30 Points--Is That a Magic Number for the Falcons?
I heard a really interesting statistic last night on some show on ESPN that I was not actually watching. It was so interesting, in fact, that even though I have no idea what show it was or who actually mentioned this particular gem of a statistic, I decided to write about it, anyway. I was brushing my teeth, and in the next room, my husband was watching some show, on which some guy said that if the Falcons can score 30 points against the Lions, the Falcons will definitely emerge victorious. He elaborated--in each of the Falcons’ three wins to this point in the season, they have managed to put at least 30 points on the board. In each of their three losses, the Falcons have racked up fewer than 30 points.
I spent some time on NFL.com comparing offensive stats from the Falcons’ wins and losses, and there are some trends that support the theory that the Falcons will win if they score 30 points. Hit the jump to find out if we can legitimately breathe a sigh of relief once the Falcons hit 30 points tomorrow, and why.
In wins, Matt Ryan’s stat line looks like this: 59 completions on 92 attempts; 649 total passing yards, and 6 passing TDs with 2 INTs. In losses, his stat line reads: 75 completions on 126 attempts, 816 total passing yards, 2 passing TDs and 4 INTs. When the Falcons lose, Ryan is throwing significantly more often and completing more passes, but not for touchdowns, and he’s also turning the ball over more via interceptions.
Perhaps the most glaring offensive comparison exists in rushing statistics for wins compared to losses. In games that the Falcons have won, Michael Turner has had a total of 74 rushing attempts for 323 yards and 6 rushing TDs. In losses, Turner has had 37 attempts for 176 yards and 1 rushing TD.
In that same vein, you can also see a trend by comparing the number of rushing and passing first downs attributed to the Falcons offense in wins versus losses. In games that the Falcons have won, they have had a total of 69 first downs, 26 achieved by rushing, and 37 achieved by passing. In losses, the Falcons have had a total of 59 first downs. Ten of those were rushing first downs, and 43 were passing.
The other statistic that stood out to me in comparing wins to losses for the Falcons was Red Zone Efficiency. Red Zone Efficiency in wins breaks down to an average of 91.5%, indicating that the offense is consistently capitalizing on scoring opportunities, paving the way for the Birds to score 30 or more points and walk away with a win. In losses, Atlanta’s Red Zone Efficiency average is a mere 37.5%.
There are also inconsistencies between wins and losses in time of possession, penalties and yards lost to penalties, and fumbles lost, but what is most apparent to me, and will not be a surprise to any readers of The Falcoholic, is that in games that the Falcons have lost, they are clearly not running a balanced offense. When the Falcons effect a balanced offense by establishing the run game with Turner and complementing it with a steady passing attack, they win games.
I am not buying that scoring 30 points is a magic ticket to a win for the Falcons in any given game. But, a balanced offensive attack has allowed the Falcons to score at least 30 points in each of their three wins this season, and in my opinion, there is no reason the Falcons should not be able to let Turner run all over the Lions’ 26th-ranked run defense and score at least 30 points. If the defense steps up, brings pressure on Stafford, and contains Calvin Johnson, 30 points should be enough to beat the Lions, although perhaps just barely, since Detroit is averaging 29.7 points per game so far this season.
What do you think? Are you going to kick up your heels and relax once the Falcons hit 30 on the scoreboard tomorrow? Do you think there is some validity to the statistics behind it, but it isn’t a magic formula? Or, do you think stats are for losers? Discuss!
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Stats are cool. Keep wearing the black jerseys,There winners. Turner off tackle. Mix in some playaction. Get away from the soft zone, maybe some man coverage. Mix up the defensive look. Go deep at least twice a game. Oh yeah! Wear them out with the no huddle. And score many times. Think that should do it.
by Grey Rider on Oct 22, 2011 11:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Go deep at least twice a game?
How about atleast twice a quarter? To establish a good and consistant run game, throwing deep keeps extra men out of the box to open holes for Turner (or Snelling/Quizz). Make defenses respect RW and JJ, but ALSO keep them aware that Turner can break one (or two or three). But for HEAVENS SAKE Mike Mularkey, NO “RRP” today (Run on 1st, Run on Second, Pass on 3rd and forever).
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!
That would be nice.
Would not hurt my feelings
to see that happen, off the play action. Your rite. It keeps the secondary honest. Hope Matt’s long ball is more accurate.
by Grey Rider on Oct 23, 2011 9:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting Analysis...
Looking at the three losses so far this season, opponents gained 31 (Bears), 16 (Bucs), and 25 (Pack) points. I’d throw the first game out since it was, well, the first game, and one in an unusual season with the lockout.
During last year’s losses, opponents gained 15 (away, OT, vs Steelers), 31 (away, vs Eagles), and 17 (home, vs Aints) points. With the exception of the Playoff Game That Shall Not Be Mentioned, the D is apparently fairly good at holding opponents to around at most 30 points. (Note: in 2010, the Bengals scored 32, but we won).
BTW, in 2009, opponents scored over 30 points in 4 of the 7 losses. So the D is also getting better with time.
Point is, the D, although sometimes maligned, has actually been the saving grace of this team. Even when giving up the big play, it can usually be counted on to make the stop when needed. Like you’re saying, the O needs to get around 30 consistently to seal the deal. Which in my book, still says coming out swinging in the second half!
Just more fodder against running the same old tired up-the-middle-for-the-loss-of-a-yard-play after doing a fairly good showing in the first half.
by williamandrews31 on Oct 22, 2011 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
BTW, I think we're going to win tomorrow!
We’ve tried out our new toys (Julio et al), and started to get back to work offence-wise against Carolina. We will continue to do so, have an easy week against the Colts, and be ready just in time for the Aints. So I’m prayin…
by williamandrews31 on Oct 22, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually broke down some defensive stats, too...
but they were so consistent between wins and losses that it really wasn’t relevant to this particular issue. I totally agree, the defense has gotten better over time and they are very statistically consistent.
I think we win tomorrow, too. And, I think tomorrow’s win will energize this team at a very opportune time.
by Jeanna Thomas on Oct 22, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing here is
The type of football the Falcons play (when we win,leaning on the run, long drives etc) lends itself to us dominating TOP. If we put up 30+ points, chances are we’ve had the ball for about 75% of the game. That could be a big factor there. That’s why I love the run game so much.
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by Turner_The_Burner on Oct 22, 2011 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
Honestly...
if we are putting up 30+ points, we should be winning those games. I did like the story though.
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Good stats but I think the most important ones are
Time of possession and turners run attempts. If hes over 25 attempts that means we have the ball more control the tempo usually equals a win.
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by CollegePark4Life on Oct 23, 2011 4:10 AM EDT reply actions
The difference in Turner's attempts between wins and losses...
kind of blew my mind. I knew there had been a difference, and knew Matt had thrown the ball a lot in those losses, but seeing the difference statistically in rushing attempts is really revealing, I think. Time of possession always matters, I agree.
by Jeanna Thomas on Oct 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
30
You better buy it. if you are depending on our D to hold a decent offense below the mid 20s you are dreaming.
Glad that Detroit is down to no running backs or it could be a long game for us, it might be anyway as I hear Robinson is going to cover Johnson. Well, cover is not the right word, “try to catch and tackle Johnson” is more accurate.
Confucius say:
Cover the Johnson or you may get knocked up.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
It used to be 24.
Of the 16 losses Ryan has endured in his career, only 3 came on a day where our D gave up less than 24 points. Usually the rule was “Keep them under 24, and Matty will do the rest”. Unfortunatley those 3 “less than 24” losses came last season and this season (PIT, NO, TB), so it’s not a rule anymore.
Editorial Note:
My Twitter friend @AaronSiders told me that the show I referenced was NFL 32 on ESPN. He said they are usually pretty Falcons-friendly, so I am probably going to start watching it all the time now.
It is an interesting statistic, but meaningless.
why not also say, if Falcons score 50 or 75 points a game, they will never lose!!
30 points is enough for most teams to win most games most of the time.
Braves.
Falcons.
Gamecocks.
I agree, the 30 points thing means nothing.
But the other offensive stats, particularly rushing, in wins vs. losses are very telling. DET’s run defense isn’t fantastic so hopefully we’ll establish a balanced offensive attack built around the run and play smart, disciplined ball today.
by Jeanna Thomas on Oct 23, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
On the other hand, it's an old wisdom...
…that you rush, when you win. Rushing Stats always correlate with winning becasue teams use to run out the clock at the end of the games, when leading. So this statistical correlation is a bit deceiving, Football Outsiders did a good piece on it on their Basics-page, debunking the myth that “establishing the run” wins games, even though the stats seem to suggest that causation.
by wiesengrund on Oct 23, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree with you
number of rushes/rushing yards and wins are correlated, but the reason and consequence are reversed in the minds of many people.
the more important stat that Jeanna mentioned is Red Zone efficiency. in the games we lose we do not do well in the red zone (even if we reach it). that might have something to do with playcalling. I’d say we lose when our coordinators turn their predictability mode on.
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Thanks for the positive article
glad to see you are still around.I think if we go up there,well the team, with a good positive attitude we can have a good game.Stats are for good for getting a notion of things to come but not fully how things will end up.
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