An Early Look At The Falcons-Texans Depth Chart: Sam Baker Is A Backup
Thanks to the invaluable reporting of D. Orlando Ledbetter, we have a better sense of how the Falcons' lineups will shake out against the Texans this weekend. Let's run through these items like marauding vikings.
The Offensive Tackle Shakeup, By Robert Ludlum
The big news is that Sam Baker has officially moved down the depth chart as a backup to Will Svitek. Here's what Mike Smith had to say on that front:
Smith said the decision was made because Baker is still not 100 percent recovered from back surgery performed during the Falcons’ bye week in late October. The team previously had not revealed that Baker had surgery, his second in four seasons. Baker had a discectomy, a procedure on herniated-disc material in his lower back to relieve pain in his hip, as a rookie.
While I'm sure it's true that Baker is not fully recovered from his back surgery, there was no need to change the depth chart if the Falcons expect him to be back to that soon. Either he's seriously hobbling or Will Svitek has simply overtaken him. I'd bet heavily on the latter, and it's a richly deserved promotion.
The Cornerback Depth Chart Goes Splitsville
Dominique Franks is starting outside this weekend. Sort of.
The Falcons coaching staff is basically going to try to get Franks and Chris Owens reps both outside and inside, because Franks will play outside in traditional packages. Owens, meanwhile, will start outside in nickel packages, with Franks moving inside. Given that the Falcons operate out of the nickel a lot, this will probably be a pretty even split.
Obviously, the coaching staff is high on both of these guys. Owens, in particular, is a Mike Smith favorite despite his occasional struggles. Franks is getting a real opportunity here despite some screw-ups in the Vikings game. While it's largely out of necessity that Owens and Franks are getting these chances, there is a level of faith here.
It'll be interesting—and maybe a little terrifying—to see them both in action against Houston.
Your thoughts on these reports?
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Zounds, I hope QB pressure occurs this week...
Stopping the run has been a strong point of this defense, but even with the rookie starting, stopping in and saying hi to the QB as soon as possible should be a top priority. I’m not implying that BVG and company don’t want pressure at all times, but, hell, at full strength our secondary has had some adventurous moments with inexperienced QBs behind center. Chris Owens as a starter grays my hair.
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Walls
Where does Darrin Walls fit in, if at all?
by FalconMisfit on Dec 1, 2011 1:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Remember when Grimes was first inserted into the lineup?
He had a rough go of it for a while, but eventually came around. The coaching staff kept saying how much of an upside he had, yet the “fans” kept screaming for a “taller” guy because he’s just too short. I think the coaches got that one right.
As far as Owens, he’s been in the system a few years and should be getting to the make or break point. I do remember him playing better on the outside when he got the chance. I’m sure if he goofs up this chance, he’ll be gone next year.
As far as Franks, he’s still a little green. Better to have him get some actual game experience before the playoffs (fingers crossed).
I will never forget how much I used to hate Grimes
but, boy has my opinion since changed!
Hopefully Chris Owens (FASTEST MAN EVER) will eventually turn my heart too. Our coaching staff sure does seem to have a way of farming talent
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
by MentallyMIA on Dec 1, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have to agree with you. I used to cringe everytime I heard Grimes' name...
He was always right there with the WR, but would get eaten alive… A funny thing happened though- ol’ Grimey learned to turn his head and look for the ball. The rest is history…
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Absolutely!!
The ball would just go right over his shoulder and be caught by the WR. I had forgotten how frustrating that used to be.. Hope Owens and Franks have learned something and gotten better since last year.
Not quite the fastest man.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Dec 1, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda like Bosher earlier in the season, I couldn't believe we were keeping him on those first few weeks
I couldn’t believe we were keeping him on those first few weeks
speaking
of Bosher, his punt averages last week were 50.4 yards.talk about a leg
*In Matt I Trust*
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I agree that Owens should play outside
and not nickle
That seems to be his strength.
Look at the last three 2009 games he played minus the TD he gave up against the Jets (the first game we won 10-7)
We need QB...
pressure and for one of these two to step up this Sunday…Period!!!
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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Help us all....
i think everyone should just pray w/ me
Atlanta Superbowls
by Atlanta Superbowls on Dec 1, 2011 4:13 PM EST reply actions
Bow ur heads......!!!!
Atlanta Superbowls
by Atlanta Superbowls on Dec 1, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Our Father...
in Heaven, before we go into battle every player from the Falcons will approach you, each in his own way. Our rivals, the Texans too, according to their own understanding, will ask for protection and for victory. And so we bow before your infinite wisdom. We offer our prayers as best we can. I pray that you watch over the young men like Matt Ryan that go forth onto the field battle; you use them as your instrument in this awful hell of football, to watch over them. Especially if they are men like the Falcons players deserving of a future and a Super Bowl victory in your blessing and good will. Amen.
Oh, yes, and one more thing, dear Lord — about our rivals? Ignore their heathen prayers and help us knock those little bastards right off the football field!! Amen again.
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Blowing them to bits ... in thy mercy.
Amen
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!
It's the prayer from...
“We Were Soldiers”…obviously, I modified it a little…hahaha…
"I'd run over my own mother to win the Super Bowl." - Joe Jacoby, formerly of the Redskins
"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
Monte Python and the Holy Grail's where I stole mine.
I couldn’t find my copy of Mark Twain’s “The War Prayer.”
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!
GOOGLE MAN...you can find anything...lol
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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
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by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 4:23 PM EST reply actions
Oilrig hand?
If it’s the same kind of oil rigs I’m thinking of, I don’t envy you. haha
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by Caleb Rutherford on Dec 1, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Drill rigs in the gulf and overseas in africa alot
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Wow nice
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by Caleb Rutherford on Dec 1, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Sometimes it's nice sometimes not so nice
But it pays well and is recession proof so I guess thats all that matters
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
You gotta do what you gotta do, for sure.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Dec 1, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
I love the fact that Franks is starting outside
But when in Nickle he flips to the slot and Owens plays outside. I’ve often asked myself why we didn’t take this approach earlier and have Grimes move inside and let Owens take the Nickle snaps outside
by FLA_Falcon on Dec 1, 2011 4:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I've asked the same question ...
Grimes is a born centerfielder.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!
Owens
Owens can do one thing very well.
Get you beat. We are in bad trouble when we go up against a good QB.
Do you see any positives in this organization?
Not trying to pick a fight, just curious…
by FLA_Falcon on Dec 1, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Of Course
Good shot at making the playoffs.But won’t stay there long. I think Smith is a great coach. BVG OK, MM, not so much. TD has done some good things, Ryan, Lofton, TG, Burner, and some not so good things, Robinson, Baker, Jerry, Jenkins contract, Julio trade (way too much IMO), overall reaching draft picks (2 3rd rounders on CSs that can’t cover a table).
Ask yourself this, are we closer or further from the Packers and the Saints this year? Will we be closer or further with them next year when we have no picks??
some of our best talent has come in the 5th round
and last I checked – we still have draft picks.
There is great value in the second and third and fifth rounds (with TD) – Jaquizz Rodgers (fifth round), Corey Peters (third round), Lawrence Sidburry (fifth round), Harry Douglas (third round), Thomas DeCoud (third round), Kroy Biermann (fifth round), and even Curtis Lofton and William Moore were second round picks.
We’ll be fine!
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
by MentallyMIA on Dec 2, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We’ll be fine!
Jaquizz Rodgers (fifth round) – hasn’t done squat and is not used to do squat
Corey Peters (third round) – starts because Jerry is a bust
Lawrence Sidburry (fifth round) – tired for the team lead in sacks with 4, speaks volumes about our pass rush (don’t have one)
Harry Douglas (third round) – keeper, makes you wonder about the Jones trade, don’t it
Thomas DeCoud (third round) – self promoter, ready for him to move on
Kroy Biermann (fifth round) – so good that we had to sign a FA for his spot, Sidburry too, both did not get the job done, and our free agent?? Well the jury is still out isn’t it
Curtis Lofton and William Moore were second round picks. Lofton good, but overrated by Falcon fans, Moore shows flashes , but is injured as much as not
Picks are no guarantee of being a better team
that should be apparant. What is critical is to get the most out of what you do pick and what you have on the roster. No picks is also inaccurate.
Being pessimistic is fine, I’m pessimistic, but you are off target appreciably on some of your points.
We will never be close to the packers or saints
Until we abandon the run game and give Ryan enough freedom to sling the ball around 30-40 times a game. Oh and ditch the Mehlarkey offense.
by FLA_Falcon on Dec 2, 2011 5:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't think we should...
“completely” ditch the run game but I would like to see it shift to more pass and use that to open up the run as opposed to the reverse that is generally thought our offense to be at the moment (which I am still not totally convinced we are right now…but majority rules on this one for now).
I would just like to see more “unpredictability” period…and…no MM!!
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"To win, I'd run over Joe's mom too." - Matt Millen, formerly of the Raiders
"We now have exactly the same situation as we had at the start of the race, only exactly the opposite" - Murray Walker, Sportscaster
That is the funny thing though
ATL isn’t a run first team this year or last year. So far ATL has passed 395 times and rushed 320 times. Well, I guess it depends on how your define “run first”.
QB pressure will be key
Pressure the kid to make mistakes.
I’d like to more Sidbury and Bierman on the left side in passing downs.
As goid as Edwards has been against the rush, Sidbury and Bierman look to put more pressure on the QB
by Magellan55 on Dec 1, 2011 5:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Grimes is an important player
BUT if ATL can’t step up and be competitive then they deserve to lose. BG is a DB not a QB, #1 RB or #1 WR. This is why a team builds depth and has a DC. Crap, I just killed my own arguement.
When you've made the sale ...
… ALWAYS stop selling.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!
Yea, if we can just get some quick pressure of the QB
then Owens and co. won’t need to cover their guys as long.. Step up Abe and Ray!
So for the record,
What’s up with Hayden again? He’s missed quite a few weeks in a row, IIRC.
Does anyone know when he’ll be back?
Hayden has a dislocated toe.
I have not heard a timetable for his return.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Vince Lombardi
by armchair quarterback on Dec 1, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
if so,
It’ll be interesting to see what rodgers would do with 15+ carries
by jgreedy on Dec 2, 2011 12:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
preferrably not against the best D in the league though.....
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
tender groin
which is concerning, b/c that’s what he was dealing with last year. Although he can still be a beast with it, he’s clearly not at his best.

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