Brandon Graham Could Be A First Round Pick For Falcons
The Falcoholic will periodically be looking at potential first round picks for the Atlanta Falcons in the 2010 NFL Draft. Today, Michigan defensive end Brandon Graham.
I don't think there's too many Falcons fans who wouldn't be satisfied with Brandon Graham as our first round pick.
You have to try very hard to find someone who is willing to say bad things about Graham. He's a capable pass rusher, a willing run-stopper and an intelligent, hard-working defensive end in general. Everyone likes him, and yet he's not ranked as the top defensive end in the draft by almost anyone.
Why? I'll tell you why.
Graham is not a stunning athlete. He's not Jamaal Anderson or Jason Pierre-Paul. He doesn't have tantalizing speed, etc. etc. Or so draft experts, their hearts fluttering with thoughts of athleticism, would tell you. Even Scott Wright of Draft Countdown, one of the experts I trust most, has him pegged as not a great athlete. Okay then.
But then you look at his Combine stats. He ran a 4.69 40 yard-dash, just behind Pierre-Paul's 4.64. He posted 31 reps, showing his strength. Thomas Dimitroff has proved time and time again that he will look at a guy who scouts have deemed a "midget" or "stubby armed" or "fatty fat mcfatterson" and see whether the guy can actually play the game of football, which Graham clearly can. He was extremely productive in his four year career at Michigan, where he piled up more than 120 tackles and almost 30 sacks. He's a safe pick, but he's also a smart pick.
So now that we've dispelled that, what are his actual weaknesses? Well, for one, some scouts seem to think he'll have to change to outside linebacker in the NFL. So he can take over for Mike Peterson in a year? Score! But if that doesn't alarm you, there's concerns (Wright is one of those who mentions this) that he can't generate that sudden burst of speed and power that allows a defensive end or linebacker to get from Point A to Point Eating A Quarterback's Face. That would be a legitimate concern, because we are pretty obviously drafting a guy like Graham to be a factor as a pass rusher.
In the end, though, he's the most obvious pick for the Falcons if they're inclined to look at defensive end. He'll probably be there at 19, he's been an extremely productive football player all his life, and his athleticism and strength seem to be criminally underrated. He could step in immediately and provide a boost as a starting defensive end, and he might never look back once he gets that position. The worst case scenario for Graham is that he doesn't fit particularly well at end and has to move to outside linebacker, but no matter where he plays I believe he'll be at minimum a solid pro. That sounds like the kind of guy Thomas Dimitroff and Mike Smith would like to have around.
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no DE in 1st
According to Ledbetter, the Falcons will not be taking a DE in the first round. Could very well be a smoke screen by he Falcons, but who knows? Seems to open the door for a LB, or possibly trading back a few spots, picking up a second round pick and taking a lower rakned CB, or perhaps an OT
Looks like I made good picks!!
prior to the senior bowl there was a community drafts on our sister site www.mockingthedraft.com, I represented the Falcons and I traded away our first round (#19) pick. Fellow mockers thought I was crazy after trading down twice, but I got Brandon Graham at #50 and then Patrick Robinson at # 62. Remember, we currently dont have a second round pick. Recently Dave has profiled BOTH players as potential picks for our #19 pick.
by durst on Mar 2, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for this
I always heard his name thrown out there, but I never knew why no one had him going in the first round. As much as I hate Michigan, I would love it if the Falcons got someone who could be a dependable pass rusher.
I know all the experts are calling this draft deep, but it seems a little thin to me at the two positions we need the most.
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by phoenix falcoholic on Mar 2, 2010 10:34 AM EST reply actions
My thoughts are
that Pittsburgh will take him at 18 and line him up as an OLB. If he’s there it will be hard to pass him up. We would have to use him as an OLB imo. At 6’1 he may be shorter than the prototypical DE and coaches may want someone that could in addition disrupt the passing lane. A QB would have to throw awfully low for him to get a hand on it.
So my point is I think he’s a great player but he’s a tweener and they’re usually best in 3-4 situations.
First round, build the trenches
While Cornerback might be our most glaring need, physically talented players can be taught to become great cornerbacks. In the first round, i’d much rather we take a Lineman simply because a quality lineman can make an impact from the beginning and take much of the workload off the secondary. Though, admittedly, if Joe Haden if available, i’d love to see him in a falcons uniform.
Don't believe it
but maybe with his awful combine showing he could slip to us
The Jordan Schafer Fan Club.
Aren't there
DE’s ranked higher then him that would be available at 19?
Not really
There’s Derrick Morgan, but I think he’s only arguably more highly rated. Jason Pierre-Paul will likely be gone. Carlos Dunlap has all those motivation and off-the-field concerns. Pretty much everyone else available has a lingering issue that would drop them below Graham.
If he’s there at 19 and we’re thinking DE, he’s the guy.
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Words that always scare me:
“off the field concerns”. We dont need a punk or a jerk or anything like that. Not only are they disruptive off the field, they can damage team integrity as well as bring discredit to the fan base.
I'm all for giving guys another chance, of course
But if there are players I believe are equally as talented with none of those concerns, I go with those guys every time.
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by Dave Choate on Mar 2, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly
Thats exactly what I am saying. Even if a guy without the issues is slightly less talented I would go for the guy without the issues. Also included would be how long ago those issues were. If they are still going on, there is a problem. If they were from HS or even Fresh/Soph year in college without any problems since than, than that is a good thing. A guy that is having issues now can be attributed to youthful indescrection (who hasnt had those moments?) but imagine if now he has million$…how much more trouble could he get into?
Dunlap
Just days before Florida’s showdown with Alabama in the SEC Championship game, Gators junior defensive end Carlos Dunlap was arrested early this morning and booked in Alachua County jail on a DUI charge.
From the USA Today story.
Add to that all the scouts calling him “lazy” on the field, and that adds up to a big NO.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Dunlap is the opposite of Graham
Dunlap has all the speed, and is tall and lean, but lacks motivation while Graham has the non stop motor, but is 4-5 inches shorter , much shorter arms…..
Remember how Andre Smith completely blew it at last years combine!!
everyone bumped him to the second round…….then he got drafted 6th overall.
Dunlap wont be there at 19, not even close.
CBS/NFL Draft Scout
Has Carlos Dunlap as the #14 prospect (no thanks), Everson Griffen #17 (I might could be talked into him, but he seems very boom/bust), and Jason Pierre-Paul #25 (who is shooting up Mock Drafts). These are the pre-combine ranks. Derrick Morgan is #7 there, by the way (I’m assuming there’s no way he drops that far).
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I would love this
Graham is probably my #1 favorite guy that will (probably) actually be available at #19. And yes, he’s short for the position, but he is definitely a DE in the 4-3 (or he could make the switch to 3-4 OLB). He was 6’1", 268 lbs at the combine (Dwight Freeney is listed as 6’1", 268 lbs). Our OLB’s are 238 lbs (Peterson) and 232 lbs (Nicholas). Abe, Kroy, and Sid are all 260-270 pounds. He’s not a “tweener”, he’s just a bit short.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
I think we continue to develop El Sid as a situational pass rusher
And if he develops, awesome. Biermann can rotate in heavily at both end spots to spell Abraham and ensure we don’t grind down Graham, because he’s got a ridiculous amount of energy and can be effective anywhere we ask him to play. I think of him as a 1A option.
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Sorry....
I meant if he develops into a full-time player, great. Ideally in that scenario, we’d have Biermann or Sid starting on one end within two years, Graham on the other and either Biermann or Sid as a situational pass rusher and supersub.
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While we're talking DEs
Is there any word about what we’re doing with Jamaal Anderson? I know last season was sorta his make or break year, and he clearly didn’t make it. I heard a lot of commentators saying he might get released at the end of the season. Does anyone see us doing that?
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by phoenix falcoholic on Mar 2, 2010 12:32 PM EST reply actions
He's still playing on a relatively cheap rookie contract
If the team thinks he can provide some value against the run at DT and DE, he’s probably worth keeping around at least one more season.
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OK, I have not seen anywhere in writing that a team is limited to a single selection when they are on the clock. Therefore, to avoid argument, I feel the Falcons should just turn in all these names really quick and take all of them at 19 :
RB CJ Spiller
CB Joe Haden
OLB Sean Weatherspoon
WR Dez Bryant
DE Derrick Morgan
OT Russel Okung
Problems solved!
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I imagine Al Davis would bite Dimitroff's neck at that point
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What Happened?
What happened to Chauncey Davis?
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Uhhh
I’m thinking he’s the first to go if we draft a DE first. He couldn’t overtake JA98 as the starter and he had his shot. If I remember correctly, he signed a two year contract with most of his money in the first year.
In this scenario, Chauncey's a backup
A damn good one, too.
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so out of
Biermann, Sidbury, Abraham, JA98, Davis, and Graham which do you get rid of? Before you answer, remember that Davis couldn’t beat out JA98 in a starting role.
I see it shaking out like this:
Abe and Graham start. Biermann plays super sub at both end spots, L-Sid sticks around as a project. Chauncey is there for depth. You keep JA98 one more year as depth at both end and tackle, and then you either can his ass or you dump Chauncey. Really depends on how they both play in 2010.
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A bit off topic, but Haden looked less than stellar at the combine.
CBs who stood out included:
Kyle Wilson with 25 reps
Chris Cook with a 11 ft broad jump
Brandon Ghee with a 4.45 40 yard dash
3 other good CB options after Joe Haden
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I read somewhere
last month that CB is actually one of the deepest positions in this years draft. So that’s why I’;m not pressing for CB as first pick. Either DE or OLB
The thing that worries me about taking a DE in the first round:
it seems like we’ve already spent a lot of recent draft picks on the defensive line. And I’m all for youth, but I would almost rather them a) get a veteran or b) wait until we can get a DE who will truly be a gamechanger. Not that I don’t like Graham, I feel like he would be very solid. He just doesn’t leap out at me, and that’s something I would like to have in a first round pick: the ability to make a difference. I don’t want our d-line to be abraham, babs, jerry, and then graham/beirman/sidbury. Seems like a crowd.
Graham has the right mentality,
And I think that TD and Smith definitely value that, as well they should. I would be completely fine with Graham at 19, simply because there is so much depth at CB. I like Chris Cook a lot actually. I am a Hokie, but the kid played well every time I watched him.
since you are a hokie, what do you think of Worilds in the 3rd Vs Graham in the 1st?
1. do you think Worilds will be there in the 3rd? I do
2. with similar body types and skill sets, Graham has enjoyed better stats, but on a much poorer defense than Worilds who unlike Graham is skipping his Sr year.
To be honest,
I agree that Worilds will be there in the 3rd. I think he will be there into the 4th to be honest. I don’t really understand why Worilds left early. I don’t see him making much of an impact in the NFL. He may be a project guy, but I like to think we can get someone that can impact our pass rush this year.
could be wrong
but i think i read somewhere he hurt himself at the combine, graham a mean, could’ve been just a hamstring pull but i do think he did something
He tweaked the ol' hammy
Nothing serious.
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He may slide to us.
Rule #1: Double tap.
by Ball Hawk on Mar 2, 2010 8:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If teams are stupid enough to let Joe Haden slide to us, we have to take him
He’d be an immediate impact cornerback for us.
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My theory is Joe ran slow to drop to the Falcons
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
I love that theory
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If we were to draft Graham
As you said he’s not that well known in the draft prospect. So I think he’ll still be there after 19. Therefore, if we get Graham we should trade down and get a second pick.
I saw him on youtube
yes he would be an impressive pick. He split the gaps and turn the corner fiercely, and doesn’t dance around or overshoot his targets.
If it is true that not a lot of teams would focus on him, maybe we could trade down and still get him while getting a second pick.
i saw him on youtube
He splits the gap and turns the corner fiercely. Doesn’t dance around nor overshoots his targets, very impressive.
If it’s true that not many teams know of him, maybe we can trade down, still get him and get another pick.
I like Weatherspoon
but I think Pittsburgh does too and they are drafting one spot ahead of the Falcons. I hope we can get him though. Then pick up a Corner in the Third.

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