Matty Ice, Michael Turner the Burner, Falcons Rise up...Rescinded???
Child Please!
(Not sure what this whole "The Jump" is about but "whatever")
Just got through rewatching the Falcons Steelers game finally (due to going to work almost everyday since last Friday). And although most of us are over what happened...for the rest of you guys, let me mention this.
Even more so I wasn't too disspointed with the OVERALL performance of the Falcons.
Facing a stern, traditional respected defense on the Road as the Steelers, you should understand why we had a 9-9 game going to overtime.
You can refer again to this post I made about 5 months ago http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2010/4/21/1435164/big-ben-suspended-for-our-game
Outside of that, understand that we didn't just lose to a third string QB. Many hidden gems including QB come from the reserves of a team. Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme (before he started throwing INTs), Aaron Rodgers, Mike Vick, Matt Schaub, Phillip Rivers, to an exent Joe Flacco, Ryan Grant, Miles Austin, etc. Guys that rise up from the background because of an injury or suspension or ineffective play to the guy(s) infront of him. It's just a matter of the when the Steelers may make him the permanent starter, or holding him for ransom for a very interested team in a season or two.
Because of the 08 Ravens Road game, I can see Dennis Dixon as a guy who can make plays, and that's what he can do. Even if he isn't accurate, he's good enough to make plays when needed. But still we held him to 9 regulation points after all that.
Now you are mad not because of the Defense (however late that was somewhat of an issue that led to a field goal). It's our offense that you don't like. And Malarkey's head for hanging.
Well Geez, after watching that game, what else could Matt Ryan do?
The run game was stuffed for all our RB. I'm surprised we even got nearly 40 yards rushing. Although Douglas and Weems had about two catches each and looked promising, they apparently were limited and developing options at best. Tony Gonzalez seemed covered all game and couldn't seem to get open enough. No Michael Jenkins and his replacement was a no show for some reason (so he wasn't ineffective due to injury). Roddy White and Matt Ryan was our offense. Under pressure all day and the game in his hands, White was about the only option he had to get open, and a major reason we had 9 points at all.
Maybe White was Ryan's hot route, because I never seen Roddy White get open enough so many times before (it was a career day) Maybe that's a new wrinkle in the offense. Imagine how much better we could be once Douglas and Weems develop in the offense, and Jenkins comes back, we find some rhythm and maybe A Smith can make some plays against a not as stout defense. And that's just the beginning.
Ryan under pressure got rid of the ball and only had one pick all game. Against that defense that's pretty amazing. Now I won't disagree with you guys about him having happy feet and sometimes not setting his feet to make a more accurate throw. Remember Ryan comes from Boston College with a bad Oline and limited talent, so that's probably what he's used to. Ryan managed the game with the no huddle with limited Talent, and not much of a running game and protection. On the Road where he doesn't win much, he didn't do too bad.
"Turner's slow Turner's slow, he isn't running with passion, he's lost confidence."
I think you guys are looking at it the wrong way. Whether or not he's slow doesn't make a RB effective in my eyes. It's being able to get yards when you can, however you can. Was Norwood and Snelling any better? In my eyes...no. And it's not discredit to them. It's the Steeler Defense and the Falcons offensive line ineffectiveness.
People talk about how we should use Norwood like the Saints Reggie Bush...and although I don't disagree and would like to see Norwood used effectively, remember how they said Reggie needs to run through the Tackles, isn't that great of a Running Back...yada yada. It's because it's not Reggie Bush's Style. Just like Turner running like Norwood, Bush, or CJ2000. I mean aren't there times when those fast speedy RB get stuffed at the line? We have so much expectations for Turner, the moment he has one bad game, we are off his bandwagon and criticize his efforts. Again, 2008 has spoiled us. (that year has spoiled me too for other non-football related reasons). Turner's style isn't quite to blow by people. He's a patient runner, looking for holes to run through, following his blockers, and power through them, break tackles and fight for the last few yards. Norwood and Smith aren't like that. Snelling is a little bit like that, but I need to see more from him.
What I saw from Turner is his game. He tried running through the middle, he tried cutting to the outside some times, and even tried catching some passes, but the Steeler Defense put them in 3 and long situations. There was a lot of pentration before Turner got to where he needed to get to, even with the linemen pulling to the other side.
The one knock about Turner is I do think he may not look down the field early enough, and might miss a hole opening after the play starts as he's focused on the original design of the play. Norwood moreso makes this exception, and again Reggie Bush was accused of always trying to bounce it to the outside and then getting stuffed, something some us wanted Turner to do. But the Steelers line is too fast for that mess.
Atlanta Falcons, not rising up? Actually that's far from the truth. We are again looking at it wrong. I think it means we are standing up more to the challenge. In the commercial it says, If/When we fall down we Rise Up. We fell down and now we have to rise up again and await our next challenge. We are still rising, and more time during the season to shine.
The problem I saw with the Falcons was although we played well, we had lapses at the worse possible times. On defense early in the final quarter, gave up too many big plays. Ryan was baited in throwing his ONLY pick at the wrong time, as for some strange reason the Steelers let White be the only guy to get so many catches for so many yards (unSteeler-like....or was it?) Maybe that's what they wanted Ryan to do so late in the game he would stare down his only reliable option. And in overtime made four bad plays almost consecutively. Ovie Mughelli hold that set us in bad field position. Sam Baker's hold when we got the first down. Koenen's bad punt to give the Steelers good field position, and our classic way of losing close games biting hard (Steeler non calls on hold or not) and giving up a big running play. Had anyone of those plays didn't happen, we might had had a chance to win and probably would have.
I still think we did the right thing about not going for a score with 39 secs at our own 30 after a Polamulu pick. It's the second half when it's more. In the first half for 22 seconds there are different dynamics at work. I'm actually amazed they got the field so fast in the first half in that time. That usually doesn't happen.
Guys, I'm not your father, nor should I tell you how to root and criticize our team with our emotions. But in this case, lay off Ryan and Turner. Taper our expectation of them. They aren't superheroes, they are humans. The commentator (who usually know more about the fundamentals of football more that we ever may on average still praised Matt Ryan, and rightfully so. He could have done worse.
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Well said, I thought.
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Awesome!!
I leave yesterday and there were no comments
I come back this early afternoon and find four recs
I hope there are more pleasant surprises in the future…
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Sweet!!!
Keep them coming brother.
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by Ball Hawk on Sep 17, 2010 4:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dude, you should start a weekly "Why I am optimistic" piece
this was great stuff and I cannot disagree with any of your points
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Well see
What’s ironic is
I’m 90% plus pessimistic.
But you wouldn’t know it here.
I do believe in optimism and the like, but only if it’s reasonable realistic and possible.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 18, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
haha... I poke my head around here enough to see how pessimistic you are
this was a nice change of pace for you and I can tell you put some effort in finding the good in our football team.
The easy answer was: we lost because the Steelers actually are a good football team and they were the better team on Sunday.
You just went a lot deeper than that and it was a very inspiring post. I liked it a lot
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
I try
Again…Ironically a weakness I have is finding clear cut examples to things, but I can find general things to point out.
Yet when talking about a passion, I have a tendacy to remember things pretty well..
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
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Child Please!
This was funny, hehe.
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Ryan wasn’t as bad as his stats. This was a healthy Pittsburgh defense playing against a third year quarterback. Regardless of what the media says, he is not Peyton Manning. He probably won’t ever be Peyton Manning. But he will be one of the top quarterbacks in the league one day.
The glaring weakness that game was the poor blocking of the O-line, and the play calling that would not adjust to a blitz heavy defense. Norwood was more effective against them then Turner because he is the fastest thing alive on two feet. But yet, we only gave him 3 opportunities to make a play. I said earlier this week, if we are so scared of him getting hurt that we won’t use him, what good is he to the team.
When we put pressure on Dixon he made mistakes, but too many times we only sent 3 or 4 guys after him. So we took his inexperience out of the equation and he showed what he is. A physically talented young QB. If the Steelers D is really as good as they looked on Sunday, they will be 4-0 with him.
Secondary still has some work to do to stop the big play, but I think that will come as the season progresses. Without the big plays, we hold them to 250 yards of offense, and what one or two field goals. Steeler’s have a good line, it showed because our LBs were making all the tackles on run plays. Also, how can you stop a big pass play when you can’t put pressure on the QB. Turn those double teams into one on ones and someone will be getting through and either force an early throw/check down, a throw away, or a sack.
To sum it all up, it comes down to coaching. Adjusting to what is happening on the field, changing your game plan.
Forgot to add something
Coaches have to have a little more faith in our players, especially our young secondary. I think once Dunta knocks the rust off, and Owens gets more reps we will have a very talented group out there.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Sep 18, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps you have a point
The adjustments (if any) were not excuted well enough by the coaches or players in that game for us to dominate.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I won't disagree with you about Norwood
It makes sense
To negate a blitz you have to use speed that goes away from a blitz…like a delayed draw. Norwood could do that if you run a screen or something like the Touchdown he had in the 08 Saints home win we had.
In the 08 Playoff loss to the Cardinals I was wondering why Norwood wasn’t used more.
Weren’t the Cardinals blitzing Ryan in that game like the Steelers were?
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't remember
that game too well. BUt I think Ryan had too many INTs. But teams are going to blitz the hell out of us all year long if we don’t adjust.
In my rant on Norwood I did forget he is returning kicks, and looks like he is 2 or 3 steps away from breaking it each time. But if that’s all he will contribute then we need to get another change of pace back. Snelling is good in his own right, but is too similar to Turner in run style. He isn’t as quick as Turner in the open field, but he he is a good backfield receiver. I think we could possibly get something for him this year, and look for another quick receiving back if we aren’t going to trade Norwood. But one of those guys needs to go I think. Especially IF (and I emphasize IF) Turner struggles with tough defenses again this year.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Sep 19, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I got that game on my DVR
I think he only threw one INT…no more than two and the first one was early in the first quarter.
What killed us were a few things.
The Fumble in the second quarter.
Giving up two big plays for TDs
And the safety that should have been an incomplete pass.
Norwood was close to breaking a lot of returns in 2007 such as one or two in the Titans game.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Second Half
not second quarter
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Good post, Bro-B. Someday, I want to be as optimistic as you.
Come to the Dark Side. Let your frustration make you STRONG!!
Really, I appreciate the more rational side. It’s just not my gift.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
After the evening I had at work today
I don’t see any optimism for myself.
Bro B…got a good ring to it
I use brotherbrown because a coworker at Footlocker used to call me that years ago, and I remember it, and decided to claim it.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Optimism is great but must be tempered by a dose of reality
We probably do expect too much from Ryan, he is just starting his third year and missed a few games last year, so he doesn’t have that much starting experience under his belt.
In my opinion, as I’ve said many times, the issue with our offense is with Mehlarkey. The OC is not setting up schemes to take pressure off Ryan or to stretch the field to make the run game more effective. When the QB is averaging a little over 4 yards per pass attempt the defense can stack the box. It’s hard to run againts that.
Maybe so
But I’ll be more convinced once Mularkey is gone (if he ever leaves or gets fired) and a OC that you like favor is hired in his place to see if the problem with our offense is truly him.
I’m not saying you guys are wrong. I don’t see any other Mularkey supporters on this blog other than me, so there’s got to be validity about Mularkey’s ineptness, but I still think it’s at worse…suspect until I see some obvious evidence (that I believe of course).
I know a clan of people can all believe the same thing and by committee appear to be right, and still be mislead. That’s why I always try to think beyond whenever I can.
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by brotherbrown on Sep 19, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
hmm
So maybe Turner was slow becuase he knew that if he pushed it he was going to agrivate that groin injury like he did yesterday… and he was not slow yesterday.
Life is a garden. Dig it!
by Hardcore Falcon on Sep 20, 2010 7:43 AM EDT reply actions
Ooooohh! I was upset that he went into the locker room for a groin pull.
That’s an injury?
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
Ask John Abraham
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by brotherbrown on Sep 21, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes it is, not as bad as a hamstring pull, but it is painful and will slow you down. It will also heal a lot faster than a hamstring.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Sep 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, it was a bad joke. part 2 of it is:
I have a restraining order to keep me from pulling my groin.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?

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