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Which NFL Position Groups Suffer the Most Injuries?

I've been thinking about this since the Falcons drafted Corey Peters. While most of us here think it was a fine pick, DT wasn't a *need* in any obvious sense. If we'd drafted a guard, for instance, we could have an instant starter instead of the likely backup (for the time being) we have in Peters. However, could it be that certain positions tend to experience such turnover that teams must stockpile extra talent?

I had a strong hunch that defensive tackles get hurt more often than other players. How to test such an assumption? To the mathmobile!

At which position groups should teams collect the most injury insurance? Let's break down end-of-season injured reserve data:

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The chart accounts for how many players of each position are usually on the field at the same time. This means that while about 10 NFL teams can expect to have a QB on injured reserve by the end of each year, about 24 can expect to have either a FS or SS on IR. 24 IR safeties, divided by 2 safety positions, equals 12 average IR players per safety position. (I'll explain more.)

A verdict: As we saw last year when Jason Snelling was our last man running for half a month, RBs get hurt a lot. It's no wonder their careers tend to be the shortest of any position group, while OL stick around forever. The difference between DTs and non-RB positions seems pretty substantial. Of course quarterbacks get hurt the least -- every NFL offense, except San Francisco's, is designed to protect the QB. Safeties are also pretty safe (LOL), perhaps because they're the least likely defender to face contact during the average play.

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This also means that, in the average year, most NFL teams can expect to lose one of their DTs (or, even more critically, their NT) for the season. Thus, losing Peria Jerry for '09 was no surprise at all.

Here's how I came up with this chart (you can skip all the rest if you want):

Finding the numbers: I'm pretty confident in the best IR data available for 2009 and 2008, while 2007's came from an old post in a gambling forum I've lost the link to and can't find again. That last one might sound shady -- however, gamble bros care about accurate and up-to-date injury reports more than anybody. Plus it's not like the '07 numbers ended up way off from the other two. All three years were pretty consistent, with the only really alarming outlier being the massacre of '09 linebackers (a dozen more IR LBs in '09 than in '07 and '08 combined).

And fiddling with them: I added the number of IR players for each position group from '07, '08, and '09. If a player was listed as something vague like DB or DL, I gave both sub-groups (CB and S, and DT and DE respectively) half credit for that player. I divided the total for each position group by 3 (for 3 years of data), providing an average for each position group. You're with me so far.

I then divided that average by the number of players from each position group that are usually on the field at once. Let me explain that. There are always 2 OTs on the field, while there's always only 1 QB, smartass wildcat objections notwishstanding. So I divided the total number of OTs by 2 and let QBs ride. I also left C at 1 and divided G by 2, DE by 2, and S by 2, as that's how many players from each of these position groups are almost always on the field.

Things got trickier for offensive ball-handlers. Offensive coordinators have 5 spots to customize for each play, trotting out some combination of RBs, WRs, and TEs. If we had a set of really great data on how many of each type of ball-handler the average NFL team uses per play, that would be great. But we don't, do we? (Do we?) I figured it would be best to guesstimate 1.33 RB, 2.33 WR, and 1.33 TE appear in the average formation. This takes into account everything from 2-back/2-TE sets to 5-WR sets. It might be skewed a little towards my pass-happy concept of the modern NFL, as a surprising number of teams may typically keep 2 RBs on the field most of the game. However, the divider for RBs must be smaller than 2, as no NFL teams run Paul Johnson's offense and plenty use 1 or 0 RBs at times. (Plus, even if we divide RBs by a full 2, It's still the most injured position group by far.) My formula is not perfect at all, and if you have a suggestion for how these 5 spots could better be allotted, let's hear it.

On defense, I had to account for the 3-4 and nickel packages. I actually divided LBs by only 3, since most teams do use the 4-3 -- and ~20 teams running 2-LB nickel sets on 3rd down likely more or less makes up for ~10 teams running 4-LB base sets on 1st and 2nd.

Next I divided DTs by 1.5 and CBs by 2.5.

Regarding 1.5 for DTs: first, many teams use the 3-4. Second, some 4-3 teams replace a DT with a coverage LB (3-3-5) or an extra pass-rushing DE when in nickel (as we used to do with DE Jamaal Anderson ... he's now a true tweener, so present-day Jamaal isn't the perfect example). I went back and forth on using 1.5 for DT, since using anything too small makes it look like I rigged the data to support what I'd wanted to support in the first place (i.e., drafting Corey Peters was smart because DTs get hurt more than anybody else), but the number has to be smaller than 2 to account for the 3-4. And 2 CBs is simply not enough, meaning the extra .5 has to come from somewhere. Can't take it from DE or S, as all common sets use 2 of each of these, and there are almost always more than 2 LB on the field. Let me know if you think 1.5 is too small of a number for DTs, but increasing it to 1.75 doesn't change its standing as the second-most IR-prone position group.

Regarding 2.5 for CBs: teams can have as many as 5 CBs on the field at once, and nickel sets have been base defenses in many games. If the extra .5 is off, it's quite possibly too small.

The total number of players expected to usually be on-field for each position group:

  • QB: 1
  • HB: 1.333
  • WR: 2.333
  • TE: 1.333
  • T: 2
  • G: 2
  • C: 1
  • DE: 2
  • DT: 1.5
  • LB: 3
  • CB: 2.5
  • S: 2

Caveats: Obviously this is only injured-reserve data. If we could include all the hundreds of Probables, Doubtfuls, Questionables, and Outs that surface during a season, who knows if things would change? Maybe certain positions are more likely to suffer small injuries and less likely to reach the IR.

My jimmy-rigged "players per position group on the field" formula can't account for special teams. Since more LBs play special teams than QBs do (you knew this, right?), this certainly nudges LBs a little bit higher on the chart. We could BS some percentages to throw in for special teams-intensive position groups. Then again, half the point of drafting a sixth-round LB is having another guy to throw at kick returners, so maybe special teams should just be thought of as a hazard that comes with not playing quarterback. Suggestions?

I still have all the data, so we'll break this out again next year with another season of data to add and hopefully a formula tweaked by your comments. Holler.

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I can only assume

kickers do not ever get injured unless they are wearing a Falcons uniform so they were not included in this lineup.

And what category would a DEKicker fall into?

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by MentallyMIA on Jul 7, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Thats crazy

that almost every team can prpare to lose a running back to injury

by mc29012 on Jul 7, 2010 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Good Data

Nice to wake up to a strong cup of Falcohol this morning. Sometimes the blathering on blog sites can get to be annoying but I’d like to say I appreciate some good, well-researched conversational data! Thanks Jason Kirk! You should be a Captain.

by DocBurnett on Jul 7, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Awesome stuff J.Kirk The Falcoholic never fails!

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by Dirtybyrdatl4life on Jul 7, 2010 12:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

D@*!& Kirk

I’m a falcon fan, not a mathematician!

Seriously good job, well presented.

by CollegePark4Life on Jul 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

And I agree. I hate math.

by XBEARDX on Jul 8, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Williams RB -- Virginia Tech

Stud running Back!! We will need him next year

by VaTechDirtybird on Jul 7, 2010 1:25 PM EDT reply actions  

You and mardygilyard4senate2012 should hang out.

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by Jason Kirk on Jul 7, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Great job

And really good info. Backed up by Football Outsiders (I don’t have ESPN Insider, but they also state that RB is most injured by far). They also have injury info for Questionable/Probable/etc for the last few years, but I can’t find it right now.

As far as players per position, it looks like you did a good job to me. I looked at PFF’s snap counts for the Falcons last season, and got RB 1.47, WR 2.10, and TE 1.42 – very close to what you came up with, and could go up/down depending on a team’s offensive philosophy and/or specific injuries (I think our WR’s would be higher if that didn’t mean putting Marty Booker on the field). Defense I’m just going to assume is at least in the ballpark. The Falcons numbers for last year look goofy (I assumed Coleman’s 1051 was every defensive snap, which may be incorrect):
DT 1.74
DE 2.27 (I put 100% of JA98’s 565 snaps here)
LB 2.69
CB 2.39
S 1.99

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by orang3b on Jul 7, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec

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by Jason Kirk on Jul 7, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess this is how you do an injury post

Just don’t talk about our team.
But good job in accounting for various defenses and offensive sets. A lot more teams going back to the 3-4. Times are changing. What’s old is new again…even the wildcat..single wing.
If only it was true for our culture of lifestyle, and tv shows.

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by brotherbrown on Jul 7, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrific post, Jason

Your smooth statistical blends are the yin to my rambling, unfocused yang.

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by Dave Choate on Jul 7, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Recsies

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by Jason Kirk on Jul 7, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

And I’d add one reason D-Linemen are hurt more than O-Lineman: Zone Blocking/ cut blocks.

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by orang3b on Jul 8, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts...

DL are hurt more than OL because if you watch someone like JA55, he’s constantly contorting his body and muscles to get an edge. OL don’t really do that, they chop their feet and use their hands/arms to keep the ever-flexible DEs from getting in front of them. And if an OL gets beaten, he falls down, whereas DEs are constantly pushing every muscle known to them in one direction to try and get past the big ol’ OL.

DBs get hurt more than WRs because for one, WRs are almost always bigger than DBs. The momentum factors in collisions and whatnot make that an issue. DBs also play a completely different style than WRs. WRs know where they are going, the DBs do not know where they are going. Man coverage with a DB that gets turned around can be a cause for an awkward turn at full speed and tear a ligament in a heartbeat. Plus, WRs don’t have to tackle Burner Turner sweeping around the end.

Think about DJ Shockley’s knee injury. His injury wasn’t even that bad of a cutback, but he crunched all his weight on his one leg and made an awkward cut, and boom, the knee’s dead. A DB making an awkward turn because he got burned could be all that it takes.

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by Zippo729 on Jul 8, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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