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Falcons Whittle Down Roster, Cut Two

Mike Smith and Thomas Dimitroff are swinging axes. It must be cutting down time!

Unfortunately for tackle Mark Ortmann and Gabe Derricks, they got in the way of said axes. The Falcons must cut down to the 75 man limit before the next pre-season game against the Jaguars, which means you're going to see a lot of guys who were training camp cannon fodder on their way out the door.

Derricks is no surprise. He was essentially signed so that the team wouldn't run out of cornerbacks or safeties in a pre-season game, which would be a little bit embarrassing. Ortmann did latch on only a week ago, but the team must be confident that the offensive line will be healthy and ready for action early on.

The next round of cuts? Guards Blake Schlueter and Jose Valdez, fullback Dan Klecko, linebacker Robert James and defensive end Emmanuel Stephens would seem to be likely choices. Once we need to get down to the final roster, you'll see some more familiar names like Ryan Wolfe and Rafael Bush probably on the chopping block. Alas, we hardly knew them!

Discuss these cuts and those upcoming here.

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I'm still interested to see how the WR thing shakes out.

1.Roddy
2.Jenkins?
3.HD
4.Finn
5.Weems
6.?

I really believe we have to carry 6 WRs because we really don’t know how long it will take Jenkins to recover. He had a broken clavikal. My friend had that and it took months to heal fully. We need insurance. I think we have enough swing guys everywhere else to afford an extra WR. What do you guys think?

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 9:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

790 the zone.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If it is a coller bone

He can play in 4-6 but I’m pretty sure won’t be dropping his shoulder in on blocks and his range of motion will be pretty limited for a while.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bryant?

Ay you guys think we should pick bryant or coles there an upgrade over jenks and i think cincy still responsible for bryants contract this yr.

by pierre02 on Aug 29, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I would even with his knee at the right price.

Now if Cincy cut him the contract is finished do long as they payed a settlement which they have.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 3:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If we add him to the squad

then fine. but I wouldn’t get rid of Jenkins for him at this stage in the game. He’s too “iffy” in attitude and conditioning

by Fear Me on Aug 29, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bryant no, Coles maybe, if he can still play

Tmk, Bryant is not well-liked.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, to either side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham

by Zippo729 on Aug 29, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

after all

It was bryant who smitty famously got in the face of on the sideline during the 08 campaign.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on Aug 29, 2010 7:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

you mean he went back?

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. NFL.com told me so.

And if you can’t trust them who can you trust? LOL

by thisistherevolt on Aug 30, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We may not even have a sixth

Wolfe Harvey and Bergeron (pending AFL) will probably go to practice squad.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jenks don't heal fast enough

Can’t they put him on the Physically Unable to Perform List, or is it too late?

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They won't.

He will be starting but the question is will it be week 1 or week 3?

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

exactly

I hate the inflexibilty of the NFL
At least MLB allows you to put player on DL for 15 days at any point and open the roster for someone in the minors.
We should have a system like that for 4 weeks on the DL.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Wolfe gets cut I'll be disappointed

because he hasn’t be given much game time so far. Wonder if that might be due to his practice performance.

6 WR’s is a good idea because I don’t think Finn will make it through an entire season if he plays a lot.

by mwalex on Aug 29, 2010 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

The Falcons need to shore up the offense.

The way I see it, the Falcons are in the same position The Cardinals were in after decades of being the doormat of the entire NFL. The Cards took a gamble on a new head coach after dicovering the one they had (Denny Green) was just like Obama “it’s everyone else’s fault if we lose or things go wrong” The buck starts and stops with the head coach. Now is the time to stack the deck with offensive players to be sure that the Falcons can hang with any team out there in scoring. A decent defense will win the games you are supposed to win while the offense will put the Falcons in the playoffs by stealing a couple of games from teams looking past the Falcons to stiffer competition down the road. I don’t see the Falcons in the Super bowl but I do see them with a winning season and many happy fans that feel content that a Superbowl bid is a very real possibility in one to two years if the coaches bring in the defensive players they need starting next year while exploiting the young bucks on offense starting this year. Look at the Cardinals going through the pre-season with almost no injuries while plugging in offensive and defensive players to examine the roster for players to cut. Don’t be surprised to see the Cards in another bid for the big dance even though the “experts” have all but written them off as second fiddle to the Niners. I believe in the Cards to be exciting and winning the NFC West and the Falcons to compete as a Wild card in the NFC. The Niners have a good team but the wrong coach for a superbowl bid. Singletary commands respect as a player not as a coach. I am afraid he will turn into Denny Green by the end of this season. I am looking forward to the 19th of September meeting of Arizona and the ATL. The winner will have a leg up on the rest of the NFC. This should be an exciting game for both teams to show off who they really are.

by AZ retiree on Aug 29, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

What else could we possibly want on offense?

We have a very good QB, a Pro Bowl WR, the best tight end in NFL history, a top fullback, a Pro Bowl running back, two fantastic backup RBs, and a now healthy Harry Douglas.

The offense has the tools to be great. It’s the defense that needs a boost of some kind.

by Duff_Man on Aug 29, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

This staff is like the Obama staff

They had to come in a fix the mess that was left by the last staff (McKay, and Mora/Puktrino) and lay the ground work to make sure that we continue to be good and one of the best for years to come. The coach can only do so much. If the players don’t want it bad enough (ie Jenkins dropping passes in the endzone) then you can’t put that on the coach. This Falcons team on both sides of the ball has more talent than the team that played AZ 2 years ago and matched up with them pretty good. If Smith turns into the Denny Green of 1998 (Vikings head coach that went 15-1) that would be fine with me.

Aside: Green built that sorry AZ team from scratch and got fired due to having a young team. All of the talent on that team was due to “mature” the year he was fired. All the talent that’s on the AZ team now was young then (ie. Dockett, Fitz, Lietnart) So hopefully management that’s in Atlanta won’t get rid of Smith just before he does what he was brought here to do like Green and Dungy. Green also had one of the best teams in history in Minnesota but got beat by us in the NFC championship.

by Fear Me on Aug 29, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think Denny Green was a scapegoat

He apparently knew how to build a team. D Green was probably an NFL version of Mike Woodson. Can draft and build well, but maybe doesn’t know how to utilize talent when things don’t quite workout as planned (adjustments) at least at times.
He should have been retained at least as a scout of some sort.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except that Mike Woodson couldn't draft for crap.

Right, Chris Paul?

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, to either side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham

by Zippo729 on Aug 29, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that too.

Woodson or Sund missed some obvious Gems, but for the ones we were left with, he made them work well enough to improve from 13 wins to 53 wins in five seasons, with virtually the same core staff. Maybe Woodson likes work in progresses.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obama

I don’t we should talk about politics here on this blog…I know you are from Arizona where his opponent lives…but shouldn’t we be more careful?

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are all megalomaniacs anyway.

They promise crap they can’t fulfill and we eat it up like candy. That’s why I like the football.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 2:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Regardless, I thought we should be more careful.
It’s a sensitive topic potentially.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just a friendly reminder

That I don’t want anyone getting into a political shouting match on this blog.

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by Dave Choate on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problems

Nobody’s crossing any lines. I just like to make sure I’m out ahead.

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by Dave Choate on Aug 30, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be interesting

Our nations flag would be silver and black.
This country was RAIDED from the native americans

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cut em all

HD, Gonzo, and Turner will carry our offense. And our defense…well, they’re likely to leave corpses and fire in their wake on the way to the fourth quarter.

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by Adam Schultz on Aug 29, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

yup

roddy and matt ryan are liabilities at this point. if matt actually doesnt sail the ball over roddy’s head, he would just drop it anyways. just get JPW to hand it off to turner or make quick passes to HD and Gonzo

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by dirtybirds233 on Aug 29, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boo

that wont get us out the first rd

by pierre02 on Aug 29, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be surprised if they cut Klecko

he has the ability to play FB and DT, and that saves some important space on the roster. Of course, if he’s no good at either then it makes no difference….

by orion12 on Aug 29, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

third that

but I don’t see how he could fit into the foster.
We already have Mughelli, and maybe keep Antone Smith/Snelling, and we have a plethora of DT’s. We already let go of Quinn who is another multi positional player.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 29, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree

wasn’t the guys versatility one of the reasons he was signed in the first place? Unless he was really bad in being a FB I’d keep him as a backup to Ovie/Snelling

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by Gemini-RU on Aug 29, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you even watched a single pre-season game or practice? Valdez in the first line of cuts? Everything coming out of camp says he has had as good of a camp as any offensive lineman and he has been murdering opposing players in games. Maybe you should choose one of the offensive lineman who has not seen the field in a few weeks.

by NYCFalcon99 on Aug 29, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Easy

there’s no need to be aggressive. Try pointing something out in a helpful, constructive way.

by orion12 on Aug 29, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that he might be bad, it's that the people ahead of him are that much better.

I apologize in advance for this, as I can’t remember the source, but someone pretty well known was saying that the Falcons have gone from reaching for help to cutting players that will play on other teams. We have a pool of talent that we’re not used to having and our numbers casualties are becoming better and better athletes each year. Unfortunately, we can’t keep them all.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, to either side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham

by Zippo729 on Aug 29, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

It’s good to have a multi positional player, but if you got (better) guys in front of him at all the positions, there is no point of keeping him. He will be dead weight. Unless we can trade him.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

When this offense settles in

I would not want to tangle with them. I do think we need that extra WR but we are pretty stocked up. As a matter of fact we will cut a couple of NFL ready RBs.I’m very pleased with where we are going. Screw fantasy football punks our D is gonna crush some skulls.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I would draft our D

Mark my words.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I dare you.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, to either side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham

by Zippo729 on Aug 29, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did pick up the falcons defense in one of my yahoo league's!!

I honestly think they just might have one of those seasons where a lot of things go their way and they keep opponents from scoring on them as much as they should.

I pray unto thee, oh Lords of football, please let the Atlanta Falcons WIN THE DAMN SUPERBOWL THIS YEAR!!!....Amen

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 29, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my two ESPN leagues

The Falcons D is a FA. But if they have a good Week 1 showing I will sure as hell get ’em.

by thisistherevolt on Aug 30, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It actually

might be a good Idea to get the Falcons D for week 1
The Steelers O-Line doesn’t look to good, and with Biermann going off in preseason, we have to be licking our chops. If sacks scores points, we could be in for a lot against Leftwich
However if Dixon plays, it will likely be either INTs or Forced Fumbles because he scrambles a lot and scrambling QBs seem to run through our defense like swiss cheese, so hopefully we can contain Dixon if he starts.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense In fantasy

is not a given unless you choose an evergreen defense that’s always good (Ravens, Cowboys, Eagles, Redskins, Steelers, maybe Bengals)
I would draft them next to last if not at all if none of the above available and chose the defense that won’t give it up to a strong opponent and hope you score points
A defense that forces turnovers scores more points than one that just shutsout opponents.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

any one seen the new NFL Sunday Ticket commercial?

it shows a saints fan talking about his new neigbor (a falcons fan) and how disgraceful it is that he waatches the falcons. then it shows the falcons fan fall to the ground in pain grabbing his arm then shiws the saints fan digging a needle into a falcons voodoo doll saying “a dirtybird cant fly with broken wings”

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by dirtybirds233 on Aug 29, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

no but I hate it already.

sounds like the saints fan is getting the best of the falcons fan

by Fear Me on Aug 29, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

its actually really creepy

im sure if your a saints fan its the funniest thing you’ve evver seen..but it honestly creeps me out. the saints fans comments said things like “they should make those merchandise items at the game” and “it would be great to have one of those..i’d use it before every game”
1 more reason to hate the saints

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by dirtybirds233 on Aug 29, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Real "saints" huh,

We got some REAL saints on our team.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Back in the 80's I wouldnt have cared cuz it was something Falcon!

But now that ive got that…whats it called again? pride in my team dont like it one bit!

by aces666high on Aug 29, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say keep Klecko since he can play about anywhere

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Aug 29, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

have you all seen the DOL article

about who’s a lock, on the bubble, and long shot to make the Falcons squad? Here is the link. Not sure if I agree with some of his picks.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/falcons-must-start-to-601618.html

by Fear Me on Aug 29, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I say cut

Zinger, Klecko,Bryant also. I like Palmer he has been getting Zingers reps. Klecko is arbitrary I would rather keep on of the young guys and Bryant well… We just need another kicker.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Maryland I

McClure>Klecko>Mughelli>Turner

I mean…..would ANYONE be able to stop that? That’s not even a “he ran like a freight train” reference. That IS the freight train.

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, to either side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham

by Zippo729 on Aug 29, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Falcons Freight Train

And don’t forget the Norwood-A.Smith Express

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm right about Palmer.

He was far more productive coming out of college. The fact that he was out of the ACC as aposed to Zingers SEC affiliation and the depth of TE in this years draft moved Palmer down the boards he seems like the better choice. Speaking of TEs Grontkowski from N.E is a bad s.o.b.

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by Ball Hawk on Aug 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

W/Tony hinting about retiring...

We have to start at least developing an heir apparent at TE. The Pats did well to grab the two they did in the draft and noone on our roster really sticks out as the man. Zinger really has done nothing in his limited time but i really dont know much about Palmer.

by aces666high on Aug 29, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree on keeping Palmer

Could always put Zinger on the practice squad.

Hate the fact that Finneran might be a lock at WR when he could be replaced by a younger WR that could grow into a #3 receiver.

I’d do something with Coy Wire and keep Bear.

Hope that Vance Walker makes the team but the DL is stacked. May be he’ll get slotted onto the practice squad.

by mwalex on Aug 29, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

TE / OL / FB

- TE – regarding Zinger vs. Palmer, I actually think Peele is more vulnerable….Zinger gives you your blocking TE, Palmer your receiving TE, both younger & cheaper than Peele.
- OL – agree that Valdez seems like a keeper, think he was the reason they sent Ojinnaka packing….the guy I think should be worried is Svitek, but with Baker’s injury history and the fact that Reynolds is the only other pure OT, he may be safe by default…however, wouldn’t be shocked if they pick up a veteran OT on the final cutdown to replace him either.
- FB – people talk about Klecko’s versatility, but I think the Falcons have been clear they consider him an FB only…..he’ll have to be awfully good on special teams to earn a roster spot, considering that the FB is not on the field that much and Snelling is a decent backup.

by jkaflagg on Aug 29, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Antonio Bryant cut walks away with $8 million guaranteed.

by JCush on Aug 29, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Now that's the way to get fired/pinkslipped

Get $8 Million without playing a down.

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by brotherbrown on Aug 30, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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