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Matt Bryant's Future Will Be Decided In Falcons-Jaguars Game

Matt Bryant can feel the heat.

He knows as well as anybody else that the way he's kicked in the pre-season is not going to guarantee him a roster spot. He knows that the Falcons have a sordid history at kicker over the last several seasons, one that means that Mike Smith's finger is going to be a little more itchy on the trigger. He knows there's a lot working against him.

Say what you will about Bryant, but he's no wimp. If it were just a question of mental toughness and focus, no doubt he'd clear this hurdle with room to spare.

But I don't believe it's his mind that is failing Bryant. I think it's his leg.

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This Associated Press article is required reading for Falcons fans. In many ways, it articulates everything we've been discussing about Bryant for the last few weeks. It also shows us that the Falcons are not endowed with infinite patience:

"That's one of many concerns I have,'' coach Mike Smith said Tuesday. "You've got to kick the ball between the uprights, especially on extra points. When you're kicking a 50-yarder, it's a little bit different situation. But we've got to make extra points.''

For his part, Bryant blames switching up his motion after nearly falling down on the baseball diamond against the Dolphins, which makes plenty of sense. But it ignores the other field goals he's missed this pre-season, or the fact that Bryant only hit three of five field goals last season. It ignores the fact that he's now on shaky ground in a job that he was given with only the most fleeting of challenges from Steve Hauschka. It's becoming increasingly apparent that Bryant's accuracy is slipping, and signs of that are there that we never saw before Jason Elam fell apart last season. It's troubling.

I think the Falcons have to kick the tires on the losers of other battles around the NFL, but after really taking a close look at the candidates, it's unlikely they'll find anybody better on paper than Bryant. The best option by far would be Shayne Graham, who has a career 85.2 percent field goal make rate, but if he loses to Billy Cundiff in Baltimore the Ravens are a seriously screwed up team. Everybody else has been about the same or worse than Bryant in their careers.

It's just deeply frustrating to me that the Falcons can't seem to lock down a solid kicker to take care of things. The SI article mentions Jay Feely, but even he wasn't all that great in his last two seasons in Atlanta. From there, we've relied on an ancient Morten Andersen to bail us out from a series of miscues, and then Bryant himself to bail us out from Jason Elam's sudden and terrifying implosion last season. Uncharacteristically for a team that has kept an eye on its future at all times, the Falcons have repeatedly patched kicker with the most ragged bandages they can find.

So here we are, with Matt Bryant needing to kick well in an otherwise meaningless pre-season game to save a job he looked to have all but locked up. I hope he succeeds. If he doesn't, the Falcons could be in a hell of a lot of trouble if and when the offense stalls out on the 30 this season, whether it's Bryant or Kris Brown or someone we haven't even considered making the attempt.

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I've been thinking about this a good bit lately

The Football Outsiders guys say that Field Goal Percentage is “almost entirely random from season to season” (NY Times article). Check out this list of Kickers: there are several guys at the top AND bottom of the list. In particular, Olindo Mare was terrible in 2006 and 2007, but was 24/26 (at age 36) last year in Seattle.

At 35, Bryant should still have some productive years left, but I agree that the team can’t wait 11 games into the season (like last year) to find out if he has really bounced back.

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by orang3b on Sep 1, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

The big difference being

Mare is/was known for his big leg… seems like more room for error as he ages.

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by orang3b on Sep 1, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, look at the Panthers.

John Kasay isn’t known for his leg, to my knowledge, but he’s as accurate as anyone in the business.

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by Zippo729 on Sep 1, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

John Kasay

IS the Carolina Panthers. They haven’t ever let him go, and for good reason. He beat up the Saints alot among others.
The Ravens last year let go of Stover who was with the Ravens when they were the OLD Cleveland Browns…although he did miss the kick in the superbowl.

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's also a UGA Bulldog. Har har har har.

But you’re right. He has to be at least 65 years old by now, but he still makes almost all his kicks. It’s very impressive.

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by Zippo729 on Sep 1, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

They have had to carry a Kickoff Specialist (Rhys Lloyd) the last few years, but that’s not a problem for us with Koenen handling KO’s.

On the other hand, he’s still probably got a bigger leg than Bryant. Kasay is 37/74 (50%!!) on FG’s over 50 yards in his 18 year career. Bryant is only 3/12 on 50+ kicks (in 8 seasons).

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by orang3b on Sep 2, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting ...

It’s a fine line the FO and coaching staff has to walk. I’d argue it’s more random for some kickers, even if they somehow find themselves on the top and bottom of that list.

And Vanderjagt was a beast in ‘03, I’m not sure we’ll ever see that again.

by FrankyWren on Sep 1, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

Our offense is not as explosive as the Saints’ offense from a year ago (or maybe even this year). I wish that I could say otherwise. Maybe they’ll prove me wrong, but I digress.

The Falcons offense is highly dependent on FGs to bolster their scoring. They are a typical 2 or 3 TD and 2 or 3 FG per game type of team…Thus, we NEED a strong kicker. Kicking cost us a few games last season, and I fear it will again this season.

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by Jman781 on Sep 1, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

There are just two things I'm asking for

1) a consistent kicker
2) for Jenkins to step up and catch as great as he blocks.

Is that too much to ask for?

by Fear Me on Sep 1, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Let me qualify that statement:

Jenks was a horrible blocker in ’08 and ’09. Or so says Pro Football Focus.

Check it out:
According to Pro Football Focus, his blocking value was -1.7 in ‘09, which ranked 40/63 WRs who participated in 60 percent of their team’s offensive snaps. He was either mediocre or below average (although he was never absolutely horrible) in every week, except one. In week 9, his blocking value was 1.2, and Burner rushed for 150 yards and 2 TDs.

Jenks’ blocking value in ‘08 was -1.9, which ranked 41/59 WRs who participated in 60 percent of their team’s offensive snaps.

Simply stated, he can block on occasion, but he’s by no means a “good blocker,” if you take ‘08 and ’09 into account. Was he a good blocker at one point? Maybe. But I can’t find anything to prove that he still retains that ability.

by FrankyWren on Sep 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what makes it so challenging to defend him

He’s basically average in every way you could possibly think of. On a team with some excellent front line receivers, he’d be a great backup. On this team, he’s a starter.

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by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We shoul put this post in a part of the heading at The Falcoholic home page.

" where birds sing power ballads and Michael Jenkins has been effectively mediochre at blocking". We do repeat this topic bi-weekly.

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by Ball Hawk on Sep 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thanks for the Jenkins tutorial

so let me rephrase my second point

 2) is it too much to ask for Jenkins to step up?

by Fear Me on Sep 1, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

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by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

........
On a team with some excellent front line receivers, he’d be a great backup. On this team, he’s a starter.

fuuuuu……

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by Zippo729 on Sep 1, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Average is so

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like I'm always making excuses but...

Mat B has a leg.He has two in fact, but I digress.To me being able to just get it there is the first hurdle and he has that down.Remember the other guy when he kicked the fifty yarder his kick bounced off the bottom bar or something close while mats kick went wide but did you notice that it was way up there.Plenty of leg.I’m not a kicking coach but to me that tells me its technique.A matter of aim.None the less as Fear Me says I’d like a consistent kicker.The thing is is there anyone out there significantly better or are we just looking for someone to replace someone who is not much better as someone else.I do agree with the article that we should have done a better job on this position.

by JT131 on Sep 1, 2010 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Whats our options?

Is their any UDFAs somwhere or anybody we can sign or trade for?

by LORD91 on Sep 1, 2010 9:35 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Mort! Mort! Mort!

Rec’d

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by TomQ on Sep 1, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

can Morten Andersen still kick? I thought that age is not a big factor for placekickers

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by Gemini-RU on Sep 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

we could go that rout… or just try some drop-kickers from a rugby league somewhere

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by MentallyMIA on Sep 1, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmm pipe dreams

(homer drools)

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait...what about Morten coaching the kickers?

is there such a thing as a kicker coach?

Atlanta will win a championship....someday

by maxxj3 on Sep 1, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Just like keeping Finn as a WR coach.
Peterson as a LB Coach. Primetime as a Secondary coach. Abe as a D Line Coach and so on.

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by brotherbrown on Sep 2, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

But isn’t Mortensen Still doing the Training Camp West Coast edition from ESPN?

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd...

Greeeeeen. FrankyWren. Green.

by XBEARDX on Sep 2, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just find it amazing

That we’ve left it till this late. Sure we thought that Bryant would be the answer, it’s just how could the team dump Haushcka so confidently after he really did nothing wrong?

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by Grayson on Sep 1, 2010 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

that's puzzling

judging by how quickly they cut him one would imagine he was so much worse than Bryant…

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by Gemini-RU on Sep 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

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by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

FA Kickers

Either Kris Brown or Neil Rackers will be available shortly from the Texans….

by Spencaman on Sep 1, 2010 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I demand Neil Rackers

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by Zippo729 on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I love a nice rack

….Of field goals I mean

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roll of the Dice.....

Although Rakers has been ok in recent years, he’s also had some Feelyesque chokes for AZ…..and the reason Brown might be available is because of some huge late misses that effectively kept the Texans out of the playoffs last year……that said, sometimes kickers settle down when they move to a new team (i.e., Prater in Denver), and it looked like maybe Bryant would do the same here after the bad situation in TB…..even if he keeps the job, wouldn’t be surprised to see the Falcons use a practice squad spot on a young kicker

by jkaflagg on Sep 1, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Falcons gave up too soon on Garrett Lindholm

He did get picked up and released by the Colts after we cut him, but we don’t have a guy like Adam Vinatieri as our starter…

Football is played with an oblong ball. Take your roundball and GTFO...

by NaGaNole on Sep 1, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

kicking woes / active offense

I am not concerned about this situation in Atlanta. Matt Bryant on paper has had bad pre- sesons before * 2008- where he later went on to have one of his best years. I dont really follow or check kicker stats too often …but I can tell you, that there had to be a reason why the coach let the other guy go. Maybe it was something in practice that we didnt see. Who knows? Kickers can go up or down. I’m giving Braynts experience the benefit of the doubt. I remember many kicks in overtime or to win , he KICKED to beat us when he played for Tampa. I’m looking forward to seeing how it plays out ??

by falconfanz on Sep 1, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Hauschka punched Mike Smith in the face

I can’t think of any other legitimate reason. Even if he’s not doing stellar in practice, you keep him around until the third pre-season game to see what he can do.

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by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are alot of more important postions to worry about and get a good look at guys. Not to stay kicker isnt important. I wanna see us go for it! I feel like I am wasting time even posting about a kicker. In a few games IF he doesnt miss this wont even be a subject to talk about. We need to stay injury free and worry about the offense getting their stuff together , so we do not have a repeat of last weeks sicking preformance. Real games start next week. They need to polish up before we play any real teams, like new orleans!

by falconfanz on Sep 1, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

But you would do that to Mike Smith?

Would you?

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL...

rec’d.

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by TomQ on Sep 1, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that would be Koenen

Now that I think about it.
It makes sense
Koenen wants his 2006 job back by default.

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Justin Medlock

I’d still like to throw my support behind Justin Medlock. The guy has earned an actual shot at the NFL. Every time he has kicked in an NFL situation he has preformed well (I admit the small sample size) and last year proved to be the best K in the CFL. His attempt to catch on with the NFL this year led Toronto to release for a guy that doubles as a DB (I just like telling people that because I think its awesome!). Go with Medlock and we won’t be sorry.

by AErskine on Sep 1, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I also like Medlock

The problem is, he’s still got a stigma from missing ONE field goal and being released in Kansas City, and confidence shaken, he wasn’t able to win a job with the Rams after that. I think he’d be an excellent choice, but there you are.

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by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn are you a scout?

I mean who is Medlock?

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by Ball Hawk on Sep 1, 2010 7:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm familiar with Medlock through fantasy football

In a rookie only draft, I rolled the dice on Medlock above kids like Mason Crosby, Nick Folk, etc., because I was such a big believer in his accurate leg. This is a scoring only league, too, so kickers are much more valuable.

To me, Herm Edwards booting Medlock off the team after one game and one miss—albeit a criminally easy chip shot—perfectly encapsulates the problem with NFL coaches. Medlock, if given a chance, could have been at least a quality kicker in the NFL. Instead, he became an instant pariah and has never gotten a real shot at another job in the league, just because his moronic coach wasn’t willing to give him a chance.

He was replaced by Dave Rayner, who made an embarrassing 68% of his field goals, before they finally locked down the position for five games with a perfectly accurate John Carney. Teams are so unwilling to give young kickers a chance that we’ve ended up in a world where only half the teams in the league have someone they can rely on, and everyone else is digging amongst the 35-year-olds.

It’s indefensibly stupid, in my opinion.

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by Dave Choate on Sep 1, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Everything Dave Choate said is accurate. NFL coaches give up way too easily on younger kickers. Ironically it was KC giving rookie Ryan Succop a shot last year after being drafted last overall.

Medlock had a solid career at UCLA going 70/88 FGs and 147/148 PATs. After not catching on with the NFL he went up to Canada where he being the league’s most accurate kicker (while doubling as the starting punter). He tried to catch on with the Redskins and the Lions this training camp, but was released by both. I still have confidence in him. He showed great success in the Canadian game that relies on kickers to succeed. They work with only 3 downs and play on a 110 yard field. (So I watch Canadian football.)

by AErskine on Sep 1, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree

Dave Choate is one of the Smartest Head Coaches in the NFL. I’m glad he gave Hauscka a chance to be the next Vinateri/Kasay for the 33 team in the NFL.

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ron Pitts said it best in the 2007 Jaguars game

“Billy Cundiff where are you?”

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

We don't need no stinkin' kicker!

Go for it on 4th down and get them 2 point conversions! The NFL is too conservative anyway. Coach Smith need to start a new trend in the league… Having a pair!

by FLA_Falcon on Sep 1, 2010 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Can I get an Amen?

Or at least explore the option of a Kangaroo/MMA boxer for a kicker?

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by brotherbrown on Sep 1, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with all the kickers is that...

99% can make 100% from inside the 30 yd line, but only 80% can make them inside the 40 yd line, and then only 40% can make them inside the 50, and only 20% can make them OVER the 50 yd line.
Basically their all packed together in talent, and nobody really sticks out in talent and ability – WHY? Cause todays game does not promote the kickers being a major part of the game and therefore building on their abilities – you see, more teams need to try 55 yd FG’s!! All the kickers do is kick from 40 yds and in – no coaches hardly want to try anything longer anymore, hell they’ll go for it on 4th down instead.
 How many times have you seen a team at their opponents 35 yd line with a 4th down and 4, and freakin’ go for the 1st down, instead of trying the 52 yd FG!! WHY!!!!??
 Yes, Mike Smith should start a new trend of growing a pair – and going for the FG – OH WAIT – we can’t do that – bryant SUCKS from 50 and beyond! Darn!! lol

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by ATLsince1972 on Sep 2, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Advanced NFL Stats

Part 1; Part 2; Part 3; Part 4

Going for it on 4th and 4 at the 35 is absolutely the right call.

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by orang3b on Sep 2, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Coach Smith and Dimitroff need to be in houston Saturday morning...

To make sure they sign either Kris Brown or Neil Rackers, whichever one gets cut, they need to be standing outside the practice facility waiting on them to come walking down the damn sidewalk!!

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by ATLsince1972 on Sep 2, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Can anyone confirm this??...

I heard that the players that start the 4th preseason game are the starters for this season. Meaning he runs out all the starters for the first series then sits them down. So whoever comes out to start the game in EVERY phase of the game are officially the starters for the season. Anybody else ever heard that coach smith likes to do this? Or maybe this is just common or even a given in the NFL??

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by ATLsince1972 on Sep 2, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

not like a major source or anything, just talking with the guys...

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by ATLsince1972 on Sep 2, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

It usually works that way

But coaches like to throw a few curveballs, too. I wouldn’t put too much stock into it just yet.

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by Dave Choate on Sep 2, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

How funny would it be...

If Coach Smith, just to mess with ATLsince1972, trotted out JA98 at QB for the first series?

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by Jman781 on Sep 2, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, thats not funny man!!

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by ATLsince1972 on Sep 2, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I am trying to fill up my free fantasy league at NFL.com. Every NFC team is represented by a fan, in the proper divisions. The live on-line draft is on Tuesday September 7th at 9:00PM EST. Unfortunately, I still need teams from the Falcons, Bucs and Eagles. If any of you are interested in helping us complete our league by representing the Falcons, that would be great. At NFL.com, the League ID is 94216 and there is no password required. Please only join if you will be at the draft and stay active all year.

by joinmyleague on Sep 2, 2010 2:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Nick Novak...

I’d like to see us give this guy a shot. He’s currently with the Chargers, competing with Nate Kaeding. I’m a little biased because I played soccer with him in High School, but I think he’s pretty solid. Wouldn’t hurt to try him out…

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