Falcons Training Camp Battles: Mike Johnson Versus Garrett Reynolds
It's time to ring the bell, put on the gloves and talk in an unintelligible, supposedly Philadelphian accent. ADRIAN!
Today's training camp battle pits a pair of young ofensive lineman against one another in a furious fight for the starting right guard position. One is a massive, road-grading supposed offensive tackle trying to leverage his considerable size and skill inside. In the other corner, an incredibly tough natural guard I branded an heir apparent to Harvey Dahl's starting job when he was drafted in 2010.
After the jump, let's get into the blow-by-blow.
Garrett Reynolds
A fifth-round pick back in 2009, Reynolds projected as a future starter at right tackle, should the Falcons let Tyson Clabo go. Here's what I wrote after he was drafted:
...I really do think Reynolds could be the starting right tackle for the 2010 or 2011 version of the Atlanta Falcons. There are real concerns with the athleticism and his role in the passing game, though, that will have to be addressed before we get to that point. Like fellow project Spencer Adkins, he may sneak up on you sooner than expected.
Fast forward to 2011. Tyson Clabo has just been re-signed to a four-year deal, so Reynolds' dreams of starting at right tackle for the Falcons have gone up like a pile of dry wood at a kerosene factory manned by a narcoleptic pyromaniac. Instead, he's running inside at right guard, which is not necessarily his most natural position. Alas.
What recommends Reynolds is his ferocity and competency as a run blocker, which was so frequently on display in his college career. At 6'7", he's a bit tall for a guard, but his size works in his favor in some ways, because he'll be facing gigantic defensive tackles and 3-4 ends. His ability to keep those guys busy while a running back glides by him is not in question.
What is in question is his ability to help out against the pass, and it is here that Reynolds' bid for a starting job will be wrought or broken asunder. The coaching staff is likely to watch tape from the pre-season carefully to see if he can handle sped rushers that come his way. It's obviously less of a concern for a right guard than a right tackle, but it's still a piece of his job.
With so little playing time, it's impossible to know whether Reynolds has become future starter I envisioned he would be. Still, we're about to find out.
Mike Johnson
Johnson was the presumptive favorite for the right guard job, but Reynolds has held his own in training camp and bad news arrived Sunday. Apparently, Johnson endured a concussion and was out of practice yesterday.
That's bad news, because any time Johnson misses severely damages his chance to win a job. A natural guard, Johnson was brutally effective as a member of Bama's offensive line. Based on his natural ability alone, I figured he'd be a starter by 2012 at the latest. You don't find too many college guards who project to be so well-rounded.
But Reynolds is more well-versed in the system than MJ, who has had a year of learning to Reynolds' two. And he's the better pure run blocker, though I do believe Johnson is more well-rounded. That plus the concussion could be enough to ensure that Johnson spends another year on the bench, albeit as the top guard behind an unproven starter.
Down the line, Johnson still has the higher upside and, I believe, a long-term future as the Atlanta Falcons' starting right guard. But unless he's back on the field soon and utterly dominant, it may not be 2011.
Who wins this fight to the starting job?
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I'd rather Johnson won it
Having an interior lineman taller than the QB can be a problem. But the concussion and having a year more in the system anyway probably means it’s Reynolds’ job to lose
I agree completely
Having your shiny new 6’7" guard stood up by a seasoned D lineman, thus partially blocking the sun for Matt is not a fun thought, but in these shortened camps any time lost puts u behind several 8 balls.
If he ever stands up to his full 6'7", he'd be on his back
Truthfully, with his knees bent and shoulders forward, there won’t be any QB visibility issues. If a defensive tackle gets under his pads, he’ll either bull Reynolds back into the QB or throw a swim or rip move and get the sack. Those are the problems you worry about with a tall guard, not the QB seeing over his head in this case.
by TheAreopagite on Aug 8, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Adjustments can be made!
Remember King Dunlap from PHI last year. He did good except the SF game where he had to step in half way through the game after the starter got hurt. It was supposed to be the biggest mismatch for us JA vs King Dunlap but they made adjustments and I think he did good rest of the season with PHI.
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Aug 8, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
King Dunlap is 6'9"
It's all about Process...
by Vishnu_falcon on Aug 8, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't saying GR was going to be in a Frankenstein stance in pass protection
But if they do get under him and he’s able to recover, meaning he’s still in front of the rusher but in a losing predicament he’s still a pretty big figure and it’s not like Matt is going to be standing straight up in the pocket. It’s a bit of a concern, not a huge one but a concern. I don’t expect the guy is going to have D lineman getting under him every play or it’s to the bench with you.
Not sure it makes much of a difference
Ledbetter says Mike Johnson is only an inch shorter at 6"6. My bad.
Ledbetter must still be shaken up
by TheAreopagite on Aug 8, 2011 8:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Because Johnson is about 6’4", more prototypical guard size
by TheAreopagite on Aug 8, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The taller a lineman is the better overall leverage he can get
They dont have to be as strong if they are taller than their opponent. Having a height advantage helps you control a person better because of your better position of leverage to work from.
" Ryan back to pass, He throws it long, he's going deep to Julio on his first snap! HE CAUGHT IT, HE CAUGHT! And he's dragging the safety into the endzone with him! TOUCHDOWN FALCONS! TOUCHDOWN JULIO JONES!! HIS FIRST ONE IN THE NFL, AND I GOT A FEELING THE FIRST OF MANY MANY MORE TO COME FOLKS!! I GOTTA SAY IT FOLKS - JJ.... IS.. DY-NO-MITE!!
Not necessarily
The key for a lineman is to be lower than the guy across from you
"Success comes from knowing that you did your best to become the best that you are capable of becoming." -John Wooden
Not at all
Leverage is based on getting beneath the opposing linemans point of push. If the OL is above that point he will be controlled by the DL.
Based on this alone
Down the line, Johnson still has the higher upside and, I believe, a long-term future as the Atlanta Falcons’ starting right guard. But unless he’s back on the field soon and utterly dominant, it may not be 2011.
MJ should get it, but as you noted his concussion may hamper the coaches’ confidence in him. How the hell did he get a concussion anyway? Did he get pancaked so hard that his head hit the ground, or did some DLineman (PJ perhaps?) headbutt the marbles out of him?
In addition as you and Mosugo point out, Reynolds’ extreme height may be an issue on short passes over the middle. I was thinking Matt was 6"6’, but he’s actually 6’4" so this is slightly more concerning to me now.
Yeah...
I am thinking the concussion kinda seals it…for this year anyway. You have to be carefull with head injuries…these things can end a guys career!!
I always turn to the sports pages first, which records people's accomplishments. The front page has nothing but man's failures.
--Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States.
Sounds like Reynolds is well on his way to earning the spot.
All indications thus far point to him.
"It's called Thanksgiving for a reason. If I can give and people thank me for it, that's kind of the thing that makes me feel great inside." - Dunta
Hope he gets back soon!
But I read some where that garret Reynolds is Nastier version of Harvey Dahl. I was hoping MJ would win the job though.
It's all about Process...
The job should be Reynolds'...
…because th FO needs a good evaluation of his pass-blocking skills against a real rush. If he is worthy, and if Baker continues to be a weak link, the FO could shift Reynolds to the LT spot and “promote” Johnson to starting RG.
switching from the right side of the line to the left
is a much taller order than you are giving it credit for
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Maybe, maybe not...
It all depends upon the player. For Reynolds, who played tackle in college, it’s "hard" in the sense that the left tackle faces the opponent’s best pass rusher one-one-one (usually), so there is much less margin for error. Coaches can teach the "what & how" of stance and footwork easily enough, but Reynolds has to possess the innate quickness to handle an effective speed rusher, and he has to be able to keep a good body position against the rush – which, at 6’9" really is a “tall” order.
Thus, I think it’s a good idea to see how he handles things as a guard. If the coaches think he’s got the talent, and if Baker doesn’t blossom (a la Blalock), then moving him might be something to consider.
it isn't just the switch to the better DE
but also learning to turn left instead of right and use the left side of your body for leverage instead of the right. There are very few successful ambidextrous tackles – however, I do see the point you are getting at: we either need Baker to become elite or we need to find an elite blocker to protect our very expensive franchise QB
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Clabo and Blalock
Are our best pass blockers. If anyone needs to play LT in a pinch it should be them.
this
I would move Blalock to Tackle before I would make Reynolds switch sides
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Clabo is not athletic enough
Otherwise Baker would man the right side.
by TheAreopagite on Aug 8, 2011 8:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Buffalo wanted to sign him
As a LT. He is at least as athletic as Baker.
It's also a lot different playing guard compared to tackle
As a Tackle you have mobility, you can slide your feet and intercept a defender at several points on the field before he gets to the QB.
As a guard, you dont have that luxury at all, you have tio get your feet position and leverage right immediately or your getting knocked out of the way and giving up a sack. As a guard you have to STONE a DT.
As a tackle you have to DELAY a DE.
Big difference.
" Ryan back to pass, He throws it long, he's going deep to Julio on his first snap! HE CAUGHT IT, HE CAUGHT! And he's dragging the safety into the endzone with him! TOUCHDOWN FALCONS! TOUCHDOWN JULIO JONES!! HIS FIRST ONE IN THE NFL, AND I GOT A FEELING THE FIRST OF MANY MANY MORE TO COME FOLKS!! I GOTTA SAY IT FOLKS - JJ.... IS.. DY-NO-MITE!!

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