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A Look At Falcons Cornerbacks, Sans Chris Houston

Okay, this is the last post about cornerbacks for a little while. Unless the team isn't done wheeling and dealing, of course.

Of course, you all heard the big news that the Falcons re-signed long snapper Joe Zelenka, and of course...wait. Sorry, that's the other big news from Monday. The news I was referring to was the Falcons' trading Chris Houston to the Detroit Lions, a team so cornerback-starved that all the fans over at Pride of Detroit are excited to get him. Bless their hearts. While the Falcons moved up in the fifth round and picked up a sixth round pick, one the driving factors behind that move was freeing up some space on a very crowded depth chart. I'm glad to have the depth chart, and I'm sure Houston's glad to have a shot at playing time he certainly wasn't going to get in Atlanta. The question is, how will that depth chart shake out now that he's on the next train to the City of Cars?

This is primarily intended to be a discussion post, but I will of course start you off with my own thoughts on the position, articulated in a tiny bit more detail than in the many comments I've posted in recent days about the position. You can find that after the jump.

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The Depth Chart

Dunta Robinson: Easy decision. He's making the big bucks and the team likes his coverage skills.

Chris Owens: Fluid in coverage, with excellent instincts. Still question marks due to a lack of experience.

Brent Grimes: A prototype nickel back. He should be able to grab his fair share of picks and jump routes here.

Chevis Jackson: An underrated cornerback who can step in where needed. Will probably play inside, mostly.

Brian Williams: A steady veteran presence who will move up as needed. His skill set is clearly declining.

Tye Hill: Unless he works miracles, he may not even make the team.

Magic Draft Pick: If Williams or Hill isn't viewed as an answer, you'll know as soon as the draft. Go go, magic corner!

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This is tough...

Robinson is the clear number one (I hope). I think there is going to be a real competition for the second position between Grimes, Owens, and Williams. My head tells me Williams, and my heart is torn between Grimes and Owens. Like I said – it’s going to be a vicious battle in training camp. All the better!

All of a sudden, I feel like we’re DEEP in this position.

by TomQ on Mar 9, 2010 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Well

as I stated man times last season, Houston, we have a problem. Teh guys is uber weak in pass coverage and more times than not way out of position. Unless your Deion Sanders you cant play that far off of someone and expect to get back to the ball. I wish Detriot luck with the guy. I dont think they will have any. We are much better off now with the guys we have. I dont see Hill maing the squad at all at this point, but stranger things have happened.

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by Hardcore Falcon on Mar 9, 2010 8:59 AM EST reply actions  

I like what someone said on a previous thread:

“Detroit, we have a Houston.” Sorry I can’t properly attribute that great quote right now. Feel free to take credit if you read this!

by TomQ on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Williams will be cut

Then flip flop Owens and Grimes … and I concur

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by FrankyWren on Mar 9, 2010 9:38 AM EST reply actions  

QUESTION?

How many corners do teams typically carry during the season?

I didn’t see enough of Tye Hill to form an opinion of him. I guess the preseason will tell…

by falcons11 on Mar 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

5-6 is typical, and I’m pretty sure we started out with 6 last season.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Mar 9, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

most teams keep 5??

52 man roster, but I think this may be the year to keep 6, knowing that Brian Williams can also back-up Free Safety
THE ONLY way they keep 6, is if they draft one they really like in the 3rd or 4th. IMO

by durst on Mar 9, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

I think either Chevis or Williams will be kept around as a backup safety

It would save the team a roster spot, arguably.

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by Dave Choate on Mar 9, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys stole my thunder

I was in the middle of a lengthy post about why Brian Williams will probably stick because the team started out with 6 CB’s last season, and he was effectively the backup FS (when he went to IR, the team signed safety Jamaal Fudge).

So now I’ll just say yes, I agree with you guys.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Mar 9, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, thunder stealing is pretty common for me

My father was Thor and my mother was a klepto.

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by Dave Choate on Mar 9, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

I’m not a fan of LOL or lolz or whatever the kids are saying on the dang internet these days. But I had to tell you I actually did laugh out loud for that one…

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by orang3b on Mar 9, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If you had to type as much as I do every day you would be for any form of shorthand possible

thus why I make so many typos in my posts. I am typing so fast I cant keep up.

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by Hardcore Falcon on Mar 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I see

Robinson on the right (obvious) and Owens on the left starting. I think Grimes will be the nickle and back up behind Robinson since it seemed he played better on the right. And I think Williams will back up Owens. Jackson and/or Tye Hill will be special teams.

by Fear Me on Mar 9, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Good observation on Grimes

It might’ve been just coincidence, but you’re right – he played much better after Houston got hurt and he was starting at RCB.

"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein

by orang3b on Mar 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Hill might not make the team

He did not contribute much last year but they might have been saving him for 2010. If the team picks up a stud DB in the draft someone is gone and I would lean toward Hill.

by mwalex on Mar 9, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions  

well...

“a team so cornerback-starved that all the fans over at Pride of Detroit are excited to get him. Bless their hearts.”

funny, i thought the same thing about yall and dunta

good luck

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by Allen-OU on Mar 9, 2010 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

i think it all depends on Owens

i would not be at all surprised to see him totally break out this year. I thought he was very impressive as a rookie, and with a year of experience under his belt, this could be the year he blossoms into something special. trying to not be a delusional fan and i’m not predicting anything, but i really wouldn’t be surprised at all if that happens.

Robinson is obviously your #1, but if Owens comes along like he could, i’d see him as the #2 with Grimes playing the nickel. If i had to make a guess on the opening day starters though, it would be Robinson as the #1 and Williams as the #2.

And that’s not at all a knock on Grimes… i thought he showed a lot last year and i think he’s an important piece of our secondary. For some reason though (call it my gut), i think when Grimes and Owens both get to the end of their careers, Owens will have been more of a standout. I think he just has way more potential for some reason. I have a feeling he’s gonna be one of those feather’s in Dimitroff’s cap when all is said and done.

by cheshire falcon on Mar 9, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

also

if you have an extra CB that yall cut, we could use one.

so send williams our way.

after the first saints game yall will all be saying FUCK DUNTA.

sorry if were arent allowed to cuss in here…

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by Allen-OU on Mar 9, 2010 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

eh...

i don’t think we are allowed to cuss on here.

i think you’re being a little presumptuous on Dunta… he might be a bust and he might not. there are arguments to be made both ways. i think it’s tough to argue that he’s completely incompetent though, and all the Falcons needed was a competent corner who’s not in his first or last year. i think a lot of Houston fans misunderstood the move as the Falcons had “finally found their #1 shutdown corner!”. i think fans who thought that were delusional and i don’t think the team even needs him to be that. they had a ton of turbulence in the secondary last year and i think he provides them with some stability.

so i dunno, you could be right, but you could be dead wrong. i think the truth will likely lie somewhere in the middle, and if that’s the case, it’s a great pickup for the Falcons and exactly what they needed. time will tell my friend.

by cheshire falcon on Mar 9, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, cussing is a no-no

Please refrain in the future.

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by Dave Choate on Mar 9, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

say geezinslaw

works better for all of us…..again geezinslaw…thank you

by gritzblitz on Mar 9, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it

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by Dave Choate on Mar 9, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if coaching played a bigger role than is given credit.

It looked to me like our cornerback problems were systemic last year. I wasn’t disheartened that Chris Houston never turned his head back towards the QB, I was upset that NONE of the corners looked back at the play. That’s coaching.

I was an Emmitt Thomas fan, but I’m hoping Tim Lewis can make a real difference and teach the secondary to read the play, not just the receiver. It would have been fun to see if Houston could improve dramatically under new leadership.

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by AnOldBird on Mar 9, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Despite the signing....

…of Dunta (which was one of my favorite words to say last fall and my roommates can attest to that) I would still like to have Kyle Wilson. Just sayin….

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by BiggityBen on Mar 9, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

Robinson and Williams will start with Owens and Grimes getting solid playing time. Tye Hill will be gone before season starts. Jackson and a 5th round pick will be further backups. As I said before, I like a what we gotta.

Let’s focus on DE and LB position. This draft we need to find two solid DEs that we can develop into starters. Anderson/Abraham are both in their twilights and I just don’t see the beloved Biermann or Sidbury taking control of the Ends. Therefore using our 1st and a later round pick on DEs would be a wise choice. I could see us using the 3rd on best available and it’ll be a TE, WR, RB or CB.

Ben Tate and Pitta both intriguing choices in the 3rd or 4th, but many CBs we won’t be able to pass up.

by JCush on Mar 9, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Here's my take

His athleticism and ballhawking would make him an ideal fit there because he’s not being asked to shadow a guy all the time, and that would allow him to make more plays on the ball.

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by Dave Choate on Mar 9, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Cornerbacks

Thank the Football Gods Houston is gone. No offense but, he wasn’t doing much for us. I like keeping Brian Williams because he only has to cover the number 2 receiver. Which helps. Here’s something interesting to think about. Every year that we picked up a new free agent since the new era that free agent had a pretty standout year. Turner year 1 Gonzalez (although expected) year 2 and now Robinson. I wouldn’t be surprised if Robinson brings back smash mouth football to us which I feel we need. Think of it this way. Robinson is a bump and run corner. Willie Moore was drafted for huge hits. Throw in a good pash rushing DE or OLB and we have ourselves a defense. I still think we need more blitz packages though.

by SquallCloud on Mar 9, 2010 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

Grimes competing for starter?

ESPN reports that Grimes will compete with Williams for the #2 spot:

Grimes will compete with Brian Williams for the No. 2 cornerback spot. If he doesn’t win that, he’s probably the favorite over Christopher Owens and Chevis Jackson to be the nickel back.

by wiesengrund on Mar 10, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

/facepalm

With Brian Williams? Jesus.

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by Dave Choate on Mar 10, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really REALLY hoping that’s only Patty Y’s opinion, not something coming from team officials…

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by orang3b on Mar 10, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

This is where my objection to signing Williams comes from in the first place

It’s in a head coach’s nature to love that veteran grit and hustle, even if it equates to lesser play on the field. If Williams beats out Grimes and Owens, it better be because both of them have taken up scrapbooking as a career.

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by Dave Choate on Mar 10, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hey, that’s me! He cut off the 2nd half of my question, though…

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by orang3b on Mar 12, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, sorry… Basically, that Owens was starting over Grimes at the end of the year (Grimes didn’t get back into the line-up until after Houston hurt his hamstring), and should be in the driver’s seat for the LCB spot (especially considering how high Dimitroff seems to be on him). So I guess that part wasn’t really a question, but my reasons why I thought his statement was wrong – unless he got word from the team that it was going to be Williams/Grimes.

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