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The Tuesday Off Topic: Teams We Root Against

Welcome to the latest and greatest more than adequate feature here at The Falcoholic!

Until the season officially kicks off, Adam, Jason and I will shock and entertain you each Tuesday with something that is only tangentially related to the Falcons and football. This week's post, about teams we love to hate outside of the NFC South, is probably the closest you're going to get to football. Hell, if you've got a suggestion for a Tuesday off topic you'd like to propose, you know how  to reach us.

If you'll join us after the jump, Jason Kirk and I will destroy two poor teams who have done nothing but idly exist up until now. This'll show 'em!

Star-divide

Jason Kirk rages:

First, my favorite thing about the Redskins: all their personnel decisions are made via Madden message board surveys. Q: Should we trade a shutdown cornerback for a running back who succeeded in Denver, despite the clear pattern of every running back succeeding in Denver? A: RUNNING BACKS SCORE TOUCHDOWNS! Q: Should we trade our perfectly decent young quarterback for Donovan McNabb's last two years, even though we have other pressing needs? A: JASON CAMPBELL SUCKS! Q: Should we spend every offseason purchasing the All-Pro team from four years prior? A: THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS!

It's not even a punchline. It's a rule of thumb. The Raiders sign track stars, the Bengals sign convicts, and the Redskins devote their summers to building city-sized Rube Goldberg apparati that launch flaming pallets of cash into outer space where they can be fired upon by iced-out satellites that do nothing but shoot gold bricks in every direction all day long a la the spray guns from Contra.

Endless entertainment. However, Daniel Snyder's hard-on for flinging money like it's chimpanzee feces also ties into one of the three worst things about the team.

1. They're the perfect team for Washington, DC.

A team's location matters. I sort of root for the Chiefs because I like their city. Half my family hails from KC. I'm sure you feel the same way about certain teams -- despite never calling the city home, you like the city and thus the team by extension.

We like it when teams take on the identities of their cities. The Steelers always seem to be the best example -- they're tough, principled, and straightforward. Well, if you had to pick a team to represent the home of the United States federal government, which has overspent so much money that all the dollars in the world couldn't pay off its debt, wouldn't you pick the Slurs?

This is no dis to the fine citizens of the DMV or the team's world-class fans, who dominate the league's attendance record books. And I'm not trying to drag us into a politics debate here -- just being honest. I hate the Washington Redskins, and the fact that their city houses the biggest, most wasteful, and most powerful bureaucracy of all time is a big reason why. Whether you get all worked up about taxes or wars (and pretty much everybody gets worked up about at least one of the two), you can find solace in watching the Redskins lose.

2. They should've changed their nickname 50 years ago.


Redskin is an epithet in descriptor's clothing. Pretending it's a tribute to Native American nobility is a joke -- you're honoring them for having reddish skin? Oh, ok. Would we also be fine with teams called the Yellowskins or Blackskins? As Chris Rock said, "Washington Redskins? That's like having a team called the New York N*******."

Let's remember team founder/owner George Preston Marshall was perhaps the most powerful white supremacist in all of sports, refusing to integrate his roster until he was forced to, long after all other teams had done so. Factoring in Marshall's decades of vigilant racism, does it feel a little naive to call the Redskins nickname a show of respect for a minority ethnic group?

This isn't that '90s argument about getting rid of all Native American nicknames, either.

3. They're too popular in Atlanta.

A Washington fan reading this would likely suggest reason #3 is my real beef with the Redskins -- I'm just jealous of the team's disproportionate southern presence. While that would be enough to dislike the Slurs, it really is only one movement in my suite of hate.

Until the Falcons came along, football in Atlanta meant Georgia Tech, the Washington Redskins, and whoever was on TV. As the Slurs were the closest thing to a southern pro team (What about Miami? Miami is its own market. Atlanta is as close to Ohio as Miami is to Georgia) and thus had most Sundays around here all to themselves, they developed a sizable Georgia fanbase. Hopefully it will continue to fade out over time, but whenever the Slurs come to town there's always a much-larger-than-normal contingent of foreign fans.

I hate the Washington Redskins.

Dave Choate grouses:

Those of you who know my past and present home will be able to see where this is going long before I slather your screen with rich, buttery hatred. As a native Masshole who spent most of his life in Maine before moving to New Hampshire for college and work, I've seen a little bit of everything New England has to offer. One of the most powerful lessons I've learned—besides the fact that every place with the words "Chowder House" in its name serves delicious food—is how to hate the New England Patriots.

For every wonderful, dedicated Patriots fan, there's two enormous jackasses to argue loudly and less coherently. For every one Patriots fan who suffered quietly through decades of ineptitude and heartbreak, there's three mouth-breathing morons who jumped on the bandwagon less than a decade ago but love to belittle "lesser" teams. For everyone at Pats Pulpit, there's an all too-close approximation of this guy (NSFW).

I spent my formative days as a Falcons fan in a tiny podunk town in the middle of Maine. Back then, the Patriots and the Falcons both kind of sucked, so nobody really bothered me. It was actually kind of nice to be able to commiserate with fans who knew what it was like to root for a team that regularly disappointed you. My one advantage over them was that I didn't have to have my team's blinding failure seared into my retinas on a weekly basis...no, scratch that. The Patriots were so bad they put the rest of the AFC East on TV instead. Yikes.

And then it all went downhill, and rapidly. When the Patriots got Drew Bledsoe and slowly became a real team, culminating in a Super Bowl visit against the Green Bay Packers, guys who couldn't care less about the team suddenly started wearing Bledsoe jerseys. Suddenly, my Falcons fandom was hilarious. I was regularly goaded to give up my team, like Tito Twoteeth had the right to lecture me on good teams after his bottom-feeding grouper of an AFC "powerhouse" suddenly materialized in the playoffs like Back to the Future with a Boston accent.

But you can't hate a team just because of their fans, can you? Eventually, you get used to crap like that. And so life went on....until the Patriots won in 2001.

Remember, I'm not an Atlanta native. Maybe there's some direct approximation I'm missing out on here that you can educate me about. I will say this: I have never seen a team transform from NFL afterthought to America's darling in less time than the New England Patriots. Suddenly, I couldn't go anywhere without being confronted by the silent specter of Bill Belichick, Smilin' Tom Brady and their merry band of kickass players. It wasn't just that the fans were insufferable—I haven't run into so many pricks at once since my days as a drunken acupuncturist—but that the team morphed from a football team into something enormous. Boston and New England in general loves its sports legends, and they will never let you forget that team's inherent superiority.

It only got worse, of course. The Patriots were a perennial powerhouse until recently, and having a reasonable conversation with a Pats fan is still like scrubbing your eardrums with steel wool. If the Patriots are good, they're elated. If the Patriots suck, well, there's never been a worse team. It's bipolar fandom at its ugliest. And all the way through, I had to confront the very real fact that not only was I angry with a team that seemed to go to extreme lengths to make itself secretive and unlikeable, but that I was jealous of their success. Not a pleasant epiphany.

Now, of course, the Patriots are re-loading and the Falcons are a young team on the rise. Hell, the teams are even practicing together this summer. Looking back, the Patriots have a richly deserved run of success and transformed the landscape of the NFL. Someday, we'll all look back and remember them as an iconic team. One day, we may be able to draw parallels between the successes of our two franchises. For the first time in my memory, I can actually get a Pats fan to grudgingly admit the Falcons are a good team. Maybe the times are changing.

Ah, screw it. I still hate those bastards.

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I love to hate the Jets

especially since they love a pac-10 QB that’s destined to be a bust

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 25, 2010 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

This, this.

Who we bashing next. The Saints I hope.

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on May 29, 2010 12:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And then there's the Cowboys

What’s not to hate? Money, talent, and hype every year. Keith “stay classy” Brooking.

by TheAreopagite on May 25, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Did you see the game last year in which Brooking was acting like a little punk ass when the Falcons played the C-Boys? A total big time loser if you ask me, hey, remember 3rd and 16 in the playoff game against the Cards? Way to go loser, and that’s one of the reasons why you went to the dark side with Emperor Palaptine Jones…

by falconplanet on May 25, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the Cowboys and Patriots.

Fans here in Australia are just Cowboy and Patriot fans, or what are commonly known as, “Glory Supporters.”

I hate glory supporters.

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Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.

by Grayson on May 25, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

That's a way better name for what we call them in America

Which is douchebags.

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I use another D word to descibe them.

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I watch them through all the strife,
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by Grayson on May 25, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it's a cuss than don't say what it is

but if not I’ll guess, DORK?

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 26, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dag?

Gotta love Aussie soap-opera swearwords.

- “Skippy, a kid’s fallen in the dunny, mate! You’ve got to save him!”
- “Aw, rack off, you dag!”

by Ignoramus on May 26, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 26, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crikey!

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by Dave Choate on May 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair'd Incum mate?

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Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.

by Grayson on May 27, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice rant, Dave.

You forgot that the Pat’s “dynasty” is tainted by Belicheat and spygate. Make sure you bring that up next time a Pat’s fan is gloating. The reaction is priceless.

In Breesus' name we play

by Breesus Christ Superstar on May 28, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well-groused, Dave.

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by Jason Kirk on May 25, 2010 8:58 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Well ranted, Jason!

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a displaced fan

As a falcoholic who grew up in the DC area and now lives right between Giants and Pats country, I can’t agree more with the picks. Redskins fans always claim that they’re going to make a deep run into the playoffs, and if things are going even meciocrely they worship whoever the qb is and if they’re bad it’s like a lynching mob.

The pats on the other hand… Well if the patriots demise after losing one of the best superbowls of all time shows anything, the only team I like to see lose more os New Orleans.

by falconnuke on May 25, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

fans

The teams just wanna win.Its the fans that cause me to hate.Take NO for example.We have a rivalry and its good but the saints are a south team and we should be for them when we arn’t playin but noooooo.The saints fans are some of the most obnox people I have ever heard and ignorant! what can I say.I despise em.But I do like New Orleans.The city.

by JT131 on May 25, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree. NO is a cool city, but the team can blow farts up a donkey’s butt for all I care, especially Brees and Payton.

by falconplanet on May 25, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The saints (sic) fans are some of the most obnox (sic) and ignorant!"

Interesting.

Before calling us obnoxious, let’s try learning to actually SPELL the word, hmmkay?

…speaking of “ignorant”.

Oh, and while you’re discovering the joys of spellcheck, try learning to punctuate and capitalize correctly, makes things much easier to read and comprehend.

;-)

Look man, I don’t hate the Falcons or their fans as much as I have a healthy respect for them, and love to harass them at ever opportunity (see above). But I do not go ’round calling them names without cause.

By the way, I noticed at the last NO/ATL game in the Georgia Dome, there were more SAINTS fans in the house…interesting, no? ;-)

(Oh, and for the record, over at CSC, we think DTF/Dave Choate is a pretty cool guy, and are always glad to welcome him to our blog…even if he does root for the Foul-clowns! ;-) )

Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!

by GSO Saints Fan on May 28, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You improperly capitalized "SPELL."

“Spellcheck” should be two words.

Closing quotes go after end marks.

You need a semicolon after “capitalize correctly.”

“Makes things much easier to read and comprehend” lacks a subject.

There should be “so much as I have” instead of “as much as I have.”

No need for a comma after “for them.”

You misspelled “every.”

You improperly capitalized “SAINTS.”

No need for a comma after “for the record.”

You misspelled “Falcons.”

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by Jason Kirk on May 28, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You need a semicolon after "capitalize correctly."

He said colon. He he, he he.

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by DrWhoDat on May 28, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Instant classic

can’t wait for the next installment, but I will likely skip the Cowboys version when it comes along :-)

Teams I root against: All teams without cheerleaders! Bears, Packers, Lions, Steelers, Browns and Giants all have no official cheerleaders

  • Packers: “The Packers haven’t had official cheerleaders since 1988, however cheerleaders from the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay and St. Norbert College appear at home games throughout the season. The Packers discontinued their squad of official cheerleaders in large part due to fan indifference.” Fan indifference? Musta been some nasty ones.
  • The Steelers had cheerleaders called the Steeleretts from 1961-1970. Experiment quickly abandoned because as some people familiar with that region have noted: " There aren’t enough hot women in western Pa for the Steelers to have cheerleaders."
  • The Chicago Honey Bears (It’s true, I kid you not, I swear!) lasted from 1977 -1985. And that whiny Jay Cutler is playing there.
  • If ever there was a team in need of some kind of spark and enthusiasm it would be the Lions, but William Clay Ford always wanted a ‘wholesome’ atmosphere. They did bring in high school cheerleaders and baton-twirlers and throwers to the games at some point, but that nonsense was quickly abandoned again.
  • The Browns are still thinking about whether or not to have a logo. After that, they’ll decide on cheerleaders. Until then, the team that wears diarrhea-inspired uniforms will, aptly enough, continue playing like crap.
  • And the Giants? They don’t have cheerleaders because nobody wants to cheer for the Giants.

by One.Cool.Customer on May 25, 2010 10:12 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Great comment

I gotta say, though, I really like the Packers. Probably has something to do with my bizarre family, where my brother is a Packers fan.

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, The Six

I was really surprised that there actually are six teams that don’t indulge in every objectifying practice the NFL has to offer. Kudos to them. (Doesn’t mean that they do it for the right reasons, probably not, or that I like the teams, I mostly don’t, but I do like not having cheerleaders.)

by wiesengrund on May 25, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I live in Wisconsin

Not as many people wear cheese heads as everybody from out of wisconsin thinks.

by Mattyice318 on May 25, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Culter was a cheerleader?

Might as well be the guy is downright awful.

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Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.

by Grayson on May 26, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it doesn't seem like Cheerleaders like the North

They only exist in Minnesota because there is a dome and the Vikings got soft losing the purple people eaters montage. Cincinnati and Baltimore are near rivers and south enough to have cheerleaders.
Maybe Pittsburgh should have a bunch of Brawny men to be their cheerleaders like in that classic movie “Seven Brides for Seven Brothers”.
I guess the Giants idea of cheerleaders is the Village People.

by brotherbrown on May 26, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I base my NFL hatred on the general doucebaggery of the home city residents

Philadelphia, Chicago, Dallas, and New York/Jersey can all go to hell.

by Leon07 on May 25, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Great post... but I bet we end up regretting it.

I foresee a good ol’ low-brow flame-war erupting as soon as Skins/Pats fans find out about this.

Also, Jason – small typo: after “The Steelers always seem to be the best example — they’re tough, principled, and straightforward”, you seem to have missed the word “rapists”.

by Ignoramus on May 25, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

If the Steelers are representative of Pittsburgh maybe instead of calling it “The Burgh” or Iron City we should start calling it Molesterville

by zooker on May 25, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

as a steelers and falcons fan...

…I am proud of my PA homies. The reponses I’ve heard from up there about how they feel about ben’s mess is “Ben Who?”. Seriously, I’ve heard a lot of lifelong steeler fans say they ain’t watching as long as he’s still the guy. Not that they actually WON’T watch, but the sentiment is refreshing.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on May 26, 2010 7:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I loathe San Fran

I love Joe Montana and Steve Young but the rest of that team can fall into the deepest darkest part of the crack below my back and plant a kiss right there! Hell, Washington, Detroit, the Giants and Tamoa Bay can join in the fun!

by FalconsFan721 on May 25, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

what about Jerry Rice?

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 26, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

This ^^

Rec’d for fanhood.

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by Zippo729 on May 25, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

You just have to read it

Using the voice of Mark Wahlberg whenever he plays a Bahstonian. Hey Ricky…hows ya mutha?

by TheAreopagite on May 26, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I may be a little late on this thread...

…but I could understand every word of that KSK article.

I guess I’ll go back to my Chowdah…

by Richard Hill on Jun 3, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally...

I have to say that I really, really hate the Cryboys, the Slurs, and the Pats. That’s outside of the NFC South or course.

If you ask me, those teams, mostly the Slurs, just think they can throw money at whomever and expect to win every year. I also agree that part of my hatred of these teams reflects to the fans, particularly the Cryboys and the Pats. They are all very obnoxious and as stated previously, remain stuck in the past accomplishments of their teams.

As for our division rivals, I think the Aints’ fans make them the worst for me. I generally hate most Louisiana sports’ fans. That goes for Aints and LSU fans too. They’re just generally rude and obnoxious as ever.

by XBEARDX on May 25, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

How about these teams...

Our friends the Saints, Bucs and Panthers? We love to Hate these goobheads because they are the division rivals Aints, Yucs, and the Panties! Can’t stand ‘em, especially those goobers from NO, makes me sick. Media loves ’em. Panthers should be stuffed and mounted, and the Bucs have lost their ARRRRR. I can go on and on with this subject. Don’t like the Cowboys either, America’s Team? Give me a break, and they’re owned by Emperor Palaptine from the Star Wars Mythos. Just look at him, and then put a robe and cape on the guy, and he looks just like him! He doesn’t have a Darth Vader though. He, he, ha, ha. Trying to be funny!

by falconplanet on May 25, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we went outside the division to avoid....

…the usual Bucs rant you’d get from me. Digging the Star Wars references…just watched the original trilogy on Spike the other day.

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampon Bait

"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, to either side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham

by Zippo729 on May 25, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

For prior article reference. I dig it.

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by Grayson on May 26, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always hated

Philly fans in any sport. Everyone I’ve ever meet is that ignorant loud mouth my team can do nothing wrong every play should be a TD guy. I mean they booed Santa Claus for Pete’s sake. I would love to really get into my hatred but I don’t have the vocabulary to properly represent my stance on the matter so I just gotta stick with god I hate Philly fans.

by gritzblitz on May 25, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

The Eagles suck sooooo bad

by ArthurDank on May 25, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HATE THE EAGLES

Their fans are awful, they have no class. They boo Santa Claus! Not to mention it always seems like they’re kicking us out of the playoffs. And then, there was kciv.

by orion12 on May 25, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

i dont like philly, bears, giants, cowboys, pats,bills, steelers, broncos ,ravens, and our nfc south teams

Weatherspoon1stFalconsPick???

by JJWatt1stfalconspick on May 25, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Jaguars

For a very long time. Also the Bengals.

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it!

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by TomQ on May 25, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dangit...

The Titans. I remember watching their Super Bowl appearance and rooting hard for them. A recently moved/renamed team looking to go against the big boys? Yeah.

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by Adam Schultz on May 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The lions but...

I actually think they might do something. The one thing about them is that they actually created a black hole of swirling nothingness in their secondary by adding meh.

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by Ball Hawk on May 25, 2010 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like the Lions too...

along with the Texans, Colts, and Chiefs.

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by TomQ on May 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked the Cheifs too

Until they got Haley from the Cards that beat us in the Playoffs, Piolo from the Patriots, and got rid of Tyler Thigpen that deserved the starting job after playing so well in ’08 after getting creamed by us in Week 3.

by brotherbrown on May 26, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like the Texans

because Schaub is the man, and he never gets enough credit. And I was born in Texas.

by orion12 on May 26, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also like the Lions.

I’d liked to have cried after they won their first game last year (AGAINST THE REDSKINS) and spent extra time with their fans, thanking them for their support and for holding out against their fails.

It was beautiful; a true embodiment of what professional sports should be like. Now, if they could just win some more.

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by Zippo729 on May 25, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be crazy to see:

Lions and Rams in the NFC Championship
Bills and Browns (or Raiders, or Jaguars) in the AFC Champion?

by brotherbrown on May 26, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

They could do that

Except it would just be the NFC/AFC Toilet Bowl.

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by Zippo729 on May 26, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit and KC

My favorite pro athlete ever (Barry Sanders) and my favorite college athlete ever (Calvin Johnson), and familial ties as stated above for KC.

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by Jason Kirk on May 25, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's always encouraging to see a young man find success despite his disappointing educational background

so Stafford’s ok with me.

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by Jason Kirk on May 26, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hardy har

At least his school’s fight song doesn’t attempt to scare off opponents by praising his engineering acumen. Nothing is more fearful than thermodynamics, but only for students taking the course.

by TheAreopagite on May 26, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was good enough for Elvis and John Wayne.

There are multiple arguments you could easily win here, but you went with the fight song angle. Your fight song has 4 words, and is thus more of a fight intro than an actual fight song.

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by Jason Kirk on May 26, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the Falcons have a song?

I’m pretty sure most teams do.

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by Ball Hawk on May 26, 2010 10:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The entire Quad City DJs catalog

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by Jason Kirk on May 27, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want him to be successful

because after they graduate, I root for UGA guys right after Tech guys. Though it still makes me smile a little when I hear him whimper after getting his shoulder dislocated. They play that sound byte all the time on NFL Network.

by orion12 on May 26, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they aren't wearing the Falcon logo, I don't like them.

But I especially hate the Vikings. All my best friends have turned out to be Viking fans, which made the 1998 NFC championship REALLY interesting. We still squabble over that today.

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by Adam Schultz on May 25, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

we gotta h8 some better teams and make teams hate us

In no particular order:
SAINTS – the team did not deserve that ring as much as the city and they got it before us
 COWBOYS – I h8 everything about them. They have the most arrogant fans of any team and they are the self proclaimed "Americas Team." It almost feels biased like they are supposed to win
 EAGLES – feel like they’re overrated and I dnt like how it went down last year
 BUCS – hungry young divisional threat who’s goal is always to beat us
RAVENS – let’s face it ryan vs flacco is a real rivalry always and 4ever like Melo and Lebron and after the Thursday nite game there will be a lot to be said. + all the football "experts" have them rated better than us.
Gotta prove were 4real this year

by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on May 25, 2010 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

rec

but you forgot the Jets

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 26, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Darn them all to HECK!

Especially the cowboys, saints and panthers. It always seems to get nasty when we play Jerry’s kids.

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by Ball Hawk on May 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Please get back up to NE and say this SH!T

Punk A$$ biatch. You sure your real name isn’t Richard Head?? All your buddies called you D!CK right? You deserve your new life down there in the Ahole of the country.

by InstantKarma on May 25, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I do live in New England

Have my entire life. Thanks for stopping by.

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How in the world you became a Falcons fan?

If you lived in New England all your life?

Was it that 41-10 beating Atlanta gave New England in 1998?

by brotherbrown on May 26, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

As best I can remember, I've been a fan since 1988

When I was four years old. I’d like to give you a grand origin story, but the truth is I don’t remember how I started liking them. I just always have, and I refuse to abandon a team once I pick them.

That’s how I ended up a Falcons, St. Louis Cardinals and Boston Celtics fan. Go figure.

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by Dave Choate on May 26, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's just mad they haven't been a contender since comrade quit.

He did after all bring them Brady and Moss.

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by Ball Hawk on May 26, 2010 1:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not surprised

If a Patriots fan lit into our team, I expect we’d see some of the folks here heading over to Pats Pulpit. Comes with the territory.

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's kinda what I meant...

See my earlier comment on this thread.

One of the things I like most about this blog is that everyone generally ascribes to the “Do not feed the trolls” principle. But this post is like leaving a plate of mince pies and a glass of brandy out for the trolls, with a note saying “Dear Father Trollmas, please troll the crap out of us, we totally asked for it.”

Still, it was a pretty funny post and I guess a troll-war would at least give us something to do while we’re waiting for the season to start…

by Ignoramus on May 25, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, mince pies

I didn’t really think of it that way when I wrote it, but you’re right. I don’t normally go out of my way to express hate for a team, but it seemed like a good way to generate discussion. I regret nothing!

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by Dave Choate on May 25, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd come at em' like a spider monkey.

Witch one of them punks wanna get punched in the mouth?

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by Ball Hawk on May 25, 2010 7:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

damn!

Did Dimitroff pick tom brady?

by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on May 27, 2010 5:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

LOL - seriously.

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by TomQ on May 26, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet throwaway account

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by Jason Kirk on May 25, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate the

eagles, giants, jets, cowboys, and of course those damn saints! i honestly see more and more people everyday wearing saints gear, i always ask, “what made you wanna be a saints fan?” and the response 4 tomes out of 5 is, “they won the superbowl baby!” the philly fans make me hate the eagles…they’re awful. but i think the saints fans are making a run for the most hated in the leauge..

HOW MUCH MONEY DID THE SAINTS GIVE THE REFS?!?!?!?!

by dirtybirds233 on May 25, 2010 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

UNRELATED: Can I pay you to change your signature?

What’s your price?

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by Jason Kirk on May 25, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

Australian Atlanta Falcons Fan EST 2003

Falcons are my life,
Falcons are my soul,
I watch them through all the strife,
Until they get that Superbowl.

by Grayson on May 26, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys wouldn't believe how much that cost.

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by Jason Kirk on May 26, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh. you should add "for free"

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by TomQ on May 26, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate

The Pittsburg Steelers. I live in Western PA and have to deal with some of the most obnoxious fans in football. They love a player until he makes a mistake, then they hate him with all of their guts. I get crap because to them the Falcons are and always will be on a downward spiral because we have no ring. And anytime I make a decent argument all I get back is “it’s Sixburg, not pittsburg” The fan base is the primary reason for me hating them. and of course I hate the Panthers, Saints, and Bucs!

by mc29012 on May 25, 2010 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Also:
Remember, I’m not an Atlanta native. Maybe there’s some direct approximation I’m missing out on here that you can educate me about. I will say this: I have never seen a team transform from NFL afterthought to America’s darling in less time than the New England Patriots.

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by Jason Kirk on May 25, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

who?

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 27, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

no that's the Atlanta Braves A

Alabama doesn’t have blue in it

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 27, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, i'm so stupid.

I’ve lived 20 miles from the braves for a better part of 33 yrs. It was a bad joke. I’m almost never serious.

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by Ball Hawk on May 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah it was

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 28, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa there scooter.

Truth is I’m a Falcon by choice but a Brave by birth.

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by Ball Hawk on May 28, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

my teams were choice

my parents don’t care about sports

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 28, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowboys, Redskins, Raiders, 49ers… all teams I just can’t stand.

by Caviarhound on May 25, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking of people's color's of skins and race.

We do realized that in the past few months MARTA has changed the name of their Northeast Line from Yellow to Gold…for obvious reasons?

by brotherbrown on May 26, 2010 2:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Resisting terrible jokes is a good idea

One I’m going to adhere to here.

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by Dave Choate on May 26, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

If MARTA was run like the Washington Redskins,

they would’ve changed that line’s name from Yellow Line to The Yellow Peril Eat Dogs Ahh So as soon as they learned it ran through an Asian neighborhood. In tasteful tribute, of course.

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by Jason Kirk on May 26, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are despicable, good sir.

Let me applaud you.

You have opinions. We all do. Some of yours may have to do with the Falcons. Sign up today and share them.

by Adam Schultz on May 26, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahh marta sounds like a bus line?

 My first thought when the mention of yellow line was an old Frank Zappa song.
Watch out where the husky’s go and don’t you eat the yellow snow.

by Funballad on May 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's our lovably dilapidated mass transit system.

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by Jason Kirk on May 26, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

there are many teams to root against but only one team to hate

I have long said that i have two favorite NFL teams:

1 – Atlanta Falcons
2 – the team that is playing against Dallas that week

by epbdl on May 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I totally agree with you on that!

by falconplanet on May 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a dual fan

Falcons my first love.
Seahawks are as close to a hometown as i have in the NFL so i slowly became a fan for them too.
Once upon a time i was also a cowboy fan until Tom Landry was unceramoniously kicked to the curb.
Now I love to hate them too.
I may develop a soft spot for the browns depending on how things go for the walrus, mike holgrem

by Funballad on May 26, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I almost turned into a titans fan

during the recent dark ages (05-07) when Vick was in prison and we realized that we can’t win with out him until Matty Ice. Don’t get me wrong I still like them, they’re my AFC team

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 27, 2010 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Gasp!

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by Dave Choate on May 27, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not that big of a deal

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 27, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not

I’m just kiddin’ with you, man.

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by Dave Choate on May 27, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha :)

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 28, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Chargers

I felt like we beat up the local bully who is always more talented and always had the coolest toys when we signed Michael Turner.

by thisistherevolt on May 27, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Man trolls are lame

I’m a Saints fan and I love the hate. Wouldn’t trade the Falcons-Saints rivalry for anything.

by AJG on May 27, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I love how we keep a veneer of respect

On a seething, bubbling cauldron of hatred. Really works wonders.

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by Dave Choate on May 27, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's one rivalry that even better than ours

unfortunately it’s Philadelphia vs Dallas

...in dixie land i'll take my stand to root for Atlanta

by southman on May 28, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

hate is fine

but i prefer jealousy… btw, i was trying to make it to my first saints falcons game in atl, until the schedulers screwed us by putting it right after christmas, dammit

AMBUSH!!

by DrewBreesManCrush on May 28, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Redskins" . . .

. . . is an awesome name. It connotes strength, savagery, mystery, cunning, unpredictability, elusiveness, speed, wisdom . . . it’s a perfect name for an NFL team. I have no idea why anyone should feel that it negatively impacts American Indians.

The only people who object to it are uptight, Caucasian busybodies, and American Indian grievance mongers and shakedown artists.

F*** the ’Skins; I hate ’em; but they have a very cool name.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on May 28, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

As someone that is 25% Seminole Indian myself...

…all these idiots whining about teams with such names as the Redskins, Indians, Seminoles, et al are just that:

IDIOTS with too much free time on their hands. We ain’t bothered, why are YOU?

STFU and go protect baby seals or something that needs your help, we’re doing just fine…

Who Dat? TWO DAT! Do dat AGAIN!!!

by GSO Saints Fan on May 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misnomer.

Seminoles are actually displaced Cherokee. That name didn’t exist til late 1800s.

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by Ball Hawk on May 28, 2010 4:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Excuse me i'm wrong

Creek not Cherokee. But a rich and awesome heritage none the less despite us honkeys. I’m down with Indian names, it’s just cool. They are warriors and proud of it.

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by Ball Hawk on May 28, 2010 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

They are warriors and proud of it.

Do you mean casino operators and proud of it?

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by DrWhoDat on May 29, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

The USMC are warriors

"We've got 27 ways to add up to 11 (players on the field). I came up with another one last night." -- Greg Williams

by DrWhoDat on May 29, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are welcome here, but racist jokes aren't.

CSC can’t complain about Vikings fans making Katrina jokes if you guys are going to do that shit too.

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by Jason Kirk on May 29, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize

I was trying to make fun of the guy that said they are warriors just because they are a race. Isn’t that racism?

I have some Chickasaw Indian in me. I also served in the Military training to be a warrior and have killed other warriors. I say that just to let you get a glimpse of my thought process.

Once again I apologize, my joke was in bad taste, I should have just directly attacked Ball Hawk. Or just kept my hole shut.

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by DrWhoDat on May 29, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paragraph 3:

http://www.moviediva.com/MD_root/reviewpages/MDRedskin.htm

Richard Dix plays an Navajo abducted to a government boarding school as a child, but his partial assimilation into white society leaves him neither Indian or white, just “Redskin”.

This movie is from 1929. The Redskins were founded in 1932. That’s what the word meant at the time — a person with no ethnicity, no culture, and no identity, just a skin tone.

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by Jason Kirk on May 28, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, connoting savagery is clearly not a good thing.

Those are all stereotypes, but savagery? Come on.

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by Jason Kirk on May 28, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Indian warrior . . .

. . . is one of the top great American archetypes; why obliterate it to satisfy the sensibilities of people who have absolutely no stake in its use? If it’s erased from sports and confined only to the history books, how does that serve the legacy of American Indians?

Furthermore, if you’re coming at this from a center-left PC angle, weren’t native redskins a force of courageous resistance against the oppressive incursion of “the white man?” Why they’re like proto-Palestinians! They should be celebrated with their own high-contrast T-shirts on college campuses nationwide!

And if you don’t think savagery is an attractive quality in a football player, then you’ve never played defense or offensive line.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on May 29, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

sav·age (svj)
adj.
1. Not domesticated or cultivated; wild: savage beasts of the jungle.
2. Not civilized; barbaric: a people living in a savage state.
3. Ferocious; fierce: in a savage temper.
4. Vicious or merciless; brutal: a savage attack on a political rival. See Synonyms at cruel.
5. Lacking polish or manners; rude.
n.
1. A person regarded as primitive or uncivilized.
2. A person regarded as brutal, fierce, or vicious.

You could say “oh, well, I only meant definition 4, not all that uncivilized, rude, barbaric stuff.” But, sadly, words don’t work like that. Redskin means savage, in every sense. It’s a loaded word.

I played O line and D line. If you wanted to call a team the Savage Warriors or the Brutal Beasts, then fine, who cares. That’s not referencing a real-life group of people, of whom 99.9% are not uncivilized hellraisers. It’s when you reference a specific group of people, using a loaded word, that it’s a problem.

FSU uses a Native American name and nobody cares. It’s clearly a show of respect. Nothing about the word Redskin is a show of respect. It seems you guys keep going back to this POLITICAL CORRECT NO INDIAN NAMES LOL thing, but that’s a whole other argument that I’ve never made. I’m not talking about banning all Native American names, or whatever the fuck. I’m talking about avoiding ethnic slurs. I don’t see what’s so difficult about this.

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by Jason Kirk on May 29, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You played lineman?

Quite skinny for that business, I think. As a kid I played nose tackle, now I’m a buck 85 doling wet.

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by Ball Hawk on May 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*soaking

Rule #1: Double tap.

by Ball Hawk on May 29, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll let you have the last word here, if you want

I doubt we’re going to resolve this issue any time soon, and we don’t want to keep getting worked up about this non-football stuff. Thanks for stopping by

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by Jason Kirk on May 29, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK, Last Word . . .

Clearly you’re offended by “Redskin,” so I apologize for my position.

I just don’t think that it amounts to anything at all negative and if 90% of American Indians are completely unoffended, and support its preservation, it’s hard to argue that the alleged slur-ness outweighs the positive appreciation of the term. Their skin may be red, but it’s not thin.

"Why would I even consider taking the ball out of Drew Brees’ hands?’’

by DrZin on May 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Oh wait you are another Saints fan.

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by DrWhoDat on May 29, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Media darlings make us crazy.

“us” as in fans. I can see why. Other than that, and a long storied rivalry, hating the fans in your division as though you’ve always been the good guys never being the obnoxious jerks in your times of success is to have selective memory.

Otherwise reading this was genuinely humorous, which I think was mostly the intent.

Yeah, that Colston. As in Marques, as in the Saints.

And how anyone could hate on Drew Brees is almost unimaginable. Seriously.

by CrazyforColston on May 28, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate the Falcons

Since Billy “White Shoes” Johnson was a player, I have hated the Falcons. I don’t care if the Saints don’t win any other games just beat the Falcons. I mean like a red headed step child.

I keep a diary of “snot-knocker” hits. That is when a Saints player hits a Falcon player hard enough to knock a snot bubble out of his nose. If the Saints could beat the Falcons by 90 points I would die a happy man.

Mwahahaha

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by DrWhoDat on May 28, 2010 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Now we're talking

All that rooting-for-each-other stuff from last year was so 1969. Time to get back to eyeing each other sideways at all times.

Also,

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