Talking About The Falcons 2011 NFL Draft...Seriously
Or is it?
The NFL Draft has become a juggernaut in its own right. We're barely two months removed from the 2010 NFL Draft and there's already discussion building about the 2011 NFL Draft. This is equal parts hilarious, frightening and interesting, in my opinion.
One such site is NFL Mocks, which baited me with an e-mail about their NFC South capsule for the upcoming draft. Like a big ol' striper, I bit the delicious worm of discussion and now I've got the hook of conjecture through my lip, whereupon I'll be pulled onto the boat of hopeless wrongness and that's where the analogy really breaks down.
Fortunately, being wrong all the time is what we specialize in here at The Falcoholic. Join me after the jump.
So our friends over at NFL Mocks toss us a couple of compliments before diving into their three top projected needs for the Falcons. I'm here to tell you that one of them is way off, one is definitely feasible and one is very intriguing.
1. Cornerback
No offense to the writer of the post, but this is a common mistake for those not well-versed in the Falcons. Cornerback was a huge need just a couple of seasons ago, but that need has gradually diminished. I'm not saying Brent Grimes, Chris Owens or Dominique Franks are top-flight cornerbacks opposite Dunta Robinson, but they're all talented young players who have a shot at becoming quality starters in the NFL. Whoever doesn't provides excellent organizational depth, and we've also got Chevis Jackson, who is a talented backup in his own right.
What we see on the field may eventually prove me wrong, but I'm comfortable with our depth at corner. I wouldn't say no to one more in 2011 if the Falcons believe it's necessary. I just don't think it's a top need, and certainly not the top need.
2. Defensive line
This is the half-right one. For all their targeting of defensive linemen in recent years, I'm still not willing to close the book on the defensive line. They're clearly much better than many give them credit for, and behind John Abraham and Kroy Biermann we have some depth. Even defensive tackle is deeper now, with Peria Jerry hopefully getting healthy and Corey Peters looking like a potential future starter.
But I'm a firm believer you can never have too much depth along the line, and it's not like we can really expect Abraham to be around forever...which I believe was partially the topic of yesterday's discussion. Sidbury could very well pan out and reward the Falcons with greatness, but he's still a project and needs to be brought along with that in mind. There's nothing to prevent the Falcons from adding more depth at tackle and even a potential future starter at defensive end. I can't imagine Chauncey Davis and Jamaal Anderson are going to stick around forever.
The better target in some ways might be linebacker, where the team really doesn't have any depth that doesn't come with age-related or pure talent questions attached to them. Sorry, Coy Wire and Spencer Adkins. It doesn't mean I don't love you.
3. Utility
The author of the NFL Mocks article and I are talking about slightly different things when we speak of utility. I'll start with his.
He's essentially suggesting the Falcons add a weapon-type back/receiver, someone like Reggie Bush, Percy Harvin, Dexter McCluster, etc. That's an emerging role in today's NFL, a guy who does a little bit of everything and has to be accounted for whenever he's on the field. The team does have both Jerious Norwood and Harry Douglas, but the ship has sailed on Norwood and Douglas isn't someone I'd want to expose to too many end-arounds, lest he get pounded into the turf.
Someone with a lot more knowledge of next year's draft can maybe give me an idea of what kind of player might be out there, but it's safe to say I don't place this as a huge priority at the moment.
Then again, the Falcons are finally nearing the point where they have the luxury of taking the best player available. We saw a little bit of it this off-season, when the team added Franks to a pretty deep cornerback depth chart. If the best player on the board happens to be a Harvin type or just a top-flight wide receiver, these Falcons might be well-positioned to take one. When you really think hard about the holes on this roster—at least in terms of starters—it's hard to come up with one more glaring that wide receiver anyways. The team could always use more depth, but there's reason to believe they may try to hit a home run on offense in 2010. The NFL Mocks guy is right. Matt Ryan could always use more weapons.
Of course, everything we both wrote is probably wrong, so feel freeing to do some mocking of your own.
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TE
Tony G won’t be around forever. Unless one of our other tight ends step up (which is hard to do without an injury to Tony G), we’ll be looking at tight ends come next off season.
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by phoenix falcoholic on Jul 6, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd for a good point
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but its rare to find a 1st round talent at TE… I think DE or CB with next years first round pick might be the way to go
by VaTechDirtybird on Jul 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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by VaTechDirtybird on Jul 6, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
DE> RB
we have some depth at running back now….
Turner
Snelling
Noorwood
unfortunately we have no solid depth at DE. I’m surprised we havnt made free agent talks to DE’s
by VaTechDirtybird on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Coming from another Hokie...
I talked to Tyrod, and evidently everyone is there working together this summer except for Ryan Williams. He also said Darren Evans looks just as nasty as he did before he got hurt. Cant wait for the season.
Umm, we got needs.
DE first.
Utility, WR, TE are all good seconds.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Jul 6, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
2011 wow...
umm perhaps a kicker? I don’t know it’s so far away…
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2011 needs
1. OLB opposite Spoon
2. DE
3. TE
4. LT – to back up or replace oft injured starter
5 K
Now that you mention it
LT might not be a bad pick. I would love a stud LT. I don’t think Baker is getting it done.
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by phoenix falcoholic on Jul 6, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think we need an OLB.
Nicholas did fine last year and I think he’s still got plenty of improving to do.
I think a stud TE should be priority #1. We want Ryan to continue to thrive and grow in this offensive system and let’s face it, our own Tony G. was a big part of the success he had last year. A young, pass-oriented TE that can step in during passing situations (as well as maybe block the lesser of the two ends) would be key to continue to have the optimal growth of Ryan in the offense.
Even with our oft-injured starter LT, (if I remember this right) Ryan wasn’t sacked very much last year, so the OL may not be the problem. Remember, Turner was fat and injured last year, and our >#3< RB had respectable numbers, so I don’t think the OL is in dire need of an upgrade.
You can never have enough DEs, but again, I don’t think they’re top priority. Or rather…we need to wait and see how BeerMan and El Sid develop this year before we declare how big of a priority DE is. Same goes for K. We have Hoshka (lazy man’s version) and Bryant, who are plenty capable of getting it done.
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Nichols did do OK...
But we are gaining a lot of depth at a lot of positions and I think Nicholls would be a great back up, but we can get a better starter… This is a great position to be in!
I would switch things up a bit...
1) TE
2) DE
3) CB
3) OT
5) SPEED
by VaTechDirtybird on Jul 6, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
TE is a good call...
But I wanted to give the 2 young guys we picked up a year to see what they have. We may have a diamond in the rough already….
WR/DE (early rounds)
TE/LB/OT/RB/DB (mid to late round picks)
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NO more D-Line!!
and you guys call yourself falcons fans
DE:we have the beer man sid abe davis-ja98
DT:jerry(hes not a bust yet!)-Cory peters-babs -trey lewis-johnson-ja98
thaT IS TOO MUCH DEPTH OUR D-LINE IS OK
AND AT LINE BACKER spencer adkins i think has the ability to play all three linebackers as a back up coy wires still there and mike petersons good for the year ok
I like your confidence
I think JA98 will be gone after this season, and I think Abe’s got maybe two more seasons in him for the Falcons. I just don’t think it hurts to add depth.
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I'll take a slightly below average defensive tackle over an average kick returner (Weems) any day of the week.
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I agree with the conclusion, but...
I would say JA98 is slightly better than average for NFC South DTs. Think how many rookies and journeymen are starting for the Panthers, Saints, and Bucs. He may be overpaid, but he serves a positional need and contributed to a stout run defense.
by TheAreopagite on Jul 6, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, I ain't mad at that. I wasn't referring to Jamaal specifically anyway.
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Members of our defensive line that can reasonably be considered sure-thing starters for the next 3-5 seasons:
1. Jonathan Babineaux
2. Kroy Biermann
TOO MUCH DEPTH
No such thing.
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Too much depth?
So if I carried……15 defensive ends for depth……
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starters and depth are to different things
all im saying is dont worry so much after one injury season i dont think we should have more than 6 dt when theres only 1-2 on the field at a time same goes for ends also if you look towards the future weems can be just as good if not better than harry douglas he does have potential and ryan wolfe is in the same boat and some of our other postions like how we may have a te on the roster good enouh you say but o no we cant keep him because we need to add a 8th string DE injury happens we cant predict when though if jerry had a good season we wouldnt even be having this conversation and youd be in my shoes trying to cut some of the guys we have dont get me wrong i like the ones we have but no more
it's early, but...
i almost feel like it’s gotta be DE. even if Sidbury and Biermann come along, you know Abraham isn’t gonna be around forever, so you’ve gotta start thinking about that. and since we didn’t do much to upgrade the D-line in the draft this year, i’m sure it will be next up on the list.
i’m a big believer in building a team around the lines, so i’d have no problem continuing to throw picks at the D-line and O-line.
TE is obviously going to be an area that needs to be addressed next year or the year after too.
Nah we dont need to DRAFT a DE
we can get a stud one thru free agency or a trade, like we did with Abe! When he peters out go sign another young stud DE or trade for one. Then we can just worry about getting the falcons next BIGTIME PLAYMAKER whether thats at WR or RB, doesn’t matter. That is what this falcon team is missing, an explosive playmaker that teams have to account for and defend on every play!!
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I will be interested to see LT shake out
If Baker has a good year, no problems. But another injury-riddled year with the franchise quarterback suffering injuries as a result of poor blocking….well I think the Comrade looks elsewhere. Now that I think about, this is not a very strong claim, that could be said about any position…
I would say that we need to target
DE- Look at the giants the year they beat the patriots, that fierce rotation of osi, strahan and tuck. How amazing would it be to have a rotational guy to take pressure off of Bierman and Sidbury? Face it guys, Abe is only going to be around one or two more seasons, it happens to every veteran… Davis is ok and JA98 is more suited for DT. I am not saying we need to spend a first rounder on this, but we can for sure use a 2nd or 3rd.
TE- Gonzo is like Abe, he’ll be around for a few more years, but we want sustained success, not a 3 year window and then rebuilding.
WR- You saw what happened when HD went down… We signed Marty Booker… Finneran I think will be lucky if he makes the team this year, which is sad to see :( But if something happens to HD again or Roddy I want more assurance than Jenkins and Weems starting. I think Meier could be solid, but this is a position that you really need to see how this year plays out before you can judge.
LB- for depth. Once Peterson is gone we have Spoon, Lofton and Nicholas. Could be a very great bunch of young backers, but I would like to see some depth behind them. and also maybe use some more 4 backer formations. I think a back up like Spoon, one that can cover TE’s and such.
LT- I do like the argument for a LT. I think it’d be wise to pick one up.
Already looking forward to the draft, especially with the format from this past season with 3 days.
gotta c how the season goes but id say
TE we need a gud 1, HB, S if Moores a bust, WR, OLB, DL, DE. Not necessarily in that order.
by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Jul 6, 2010 6:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Question Marks
This year is a critical year for figuring out what you have on D almost across the board and a few on the O side. There are a lot of draft picks that thus far have not played much or showed much when they did play,
1) Can Robinson perform to his contract level, which is one of the premiere corners in the league? Often times in Houston, he did not.
2) Can someone play well consistently opposite Robinson at the other CB spot?
3) Can Moore play safety in the NFL? Can he stay healthy?
4) Will Perry ever play? Will he be any good if he does? Can he stay healthy if he does?
5) Will Spoon be an impact player?
6) Can Nichols man the other OLB spot consistently?
7) Will anyone emerge as a pass rusher opposite Abraham?
8) Will Abraham rebound?
9) Can Peters at least work himself into the rotation or was he a multi-round reach that many think he is?
So, what can we count on for the D? Lofton for sure, our DT rotation should be at least medium with all the bodies we can throw at it, Abraham if he gets a little help from somebody else on the Dline, DeCoud and hopefully he continues to improve
So, if you are looking at draft picks for 2011 on the D side, DE for sure, OLB for sure, DT, CB and safety needs are more dependent on how the multitude of players and draft choices at those positions play in 2011. We may be fairly well off at those spots or in real need of help.
Offense
1) Can Baker stay healthy?
2) Can Douglass come back from his knee injury?
3) Will Jenkins continue to regress?
4) Can Norwood stay healthy and contribute? Can we put him in spots to succeed?
5) Can Turner rebound to 2008 form?
Obviously the O is in much better shape than the D, with the personnel being on the roster and the question is health and rebounding to previous performance levels.
2011 draft – TE for sure and OL depth for sure. If something happens to Baker or he continues to exhibit health issues, a LT maybe as high as 1.
by Whopper Dawg on Jul 6, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
OL
I’m a firm believer that every team should draft an OL every year, even if it’s 3rd or later round.
TE - nope
We have two good rookies and one of them will probably make the team. If the rookies bust I’d rather ATL pick up a FA TE.
I agree with the earlier comment about looking at picking up another LB or hybrid LB/DE but that depends on if the kid from Texas Tech makes the team this year.
If Meier/Wolf/Harvey make the team ATL might want to consider a burner WR. I think Weems might not be on the team, or at least have minimal receiver duty.
RB should be high on the list. Norwood’s clock is ticking and Turner needs a future replacement.
OL is always critical, have to protect Ryan and keep the running game going.
Priority
I do feel we need to ensure that Ryan has all the help he needs, and keeps the help he needs. Last season, our ground game was horrid in comparison to the years previous. Turner had a great initial season with us, but his production last year was lack luster in my opinion. Norwood is a great back, but very injury prone. In my opinion, the jury is still out on Snelling. I think we need a great RB from the draft next season, even more so if Turner repeats his performance from last year. I do not feel that TE is a major need right now, Tony G still has a couple of great years left in my opinion. We need more defensive help than anywhere else. LB, DL, and S. The biggest priority, in my opinion, is RB. Michael Turner has not shown me he is a great consistent back, Jerious Norwood gets hurt if someone sneezes on him wrong, and Jason Snelling hasn’t had a chance to show he can be consistent either. I would love it if Mark Ingram, from Alabama, goes pro next year and ends up in Atlanta. After getting that great RB, we need more LBs primarily followed by DLs. S is not a major concern, but the combination of age and talent at the S position does warrant some attention.

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