps it’s time to take a gander at the Eagles upcoming opponent to see what we might expect out of this weekend’s game. On Sunday, the Eagles play the Atlanta Falcons in Michael Vick’s big return to the city he once reigned over. Remember, last year Vick was injured against his former team and Kevin Kolb led Philadelphia to victory in his absence. In preparation for the matchup, I went back and watched the Falcons week one loss against the Bears. Honestly, I didn’t find much to be worried about, but that is only one week.
Let’s start on defense, where the Falcons looks average at best. They mostly played a vanilla 4-3 scheme with infrequent blitzing. The Football Outsiders Almanac said that the Falcons had more zone blitzes than anyone else in the NFL in 2010, but I didn’t notice that. Not that I would mind if they did. Defensive end John Abraham, like Trent Cole the last few years, is far and away the best pass rusher they have and dangerous off the edge. Dropping him back into coverage only helps the offense. The Falcons defense added Ray Edwards in the offseason, and at his size he’s hard to miss. But even against Bears rookie tackle Gabe Carimi, Edwards made little impact. Sean Weatherspoon is a tremendously fast linebacker, but missed a few tackles that even Asante Samuel would be ashamed of.
One big takeaway: Atlanta had an especially hard time covering Bears running back Matt Forte on screen passes. Forte had two long gains, one for a touchdown and one that should have been a touchdown if not for a bad officiating call that put him out of bounds at the one yard line. LeSean McCoy must be licking his lips. The Falcons offense has far better weapons on paper than the Rams did, but they barely registered because Matt Ryan looked so mediocre. The typical pass play involved Ryan dropping back with plenty of time and then dumping the ball off to the open man underneath. I’m all for taking what the defense gives you, but Roddy White and Julio Jones were relative nonfactors against the Bears.
For a while I thought it might just be the Bears cover two scheme on defense, but then I checked the stats from last year. Ryan was 26th among quarterbacks in yards per attempt (6.5) and 28th in yards per catch (10.4). And while he’s decisive with the football, Ryan isn’t particularly mobile. That’s especially bad considering his left tackle Sam Baker had nine blown blocks in 2010 according to the FOA, third-most in the league. Overall, this looks to me like an overrated team. Last year Atlanta won 13 games but their Pythagorean wins were closer to 11. They don’t look significantly better, while the Eagles have improved substantially since their 2010 victory.
All in all this will be a much more difficult test than week one, and any further lapses in run defense or tight end coverage won’t make it easy on the Eagles defense. But if those holes can be patched up, I don’t see much reason to expect anything other than a 2-0 start.
by dirtybirds233 on Sep 15, 2011 11:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Anybody else read the 'Ask the Falcoholic' thread on BGN?
I think I lost a lot of brain cells. Some of those guys make the Saints trolls seem like geniuses.
Talk about hostile environment.
I did read it
Of course, I was in it.
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by Dave Choate on Sep 15, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm impressed
that you were able to deal with all of them. Well done.
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No kidding.
Pretty vicious over there.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Sep 15, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you guys understand
they only appear vicious b/c they’re from Philly, the Mecca of all sports towns. Unlike us, they truly know what being a fan means. They understand that we’re overrated, and always have been. On the other hand, the Eagles are a team that is constantly dismissed by the national media, and receives a profound amount of disrespect. Despite all that, they remain fans. Wow, we should really just appreciate that we can even talk with them.
by KMarch on Sep 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Lol you guys are funny
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they only appear vicious b/c they’re from Philly, the Mecca of all sports towns
Ehh. Philly is one of the best sports towns in the US. There is No sure bet #1, everyone is each specific city is going to think there city is the best.
Unlike us, they truly know what being a fan means.
Yeah they only sell those “Official Fan Rulebooks” in Philly Barnes and Nobles…
They understand that we’re overrated, and always have been.
Yeah, two people on that one thread were way off base and said that you guys are over-rated. Included me in that group, but not to the extent the other guys were saying. But thats just our(3 people)opinion, not the whole fanbases.
On the other hand, the Eagles are a team that is constantly dismissed by the national media, and receives a profound amount of disrespect.
If you really payed attention youd see how much the media is dismissing us. Its ridiculous even for a unbiased 3rd party. Check it out.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks/_/week/1
Week 1 vs rams it was 6-4 in favor of us. The Rams are TRASH, and were stacked. How is it even close?
Week 2 only 2 people have us winning vs you guys. The media hyped us up for like 2 weeks, then something happened, and they went against us. Its really weird. This is not un-warranted.
Eagles... :)
If we send LB's at Vick
Were gonna be in big trouble, I say we play in dime formation the entire game to match their speed . The rams had success blitzing their corners.
by Dirtybirdz90 on Sep 15, 2011 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
To the (hopefully small) contingency of Turner-bashers who cropped up from under their respective rocks in post-game threads last week...
Winning this game is as simple as this: If Turner gets less than 25 touches, we lose; 25-29 it could go either way; 30 or more, we win. Book it!
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unfortunately
you can reverse reason and consequence here. if Matt Ryan and Co. are successful (and not just Turner) and we are ahead, it makes sense to use heavy dose of MT – and you get the desired number of carries for him. but if we fall behind too soon, and have to play catchup, there won’t be any place for Turner’s runs, no matter how good he is.
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I think we're all missing the point
The playmakers won’t matter unless the line of scrimmage is disrupted. Vick has historically struggle against a good pass rush and blitzes. Playing at the Dome will exponentiate the problems of the Eagles o-line and I give the advantage to the falcons.
What the falcons should do is run the ball often, but limit predictability!! With the the talk about the falcons needing to air it out, they really need to run this game. Although I still think they need to air it judiciously because that opens up the run more. I mean really…if the Rams can run rough shot over the eagles that game….why can’t we?
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
Abe is going to be critical in the PHI game
If Abe can get consistant pressure on Vick and force him to run to his right that can disrupt his timing. Possibly running him toward RE or a DB/S/LB rushing off the left edge.
IF BVG would run a S/DB stunt inside of Abe that would put a lot of pressure on Vick.
Also don't count out Asomugha's ball hawking abilities
He may not have many picks, but I think that can be chalked up to the fact the ball isn’t barely thrown to him. He had 8 picks in 06 and from then he has been considered a shutdown corner who just doesn’t get passes thrown his way. Also I hate to say it but I think he’s still getting better.
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Probably true but...
That`s probably true but if the line can`t keep the rush off Matt it won`t matter. Another game like week 1 and he`ll either be in the hospital with a concussion or on the bench having thrown 3 ints or 2 fumbles.
Comin` on like a herd of turtles.
by wierd flunky on Sep 15, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I say run the ball heavily out of 3 wide sets.
Keep that “dream” 2ndary out getting hit by Turner and Snelling. After a little while of that, the only thing that they will shut down is the training room.
Yup. Thats the only way i see you guys getting a W on sunday. If Turner and your RB’s have a monster game. If their rippin off 5 yards each carry then were screwed.
But….if you guys fall behind, and you guys call a couple run plays and they go nowhere, and those fans start to boo a little bit. Then Matty Ice is gonna have to throw the ball, and thats how this team was built. To play with a lead.
The other team is in a position where they have to throw(down 10+ 4th quarter, or 17+ 3rd quarter) then our d-lineman(Cole, Jenkins, Babin) can do what they do best and get after Ryan. With Nnamdi-Asante-DRC covering the 1st, 2nd, 3rd reads…
Gonna be a good game. Hyped up the ass. But a good game.
Eagles... :)

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