Report: Corey Peters Will Not Require Surgery

by Dave Choate on Aug 15, 2011 7:30 AM EDT in Falcons News

It's a miracle if a team makes it through training camp and the pre-season without a major injury. The Falcons haven't even come close in recent years to doing so.

If you need someone to come along and take a baseball bat to your knee while you're jogging down Memory Lane, I'm happy to do it for you. Recall 2009, when Peria Jerry suffered a devastating injury that knocked him out for the season and hampered his effectiveness the next. Ditto Kerry Meier in 2010, who was expected to provide quality depth at a thin wide receiver corps before he lost his entire year to injury.

Thankfully, the scary leg injury Corey Peters suffered in Sunday's practice isn't an ACL tear. D. Orlando Ledbetter reports that Peters will be out for the Jacksonville game, but will not require surgery. You can breathe a collective sigh of relief anytime.

Before the season has even started, the Falcons have seen two guys concussed (John Parker Wilson and Mike Johnson), several banged up and one having suffered a potentially devastating injury (Corey Peters)....and they've just been through their first pre-season game. Football is a brutal sort of game, but it still manages to surprise you every year.

I'm hoping that like 2008, the Falcons can put an unusually healthy team on the field for 16 games in 2011. At the very least, we have a nice little silver lining with Peters not needing surgery.

Discuss the Falcons, injuries and Corey Peters here. Happy Monday, everyone.

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Thank Goodness

I think we’re going to see more of this during the 2011 season than we would care for, due to the highly contracted off-season and the reduced practice schedules. Unfortunately, injuries are a big part of the game and it’s important to have depth at as many positions as possible. I’m glad Corey is going to be ok (from the sounds of it), but losing him would have been painful – especially for a defense that rotates guys consistently.

by The DW on Aug 15, 2011 7:38 AM EDT reply actions

Quizz

Off subject but how did Quizz do? He ran in the 3rd quarter?

by Sbaron55 on Aug 15, 2011 8:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

One good run

He had one really nice run for about 12? or so yards. Frustratingly, he was constantly running between tackles. No dump passes, no swing plays, no outside pitches. Other than the one play, he was otherwise ineffective.

by The DW on Aug 15, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Once again proving MM has no idea what to do w/a change of pace back

Quizz was effective running between the tackles in college but was lethal on screen passes, pitches, sweeps, you know all the things we don’t do or look like we’re doing in slow motion. But hey, it worked for Norwood! Wait…never mind.

by aces666high on Aug 15, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions

I know what you mean!!

I was watching the replay of the rams and colts, and man did Norwood look better than he ever did here. WHY? Because they knew how to use him! He carried the ball only a couple times between the tackles, probably just for the coach to see how he did at it, but the rest of the time he was getting pitchouts or roll out screen passes. All the types of things you do with a guy like Norwood AND Quizz, you get them on the edge, you dont make them try to run thru the defensive line! The Front 4 are the ones you DONT want tackling your change of pace back!!

" Ryan back to pass, He throws it long, he's going deep to Julio on his first snap! HE CAUGHT IT, HE CAUGHT IT! JJ's dragging the safety into the endzone with him! TOUCHDOWN FALCONS! TOUCHDOWN JULIO JONES!! HIS FIRST ONE IN THE NFL, AND I GOT A FEELING THE FIRST OF MANY MANY MORE TO COME FOLKS!! I GOTTA SAY IT FOLKS - JJ......... IS.......... DY - NO - MITE!!

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 15, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions

the argument could be

That our lineman aren’t very atheletic and changing that would change how we run “smash mouth” football with our big lineman

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Aug 15, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

This is it

the difference between a zone blocking system and a power system.

by TheAreopagite on Aug 15, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions

Would be interesting...

to see if we are running these plays in practice. Maybe he is keeping it under wraps (hopefully…Jeanna??).

On another note it was refreshing to see the 20+ yard pass plays happening during that first pre-season game. We need other teams to know we are capable of these type of plays on a consistent basis if we are going to stretch the field and become more explosive on offense…just saying…

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by Blood_Talon on Aug 15, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions

I only saw 1 training camp session

but it seemed very between-the-tackles heavy.

Smokey says: Only you can BVG forest fires.

by VaderX5 on Aug 15, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions

Still Preseason

Most teams do not like to give away their offensive strategies during the preseason. It’s a time for testing players. Granted – I wanted to see Quizz break out, but I think the Falcons know what he’s capable of. They were running a pretty vanilla offensive scheme after the first 3 series.

As for Norwood – he was barely healthy the past 3 years – not sure how you can pin that on MM when the guy only played in a few games.

by The DW on Aug 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Not sure what you mean about being healthy and not pinning it on MM?

MM had many, many chances to do something with Norwood – 2006 14 games played, 2007 – 15 games played, 2008 – all 16 regular season games, even 2009 – 10 games played. He’s only been really hurt the last year and a half. Yes he had knagging injuries throughout 06-09, but he wouldn’t have gotten them probably if MM knew how to use a scatback!! As I said before, you donrt run those guys THRU the D-line, you get them the ball on the outside or beyond the d-line!
Also, I am not worried about Quizz after one game, it’s just that MM had 4 years to do something with JN, but could not, I am hoping we do not see a repeat offense with Quizz.

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 15, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions

I mean just look at 2007 alone!

Jerious AVERAGED 6 yards a carry, and 9.9 yards a reception – awesome numbers right? But he only had 28 freaking receptions, and 103 carries, in 16 games played! That is exactly what you call a coach not knowing how to use the weapons(studs) that he has!!

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 15, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Mike Mularkey

Has only been our offensive co-ordinator since 2008. So blaming him for things that happened in 2006 and 2007 when he was working for the Miami Dolphins doesn’t really work. In his time here Norwood has missed 20 out of 48 possible games.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Heh...

Mosugo – 1
MM Haters – 0
I am kidding with this little score board of course…lol

I will add (and I am not pro or con on MM, for me…jury is still out), whether I agree/disagree; like/dislike how MM runs this offence I will state what I have stated before…“MM has not had the luxury of other high powered offenses in the league; the personnel and/or talent at his disposal for this type of play”. Now I think he and MR have the weapons and I am looking forward to how they use them. We have already seen a glimpse right out of the gate in the first pre-season game in my opinion on plays of 20+ yards.

As far as Quizz (I think this kid will be awesome), he was just drafted, he’s still learning the system and to say MM doesn’t know how to use him after now having one professional game under his belt? Not sure I am following that line of reasoning. I think if he stays healthy and learns the system in play then MM will get his (our) money’s worth out of him.

Just my opinions of course…

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by Blood_Talon on Aug 16, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I agree with you

And not just because of the little scoreboard. The time to judge Mularkey comes after this season, not now. If JJ turns out as we think he will, and we play with the same style of offense for another year then he truly is too conservative.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions

No more chances

Honestly, with the way Dimitroff has been talking, I don’t think he’ll put up with “too conservative” for too long. I can promise you this: TD did not send out 5 draft picks to get Julio to use him as a blocking receiver. If MM doesn’t open up the offense, I think he’ll have TD and big Arthur personally calling him and MS to let them know their feelings.

by The DW on Aug 16, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions

I have a hard time believing...

That me, a 22 year old average fan with an Associate’s degree, would know how to use a change of pace back better than a 45+ year old offensive coordinator who’s been in football for the past 20 years or more.

We might “know” how to use him better, but I highly doubt he has no idea. I also highly doubt that he hasn’t tried things. As maxxj said, the OL might not be athletic enough to get out in space.

You can hate on MM all you want, but I’m not buying it for one second.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Aug 15, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Ok how bout this, he does have an idea

But it’s lost somewhere in that book titled Run Between the Tackles Right & Run Between the Tackles Left. His ideas about running screen plays are probably in there too. Bookmarks or something.

by aces666high on Aug 15, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

To MM's defense yet again Caleb

by mwalex on Aug 15, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions

I'll defend the man because, being that he's one of 32 positions in the entire country, he ought to know what he's doing.

He may not do it the way we want, but I highly doubt he doesn’t know how to do it. He wouldn’t be a coordinator at the highest level if he “didn’t know how” to do it. That is all I’m saying.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Aug 15, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Caleb

you are a broken record when it comes to this subject. MM is antiquated and has NEVER been a top tier OC. His historical numbers with PITT and ATL sign the same song. The only difference is that when he was at PITT you could win championships with his style. ATL can’t even win a playoff game playing MM football.

His excuses are up this season. The O has explosive tools. No more blaming a lack of talent. If the O performs the same as last year what will you say then? I actually hope MM surprises us all.

What he knows and what he ought to know are two different things. Remember that article that called him anachronistic? That nailed it on the head.

by mwalex on Aug 15, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm not saying he's top tier

but I won’t sit here and listen to people say he doesn’t know what he’s doing. That’s crazy talk. If it’s really such a big deal, then I would encourage anyone who thinks he doesn’t know what he’s doing to go out and do it better.

Again, just because he doesn’t do it the way we want doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Whether we like it or not, it’s what we have, so we’ll deal with it. We should be happy our team is actually a winning team. We could still be perennially bad.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Again with the "do it better" garbage

That is a weak comment and so juvenille. There is nothing wrong with pointing out issues with the OC. Why do you seem to think it is? It’s almost like you’re personally offended when peopl say they dislike MM, or the job he does. I have nothing against MM I just think his time has passed. If he opens the offense up then I will be one of the first to say I was wrong and it was a lack of talent.

by mwalex on Aug 15, 2011 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions

The flip side that is forgotten

Ball control offenses have a few advantages: they are far less turnover prone, they wear opposing defenses down and they keep your defense relatively fresh. And in many cases, when run well, you stand a chance of beating any team in the league. The Falcons went 13-3, partly due to always being in games due to superior ball control and high discipline.

However, the major shortcoming is definitely the lack of scoring firepower, as Green Bay exposed in the playoffs. Theirmoffense dictated the game and forced us to abandon ball control principles, which also resulted in higher turnover numbers.

If MM can combine the two, it will be very hard to beat. As has been said, now that all the weapons are in place, this is the season for him to prove that he can do more than run between the tackles. We don’t have to completely abandon the ball control game – that would be lunacy for a team with 3 straight winning seasons – but it is time to open it up.

by The DW on Aug 15, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions

Tone, please

by Dave Choate on Aug 16, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Mwalex

With all due respect you are also a broken record when it comes to MM.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions

And I will be

until he changes the offensive approach or he’s gone.

by mwalex on Aug 16, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Fair play sir

I don’t think anyone loves the guy, but we should give him a chance with proper weapons this season to open it up.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Can't resist

but I won’t sit here and listen to people say he doesn’t know what he’s doing. That’s crazy talk. If it’s really such a big deal, then I would encourage anyone who thinks he doesn’t know what he’s doing to go out and do it better.

But did Zell Miller Body-Snatch Caleb?

That’s one of the funniest confrontations if you guys haven’t seen it.

by KMarch on Aug 15, 2011 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions

Sorry I ruffled your feathers Caleb. Ha! We're Falcon fans! Feathers! Never mind.

When I wrote “he has no idea” I was writing it as if a bunch of guys were sitting around ripping the coaches as we are known to do. Sometimes I forget in the intertubes if the web that doesn’t come across. I KNOW the guy knows stuff! He just chooses not to use a lot of it. I don’t expect MM to be drawing up an intricate play per series but would an occasional screen hurt? Could they replace that garbage quick hit pass that gains 2 yards and almost kills Roddy every time? Could they replace a few of MT’s 1 yard runs up the middle with a pass to Snelling for 8? saving MT’s legs a little bit? Sure the slow grinding drive is great sometimes but what happens against high octane teams? We falter and can’t get back in it. I hope he does surprise us this season and not with some trick garbage that works one time. I’m talking about legitimate plays. We all thought he was gonna open that secret playbook a few months back in a game we shall not speak of. What did we get? I would love to eat some Grimes pie when it comes to MM, but I’m not holding my breath.

by aces666high on Aug 16, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions

I disagree

I don’t think that the Ram’s offensive line is “more athletic” than ours. Heck, 20% of their line came from us. I do agree however that when we do try to run a screen or pitch to the outside, it appears that our guys are running through mud. Not just the line, but everyone involved in the play. I just wonder if it’s something that MM has (or doesn’t have) the players do presnap. Just a thought.

by DenverFalcon on Aug 15, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

haha - I like that "20%" stat you threw out

It makes it sound like much more than just one lineman

lol

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by MentallyMIA on Aug 15, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions

and 25% of our QB's are rookies!?

We’re screwed guys. lol

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 15, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions

As...

well as 75% of our WR’s are unproven with 25% being rookies, but the other 25% of them are among the best in the league…not sure that balances out…lol

33% of our kickers are rookies…

Holy crap, now that I look at it “percentage wise”…we’re not looking to good…well, on paper anyway…hahaha

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by Blood_Talon on Aug 15, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Look at it this way

50% of our starting corners are Brent Grimes.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions

Caleb, this one we disagree on.

DenverFalcon is correct, their line is no more athletic than ours is. In fact we have an average size line weight wise. Our offense just doesn’t seem to know how to run these type of plays – almost anything to the edge, we can run up the middle like a MFer, but end arounds, pitchouts, screens(bubble or slip). or simple checkdowns we are not good at as an offense – and I would think everyone on here knows this to be true, mayboe not this year, I hope, but for the last 3. it’s been that way for our offense. And who’s fault is that? The offensive Coordinator Caleb.
That was my point, not that I know how to run an offense better than the atlanta Falcons OC. Just that we have had a change of pace back, however fragile he was, before but we never saw anything emerge speed wise on the outside of the field. Let us all hope it was merely Norwood never picking up the offense or being the right “kind” of speed back – I heard Quizz, takes one step and goes – and that this year we see a difference. I already saw it in the first preseason game – A positive yardage gain end-around?? WTF?? I anit seen that in an ATL uniform in 5 years at least. lol

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 15, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I mean, I don't know. Maxxj suggested it, I was agreeing that it's a possibility.

I just have a hard time believing “he doesn’t know” how to do it.

I would be shocked if he clearly had no idea how to use a change of pace back. I would be completely shocked if he had no idea, because that would be trivial.

I’m saying MM is (or should be) an intelligent man, and I see some people talk like he’s a moron. Come on, now.

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by Caleb Rutherford on Aug 15, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions

He has never show cased a change of pace back

in any offense he has been the coordinator for. He misused JN and might have well contributed to his injuries. While at PIT his RB was Bettis, not a change of pace back by any extent.

Because he is a coach doesn’t mean he isn’t a moron. He has been put into a position he cannot handle. Each year was the OC at PIT the offensive became less and less effective. ATL’s offensive effectiveness has dropped each of the past three years. Is that a coincidence?

MM should be the poster child for the Peter Principle.

by mwalex on Aug 15, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions

Their line is more athletic than ours

Roger Saffold, the 33rd pick of the 2010 draft is their LT. His draft profile:

“Shows excellent quickness and explosion off the snap. Moves in space well despite a larger build. Does not let go once on top of a linebacker at the second level. Surprising agility and flexibility to adjust to players coming hard from the inside or outside.”

Jason Brown, their center:

“He does a good job of getting out on the edge, where he can impact, run and seal off. "

Jason Smith, their RT was the no.2 pick of the 2009 draft. He is a converted tight end and his draft profile goes on about his athleticism.

Obviously they have Dahl at RG, and I don’t know much about their LG Jacob Bell. But the other 3 guys are very athletic and young as well. The Rams line is significantly more athletic than ours.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions

Why are you replying to me on that one?

by mwalex on Aug 16, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions

That is simply opinions Mos

In reality there is no way to distinguish between the 2 lines unless they play each other, or after many games to compare stats. Your reply above of commments from scouts is not an argument at all. I could show you 50 players with great draft profiles like above that didn’t make it in the nFL at all.
Just the fact that people are discussing the o-lines as the reason for JN doing better there than here is reason enough to know that MM has not properly used his speed players. We now added 2 more, I hope and pray that MM changes his ways. I did notice in the first preseason game, MM put Quizz at FB on a play that was called back for a false start on 4th down. They handed the ball to Quizz instead of the TB. God, I hope that is not the extent of his playcalling changes. I mean really? You put a 5ft 6in 175 lb guy at FB? WHat is this guy thinking? Thats how you get those scatbacks hurt!! WTF?
That is what I am talking about Mos and Caleb.

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 16, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions

That play was on 4th and 1

And would have gone for a 1st down if not for a false start. True you can find hundreds of players whose athleticism is praised coming out of college. But none of them play on our offensive line. It is just my opinion that the Rams line is more athletic than ours, I was just trying to back it up with some other opinions.

by Mosugo on Aug 16, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Quizz was known for his toughness

I think there were some very good reasons for seeing Quizz throwing blocks and running between the tackles. MM and team know what Quizz is capable of in the flats and receiving the ball. I think they put him in there to see if he could throw blocks – especially if he’s going to be a 3rd down back, where blocking could be critical. They want to know if they can put him in there during any down and trust him to fulfill all responsibilities of the position.

He may be small, but his reputation coming out of college was that he is tough as nails and runs like a much bigger back. I think MM was testing that to know what he truly had in him.

by The DW on Aug 16, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't forget about HD's injury as well

happened the same in the same pre-season as PJ’s.

by KMarch on Aug 15, 2011 9:11 AM EDT reply actions

Wait a minute, PJ went down the second game of the regular season

Or was my Clay Matthews blackout that bad?

by aces666high on Aug 15, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions

my bad (phrasing)

by KMarch on Aug 15, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions

I believe Jerry

went down in the first game of the 2009 season and HD did get hurt during the 2009 preseason.

by mwalex on Aug 15, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions

Jerry went down week 2 against the Panthers

HD didn’t make it through the preseason

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by MentallyMIA on Aug 15, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Bad injuries will happen.

Teams lose on average at least 2 to 3 players to season-ending injuries every year. It’s something that you hate to have happen, but you know it will happen. You just have to hope that it is not a starter or another important player.

by falconfanatic79 on Aug 15, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions

Any updates on Akeem Dent's injury?

by Fear Me on Aug 15, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions

knock on wood but I been holding my breath about injuries to our players

That is the one thing that can almost guarantee you a good season, is to be less injury prone then the other teams, stay healthier. I have been waiting everyday to see some kind of headline about a falcon player going down for the season or half of it!! I was just hoping like hell it wouldn’t be a skilled player or a heart and soul type player for us. As I said in a previous post, we are very thin at DT. We only have ONE proven DT that can dominate most of his matchups in a game – Babs (J. Babineaux, for vlad) thats it guys, just one. Peters was our second best. We need to go out an sign a veteran DT that KNOWS he’s coming in for depth, but will get a shot if someone goes down. ANY OTHER INJURY AT DT AND OUR WISHFUL THINKING FOR A GREAT PASS RUSH WILL BE NO MORE – GUARANTEED. No push in the middle, no pass rush, no run defense either!

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 15, 2011 9:56 AM EDT reply actions

And there was much rejoicing.

Yay.

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by Duff_Man on Aug 15, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

yaaay

by aces666high on Aug 15, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions

And they were forced to eat Joe Buck

and there was much rejoicing.

by orion12 on Aug 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions

yaaay

by aces666high on Aug 15, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions

KAMPAI!

by YokoFalcon on Aug 15, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Fan since 66

In all these years I dont recall it being so easy knowing who is going to get the ball on the next play. Caleb, I have to disagree with you.

by old cuss on Aug 15, 2011 9:14 PM EDT reply actions

MM just needs to open it up a bit...

Last year after a game, my wife said “Man, that was boring”. Of course U arged because we won, but I must admit, it WAS boring. Maybe he knows something we dont. All I ask is to be a little surprised by play calls. They were so predictable last year.

Honestly, I see just that happening. I see more big plays, screens, reverses, etc. As long as they move the chains, let’s do it.

by DirtyBirdTakeover on Aug 16, 2011 12:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

Of course "I" argued

by DirtyBirdTakeover on Aug 16, 2011 12:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions

I'll take...

“Predictable” if it wins a SB!!

I don’t presume to know half as much as MM has forgotten about the game of football but “Vanilla” or not…it’s putting “W’s” on the board!!

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by Blood_Talon on Aug 16, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions