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ESPN: Falcons Looking Hard At Torrey Smith, Jon Baldwin In Draft

Two of the draft's biggest wide receiver prospects are being heavily linked to the Atlanta Falcons down the stretch.

That's the word from ESPN's Pat Yasinskas, who says he's been hearing Torrey Smith and Jonathan Baldwin linked to the team. With less than a week to go until the draft, it's hardly surprising that such talk is swirling, and it's difficult to know how to parse the truth from the misinformation. That's especially true when everything we've heard recently has the Falcons in hot pursuit of Troy wideout Jerrel Jernigan.

I do find it hard to doubt Yasinskas, a guy with a good pedigree and someone who is pretty tapped-in to what the NFC South is up to. I can't imagine either would be an option at #27, given that both would be considered a mild reach, but they'd be possibilities in the second round. I'm still of the firm belief that the first pick for the Falcons will be a lineman, defensive or offensive.

In a lot of ways, it's logical. The 6'1" Smith mixes speed with decent size, and the 22-year-old doesn't come with the same questions about his hands that Maryland teammate Darrius Heyward-Bey did. Baldwin comes equipped with baggage in the way of off-the-field concerns, but he's huge (6'4", 228), young (21) and had a nice career at Pittsburgh. With the Falcons needing more prolific pass-catchers and eventually looking to replace Michael Jenkins outside, either could be an option.

If the Falcons end up trading back, we may just see Baldwin or Smith in a Falcons uniform. I still say wide receiver is a likely early round pick for the team, who do need an infusion of talent at the position. What are your thoughts?

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So if Dimitroff is doing his predraft misinformation campaign correctly then we have no interest in either guy, right?

I really do hate predraft reporting. The conventional wisdom is that teams who like a player will actively try to sabotage the prospect in any way possible in hopes he falls to them, while they talk up players they dislike in an attempt to get another team to “waste” a pick by taking him.

So everything we hear from reporters with “team sources” is likely GM-spun bullshit.

For some reason all this trickeration seems strangely familiar to me.

by Leon07 on Apr 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

classic

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on Apr 25, 2011 1:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

But you must have known I was not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the WR in front of me.

(Dimitroff really DOES like them)

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Apr 25, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 2008 the Falcons fan world had hashed out the information and we the fans settled on Matt Ryan as our mock pick (I hadn’t mind you but I was wrong) and as it turns out that’s whom the team actually selected. In 2009, we were all pretty up in the air as I recall. I think the choices we all hashed out were Jerry and even Moore in the 2nd (between Moore and Chung). And that’s what the team picked. Last year when the dust settled here we had mostly gotten on board the Spoontrain, and again that’s what we got!

To the point… We don’t talk about these guys anymore and I’m sure there are vast and comprehensive reasons for that. Thus, I do not believe these are the guys we’re actually going to draft.

by Caviarhound on Apr 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Ehhh

I like Smith and Baldwin, but only if we trade down, maybe into the 2nd round. Maybe if a team like the Pats want to trade up, we drop down into the 2nd round and pick up Smith or Baldwin.

I’d rather have a D-Lineman first, and if all the DEs with 1st round grades have dropped, then I’d go Torrey Smith, though I’d prefer it being a strong DE (Clayborn, Kerrigan, Watt, etc.) in the 1st and Jernigan in the 2nd.

by ndnpride8806 on Apr 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

Do I keep seeing talk about how the Pats want to trade up? Folks, they have two 1st round picks and BOTH are ahead of our pick at #27. There is no need for them to trade up.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost right

their 2nd pick is number 28. I can’t see the Patriots trading up before they trade down either.

by Fear Me on Apr 25, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad

you’re right. In my zest to completely bury that notion, I misspoke. Thanks.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

and they own the first pick in the 2nd Round as well

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

think it all started

a few years ago, when BB decided that many of the rookies wouldn’t even make his team, so he started stock-piling, and now he’s built up a treasury of them, and they’re all really high. I’d hate to see what he gets next year with all of these, but I think he’ll actually use 2 of his first 3 picks this year. They are in need of some players.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every year before the draft they fill one of Robert Kraft's private jets with endangered Dolphins and crash it into a herd of Buffalo

Can’t say PETA would like it, but it seems to get the jobs done.

Personally I think it that Bill Belichick honestly believes that many 1st round players simply don’t provide enough value given the money and contract years they require. Also, he seems to have a lot of confidence in his scouting department mid and lower round talent that his coaching staff can extract starter quality skills from.

As such he is far more willing to take advantage of desperate teams who want to sell off next year’s picks to get a player they think can put them over the top now.

Its not a methodology most organizations are even willing to try, but Belichick’s track record of Superbowl rings speaks for itself.

by Leon07 on Apr 25, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been on the Baldwin band wagon

I still am. I really don’t think he’s a reach in the first, especially if the DE we want is gone by the 27th pick. Besides I think we could still get an Acho or Sheard in the second and be just fine. No matter who we get, this year, it seems they are going to be a backup for a season or two.

by FalconsFan721 on Apr 25, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed that this reeks of stale tuna

There’s been nothing to this other than Yasinkas. DOL picked it up from him, and now, all of a sudden, it’s everywhere. According to most lists, the Falcons haven’t even interviewed Baldwin. If that’s true, it’s even harder to see him getting picked at #27.

It will be interesting to see where these WRs go. It seems that there’s no consensus whether these two are better than ‘the next tier’ of WRs like Jernigan and the rest (I’m blanking). If St. Louis doesn’t get a WR in the 1st, you know they’re taking one of these guys, and maybe this talk is out there in case a team likes St. Louis wants to jump up to the Falcons’ spot to grab a guy.

Anyone else see the PFT report that Randall Cobb is going to the draft? I found this interesting considering it’s unclear what round he’ll be taken.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Cincy

is another team that could have interest in one of these guys if they can’t get AJ Green with their first-rounder.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know I wasn't think about WR as a target for teams

My mind was focused on QB. So the chance of picking up extra picks looks better. Wow!

by Fear Me on Apr 25, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just dawned on me

Sitting directly behind us are the Pats, Bears, and Jets, all who will likely be looking at WR as a strong possibility. This lends itself to the theory that TD might be putting this out in order to get some people to call him about that pick. Or maybe, knowing those three teams are back there, we really do go WR in the 1st round.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just ready for thurday.

The only problem is that it starts at 8:00 EST and our pick probably won’t be until after midnight. This is going to be a tough Friday because there’s no way I’m missing this. Would somebody please ask the NFL to start this on Friday instead of Thursday.

by Fear Me on Apr 25, 2011 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe it won't last that long

didn’t they shorten the time b/n picks last year? I remember it going much quicker. It will definitely go until around 11-11:30 though.

by KMarch on Apr 25, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah they did but I think they shortened it

from 15 minutes to choose to 10 minutes to choose. That averages out to 6 teams an hour. Most likely that won’t happen because that would put us in hour 5 (1:00ish). That’s why I thought I would just prepare my mind to stay up late

by Fear Me on Apr 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not impressed with either of these guys.

I’m sure they’ll be solid players, but we already have those. What we need are playmakers.

by orion12 on Apr 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

If we could add either while also trading back and adding picks then i'm on board

I think both guys can add something that we currently don’t have. Those two are right behind AJ and Julio for me as the only other WR’s in this draft that can make a difference for what we need at the postion. I know some have been pulling for Cobb and Jernigan but I don’t see either as a fit for us. I know some look at that 4.3 posted by Jernigan on his pro day a say he can be that explosive player we are looking for but he doesn’t play nearly as fast as he times. He just doesn’t run away from people like you would expect someone that fast to do and when you factor in his career ypc is only 11.9 plus the level of competition makes it even worse.

by Atlborn3 on Apr 25, 2011 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

WR's

1. L. Hankerson – Good speed for his size and very agile. I think Hankerson should be rated the 3rd best receiver in the draft. This is the guy the Falcons should target.

2. Titus Young – Has the speed to take the top off of defenses, great hands, in my opinion the craftiest receiver in open space in the draft. Only issue I see is he’s small, durability might be an issue otherwise excellent football player.

3. Randall Cobb – Most versatile receiver I see in this draft, has all the skills, can do kick returns, run the wild cat, has even played QB and halfback. Will probably be there in 2nd round when Falcons pick.

I would be happy with any of these guys but I just think Hankerson has the biggest upside for the pro game.

" Just my thoughts "

by BigFalcon84 on Apr 25, 2011 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Same

I really think Hankerson has the intangibles to take his game to the next level.

by saipol on Apr 25, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Hankerson will be there.

I believe Hankerson, Young, and Baldwin will go at the top of the second round.

by Fear Me on Apr 25, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any faith

in Meier, Weems or Douglas? I’d rather get a FA WR who can step in right away than a drafted kid who’ll take 3 years to learn the position. I’d like to hope that Weems or Douglas would mature into that deep threat we need. Meier is more of a clutch receiver than burner, but he could take some of the weight off Gonzo’s shoulders.

by drmondo667 on Apr 25, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Free Agents aren't always the answer

If a team truly has a playmaker on their roster, they are unlikely to let them walk unless they are malcontents, have off the field problems, are past their primes, or are coming off a major injury. And even with those questions, the FAs still command considerable monetary investments.

Signing FAs is a crapshoot just like trying to draft and develop players. The only difference is that the latter tends to be much cheaper.

by Leon07 on Apr 25, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd hard

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Apr 26, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

A rookie should be able

to learn particular plays so that he’ll be involved in certain packages. As the year goes he should develop into a pretty good option. If New England and Indy can do it, so can we.

by Fear Me on Apr 25, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just don’t draft a short WR

Ice throws high and needs tall guys or leapers to snag the passes

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Apr 25, 2011 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade all draft picks and get A.J. Green

I’m only sort of kidding. Please don’t mock me too hard.

"It's called Thanksgiving for a reason. If I can give and people thank me for it, that's kind of the thing that makes me feel great inside." - Dunta

by TomQ on Apr 26, 2011 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I think both of these WRs are gone by #59 but I don't think we should spend another 1st rounder on WR

trading down and out of the first and then maybe up in the second would give us two shots at these WRs, (Baldwin, Torrey, or Hankerson) or we can be patient and see which WR is available at #59, one of Titus Young, Randall Cobb, or Jerningan will be there at 59

by durst on Apr 26, 2011 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

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