Report: Falcons Sign Dunta Robinson To Six Year Deal
by Dave Choate on Mar 5, 2010 6:28 PM EST
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The virtually infalliable Adam Schefter wrote it, so it must be true: The Falcons have ended an intense day of negotiations with former Houston Texans cornerback Dunta Robinson by signing him to a six year contract.
Virtually everything Thomas Dimitroff has done to this point has engendered faith in his personnel abilities, so I'm working very hard to overcome my initial level of discomfort with this signing. By the time the contract is over, Robinson would be 33 years-old, and he's coming off of back-to-back lackluster seasons, isn't known as a ballhawk and appeared last year to have somewhat of an attitude problem. He's managed only 13 interceptions in his career thus far.
Of course, what Dimitroff must see is the talent, and despite Robinson's recent struggles it's hard to deny that he still has the potential to return to the form that made him a pretty darn good corner from 2004-2007. He has the potential to be our best coverage cornerback for the next three years, at least, and the Falcons are clearly banking on a change of scenery doing his game a favor. The financial terms haven't yet been released, so we don't know how expensive a gamble this really is.
Basically, at the best we just locked up a potentially top-notch cover cornerback for six years. At the worst, we just committed more than half a decade to a guy who is already on the downside of his career. Let's all hope for the best and welcome Dunta Robinson to Atlanta.
After all, for better or worse, he's a Falcon now.
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Part of me wants to go FFFFFFUUUUUUUU
the other part wants to go “WEATHERSPOON.”
pick your poison.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
yes and no
I don’t how happy I should be. He will definitely help, but we need a pass rush man. He is not a shutdown corner either, but if we get a rush we’ll be alright. Grimes will get some pics and Williams should get some too, but without that rush Grimes and company will be toast!
Why all the doom and gloom, everybody?
We just got the best FA corner available and are coming off two productive seasons. Sure Revis or Asomugha would be preferable but there isn’t a snowball chance in hell of that happening. This was the best option in our situation.
Yes, there is some risking in signing a big time free agent (just as there was Turner and Abraham), but why not have faith in our proven front office and hope for the best?
Even if he is only a mild upgrade, that still puts us in a better position to contend next year while giving our younger guys some competition. Plus, if things don’t work out – we can always cut him (thanks to the lack of a salary cap).
Dunta was rated the #3 FA in this year’s group and the top CB
Falcons need good secondary players to beat NO
I think Dunta is a great addition
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
i think it's dun-tuh or doon-tuh
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
WHAT
you’ve gotta be kiddin me.no way he approves of that.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
It's like Donte, only with a uh.
DUN-tay
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I see no need for worry
He was the best corner available. The Falcons needed a corner. The Falcons signed him. If you ask any fan of any team if they would like the best free agent available at (arguably) their biggest position of need, you wouldn’t see many instances of this kind of worry or consternation. Coupling this with the return of Williams seriously upgrades the team’s secondary. I wholeheartedly approve.
Time will tell...
6 years is a long time, but it is an uncapped year so maybe this is not a bad gamble. I can only see this as an upgrade and along with the resigning of B-Will we have our secondary locked up next year at least: DR, BW, WM, TD. With Jerry coming back on he D-line, that leaves room to go after Graham from Mich. or O-line help. And also gives Grimes a chance to shine in the underrated nickel slot. But there is so much depth in this draft i dont think the we can go wrong no matter what direction we go. We just need to get the most talent we can grab up, and not worry so much about position need. With this signing and the impending draft, I am optimistic as always about having a good and exciting season this year.
About Graham...
I think we should go after another LB. Him leaving the combine with a hamstring pull scares me. Hamstring pulls are a very underrated and evil injury.
Maybe Im overly excited
But I LOVE this move.
We can get a great LB in 1st (Kindle or Weatherspoon).
And I did look into this, Hughes is ranked 7th and 8th on a good bit of the draft boards by the “pros”, and I THINK and HOPER and PRAY he falls to the third.
What's not to like?
Falcons get a talented player at a position of need – CB – and don’t have to give up a draft pick or a player in trade
FA signings trump draft picks and trades because the team doesn’t lose anything
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
except cap space.
sans this upcoming year of course.
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"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
It's all been a big joke
Were really signing Chris Houston to a 17 year deal for 95M….No really, this isn’t bad news.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 8:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
fantastic. the hallucinations are starting.
same hair……same stature……same number……..by God, Ball Hawk….we signed Chris Houston away from Houston! He’s going to play BOTH CB positions now, at the same time, with a doppelganger. We’re doomed.
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by Zippo729 on Mar 5, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
23
Wasn’t there a movie called 23 where there were 23s everywhere and it was like the end of the world or something?
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 6, 2010 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
yes 23 was a jim carrie movie
I can’t remember details but i think he had amnesia….a dog catcher with mental issues if i remember rightly
OK ... that was funny
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I agree that this is a great move for the falcons...
You have to realize that not only is robinson an upgrade to everything we currently have at CB on our roster, but that TD and coach Smith build teams by adding players with certain talents to a team to achieve their overall goals. With the addition of robinson we have now solidified an area that was a glaring weakness last season!! And now we can completely concentrate on the pass rush come draft time…. and some offense too. This keeps the Falcons in contention and improving for next season just as their competitors are!!
LETS GO FALCONS!!!
by ATLsince1972 on Mar 5, 2010 8:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I THINK THE CONTRACT WILL BE....
about 25 million over 6 years with 7 million up front and about 3 million per year. NO MORE THAN THIS, OR WE PAID WAY TOO MUCH. It would be a steal at say 6 years 19 million with 4 million up front and 2.5 million per year.
I think you missed it.
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Yeah. Like by a lot.
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somethings telling me though
that we paid out the ass on this one and gave him say 6 years and 41 million , with 5 million up front and 6 million per season. I HOPE NOT!!
Keep going…
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hahahaha
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What makes it good...
Options, options, options. This allows more flexibility in our upcoming draft. Instead of reaching for a CB (which I think any CB taken after Joe Haden in the first round would of been) we can now take the best defensive front 7 on the board. And for my money, I’m thinking Weatherspoon.
I would also very much like Mryon Rolle as well. We have a class organization now and I’d like to see some more class talent fill up the roster.
I don’t know much about this guy, so I won’t throw my opinion of him out there. But look at the last two years of big time FAs. 2008, Michael Turner, 2009, Tony Gonzales. So far TD and MS have been 2/2. I have no doubt they made the correct move here.
The guy wanted out of Houston, so obviously he wasn’t playing his hardest. Put him in a positive atmosphere, with good coaches, and I think he will turn it all around and have a good year.
With the resigning of Brian Williams, this let’s the team develop Owens more, without all the pressure. Grimes will be number 3, and the other guys will have to battle it out for the rest.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Mar 5, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Wrong
he said just a few weeks ago that he wouldnt mind being taged again meaning he wanted to stay in houston but we didnt want him back. all of us in houston are really happy to get him out. hes not what he used to be and i hope plays better with you cuz i hate the sAINTS, but you just might have been screwed. HARD
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FOOTBALL FAIL. If a player wants out of a place he plays EXTYRA HARD so that other teams will want to sign him.
Nobody signs a quitter.
This is why we refer to “contract years” when discusssing a player’s performance.
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by TexansForever on Mar 10, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Early Bird ..
gets the worm
Glad TD and Blank and Smith moved fast on this deal
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
But the second mouse gets the cheese....
You guys are the first mouse…..you just don’t know it yet.
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by TexansForever on Mar 10, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I always considered Dunta to be a good corner.
Till I looked at his production. His numbers have steadily declined each year. Now whether thats down to injury issues or whether its down to his contract negotiations with Houston I could not care less.
The simple fact is this guy has the potential to be a top corner in this league and everyone who is going, “Oh no we are doomed!” Needs to stop, think and then react.
Think about it, I am 100% positive that Mike Smith and co will get this guy where he needs to be. Also we don’t know how miserable Robinson was with the Texans, because remember they have NEVER been to the playoffs. So maybe playing for a team with playoff potential gets him into gear.
Whatever it is I am sure that things will work themselves out and hopefully things work themselves out.
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Dunta has been gunshy since his injury and his coverage numbers were horrible last year.
If you find any in Houston who is sad to see him leave, it’s probably someone related to him.
Good luck though, I hope he turns his game around for you guys.
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by TexansForever on Mar 5, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Thought I'd pass this along
Houston media is reporting (or speculating) that Dunta is getting $27 million guaranteed…total number not known.
Again, who knows how sure the media is, but thought some of you may wanna know…
Well, depends on how that breaks down....
…and of course there’s additional money involved. But $6 million per isn’t nearly as bad as I was bracing myself for, and it could actually be less than that. Sure, by year five or six he’s likely to be worth substantially less than that, but this is the NFL. If he’s not effective, he’ll be gone long before that.
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This is true...you have to wait and see how it breaks down
If I had to speculate, based on how every other contract has been today (that the guarantee is 1/2 to 1/3 the contract), I’d guess it’s 6 years for $45-55 million with 27 of that guaranteed.
Here's one link...
I’m hearing Dunta Robinson is getting 27 mil guaranteed on his six-year deal that will be announced Saturday. That’s great for him.
- Houston Chronicle writer John McClain via Twitter
Gauranteed?
Stinky pete, who does the negotiating around here. I could have got him cheaper.
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I like the move.
I’m damn concerned that we put, like a brazillion defensive backs on the DL last year. If our strength and conditioning doesn’t upgrade, we’re spending a bunch of dollars to warm the bench.
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Good
I think this is a great pickup. This will let us use our 1st round pick on another position that needs upgrading like DE or LB. My thoughts are for them to pick Sean Witherspoon but let’s see. The kid did nothing but impress me during his combine workout. Another DT for the rotation would be nice. I think Barry Cofield from the Giants would be great to rotate with starters Babineaux and Jerry but the Giants want a second round pick for him.
I like Tank Johnson too. He may have had off the field problems before but I think he’s a great player. I mean the Bears got rid of him because of the gun charges he faced that year not for poor play. Bengals are his most recent team and they want to resign him because he’s played pretty good for them. Other than that I don’t see too much talent in the LB crop of free agency and we could focus our energy towards the draft then.
On a stranger note, why haven’t we gotten rid of Mr. 2 1/2 sacks in 3 seasons Jamaal Anderson yet? I wouldn’t doubt if they give him another year. If they do, someone better light a fire under his a$$. I mean they drafted him for a reason…..right?
I think at this point
His contributions against the run are good enough that they’re willing to ignore the fact that he isn’t a capable pass rusher. Then again, they could cut him.
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He gets a good push but can't shed his OL.
That’s just what I’ve seen in my limited viewing experience.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
You really better hope he was doggin it last year
Or your gonna see a lot of Superman er I mean Dunta flying by ball carriers.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
ATL and guns go together like peas and carrots.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 10:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and weed, don't forget weed.
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Of course, it should be said that we're ignoring the real benefit here
If he’s even marginally good, and we can now use multiple draft picks to address the front seven and our woeful pass rush, we may just kick some serious ass in 2010.
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sounds good
i would have much rathered made our D line better in FA with Kampman, Vanden B, or Peppers…drafted an OLB, drafing CB later in the draft and for the most part stuck with our secondary
Worst move of TD's reign thus far ...
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by FrankyWren on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
It certainly looks like it
But keep in mind that Turner wasn’t a lock when we got him, that it looked like we had given up an awful lot for Tony Gonzalez and that Domonique Foxworth was just a plain ol’ head-scratcher. I don’t like it, but I’m willing to see what Dunta can do.
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It’s gonna be ok there trigger. What was the other option? Trade our invaluable picks for who? Maybe get a guy put of the draft untested and green? Nah I’m pretty sure this will prove to be a solid football move. We need to sure up the pass rush. I really don’t think we’re done in FA either.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 11:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
*out of the draft
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Mr. Negative?
Thanks. Appreciate it.
He’s a fine corner, just like Houston is, but unless our pass rush significantly improves, we’ll have the same issues defending the pass next year. There were other options.
(1) don’t sign him to a six year contract
(2) trade up in the draft and go get a corner in the first round
Think what you want, but you don’t have resort to name calling because I disagree with one move the franchise makes, especially when everything I have said has been based on objective stats, he simply is not a no. 1 corner. So now we have two no. 2 corners, one of which (Houston) everyone wanted to burn at the stake next year. But now we’re supposed to be excited because they signed his value twin? No thanks Sally (see … I can name call too).
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by FrankyWren on Mar 5, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
burn at the stake next year = burn at the stake last year
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Sorry, no harm intended...
But it will be fine. I just can’t believe it could be much worse. With an improved pass rush, a healthy team and a few good picks we are a contender. Not exactly the end is all I’m saying.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh yeah easier schedule.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 11:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm changing my name to Sally.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hahaha
call me “Trigga” or “Mista Negative” …
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it's OK ...
No harm no foul. In the end, I hope he excels, in fact, I hope he’s f’in awesome.
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by FrankyWren on Mar 5, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You really think
a rookie would be a better DB than Robinson? No way, not even realistic. If Robinson fits into the team scheme he will be a good pick up. If we get a better pass rush he will allow the young DB’s to grow into their positions.
My only conern is that ATL has been picking up a lot of players that have either had major injuries or are prone to injuries.
next year?
No. Absolutely not. But the year after that? Maybe. And the year after that? Very possibly. Especially since Dunta has been on the decline since ’07.
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by FrankyWren on Mar 6, 2010 2:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Your points are valid
but someone mentioned earlier about Robinson needing a change in venue so let’s see what happens.
The problem is still the pash rush. NO corner will shut down a WR without a pass rush. Picking up Robinson allow ATL to go after more urgent needs in the draft, like a DL or LB.
Regardless of numbers Robinson has shown to be a talented player so lets have some faith in TD and MS. If Robinson doesn’t play well we have some young guys that can step up.
Best of luck on this signing Falcons. And THANK YOU for taking him.
I hope he works out for you guys but we are thrilled to see him out of Houston.
Again, Thank You and best of luck with D-Rob.
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by TexansForever on Mar 5, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Be Optimistic........
like Dave said earlier,I’m pretty sure some people had some questions about Michael Turner when we signed him. So far so good. He was the best corner on the market. And do we really want another young corner groom? To me it seemed like the best option. Now we can take care of our front seven.
by dunndada77 on Mar 5, 2010 11:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This.
dunndada77 here pretty much has it summed up. Most any player that tests free agency is going to have SOME questions. There’s a reason their teams don’t let them come back. Look at Sproles. The Chargers would have been fools to let him go because of all the FAs he would’ve been one of the better locks.
We’re all speculating about whether DR is going to play worth his salt or not, but do you REALLY think that TD and the front office didn’t look at Dunta with an electron microscope? Why would you (or rather, an FO that has a track record of getting good players) throw money at someone who’s had two bad seasons? Remember, TD found Foxworth, Grimes, Owens, DeCoud, Moore (who I think will be good) and Brian Williams. What do those have in common? They’re all DBs and they all played admirably when called upon for our team.
Our coach is a defensive coach, so you know he had a say in this decision as well. I for one believe we made a good move here. It might be a bit expensive, but I think it will be worth it. We are/have been a solid #1 corner away from having a nasty secondary. I trust that when we pick Weatherspoon at 19 (I refuse to acknowledge anyone else) that TD will have the pass rush he wants in place for the upcoming season.
Fear not, fellow Falcons fans. Any FA move requires a bit of risk, but our FO is diligent enough to make sure that silly little mistakes don’t bite us in the rear end.
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by Zippo729 on Mar 5, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I am right with you on this
I think the Falcons have shown in the past few years that we are not stupid when it comes to building our team. We have plenty of young potential on our CB squad, but still need to beef up the position for the short term. This frees us up in the draft to focus on areas where we are truly lacking in long-term potential: specifically the pass rush. As for character and performance issues, I don’t think anyone with the Falcons organization is oblivious to the factors that give some fans cause for concern with Robinson; they’ve earned enough goodwill with me at this point that when I see a move like this I say, okay, TD and Co. must know something I don’t. Even if Robinson continues to underperform, though, I think this is probably a smart move just for bringing depth to a developing position and making it easier for us to get more aggressive up front.
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by iRonin on Mar 6, 2010 4:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
from a texans fan
im going to tell you guys that dunta robinson is no shut down corner. he would be lucky to be a nickel imo. expect him to get beat deep a lot and get lots of PI calls.
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I love all these Houstan fans with heavy hearts.
Their expectations weren’t met so they continually keep saying this is a terrible pickup. You guys haven’t seen terrible pass defense until you see ours from last year.
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Not heavy.
Who’s gonna give you the truth about a player: The media or the fans who watch all season?
While I don’t think he’s as terrible as my fellow fans do (I wrote a piece defending that he was an average NFL corner and not garbage), I don’t think he’s a true #1 (at best: a solid who can cover a possession WR if he works on his technique to make up for that lost step….which would improve your 28th ranked pass defense; at worst: toast especially against anyone with speed).
Either way, you guys didn’t make the worst FA signing of the day. That’s the Giants with their horrible overpayment of Antrel “I make more money than Ed Reed even though I’m not fit to carry his jock strap” Rolle.
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TexansDC is officially Dunta’s greatest defender on BRB (and not exactly a rousing defense). There were many, like me, who didn’t want him as more than a dime last year. He was that bad in 2008, and he was worse in 2009.
The only reason my heart might be considered heavy is because he was a helluva warrior 2007 and before. After? It’s been a 180 degree change.
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Not even close, Grayson. And, remember, I’m FROM ATL. And I am a Falcons fan. So why would I BS you about something like this?
Look, I hope I’m wrong. But this is going to end badly. Fans are going to turn on him FAST.
There could be more good that bad Dave
I just got finished reading some of the archives of 2008 leading to Matt Ryan being drafted. So many of the bloggers (not as many as we exist now) including Dave himself were not on board with Ryan (and I kinda was too, simply not sure if he was worth it). A reason for that is his numbers performance did not stand out, much like the numbers and performances of Dunta Robinson.
So of course in our eyes the fans, we aren’t going to see too much good in Robinson, but as others say, this regime of the Falcons seems to know what they are doing and can see something we can’t (or haven’t learn to) see yet: Intangibles.
Yes I said Intangibles. Somehow they know that through all of his downsides or unimpressiveness there is still talent, and there is always room for improvement, such as a change of scenery like when Abraham came from the Jets, Randy Moss from the Raiders, Braylon Edwards from the Browns, and perhaps change or scheme that might fit Robinson’s skill set.
Regardless we know he’s good for at least 4 INT a season, maybe plays well against the run and can cover well enough in rotation. He seems to have good hands and instinct to pick off a pass, and when he does, he has devin hester like return moves in a highlight I saw.
How do you know he's good enough for at least 4 INTs a season...
…when he’s had 2 or fewer INTs in 5 of his 6 seasons?
just judging by math of all of his seasons on average.
give him enough playing time and on a good season without injury any corner like our Grimes could make 4 INTS
okay well if that wasn't good enough for you
I’d say two or three. Regardless my posting wasn’t just about his INTs, just his overall play. If in his rookie season he amassed six INT and 87 tackles, surely he could come close to that or better again. It could have been a lot of reasons why his results slacked in Houston. When you don’t like your job you can start slacking, and I think the regime will try to straighten that out like Randy Moss was tamed in New England. The Talent is there, and I’m not going to disagree with you totally, maybe he isn’t spectacular, but any player has a chance to shine in a new environment. I’m just saying INT-wise he could do 4 in a season or more if he’s used right and plays to his potential
The problem there
is you’re comparing him to his rookie season. He wasn’t disgruntled before last year’s contract discussions, so how would you explain his numbers declining?
Also, you’re forgetting to factor in a crucial part of Dunta’s career: he tore the hamstring off the bone and completely tore his knee. I firmly believe that he never adjusted his game to this change in his body. He missed training camp the year following that injury and missed it again with contract discussions. That’s a lot of missed time to realize that something’s not right. I do believe if he’ll salvage his skills it will come in training camp.
I do wish you guys well with him. Just don’t think he automatically fixes a secondary. He needs to work and he needs to be pushed. He’s got the talent to be a capable starter, but the man is going to have to work.
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Everyone is doing good here.,,,
It’s not easy to say nice things about someone as your swinging your leg and you have your foot firmly planted in his posterior as he walks out the door.
That being said, let’s be honest. Atlanta just signed Dunta Robinson to a contract that makes him what, the 2nd highest paid CB in the NFL??? No one in Houston thinks that you made a good deal. Maybe we are too close to the situation to think 100% clear on this. But, the net impact to the Texans is one that we have all prepared ourselves for already. I think we are mostly aghast with the enormity of the contract more than anything else.
As Texans fans, and that is with few exceptions, we are happy for Atlanta if this move helps your team. But, prepare yourselves. Dunta will have to play like he has never played before to justify that contract. In the end, I feel the Texans management was right not to keep Dunta at the price he wanted. The Texans have young and improving options at that position. Time will tell if Atlanta feels the same way about their end of the deal. Texans fans are doubting it.
I suppose if all of the stars, moons and planets align it could be possible, but what are the chances of that?
I was reading those too.
I noticed how mean everybody was. Couldn’t have been more wrong about Matty Snowballs. I personally expected this move. It was the least financially burdensom choice that would free up our draft options which is where TD likes shopping anyway. Killed two birds with one stone. Got a corner and saved a pick. Build through the draft and supplement through FA. This is the philosophy of the ever fabled 3 time champion Patriot FO. Anybody noticed the personel drop off of the Pats since Comrade left. I’m just saying. We are being set up to be a contender for a long time. I know we want it all and we want it now. Well that doesn’t work boys just ask Redskins. You may say “what about the Bears, they got Peppers, Taylor and that diva QB”, yeah so maybe they have a good year but they won’t have a good five or six years. They have squandered their birthright for a lowsy bowl of shite stew. Not me boys this current regime has impressed me. I am a Falcon because of the values this organization is demonstrating as a team of individuals with a common goal. Not just a few high powered divas strutting around like peacocks. That was indicative of the Vick era. I’m glad it’s over. We are on our way up.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 6, 2010 2:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, I was totally against Ryan
Vehemently. I believed we had to build out from the lines. Goes to show you why Dimitroff is making money and I’m…well, I’m writing a blog.
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Not that I believe
that the Birds needed the best Corner in F/A (supposedly) , I do think that they needed a better Corner in the lineup . All I’ve heard is how the Birds needed a better corner , but everyone seems to want one that hasn’t been in the trenches . The only thing I see wrong w/ this acquisition is that they may be paying too much – for too long . I just hope that the FO has saved some currency for a proven DT/DE , then they can build some depth for the OL thru the draft (also LB).
Actually,
Having watched the Houston FO for a while, we’re probably better off that the Texans don’t want him ;-)
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by iRonin on Mar 6, 2010 4:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions
You're back!
I know you’re reasonable. Tell these people Dunta is the worst thing that has ever happened to us.
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Lol I’d have preferred Bodden, but c’est la vie. Dimitroff is supposed to know corners and he hasn’t really missed on them at our spots IIRC.
I just don’t know enough about Robinson. He may be bad, but I still think our DBs have been unfairly criticized. I’m with Smith, Im happy with our guys. I like Robinson to handle taller folks but none of it means squat if QBs have 10 seconds in the pocket to pass.
No amount of Revis or whoever can cover indefinitely.
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by iRonin on Mar 6, 2010 11:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I feel ya
The Dunta signing wouldn’t bother if people weren’t convinced he’s so much better than Houston. I love Houston, and I think he gets a really bad rap actually, especially given the fact that his coverage numbers are far better than those of Owens/Grimes/Williams.
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I agree
I like Houston too.
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by iRonin on Mar 7, 2010 10:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Franky
Dunta’s pre-injury numbers were much better than anything Houston has ever put up here. I’m just worried (like some of the Texans fans that commented here seemed to say) that he won’t be able to get it back. His 2008 & 2009 numbers were about the same (or worse) than Houston, but his pre-injury numbers were outstanding. Wasn’t sure if you knew that (PFF wasn’t around then). Serious $$ committed to the chance that he can get back there…
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oh no ...
I know he kicked arse and took names back in the day, it’s just this notion that he’s some kind of savior (given his clear decline) that freaks me out.
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Dunta is a great run stopper and good leader in the clubhouse
His problem is the horrific injury he suffered and then sitting out training camp. He has not gotten back to pre injury form and because of the severity of the injury most Texans fans dont think he will ever get back. He might have had a better season last year if he didnt hold out and started getting in shape when he should have. He didnt play hard when he was in a contract year and doesnt seem like the type of personality to play hard when he is gettin big dough.
Dimitroff might recognize Dunta’s instincts and history, but he might be taking a chance that Dunta can fully recover. If D-Rob trains hard in the summer and training camp, he should have a better year but you should still expect him to get burned a few times and commit a good amount of penalties in coverage.
In case you dont know what the injury was, I cant find an article on it but he tore his ACL, PCL, and ripped his hamstring completely off the bone. Thats not a common injury and many people cant fully recover from a torn ACL, let alone a torn ACL, PCL and hamstring.
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by TexasHoosier on Mar 9, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
I say Dunta will flourish in Atlanta
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
hope so
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i hope so too
at least that’s one area we no longer gotta us draft choices to fill
$57 MILLION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And Six Years for a guy that hasn’t had an intereception since 2008. Not to mention that questionable ACL injury!
I sure hope TD knows what he is doing!
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