Falcons-Ravens Postgame Thread: A Pre-Season Loss, But So What?
by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2011 10:55 PM EDT
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PrintThat game was ugly with a side of boring.
I put "so what?" in the title because this game meant so little on so many levels. The starters barely played, neither team put an enormous amount of effort into calling tricksy plays and John Parker Wilson was like a zombie out there.
I will say that Antone Smith probably just made this football team, and guys like Kamaal McIlwain and even Robert James helped their cases. That will be what matters when the dust settles on this one.
Discuss! You'll find a storm of recaps coming your way starting tomorrow morning.
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Thank God the preseason's over
that’s all I have to say
"What happened yesterday is history. What happens tomorrow is a mystery. What we do today makes a difference - the precious present moment."- Nick Saban
by Richie Grogan on Sep 1, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
HALLELUJAH !!
Bring on Chicago…
I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures.
--Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States.
Antone Smith was definitely a bright spot.
He ended up with 158 yards (114 rushing, and 44 receiving). The entire offense produced 343 yards for the game. So, Antone Smith accounted for 46% of the offensive yardage production.
I'm overjoyed
When I think that the next game is the season opener!! Btw guys, for a little refresher, Colts went 0-4 in the PS the year they won the Super Bowl.
by dirtybirds233 on Sep 1, 2011 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The Colts have been going 0-4 in Preseason Games for a while now
The Power of Peyton does that to teams
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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Sep 1, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Colts went 0-4 in the PS the year they won the Super Bowl
Thanks for pointing that out. I was curious whether it had been done before.
colts make a regular habit of it
may i also point out in recent past, preseason has almost been a guage of how a team does but in reverse. 2008 lions, 2008 colts various other teams i cant be bothered listing or remembering but i saw before in an article somewhere
Please read Turner_The_Burner and my Best case/Worst case analysis of the upcoming week
Pats went 0-4 the year they went 16-0
And as said above, the lions went 4-0 when when they went 0-16
by dirtybirds233 on Sep 1, 2011 11:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
^^THIS^^
I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures.
--Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States.
Pats went 2-2 the year they went 16-0
then 0-4 in 2008 – Preseason means nothing
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Really?
I coulda sworn they went 0-4. But regardless, it truly is nothing but a scope for coaches to figure out who to cut.
by dirtybirds233 on Sep 2, 2011 12:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If I took much from this game
It’s that Rey Edwards looks good to go for the start of the season. I was a bit worried about him after he didn’t play in the first two preseason games, but having him ready is definitely good news.
My buddy and I just decided that the braves would be set if we could get Matt Kemp, Jose Reyes, and Albert Pujols.
by willlinn on May 17, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
by Bronn on Sep 1, 2011 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Bear Woods looked good to me.
How’d he look when he played? I only saw half the 4th quarter and he wasn’t in when I left.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Sep 1, 2011 11:08 PM EDT reply actions
Well...
on the west coast the Colts game was more important… :-/
Was wondering how woods did? I hope he sticks, I am really liking this guys playing. Knew nothing about him before the pre-season and I am impressed with him!!
I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures.
--Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States.
Here are some positives I'll take away from this dreadfully boring game:
- The starting D line looked really good, even with Abe’s sitting this one out. Big Play Ray v2 & Duffman brought consistent pressure around the ends.
- Grimes had yet another pick.
- Julio had a nice end around, with an even better block by Redman.
- The offense seems to have a new found liking to screen passes, and have been successful with them. I think we’ll see quite a few screens to Quizz this year.
- Smith now seems like a lock to be the 4th string halfback.
- Bosher can definitely punt it a long way. He even had a touch back on 1 of the 2 kickoffs we had during the game. I’m feeling alright with Bosher and Bryant handling kickoffs, FG’s, and punts.
What was amazing to me about that end-around
is how early JJ slowed down and new he’d need both those blockers to get some good yards.
Ravens fan here.
Boring ass game. Good luck. Hope to see you guys in the SB, and I hope we get to finally settle who’s the better QB of the ’08 draft.
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I think a Falcons-Ravens SB matchup would be awesome.
It’s a safe assumption to say that game would be the exact opposite of tonight’s snooze-a-rama.
God I hope so.
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I wish this had been the 2nd or 3rd preseason game, rather than the 4th.
I’ve been wanting to see how the Vonta Leach / Ray Rice duo has been doing. Leach may be the only blocking fullback in the NFL better than Ovie Mughelli.
At this...
point, I guess I didn’t miss much by not being able to see it…
I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures.
--Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States.
Yeah So What Dave,
But from what I’ve seen overall in the preseason, this was totally unacceptable to me. At least try to win one friggin’ game, I don’t care if it’s preseason or not. They better be ready for next week, and the season to come, or it’s gonna be a long one to say the least, and I agree with Richie Grogan, Thank God the preseason is over! I was satisfied overall with the offense, and the first and second team d. Special teams with the execption of Matt Ice Water Bryant, was awful for the most part. I may be speaking more emotionally at this point, but it’s time to get heads out of butts and start to take things seriously, I saw a lot of loafing in the preseason. Been through way too many seasons since the 70’s, time to win this thing. Your right, so what, it’s preseason! Us as Falcon fans, need to worry about one team: The Falcons, not the Eagles, or the Saints, or whoever, just the Falcons. Yes the game was friggin’ BORING as hell, I was hanging with my kids during the game, criminy!!
These are not the games your looking for...
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by Blood_Talon on Sep 2, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Don't feel bad.
The Chiefs were 0-4 in the preseason as well.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Sep 1, 2011 11:22 PM EDT reply actions
The 0-16 Lions were 4-0 in the preseason. #preseasonmeansdick
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Yep.
Just trying to ease the masses here.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Sep 1, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Colts didn't win their first till last night...ask me how I know that!!
I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures.
--Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States.
Once we win opening day,
These last 4 games will be completely forgotten.
Just relax. Be amazed thinking about how awesome an offense with Matty, Roddy, JJ, Gonzo, Turner, Quizz, and HD will be, and dream of Ray Edwards eating Jay Cutler.
no excuses
the falcons don;t have any excuses for tonight s game i really think that they didn t won t to win, they didn;t show much of nothing. but they could have given a little bit more of a effert maybe they are playing possum. or 1 2 3 red light i don’t know
by east side steve on Sep 1, 2011 11:26 PM EDT reply actions
Is half of the starters not playing not an excuse?
by FlyYouFalcons on Sep 1, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No excuses are needed to lose a preseason game.
It’s not a real game. It’s purpose is to put players in certain situations that will come about in real play.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Sep 1, 2011 11:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
If we ever
Have a JPW Situation in real play…
by FlyYouFalcons on Sep 1, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
After tonight we know that can't happen.
That’s what its for to find out where we are week, not where we are strong.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Sep 1, 2011 11:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Personally...
I think we should have kept the Sausage King and let JPW stick his thumb out for a ride to the next town…neither one did very good though, but that’s just me.
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by Blood_Talon on Sep 2, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
no they should be putting on a more convencing effert
by east side steve on Sep 1, 2011 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
They were just trying to not get injured
Chill out
they have over a week of time before the next game they show more to the fans , i know they have only been practicing for four weekand they really didn t do much during the strike, but show the fans somthing
by east side steve on Sep 1, 2011 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
Another speling fale!
Geez…that’s bad.
by DirtyBirdTakeover on Sep 2, 2011 1:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This game was so boring in the 4th I had to change the channel to Jersey Shore.
TNT should've treated Lebron's return to Cleveland game like 2k11 and cut the game off after the Cavs were down by 30. lol
by Krobify on Sep 1, 2011 11:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think if nothing else we can take away that:
A) Grimes needs almost no time to pick of any below average QB’s, he has a gift
B) Our starting team is ready to play, today seemed to tell us that Edwards, Bosher and anyone else who is starting, is ready to play at a high level right away.
C) Antone Smith is our 4th string RB and can make some good plays when given a shot.
D) Jones and Rodgers adds not only explosiveness but a couple new plays we have been lacking in the last couple years. ie. the end around and the rb screen.
E) we have depth at corner. With Grimes and Robinson as 1 and 2 we have Franks, Hayden, Owens, Walls and McIlwain (I guess thats the order) who can fill in the other roles behind them. Unfortunately I doubt we will keep anymore then 6, maybe even 5
Please read Turner_The_Burner and my Best case/Worst case analysis of the upcoming week
2007 16-0 Pats
They were 2-2 in the preseason.
by Thrashy Thrashy on Sep 2, 2011 12:05 AM EDT reply actions
Wait...
They went 0-16 in the preseason.
by Thrashy Thrashy on Sep 2, 2011 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Real winners of Preseason.
In Preseason would want to know any weakness so that it can be fixed. In Regular season you cover the weakness if any with your strength. The real winners of the preseason doesn’t need to win any game. The team with good preseasons typically do these things well.
1. Talent evaluation: Throw these young guys in tough situations and see who steps up. Falcons might end up finding real value players in Cliff Mathews and Darin Walls.
2. Competition: Make the players compete for starting positions and decide starting positions. Falcons probably got the message on Nickel back and lack of depth in Secondary.They rather go sign players now than realize in the regular season.
3. Practice: With unusually short offseason, MS said he ran some plays in the PS games which are usually done in Practice or OTA’s.
4. Coaching staff: It’s a good time to evaluate the coaching schemes. MM should now know that an occasional screen is better than running down the middle all the time. Special Teams coverage needs lot of tweaking .
Last 4-5 years Detroit Lions would have been number 1 Seed in NFC if you go by Preseason record alone.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Sep 2, 2011 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Did Chef Boyardee JPW
Score more points for the Ravens than they did tonight?
by birdwatch on Sep 2, 2011 12:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Did any of our backup QBs throw any TDs this preseason?
by Dirtybirdz90 on Sep 2, 2011 1:30 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
i have 2 big concerns,
O Line, and ST Coverage,
not as concerned about secondary now, we should be ok back there now with hayden and sanders, but the o line…..uglyyyyyyyyyyyyyy tonight, and from the left side , they better tighten up the pass protection, or we will be seeing more of redman and jpw….
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I agree...
2 new starters (side-by-side no less) on the OL…I think I know where da point of attack will be for da Bears D. Hopefully this is a short term issue—MCCLURE-GET WELL SOON!
And kick coverage was unimpressive all pre-season. I hope it was because Armstrong was evaluating UFAs whilst saving wear/tear on the "real" STers. Otherwise, there will be heartbreaking losses in our future where the O and D play their butts off for 58 minutes only to have ST blow the game in the 2 minutes they are on the field.
by LifeLongBirdFan on Sep 2, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Just a note
Seeing as we’re one of the better teams in the NFL most of the best undrafted rookies go to crappier teams where they will have a better shot of actually making the team. It actually makes quite a bit of sense because we seem to always be winning until the third, fourth and fifth stringers hit the turf.
Oh and we need to find a replacement for JPW, he sucks.
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Bosher
I was wondering, cause I didn’t see the game, why everyone was raving about Bosher. He averaged 33 Yards per punt. Was it just because the field was always so short? How come such a low average gets so much praise?
He was pinning them inside the 20.
I am worried that he can’t punt far though.
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If I were da Bears I would be looking at Reynolds and Hawley side-by-side on the OL and salivating huge puddles. If you were the Falcons coaches and knew da Bears are likely to attack Reynolds/Hawley you would do ____________ to counter???
Fill In The Blank - Option 1
Option 1 – Scheme for a 5ft6 in/190lb running back to help reinforce the Reynolds/Hawley section of the OL. 3 first-time-starters have to be better than 2…Right?
Why are there people still concerned that we're losing in the PS?
especially game 4. Really?
by KMarch on Sep 2, 2011 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I know, Right...sheeeeesh...
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