Following The Draft Around The NFC South: Tampa Bay Bucs Edition
Over the next week, The Falcoholic will review the 2011 drafts of the three other teams in the NFC South. Today, it's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
The Buccaneers were one of the biggest surprises of 2010.
The Atlanta Falcons beat them twice last season, but it wasn't exactly a cakewalk. After having a couple of bad seasons, the Bucs came together under a young head coach, a talented young quarterback and some nice complementary pieces.
They're not likely to get any worse after their current draft, unfortunately. After the jump, let's break down their 2011 NFL Draft picks, which were geared at improving a leaky defense.
DE Adrian Clayborn: A powerful defensive end with a run-stopping pedigree and some potential as a pass rusher, Clayborn was one of the most balanced players on the board. He was widely thought to be a possibility for the Falcons at #27 by national experts, though I was never a particular fan of the pick because he didn't have the pass-rushing upside of some other ends.
Aside from a nerve condition that made scouts skittish, Clayborn is a safe pick. The Bucs had a huge need at end, and Clayborn was unquestionably a good fit for a team looking to get more physical up front. I'm not a big believer in his upside, but even if he tops out as a solid starter who can do a little bit of everything, he's an upgrade for Tampa Bay.
DE Da'Quan Bowers: You want to talk about boom or bust? Bowers will either be a stick of dynamite or Pamela Anderson's bosom.
Once thought of as a potential first overall pick, Bowers suffered a serious injury that scared teams away from him. Bowers was a huge value for the Buccaneers in the second round, and his talent is unquestionably top ten. When he gets on the field for Tampa Bay, he's going to produce, and he's going to be a pass rushing whiz as a bookend to Clayborn.
But there's the little question of getting on the field. Bowers could have a very short career, since he's going to need major surgery to repair his injuries, and the Bucs may only get to enjoy his brilliance for a fleeting moment. He's perhaps the biggest question mark in the draft, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't terrified of him.
LB Mason Foster: A great value pick for the Buccaneers, and another good piece to add as they improve their defense. A well-rounded player and a fundamentally sound tackler, Foster is nothing spectacular but could start for the Bucs within a year or two and provide value.
That's really all I've got to say about that.
TE Luke Stocker: Here's a guy I would've liked the Falcons to get a hand on. A big tight end with soft hands, the ability to display a burst of speed when called upon. He wasn't super productive at Tennessee, but he could get better with time in the NFL. The Bucs aren't exactly stacked at tight end, so Stocker should be a valuable player.
S Ahmad Black: I'm not impressed with this pick. The Bucs, like most NFL teams, could use more depth at safety. The problem is that Black, while a wily player who puts himself in a position to succeed, appears to lack the strength, athleticism and speed to be more than a backup at the NFL. There's always the possibility that Black could overcome those weaknesses to be an effective starter, but I don't see it happening. Meh.
RB Allen Bradford: A big, bruising back in the mold of T.J. Buckett, Bradford doesn't do much more than run fast in a straight line and run over people. Given that the Bucs already have LaGarette Blount, this doesn't exactly strike me as a great complementary pick, but Bradford is a tough enough runner that he can wear down defenses.
DB Anthony Gaitor: I know very little about Gaitor, but I'm guessing he'll play special teams and enjoy being buried alive on the depth chart. Good? Good.
TE Daniel Hardy: A project tight end with some blocking chops. About as much as you can expect from a late seventh round pick.
Conclusion: The Buccaneers landed with a thud in the late rounds, picking up guys who are at best solid depth and at worst not much of anything. But in the early rounds they grabbed players who have the potential to transform their defense, as well as a potential future starter at tight end. That's an exceedingly solid draft for a young, talented team, and it's scary to think about Clayborn and Bowers chasing after Matt Ryan in the years ahead.
How Bowers does will come to define this one, but the Bucs did well. I don't like it, but there you are. What do you think?
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The Bucs FO is using a high-risk method of rebuilding and it has already bitten them in the ass
I remember a few years ago when the Bengals were appearing on the verge of breaking out of mediocrity that has plagued the franchise since the late 80’s (before Carson Palmer’s knee exploded); and Marvin Lewis addressed Cincy’s habit of taking high-risk players.
Lewis justified doing so essentially because when he took over the roster was devoid of much talent and he felt the organization had to be aggressive in purely chasing talent during the Draft and Free Agency (character concerns be damned) because it was hard to get drafted players to stay after their first contract and to get FAs to sign at all. And he was praised for such a dangerous approach until the team fell apart and the locker room became as dysfunctional as it gets in the NFL.
I think in their rush to improve quickly in the NFC South the Bucs have followed a similar pattern. Dominick and Morris have an insatiable appetite for talent (as well they should), but it has lead them to assemble a roster that is young and skilled while lacking in health and character. And don’t get me wrong, this approach has delivered wins on Sunday. I just wonder how long it is sustainable.
Just imagine trying to build a team around some of these pieces:
Kevin Winslow Jr. – bad knee, even worse character and judgement
Aqib Talib – best defensive player, accsued of pistol whipping and shooting at his sister’s boyfriend this offseason
Alex Magee – DE Bucs traded for, just arrested for weed position
LaGarrette Blount – one of their best RBs, when undrafted for assaulting an opponet after a game
All in all, 10 Bucs have been arrested since Jan. 2010.
Then add in their two top picks who have major medial concerns and I don’t know how successful this team will be over the next few years.
by Leon07 on May 12, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I never thought of it like that
The Bucs just got a whole lot less frightening. Rec’d
I was preparing a draft preview of Foster, but lost interest after learning he was likely to get picked in the 2nd round:
Washington LB Mason Foster is “not going to last past the second round,” league sources tell the Miami Herald.
Foster was second in the entire country in tackles with 163 and that led the PAC-10. He also led the PAC-10 in tackles in 2008. Um, the guy had more tackles last year than anyone taken in the first round of the draft the past five years — including Patrick Willis and Rolando McClain. He led all tacklers in the Senior Bowl with eight.
The TE is likely the 2nd best of the “true” TEs (not H-back, or WR hybrids)
The one guy I feared the Falcons getting was Clayborn, I just don’t like 1st round DEs who are not great pass rushers, and was down on him even before the Erb’s Palsy came out.
The there is Bowers. I agree with Dave, if he is healthy, the new DLine they got in Tampa is scarry, but it would appear that 31 teams DON’T think he is healthy.
According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, there is legitimate concern around the NFL that Bucs No. 51 overall pick Da’Quan Bowers is “done.”
Per the Union-Trib’s Kevin Acee, “most teams” are concerned that Bowers’ career is over before it began. Adds Acee, “there is a large number of people who have seen the medical report from when he was re-checked in April that believe he is done.” The Bucs gambled a second-round pick on a few good years of Bowers, but microfracture surgery is considered inevitable.
May 9, 2:25 PM Source: San Diego Union-Tribune
Tampa
The defense looked very strong against the pass last year, but I think with Talib dealing with some behavior issues, if he’s not on the Bucs, that’ll help the Falcons.
BUT
They have the cap room to get Nnadi Asomugha. The question is, will NA sign with Tampa or does he want to go to a more successful organization? Improvement or proven contender? If they do sign N.A., that’s an upgrade over Talib, and makes that defense even scarier. Even worse, if Talib stays, MM should be calling run plays to Jacquizz, MT, and Snelling all day.
I doubt he signs for the Bucs
The Bucs, surprisingly, play a whole lot of Tampa 2 zone coverage. The Raiders play, and always will as long Al Davis owns them, almost exclusively man coverage. Asomugha excels at shadowing the other team’s top receiver and shutting him down in man coverage.
Now obviously he would still be effective in zone coverage. But his main responsibility in a Tampa 2 would be to not give up a big play. You don’t need to pay $20 million a year to a guy to not give up a big play. The Bucs would either have to change their system (which all their personnel/coaching staff is geared towards) or not use Asomugha properly, and thus not get good value for money. I also doubt Asomugha would want to sign for a team that wouldn’t use his strengths and would ask him to play in a defense unlike anything he ever has before.
The Bucs have the cap space and the need at CB to make this happen
But I could see them having to fight off higher profile teams to get it done.
The talk so far is that in the new CBA the salary cap for 2011 will be in the $140-$160 million.
And according to Pat Yasinskas, the current amount every team has towards 2011 is as follows:
Arizona $83 million
Atlanta $102.1 million
Baltimore $101.3 million
Buffalo $96.4 million
Carolina $73 million
Chicago $104.9 million
Cincinnati $90.7 million
Cleveland $99.2 million
Dallas $136.6 million
Denver $125 million
Detroit $113.8 million
Green Bay $129.8 million
Houston $118.4 million
Indianapolis $115.5 million
Jacksonville $78.1 million
Kansas City $74.7 million
Miami $103.1 million
Minnesota $108.4 million
New England $102.3 million
New Orleans $105.2 million
New York Giants $126.3 million
New York Jets $128.5 million
Oakland $85.8 million
Philadelphia $80.8 million
Pittsburgh $116 million
San Diego $85.8 million
San Francisco $100.9 million
Seattle $81.1 million
St. Louis $102.4 million
Tampa Bay $59.7 million
Tennessee $107.4 million
Washington $115.2 million
I think it would be hard for NA to turn down someone like the Eagles (with a larger market and more national attention) or a San Deigo/Francisco if he wants to stay on the west coast.
by Leon07 on May 12, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, my $$ is on Philly.
Rec’d, by the way.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Also keep in mind that with the return of the salary cap presumably comes a salary floor
So a few teams on the lower end of the spectrum (just like the Bucs) might kill two birds with one stone and go after NA to get above the floor and acquire this year’s top free agent as well.
I just don't think he fits their system at all
Can’t see them deviating too much from the Tampa 2 in Tampa. And Asomugha is a man to man shut down corner.
Talent can blind everybody
GMs, coaches, and fans.
Every single year some team signs a free agent who has no earthy business in that team’s system assuming that his skill will magically translate. Washington and Oakland are the usual suspects but occasionally it’s some other coach or GM who is on the hot seat will fold under pressure and do something stupid.
I think the pros of getting NA would win out in Dominik’s and Morris’ minds. When the hammer comes down on Talib, they will need to do something to divert fan anger from them. As it stands, one of their starting CBs is facing a felony conviction and the other is closer to 40 than 30. Getting NA at least makes it seem like they are not totally inept.
Fair point
I won’t be too worried if they do get him though. One of the best man coverage corners ever going to the team that plays probably the most zone in the league is not overly concerning.
If the Bucs...
Kill two birds with one stone, PETA will be all over their asses.
I welcome it.
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by Jman781 on May 12, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's hoping that Talib is suspended the first 4 games of the season
Since we play the bucs in week 3!!
@Chi, @Ind,@Det SIMPLY AWESOME !! I'll probably be supporting the birds from the sidelines of all 3 of those this year. all are within 3.5 hours of me. I am getting so excited about the first game of the season, everybody I work with are Bears or Colts fans. It's gonna be sooo sweeet this year, taking all their money!! lol
Talib is facing felony assault charges in Texas of all places (too bad he isn't a Cowboy)
Assuming he pleads out and somehow doesn’t face serious jail time for this, I could see a 6 month to a full year suspension given his past history of violence.
Something tells me that one of Goodell’s pet-peeves is prominent NFL players getting into trouble with guns.
that's if the Bucs don't drop him
which multiple reporters (both in Tampa and national) have suggested will be coming after the lockout.
I think it would be a whole lot more than 4 games
He might even face jail time.
by Mosugo on May 12, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That guy is a powder keg
Remember when Roddy White said something to Talib during the game and he got all mad and ready to do something. I think you can knock him off his game easy because he doesn’t have self control.
I almost forgot about y'all!
Damn offseason.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on May 12, 2011 6:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
OT...
I appreciate all of the off-season content.
Admittedly, I don’t post as much in the off-season, for I am horrible at the prognostication game.
However, considering it’s the off-season (and in a lockout year), I appreciate all of the content posted daily on this site. Some sites become stagnant in the off-season…not this one.
Keep up the good work guys.
Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
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by Jman781 on May 12, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Ends
If the DEs can play, combine them with the DTs taken last year, and if Talib is retained, their defense will be nightmarish.
Note if used two ifs (maybes) in that statement, which posters will recognize I don’t like per my posts on TD drafts.
There is no way Talib plays next season
He shot at someone. If he miraculously avoids jail time they will cut him. He will be suspended as well given his prior history.

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