The 2010 Atlanta Falcons Free Agency Kickoff
by Dave Choate on Mar 5, 2010 2:36 PM EST
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PrintThe first uncapped free agency period begins in less than ten minutes, and as you might expect, the rumors are flying like falcons with jetpacks.
This will be your all-purpose discussion thread for free agency, and I'll obviously update this or create separate posts if the Falcons do spear a helpless free agent overnight and through the day Friday. Those will all be on the front end of this post. So if the rumors of Dunta Robinson come true, you'll find it here (hopefully) first.
In the meantime, discuss amongst yourselves.
4:12 p.m. UPDATE: NFL.com's Steve Wyche, whose report kicked off all the Dunta Robinson rumors, now says it may be until the end of the weekend before the cornerback is signed. Also, he's supposedly signing a multi-year deal. Given that numbers and circumstance don't support this signing, I have to believe Dimitroff & Co. see something I don't here. Gotta trust the Comrade.
2:33 p.m. UPDATE: Sports Illustrated's Don Banks
says that the Falcons are "locked in" on Dunta Robinson, who wants to return home to Atlanta. We can only hope that since we're the only team he's been linked with, the Athens native is going to take a little bit less to come home. Banks speculates that if they sign Dunta, the Falcons will draft either OLB Sean Weatherspoon or DE Brandon Graham, making me extremely delighted.
11:42 a.m. UPDATE: AJC reports that Chris Redman has been inked to a two year deal (no surprise there) and says talks with Dunta Robinson are on hold for now. Also, a list of unrestricted free agents. We have to sign Joe Zelenka, with Mike Schneck retiring.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 8:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 8:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't be retarded people
The falcons need safty’s and cornerbacks. As for Brain Westbrook he is all washed up. Don’t waste your time with him. He’ll play in preseason the skip the entire season with injurys.
they should sign TO though Imagine him as a Falcon they need a good receiver to throw off some attention from rody white and the run. Then they would win the super bowl.
by falconfan4eve on Mar 5, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
Hi Texans fan here.
i feel sorry for you falcon fans you guys over paid for a nickle corner at best i should know i saw all of the games and well he sucked playing against No.1 WR dont believe me ask anyone on battleredblog.
living the Texas dream
Awesome
But why does J Michael Moore link to ESPN for the story? Can’t he get the info straight from the source?
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Who is the must have free agent?
If there is one guy I would really like to pick up in free agency, I finally decided it would be Aaron Kampman. I do not like the crop of DEs in this year’s draft. I think Weatherspoon should be our pick. This is supposed to be the deepest draft in years for corners. Plus, we already have a lot of young depth already so picking up a guy in the third round, if at all, wouldn’t be a bad option. I hope TD is working hard on bringing in Kampman or some other pass rusher to help bolster the line.
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Mar 4, 2010 11:57 PM EST reply actions
I'm not really feeling OLB for 1st round,
especially since we run 4-3, and I think there are at least a couple DE’s in this draft with potential.
by Da Pharaoh on Mar 5, 2010 5:47 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Is there an option?
Is there a solid 4/3 DE that could possibly slide to us?
And BTW did we ever tender Grimes?
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 9:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Are we sure Grimes is a RFA? I’ve seen conflicting reports. But no, I haven’t seen any news of a tender on him…
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Brent Grimes won’t be a news item. He’s not a restricted free agent, although some sites have included him on the RFA lists. Grimes is an “Exclusive Rights Free Agent”, which really isn’t a free agent at all. Teams can simply renew the contracts of ERFAs. There’s no tender involved, and the player has no choice but accept it or retire. Other teams can’t even talk to ERFAs unless the current teams decide to let them go. If you see ERFAs included on a list of potential free agents, ignore them. The only significance is that those guys will become RFAs next year.
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If the Rams are smart
they’ll pick up Jake and draft Suh with their first pick.
Jake won’t beat you with his arm but I bet he’s still got some football left in him. He did take the Panthers to the Super Bowl.
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You know what they say?
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose you can also pick off Delhome from the nose bleeds while drinking beer with your friends.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 8:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I laughed out loud. Rec'd
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
There goes the advantage
So the Panties are tired of spotting opponents 3 possessions?
Free Agency
Will determine which direction the Falcons go in the draft. If they can shore up the secondary (the more likely option) they will go for a pass rusher. If they find a book end for John Abraham, look for a cornerback in the first round.
I'll put you through hell, but at the end of it all we'll be champions.
But is there a pass rusher you think is worthy of that first round pick?
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by sportsfan4life2012 on Mar 5, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Looks like Peppers
Is going to Chicago, and Chester Taylor too.
Interesting, the Bears must be busting out the check book.
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Now I'm hearing the Falcons are interested in Karlos Dansby
….But why?
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I don't know...
I’ve kind of got my heart set on Weatherspoon….
by orion12 on Mar 5, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's where I expect him to go
But considering the Falcons have had their best success by molding young linebackers, it seems weird that they’d be interested in someone so prohibitively expensive outside.
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by Dave Choate on Mar 5, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Here you go. Little late, my bad.
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I Like The Move
and if we get him, that helps the secondary which puts us in prime positioning to go pass rush DE in the draft. I’m hoping for Brandon Graham, that guy is a BEAST!!!
WEATHERSPOON is a LOCK
Falcons love him and Weatherspoon has verbally expressed that he wants to go to Atlanta.
Uh this is weird!!
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 8:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Charles Grant
The Saints released DE Charles Grant yesterday. Does anyone think TD will take a look at him and try and sign to replace the bust in Jamaal Anderson?
Nope.
As far as I know, he still faces the possibility of a 4 game suspension for Starcaps. I’m pissed that the Saints never had to deal with that (along with Will Smith).
And Deuce McAllister, too
Not only Starcaps, but he also likes to get into and/or cause trouble. This is the case where he faces charges of involuntary manslaughter (he was indicted but hasn’t gone to trial yet), because of the death of a pregnant woman (this the same incident when he got stabbed in the neck).
Oh, and when he’s on the field, he’s just as much of a stiff as JA98.
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I think DT will explore all possible options. But right now I think you gotta get Dunta signed, you sign him then you can look at a DE in the draft. Also Dansby would not be a bad pick up.
by ramsjigga on Mar 5, 2010 8:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Kyle Van Den Bosch
New poster here.
If the Falcons are reluctant to sign Charles Grant from New Orleans, they need to look at KVB from Tennessee. If they can get Grant or KVB to replace Jamaal Anderson, they need to immediately draft Brandon Spikes from Florida.
We are going to use ALL our draft picks on Mardy Gilyard.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
KVB is off the board, signed by the Lions
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would LOOOOOOOVE to get Dunta Robinson
this one has me salivating. a guy like Robinson would give us exactly what we need to have a complete secondary – the #1 guy in his prime (Robinson), the veteran who still has some game left (Williams), the young guy who is getting better every year (Grimes), and the rookie who showed a ton of upside (Owens). that’s a complete secondary you can feel good about for years to come.
more importantly, it would be amazing to go into the draft and not have to address the secondary. given the various needs this team has, i think we all knew that one or more of them would have to be addressed in the free agency so we could concentrate on the others in the draft, and i love handling the secondary in free agency instead of the draft. CB just seems like such a risky position to place your hopes on in the draft.
also, I don’t want to see the Falcons repeat what they did a few years ago when they used pick after pick, year after year, on the same position (wide receiver at the time)… we threw a couple of picks at the secondary last year, so let’s move on and start addressing other needs through the draft (DE, LB, OL, backup RB, another WR)
by cheshire falcon on Mar 5, 2010 10:25 AM EST reply actions
KVB has signed with the lowly
Kittens from Detroit. He is a high effort guy and a good mentor to have on your team. If he gets double digits sacks ever again ill be surprised.
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Makes sense – Schwartz was his DC in Tennessee.
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Strange but I predict a winning season for the Lions.
Making all the right decisions.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 6, 2010 12:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought this was DONE DEAL
Heard he confirmed he is going to the Falcons this morning on Talk Radio.
Update on the front page
Negotiations temporarily put on hold with Robinson, Redman inked to a two year deal.
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Robinson put on hold
You know its because he wants more money
I was hoping it was an ice cream break
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They took him to the Varsity
Dave, if you ever go down to Atlanta, you must eat there. One of the coolest places anywhere, easily.
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When, not if, I head to Atlanta
I’ll meet as many of you as possible there.
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mmmm the Varsity
Greasy chili dogs and onion rings w/ a orange sherbert drink.
The Vortex is also a kick ass place to eat and drink.
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-Marcus Ginyard, G - UNC
A goal of mines
I want to head to a game this year, so I will make sure to head to the Varsity and try eat with one of the new owners Warrick Dunn :D
Instant coronary.
That’s what you’ll have. I must say the frosted orange invokes childhood memories of flinstone push-ups.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 2:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thank god.
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Isn't this why a change of scenery would be good for him?
Obviously they don’t represent all Texans fans, but all three of those were hatin on him (and us, and we know who’s the better team. har har har)
Obviously he wanted to be paid and is probably a me-first kind of guy, but would you really want to play for fans who say stuff like that? Just saying.
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Well, we say stuff like that about DeAngelo Hall.
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To be fair, he totally deserved it
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That's what I'm saying. Maybe Dunta does too.
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Oh, I know
I just don’t want a day to go by where I don’t declare that DeAngelo Hall deserved everything we gave him.
What were we talking about again?
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Dunta does too
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
I don’t think you understand just how much good faith Dunta Robinson managed to squander. He was very arguably the most popular Texans player. He then reportedly was offered(and there was never a denial) 23 million guaranteed, coming off a horrendous injury. Then bitched and moaned through the offseason, didn’t show up till a week before the season with PAY ME RICK on his shoes(Rick is our GM). After the game? He basically admitted he wasn’t trying. He then put up an absolutely horrible season this year.
I don’t hate Dunta, but but he wrote his own ticket out of town. You have to hope that he was simply not trying last year, otherwise he will never earn the cash you are laying down for him.
And come on, you don’t think I could find 3 Atlanta Fans saying stuff like that on Twitter? Its the same with EVERY team.
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by nolander on Mar 5, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
sooo
What you are saying is that he is anotehr Me’Angelo Hall? Interesting. Let’s skip on him then.
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I can’t speak for Hall, but Dunta has always in the best come off as a great guy and was also the heart of our defense. I think the money just messed with his head, and his injury made him lose a step or two.
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Dunta
He’s a world-class douche, and an even worse cornerback.
I like the Falcons and all, but y’all are getting fleeced on this deal.
Best of luck.
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Thanks!
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Honestly
what is so wrong with those tweets? He isn’t a shutdown corner anymore by far. If the posts were “F*** Dunta” I would get your point.
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If any body can get his best out of him Smitty can. Atitude reflects leadership or something like that. Can you blame the dude he just wants to get paid. If he can play just pay the man. We really need an ABOVE average corner so we can focus on pass rush. Who called him a shutdown corner anyway?
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 2:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You might be surprised to see how many media outlets have been lauding Dunta as a great CB, as if he didn’t have any attitude issues last year, or didn’t have his leg torn off and reattached a couple years ago. Heck every game, the announcers would talk about how great Dunta was despite a season that was obviously subpar to anyone who did some research or watched the games.
Rudimentary creatures of flesh and blood, you touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding.
we need another Christ Houston? Because that is exactly what he is (by the numbers) ...
We need a no. 1 and he’s not it. If he’ll sign for far less than 8 mill/year and we still go draft a CB in the first round, then I’ll be happy.
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Wrong, and Wrong
Robinsons allowed only one team to approach 100 yds last year on him. 98… from the Bengals bc a 50 yarder was broken. The other highest total? 61. Heck even Reggie Wayne was held in check. Houston allowed at least that while only playing 55% of the games. Cmon…at least put some effort into it.
Robinson is a fine corner. He may not be Revis, but Revis clones aren’t but one place in the NFL , and last I checked he isn’t available.
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You really should probably look into the PI penalties Dunta got, or the amount of safety help he required to do those things. He was good for almost one PI a game, where he would get beat so bad he had no choice but to commit PI or give up a long TD.
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If you're gonna look at it that way
Dunta allowed games of 98, 61, 58, 58, 46, 45, 37, and on down…
Chris Houston allowed 135 (NYG), 76 (1st CAR game), then 42, 41, 38, 38, 37, 37, etc.
Also, Dunta had 8 penalties (1 declined). Houston had 6 penalties (2 declined), in 12 games.
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Cmon…at least put some effort into it.
I’m not just talking out of my tushi, his ‘09 coverage and run defense values were almost identical to Houston’s.
And I’m not saying he’s not a fine corner. He is fine, just like Chris Houston is fine, but he’s NOT a no. 1.
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Alternatives?
I think everyone will admit that our secondary corps need some substantial help going into next season – so aside from potentially getting the best available corner in free agency – what else do some of you want the Falcons to do?
- We could take a corner with our first pick but there is no guarantee that that player would pan out or be able to contribute his first year.
- Or we could send several picks and maybe a few players in a trade to get a young #1 corner but any respectable GM would make us pay out the nose if they were willing to deal such a player at all.
Again, I’m not saying that Daunta is the 100% guaranteed solution to all of our secondary concerns, but signing him is simply the best solution I can see if we want to contend next season. I understand skepticism, but shouldn’t we be happy that our Owner/GM/Coach are willing to go out and get the best free agents to fill areas of need (ala Micheal Turner) instead of hording money and letting us languish in mediocrity?
TD doesn't roll like that ...
He knows we need a no. 1 corner, and he knows Dunta is Houston v. 2.0. There are never guaranteed solutions, but Dunta was craptastic last year, yet he still quiets those who were tearing apart Houston all year, proclaiming our need for a no. 1 corner?! Makes no sense to me man.
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Our perminant secondary solution is...
PASS RUSH. I’m not so worried about this guy we will be fine with or without him as long as we address our primary weakness. Those stats don’t lie.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh absolutely
… but 5 weeks into the season when folks are lamenting but our lack of a no. corner …
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no. 1
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Agree... and disagree
He may be the best CB freely available (or Bodden), but is he worth $8-9 Million per year? I say not even close…
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if he gets a 5 year for 8 mill per with over 20 guaranteed
you guys got hosed BIG TIME
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Let's not assume we will overpay just yet
TD is from the Patriot-school of NFL negotiations and he hasn’t signed a bad deal for us yet. I trust he can hold his own on the other side of a negotiation table.
Also, I agree that Daunta isn’t the ideal option for us – he’s just the best and most realistic I can see. Guys like Champ Bailey and Nnamdi Ashomgua simply don’t hit the market at a young age. Every free agent a team lets go will have some sort of issue explaining why their original team didn’t try and keep them.
Daunta is simply the best of what is available, and I’ll take that over nothing any day.
Check up top
Falcons are the only team Dunta’s negotiating with, apparently, and he really wants to be there. Might take a bit of a discount to do so.
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first off im a far weather fan of the falcons as dunn was my fav player for quite some time, and before we got the texans i was on the falcon bandwagon…..
with this said….
i wouldnt get over excited about dunta. he is a GREAT guy, ive met him several times before.
he is coming off a HORRENDOUS injury which he tore his ACL, MCL, every other CL, and tore the hamstring OFF the bone.
he is still young, but ive seen comments on here that he is a true #1 and in his prime. NOT TRUE.
he would be better as a # 2 IMHO, and him going against drew brees twice a year….OUCH.
if the money is ridiculous i think this will be a bad signing. you can all disagree, but even before his injury he was average.
he was the best CB on the texans, but then again pac man would be the best CB on the texans…
have yall ever even heard of reeves or bennett or quin. not much competiton.
booden is better in my eyes.
the one thing you WILL get is one of the best CBs in the nfl against the run, and he will lay a big hit once a game.
in coverage though, i think you will be dissappointed in how much of a liability he can be, and he gets beat deep FAR TOO OFTEN.
i was glad to see him go.
good luck next year and beat those F-ING saints!
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
Really looking forward to the Dunta era!
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/in denial
I keed! I keed!
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Just a note,
But you say Brees twice a year is bad. Didn’t he play against Peyton twice a year?
I'll say this much about Dunta vs. Peyton
Houston runs a cover-2 shell. That means a TE on the seam is almost always open. Hence, Dallas Clark abused us in games.
I don’t follow the Saints closely, but the Saints seem to favor those athletic WRs of theirs. That would leave Dunta open to being picked on.
I do think Dunta can be effective if he puts the work in. He never really adjusted to playing with technique or playing more physically after his injury. He always seemed to rely on athleticism that wasn’t there anymore. With work and camps….he may be able to be effective (not great, but effective). Could he help a weak secondary? Yeah, but he’s not worth big money (a lot of you seem to gather that).
I agree with that.
I have a lot of faith in TD, and I’m sure he won’t just throw a large amount of money at this guy. There has been a lot of homework done by these guys, and I think he will help. Not a #1, but I don’t see any #1s available, and noone in the draft worth considering past Haden, Kyle Wilson, etc., most likely gone by our pick. I also agree in narrowing down our needs in the draft, so as to allow for any pick that isnt one of our necessities, but we can pass up (McCluster, Gilyard, etc.)
Help
Dunta will also have much more help in the secondary in DeCoud than he ever had in Houston. When you are an island out there, your numbers will do crazy things.
One could argue that Dunta was the only guy in ya’lls secondary thats NFL caliber.
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Pollard? Eugene Wilson(for the 3/4 of a season he is healthy)? Reeves(when he is playing man he is great, never ever let the man play zone)? Glover Quin was great as a rookie. Please do research before you start spouting off such nonsense.
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according to another Texan fan higher in the thread...
the guys you mentioned aren’t that great. maybe he’s wrong, i’m not sure. but if none of us have ever heard of them and there is even conflict in your own fan base about how good they are, that certainly makes me question how solid the rest of the Houston secondary is.
having said that, the Texans secondary can’t be any worse than the Falcons, so take comfort in that!
by cheshire falcon on Mar 5, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
wait a sec here
what i said was as a true #1, there wasnt a guy like that on the texans. our secondary was good against the run, but so-so against the pass.
we have alot of YOUNG guys who can grow, but at this moment they werent as good as dunta, because of the experience factor.
if you ask me to rank our corners last year, i would say
reeves > quin > dunta.
and i mentioned STRICTLY CBs, not including “ill knock the piss out of you” pollard and eugene “voit” wilson.
ONLY TALKING CORNER.
bodden is a better cover guy and has better size
dunta is smaller but good against the run.
he wont be a baby until the falcons have to franchise him if they want him after the contract is up.
if he get anymore than 4 years at 6 per with 14 guaranteed, i think you WILL NOT be happy with the results.
but
@cheshire falcon
with the state of both the falcons and texans secondary, the addition of a dunta or a bodden TREMENDOUSLY helps that position. BIG TIME.
but dunta at 12 mill for one year….no thanks.
and im one of the few that thinks fellow gamecock freddie got fingered bennett is going to bounce back and play like his rookie year.
but what the hell do i know, i wanted the texans to go after meangelo hall so take that for what its worth
"Its like a silk bag filled with puppy ears"
No one ever put him out on an island.
He’s not that kind of cornerback.
And what help would he get from a pass defense that was 28th that he didn’t get from the 18th ranked pass defense?
Write me back when..
You take a look at our ranking in November. Our primary weakness was pass rush. I assure that will be addressed in the draft as well as our DT Jerry coming back.
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by Ball Hawk on Mar 5, 2010 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dunta was the 4th best CB on our roster
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I stated this in another thread, but...
I don’t think that we need Dunta to be a #1 shutdown corner (there are hardly any of those guys out there anyways)… i think what we need is someone who is very capable and reliable, and at least an upgrade who gets our secondary stable enough so that we don’t have to spend draft picks on it.
Now if Dunta is just gonna be the 2nd coming of Chris Houston, then no, i don’t want him either. But I think there are good reasons to think that’s not the case.
I don’t wanna get in arguments with Houston fans about him – i haven’t watched the guy play hardly at all and i’m just going off of what the pundits are saying. I just think when you look at the Falcons options to address the secondary, signing Robinson makes WAY more sense than the other options available to us right now.
This is true.
I still am one of the few Houston fans who thinks Dunta has something to offer (not at the price he’s demanding, but that’s football). However, he really needs to adjust his game. He never did that post-injury. A great secondary coach may be able to help him.
I think the Falcons would still be best served to add some draft talent (it’s a good draft class), but Dunta can at least help. Plus, that means Bodden is still up for grabs :D
agreed...
i’m not against adding draft talent, i just feel like that’s always such a huge risk in a position where we need to add stability very quickly. the Falcons spent a couple of picks on CB’s last year, as they should have… i just don’t want to see us keep throwing picks at a single position year after year and “hoping” something sticks.
by cheshire falcon on Mar 5, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I feel ya
But where did Champ and Nate come from in the first place? The first round of the NFL draft, that’s where. Now go get us a shutdown corner TD!
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true, but...
given our draft position, it’s a way higher risk. if we were in the top 10, maybe it’d be different. i don’t know for sure, but weren’t those guys pretty much sure things taken really high in the first round?
by cheshire falcon on Mar 5, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah the 19/20 slot
just seems a bit out of position for cornerback (both the Falcons and Texans need). There’s at least a good amount of 1st round pass rush talent for you guys to get so Brees isn’t so comfortable.
True!
The Falcons don’t need a shutdown corner. They need a solid, opportunistic secondary that will take advantage of mistakes caused by a disruptive front seven…so Brees isn’t so comfortable.
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The so called experts called him a good corner, not a great corner. I hope we don’t pay him “shutdown” corner money! If the price is right, I personally would rather have Bodden…
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DUNTA who?
For a guy coming off a horrible ACL injury and didn’t get one pick in 16 games last year, he sure is coveted. And coming from a team with one of the worst secondarys. Sounds like a joke.
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Has anyone heard about the falcons going after
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I am losing that loving feeling.....
I hate when that happens…. Are we doing the right thing?
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no
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unless we draft a CB in the first round
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no risk - no reward
No Free Agent or draft pick is a guaranteed success. I trust TD and Smith to properly evaluate and reasonably compensate any talent they acquire.
Hearing...
The Meangelo Hall comparisons scare me!!!
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it should scare you
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What's the difference between Chris Houston and Dunta Robinson?
One’s FROM Houston.
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OK … that was funny
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all these amateur talent scouts on here :)
i understand the concern, but we have every reason to think TD knows exactly what he’s doing. there may be other reasons beyond just “Dunta is good”… he may have his eye on someone in the draft at another position but he knows he can’t get that person AND address the secondary the way he wants in the draft, so he’s handling it this way. there is a bigger picture here that most of us can afford not to look at, but TD can’t… he has to look at the whole team.
and some of you guys are talking like Robinson is some scrub who has never done anything. that’s hardly the case. no matter what you think of him – #1 corner or not, shutdown guy or not – it’s pretty tough to argue that he isn’t an upgrade for our secondary.
He's def an upgrade in coverage (not so much against the run - based on his '09 numbers) ... but wasn't significantly better than Jackson/Houston in coverage
Bottom line: if you’re one of the folks who was lamenting about how bad Houston was last year (and I wasn’t one of those folks), then expect to be disappointed if you think he’ll be any better than Houston in coverage
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Yes, but probably a (very) expensive (minor) upgrade. One thing that puts me a bit at ease, though is the fact that Dimitroff has a proven track record of picking out quality Cornerbacks (though that was mostly from draft picks).
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Pat Yasinskas over at ESPN says he's 95% sure Dunta's coming our way.
He says that in his hour long chat on his blog and he also reinforces it here
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/8684/update-on-robinson-and-falcons
like it or not, Dunta’s gonna be a Bird, gentlemen.
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Great!
He doesn’t need to be a shut down corner. Just need him to fit the system. This opens up the door to really address our most glaring needs: Getting younger talented players along the front seven.
Getting a DE and atleast 2 LB’s will be massively important out of this draft to keep depth and add youth to our aging front guys.
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