An Examination Of Atlanta Falcon Snap Counts Versus The Steelers
Enormous kudos to our own orang3b. It's his research that's making this post possible in the first place.
Basically, he counted snaps for every defender. There are limits to that, of course. You can't always see the secondary, and there are times when poor television angles obscure numbers. That needs to be acknowledged up front.
Still, these are about as close as we'll get to definitive, and they tell a very interesting story. After one game you can't ascertain any trends, but the snap counts may give us a clue of where the defense is heading. You'll see good omens for guys like Corey Peters, Kroy Biermann and Sean Weatherspoon. The crystal ball is a little cloudier for poor Stephen Nicholas, though.
Remember that in total, the Falcons were on the field for 60 defensive snaps. I bet you'll never guess one of the guys who survived all of them.
Hit the jump and discover a world of numbers unlike any you've seen before!
Defensive Line
Kroy Biermann, 43: I knew Mike Smith had to be blustering when he talked about being unsure who was starting opposite John Abraham. Duff Man was on the field for 43 snaps, more than Jamaal Anderson by a wide margin, leaving Anderson with only 17 at defensive end. Biermann's simply the superior option outside, and the team is well aware of that.
Trey Lewis, 29: Defensive tackle is shaping up to be a true rotation. Vance Walker started for Peria Jerry but ended up with fewer snaps. Anderson picked up 11 snaps inside. The big winners Sunday against the Steelers were Lewis and Corey Peters, who we'll get to in a moment.
Lewis went from being a long shot to survive final cuts to leading all his DT comrades in snaps. He was a force through much of the first half, though as orang3b notes, he seemed to wear down in the second half. Coming off of a series of almost comically devastating injuries, it wouldn't surprise me if conditioning was an issue. Big Trey is here to stay, though.
Corey Peters, 28: Remember when we hated the Peters selection? Yeah, what a bunch of jerks.
What strikes me about Peters is how fluid he looks on the field. We already knew he was a smart guy and a guy who would come prepared to play, but grace and agility aren't two attributes you often grant to the lumbering behemoths who patrol the front four. Peters is a gifted athlete, period, and he earned these snaps by being very disruptive up front. I don't think Pork Chop is ready to start full-time or anything, but you can see where he's got potential to create some very big headaches for opposing offenses.
Linebackers
Curtis Lofton, 60: It's official: Lofton is so good you can't keep him off the field. Anyone attempting to do so may find themselves face down on the turf, blue lights bathing their face, hearing the wail of sirens and wondering just where their once promising lives went so wrong.
This isn't going to be a rare occurence. There's nobody behind Lofton who could be reasonably expected to play significant snaps, and he was utterly dominant for stretches against the Steelers. He'll probably finish the season with the most snaps out of any Falcon on the defensive side of the ball.
Sean Weatherspoon, 60: Yeah, and this guy wasn't locked in as a starter. Give me a break.
Spoon wasn't even close to dominant. Let's get that out of the way. He has some problems taking the correct angle, and he isn't always the wrap-up tackler we'd like him to be. But he held his own out there as a starter, and the Falcons rewarded him by letting him play every defensive snap. That's pretty incredible for a rookie in this system, and the team isn't going to back off doing this. Lofton and 'Spoon will be the fixtures.
Stephen Nicholas, 15: What a meteoric fall from grace for Nickels. orang3b only saw him come in for the three lineman, three linebacker, five defensive back nickel sets, and I barely recall seeing him at all. The Falcons are legitimately convinced that Mike Peterson (33 snaps) is a better option, at least against the Steelers' run-heavy offense, and so Nicholas got very little playing time.
Will that continue? Probably. He'll likely get closer to 33% of the snaps most weeks spelling Peterson or 'Spoon, but the team views him primarily as a passing down guy. Hopefully they're maximizing the team's strengths here.
Defensive Backs
Dunta Robinson, Brent Grimes, Thomas DeCoud, Erik Coleman, 60 each: Holy crap!
We may have a little wonkiness here because these guys aren't in every frame, but the entire starting secondary played very close to the entire game. For a team that is heavily pushing rotations and spelling starters at every other position, this is borderline stunning.
This makes Robinson's failures look a little less glaring, considering how many plays he was involved in, and makes the other three look better. Coleman is primarily useful in run support and was regularly cheating up, but he had to have been active in coverage, too. I don't recall him embarrassing himself. With Brian Williams reasonably healthy, Coleman hurt and Chris Owens showing real talent, don't expect to see this happen every week.
Chris Owens, 27: Owens played primarily in the nickel, but he made the most of his 27 snaps by generally being a pain in the ass for the Steelers. Unless he starts, though, he's never going to see more than half the snaps in a given game. The Falcons don't spend any more than that in a nickel package.
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Dave
You need a little stealth ninja retcon action… I guess you didn’t check your email before posting this. I’ll go ahead and clarify, in case there are questions before you get a chance to fix it.
Kroy Biermann, 43: I knew Mike Smith had to be blustering when he talked about being unsure who was starting opposite John Abraham. Duff Man was on the field for 43 snaps, more than Jamaal Anderson by a wide margin, leaving Anderson with only 17 at Defensive End. Biermann’s simply the superior option outside, and the team is well aware of that.
FYI, John Abraham had 40 snaps. Anderson’s snaps at DT are correctly listed in Trey Lewis’ blurb (17 @ DE + 11 @ DT = 28 total snaps).
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Done and done
Sorry, I wasn’t up until about 11 a.m.
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by Dave Choate on Sep 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you do this every week?
If you do, I promise there’s a luke warm sixer of natty ice in your future! For serious though, very well done. We’ll show those PFFers yet!
I thought this was notable
(Dave alluded to it in the post, but I’ll spell it out)
While Peterson got more than twice as many snaps as Nicholas, he was not in either Nickle personnel package at all (5th DB was always Owens):
Standard Nickle – 4 DL, Lofton, Weatherspoon, 5 DB
3-3-5 Nickle – 3 DL, Nicholas, Lofton, Weatherspoon, 5 DB
So unless that was a specific game-plan for PIT (Nicholas spying on Dixon), we might not see much of Peterson against pass-heavy teams like New Orleans, Philly, and Green Bay.
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by orang3b on Sep 17, 2010 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So Nicholas' nickname is totally appropriate now
Stevie Nickles…as in mainly a nickle defender. Great work on the counts Orangerific one. No one should ever be able to call you an Orangina again.
by TheAreopagite on Sep 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Um... thanks?
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
rec'd
Makes you think twice. I certainly appreciated the pick, but I think folks are a little too quick to forgive Peterson’s ’09 campaign.
Agreed
At least they’re using him correctly this season…..in one game.
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By the way
DeCoud was kickin some ass last Sunday. He had some great plays…like where he took the whole receiver out of bounds to prevent a completion. That was amusing to me for some reason.
DeCoud was good
Solid tackling, good in coverage. This guy is developing into a great player.
by aces666high on Sep 17, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I love this blog
Its true. I'm a Falcoholic! I just can't live without Falcohol!
by phoenix falcoholic on Sep 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
We are underrated
We should one day grown from this and how our own network online or on TV.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Informative post, well done!
Rec’d with a little chill going down my spine. Great work, hope to see more like this as the season progresses.
Draft analysis
With some of the players from the most recent draft starting to see some action on the field, it would be interesting to see someone breakdown the success/failure rate of draft picks for the Smith-Demitroff era.
My gut reaction is that we’ve had far more hits than misses which, in my mind, would put us ahead of most NFL teams. Which is certainly encouraging now that we are starting to get some quality depth at several positions in addition to starters.
As for the D, I think this is what Mike Smith was hired for. I know the offense has gotten the most attention with the drafting of Ryan and the signing of Turner in the first year (and the subsequent success that season), but it seems that the D is finally starting to reflect Coach Smith’s philosophy now that he’s had time to assemble the key personnel.
Hopefully the D will continue to improve and if we can get our running game back on track, the two should give us the chance to win a lot of games.
by Leon07 on Sep 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
And that my friends
is why the Falcons and Saints will be Rivials
An offensive wizard versus and defensive guru, trying to prove which will build success the best.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
One other interesting tidbit
Lawrence Sidbury and Brian Williams were both included in the active 45 on game-day, but I didn’t see either of them on a single Defensive snap. Probably doesn’t mean anything (yet) – just one game…
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That's a strange outcome.
Does Smitty put players into a “doghouse?”
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
Smitty's Doghouse
Sounds like a video game.
(No animals were illegally fought in this house.)
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully its just caution
William’s value is as a veteran who can step in at multiple positions if we suffer a serious injury in the secondary during a game. I can see why the coaches might hold him on the sideline during a good defensive performance. No sense in risking his health when we will likely need him later in the year.
Sid is another matter. Again I could see the coaches not wanting to risk him getting injured during a strong performance by the starters. Also, Heinz’s field is a tough place to play for a guy who still may be a little raw on technique and overly depend on his speed to make an impact.
I love this stuff.
How did the Offense do? Oh wait, don’t tell me. But really, can you break down our db stats from last year and compare them with a few games this year in a few weeks? I know, homework right? You know you love it. I’ll buy you a beer or a steak for your effort.
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by Ball Hawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
be nice to see that too
but don’t want to overwork orang3b, I’m sure he has his day job.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought we were all getting Government checks these days.
You mean people still work? Wow that’s so 1950s.
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by Ball Hawk on Sep 18, 2010 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i wish I didn't have to work
I’m getting fed up with Kmart. I want to quit it to travel the world, but I don’t have the means to do that.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I want to do that (compare D-back stats)… just depends on if I can chart the games & churn out the numbers quick enough. Bye is Week 8 – maybe I can have 5+ games done by then so we can have some decent numbers to look at.
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Wow!
Any chance of a similar offensive breakdown? This is amazing
by FLA_Falcon on Sep 17, 2010 5:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Thanks
I wasn’t really planning on doing the Offense, just because the personnel packages are usually pretty obvious (Goalline = 3TE + Ovie + RB; 3rd & long = 3WR + Tony G + RB) and they don’t really have “rotations” (the 5 starting OL + Ryan play every snap)… but if you guys (and Dave) really want it, I could try to make something happen, at least for one game.
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Great to see
that Biermann is getting the position he deserves, especially after the monster preseason he produced.
I would be really curious to see what kind of downs they took him off the end for though. I would imagine the put in Anderson on near sure run downs and had Biermann in the rest of the time.
Yeah
That’s basically right. Anderson and Davis were the short yardage DE’s, and sometimes early in a series they would spell Biermann and Abe; but (for instance) the 3-3-5 Nickle package (3rd & mid-to-long) was always Biermann and Abe on the ends (NT was split between Jerry and Peters).
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
great stuff
Really outstanding analysis. Well done.
Lawrence Sidbury did not play a single snap? What about William Moore?
And I assume your tally is ONLY when we were on defense, right? No special teams tallies?
by Nick Mike-Mayer on Sep 17, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Only defense, correct
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by Dave Choate on Sep 17, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
U guys are awesome!
And I thought I watched the games closely!
by aces666high on Sep 17, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
orang3b watches them a lot more closely than I do
I’m just giving reaction to my observations and his fine work. Dude’s a Falcoholic legend.
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someone get this guy (orang3b) in the filmroom with guys like Jaws and Chuckie
But that’s incredible!!!
All 60 snaps for the rookie, Lofton, Grimes, Robinson, Coleman and DeCoud?
They should have gotten tired but still played well.
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Very well!
It’s encouraging, isn’t it?
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yes
once we get a rotation going.
Guys can be fresh.
And no one got majorly injuried.
And it proves many players can last through overtime with no plays off.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks man
Brilliant work recording the snaps.
by Turner_The_Burner on Sep 18, 2010 5:12 AM EDT reply actions

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