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Falcons-Eagles Recap: Things Fall Apart

There are stretches where we lead charmed lives. You get the promotion, you marry the girl of your dreams, you find the house you've always wanted. Or maybe you score a free pizza, win your online Madden franchise and your buddy buys you beer.

Those stretches have to end. It's part of the human condition. We deal with loss, misfortune and pain. If you haven't experienced that, you live an insulated life.

It's odd, then, that we have so much trouble dealing with the Falcons' meltdown. For the past three weeks, this team has squeaked out last second wins, muddled through first halves and generally looked like a team destined for something less than its 4-1 record. As much as anybody, I wanted to believe the Falcons had the drive and the talent to close out games, and that their struggles would correct themselves.

Like all those charmed stretches, this one had to end.

The Falcons were terrible Sunday. The 31-17 final score doesn't begin to tell the story of how the Falcons played, confronted with a tough Eagles team that applied constant pressure and played an extremely aggressive brand of football. Confronted with that, the conservative Falcons crumbled. If you saw this game and thought the Eagles weren't the better football team, your capacity for self-delusion is pretty nifty.

There are no easy fixes. It's impossible to say how long Dunta Robinson might miss after his hit on DeSean Jackson, and it's hard to know if the NFL will react and suspend him, despite what is in my mind a clear lack of intent to cause injury. The offensive line and Mike Mularkey aren't magically getting better. Confronted with a big-play offense that dared to strike downfield often, Brian Van Gorder and the defense could come up with no answers. The entire team is culpable, and everyone must improve before the Falcons take on the Bengals next weekend.

As grim as that sounds, the Falcons only have one or two more teams on their schedule who offer the Eagles' mix of punishing defense and dynamic offense. They're still 4-2, on top of the heap in the NFC South and our next game against the decent Bengals are followed by a bye week. We don't have to talk about turning things around, because the Falcons have already seen success this season.

This is a miserable blip on the radar screen of excellence. One hopes, anyway.

Join me after the jump and we'll stick our hands in the fire.

Star-divide

HIGHLIGHTS

  • The run defense continues to be a standout. If you had told me before the game that LeSean McCoy would've averaged just a hair over three yards a carry and his backup, Eldra Buckley, would've averaged under four, I would've bet on the Falcons. That would have been a mistake.

    Still, this defense is showing me a lot. The Falcons have an active front seven and they do a fantastic job of limiting opposing grounds games. That should serve them well against Cedric Benson next week.
  • Big Michael Jenkins returned and hauled in five passes for 99 yards. It was not a spectacular performance, but it could have been: Matt Ryan and Jenkins failed to connect on six other throws, largely because Ryan had nanoseconds to get off his passes. Encouraging performance, though, and a sign that he'll be asked to shoulder some of the burden in the passing game.
  • Curtis Lofton is my hero. The Police put up 14 tackles, 11 of them solo, and tipped the pass that William Moore intercepted. He also got hurt near the end of the game, but it looked like it was relatively minor. The Falcons need him.
  • William Moore had a dumb penalty late in the game, but that was a nice pick. Despite not starting the entire year, he leads the team in interceptions with three. I'm anticipating a monster year when all's said and done.
  • Peria Jerry finally made an impact, notching the team's only sack of the game. Kudos, Peria!
  • From here, the individual achievements need quantifying. Roddy White had six catches for 83 yards, but unfortunately most of that came later as the game was unraveling before our eyes. It was still a nice performance.

    Considering he was under more pressure than Captain Nemo, Ryan deserves props for putting up even reasonably decent numbers yesterday. He had some bad throws and I'm not willing to excuse those entirely, but the guy barely had time to snap sometimes before Trent Cole was punching him in the throat.

    Tony Gonzalez is a red zone weapon, even if he didn't do much else. Nobody screws with Gonzo in the end zone.
  • This isn't a highlight, per se, but I've limited myself with this format. Don't excoriate Brian Van Gorder for this one—at least not for things he doesn't deserve. The Falcons generated no pass rush against a merely decent line, and clearly he should've adjusted in-game. For those that think he was magically going to stop Jeremy Maclin (a rising star in the NFL, in my opinion), DeSean Jackson, Jason Avant and Brent Celek by waving his Scheme Wand of +10 Stopping, you need to recognize how talented the Eagles offense is.

    It didn't get any easier for BVG once the Falcons lost Dunta. I love me some Chris Owens, but he and everyone else were being toasted. We thankfully do not have to face a passing attack of the Eagles' caliber every week, but I did think they put in a game effort. The D just wasn't good enough to stop them.

    BVG and the Falcons defense will get back on track. Bank on it.

LOWLIGHTS

  • Going to touch on the Dunta Robinson hit on DeSean Jackson first. I don't for one second believe there was malicious intent on the part of Robinson. If you watch the hit a few times, you can draw your own conclusions, but it looks to me like Dunta picked a very bad time and way to brace for impact. I'm sure the NFL and many others will debate the angle Robinson took there, and the penalty will be debated, but if it's not malicious that's not what concerns me. What concerns me is the aftermath, which was horrific for both teams.

    DeSean Jackson has a severe concussion and some memory loss, and that's awful. My thoughts go out to Jackson and Eagles fans, who are understandably angry but should probably stop wishing harm on Dunta because A) he's already hurt and B) that's more than a little cruel. I'll be anxiously awaiting news on his condition, because he looked like he got his bell rung pretty badly.

    On the football end of things, the Falcons will miss Dunta a lot if he has to sit out games, which is likely. Expect to see a lot of Chris Owens.
  • God, the offensive line is excruciating. The Falcons won't have to face Trent Cole every week, but they utterly failed to protect Ryan throughout the game. He was sacked three times and harried on seemingly every other pass. The protection has to improve, and the Falcons need to take a more active role in preserving their franchise quarterback's health, not to mention avoiding the kinds of fumbles that result from him getting trucked over by a giant lineman. Have Jenkins throw a couple blocks if the team believes he's so good at it, for Christ's sake.

    The run blocking didn't seem much better. Michael Turner once again turned (!) in an uninspiring performance, but he was nailed in the backfield a couple of times, which certainly didn't help.
  • Speaking of Turner, it's become apparent to me that we're probably never going to see the same back that ran roughshod over the league in 2008. Whether he's a step slower, a little less decisive or just aging at three times the rate of normal humans, Turner's not getting it done. It's time to start working Jason Snelling (three carries, 17 yards) into the rotation more.
  • Matt Bryant missed a field goal. Isolated incident, hopefully, but a disappointing one.
  • What a crappy game from Michael Koenen, who was obviously struggling with the wind at times. His usually strong leg faltered on numerous occasions in this one, leaving the Eagles with good field position. I don't have to tell you how that turned out.
  • The matchups were bad, but the secondary got eaten alive. The Thomas DeCoud of last year is mysteriously absent, replaced by a body double with the soul of Bruce Pickens. And yes, I'm aware they play(ed) different positions.
  • I blame the entire team, from Mike Smith down to Shann Schillinger, for their pathetic showings in first halves this season. It should not take Smith dropping F-bombs and stacking furniture with the team to make them realize that hey, they're a professional football team and they need to show up for work. I'm truly baffled as to why this team can't seem to extract its collective head from its collective ass before they head to the locker room for the first time.
  • At a fundamental level, this game confirmed everything we knew about the 2010 Falcons. They're a team with poor pass protection, an inconsistent running game and a penchant for allowing big plays on defense.

    It's foolish to pretend these problems don't exist. Dismissing critics of the team out of hand when they deserve criticism is expressing blind faith while your car drives down an embankment. The Falcons need to spend the Bengals game and the bye week figuring them out.

    At the same time, people who act like the season is over are beyond foolish. I know I've said that at least once in this post alone, but let's get a damn grip. This team will win at least one more game, I promise.

THE WRAPUP

Game MVP: Curtis Lofton. This week's MVP award is an ice pack, which I'm sure The Police will appreciate.

Game Theme Song: I don't have a specific song for this game, but if you need to relax and think about something else, why not listen to one of the greatest hip hop tracks of all time?

One Thing To Take Away: Balance in all things, grasshopper. Don't panic and don't be a Pollyanna.

Next Week: Grab your machete and head to Cincy Jungle. It's time to play the Cincinnati Bengals.

Final Word: Shaz.

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Great Post!

I’m always amazed at how you are able to nail all the fundamental points that need to be made. Your analysis was head on… Thanks for all you do, Dave…
Greatly appreciate you, my friend!

by Gjmoody on Oct 18, 2010 8:29 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I don't understand why people defend MM and BVG so strongly

Abe not getting to the QB anyway is a justification to drop him into pass coverage? He had limited practice all week because of his back. He should have been inactive and start someone else that could have put up a better rush against King Dunlap. That is what the coordinator does, well that is what he is supposed to do. BVG failed miserably to adjust during the game in any facet of the D. How many DL stunts were ran in order to help JA55 and go after the Eagles O line? I don’t recall seeing any. I don’t think BVG knows what a stunt is. When JA55 dropped back into zone coverage did a LB take his place during the rush? I don’t think so for the most part. Peters, a DT, was dropped back into zone coverage and DT’s aren’t typically as fast and agile as DE’s.

The great defensive plays before the Philly game were against marginal offenses with NO being the only exception and without Bush they loose offensive options.

I have no complaints about our drafts and players. My issues are with the OC and DC not making adjustments, ever, during a game, for the past three years. How many times have the Falcons been down to 10 – 14 points at half time, adjusted in the locker room and won the game? I would guess not so many. Not to sound like a broken record but one the coaches jobs is to develop schemes that protect players weaknesses and maximize their strengths. That is not happening with ATL and that is evident in the fact that the teams issues last year are still there today.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I know I asked this question before

but does Coach Smith ever take a stance to what the OC or DC is doing? He has to rip somebody a new one starting with the OC, then special teams and then the DC. We’ve got 1 yard to go for a touchdown on 1st and goal and we try a pass? What?!?! This is the kind of crap that shouldn’t happen. My expectations for this offense is not being met at all. Are these coaches scared to hurt somebody’s feelings or something? If their not getting it done sit them and put in somebody else.

by Fear Me on Oct 18, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

no one talks about keith armstrong. It’s always MM and BVG

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would argue that blaming BVG is the wrong approach

We underestimated these Eagles coming into this game, whether you believe they’re one-dimensional or not. Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson are one of the best young WR tandems in the NFL today, and Donovan McNabb would’ve killed to have them functioning like this when he was still an Iggle.

Fact is, they just failed to defend yesterday. BVG could have made more adjustments, but this was a highly functioning offense and the D was gassed by the third quarter. Considering how improved this defense has been all year—and yes, I recognize the offensive acumen of some of the teams we’ve played—I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I can’t defend Mularkey. As others have pointed out, this is an offense that is overly conservative and predictable, and there’s no need of that. Unless we’re severely misjudging the talent level of all our starters, being more aggressive and mixing in deep strikes and sweeps would help.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You'd have to think...

With the way the first quarter was going, Van Gorder was clutching at straws. I also remember last year (or maybe the year before) Jamaal Anderson dropping into coverage and making a huge play. One thing’s for sure. When it fails, it fails noticeably.

In a way, Van Gorder is the opposite of Mularkey. Van Gorder took some risks and got burned, whereas Mularkey takes none and gets slow roasted.

by Hawes on Oct 18, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

Well said. The Eagles are pretty good, and give them credit. They are well coached, and they normally don’t beat themselves. Kolb is good, and will get better. We simply got smoked big time on Sunday. As for Mularkey, he’s like the OC for the Chargers, boring and predictable, but we just have to grin and bear it. We’ll be fine, you could be a Chargers or Cowboys fan now..

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd, Jason

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by orang3b on Oct 18, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately I do notice when our DE's drop into coverage

Beerman did it against the Browns, thought Hillis was gonna block him, Hillis runs by him, touchdown. Zone blitzes just go very badly for us. We call em, get no pressure,our guys crashing into each other…and with us they take forever to develop. We had em pinned!!! We call it , Abe drops back, Corey Peters chugs on over to the LT and is easily dealt with, long completion. Lofton covering Maclin on the first completion of the game is something else that bothered me. The second fastest if not fastest eagle on the team covered by a LB. Tomfoolery ensues.

by aces666high on Oct 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have a losing culture here.

I remember when the Falcons came to town.I was eleven or twelve then.I was excited.Then for the next forty years give or take a few we lost.We lost big and we lost small.We came close a couple of times.Yesterday to me and to a lot of us was supposed to be the day that changed.We have waited patiently for the last three years and we have seen a hell of a change.Still instead of coming into a game with the deep set feeling inside that we will win I came out of yesterdays game with the feeling that every game for the rest of the season we might lose.Are we better than we have ever been why hell yeah.It just looks to me we have built the team on a bed of sand.Thats right the offensive line is sand.They really suck.There I said it they really suck.I want to be positive here.At the end will we make the playoffs yes.Will I have that inner confidence no.Will I have to suffer every Sunday for the rest of the season with a higher than normal blood pressure and sweaty palms yes. So Go you hairy Falcons

by JT131 on Oct 18, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

If ATL had lost the game by seven or ten points late in the game, or by a last second touch down I would have been proud and excited. That would have shown progress from last year and the arse whipping the Eagles gave the team in ATL. Right now it’s hard to be excited after the way the team lost.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree completely

I had to DVR the game, which is all sorts of horrible. But after witnessing the 1st QTR of that game, I was all about the Fastforward button, it was truly excruciating to watch.

YIKES!

by Falcons1133 on Oct 18, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was pretty excruciating, bro!

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

mwalex...

Again, another downer from Mr. Sunshine. Give it time man, how long you been a fan? It seems to me that you are never satisfied even if it’s a good thing. I suppose when the Falcons win the Super bowl, you’ll find something wrong in that. How about we move on from Sunday? Huh? I saw the game as well, and I’m not an idiot, I know what needs to be done out there.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be thankful this is a civil board after your little intro.

I have been a Falcon fan since 1980 how about you there key board commando.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not really, it just makes for conversation.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can say,

That I am a key board commando :-)

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not do this

We’re all Falcon fans. There’s no need to take chea pshots.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

cheap shots, damnit

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let me say something here, Dave

I’m not taking cheap shots, Dave. for everyone’s info, I’ve been a Falcons fan since 1970, probably longer than most of these folks, including yourself probably, have been around. I KNOW what is going on here, and I am not an idiot, just tired of the negativity when something goes wrong. Let’s try to get positives out of this for once and let the folks that Arthur Blank hired do their jobs. I don’t like it either when these folks don’t do what we think they should be doing. Maybe it’s me, I don’t know, but dont ever accuse me of taking cheap shots at anyone, I’m just trying to let mwalex know that there is someone that does read his comments here, and trying to “stir the pot” so to speak. I’m a regular contributor to this site, and will stop contributing if I can’t “stir the pot” once in a while. I think folks like yourself take football a little too seriously at times, when there are other things in this world that are more important to me, like raising a family for one. If you don’t want me to post anymore, I won’t. Sometimes I’m not sure who and who isn’t “true” fans here.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Of course I want you to post

One of the limits of this format is that I either have to respond directly or comment generally, and I chose to reply to your comment because I didn’t think it would make sense sandwiched at the bottom here.

Let me clarify what I’m getting at here, keeping in mind that this is intended for everyone who reads and comments here. I’m sick to death of reading the “true fan” comments from those on both the negative and positive sides of the aisle here. I’m not going to enforce it—check out some of our other SBN blogs if you want to see people banned for speaking their minds—but I would really appreciate it if we didn’t question each other’s fandom every time something goes wrong. I feel like we can substantially disagree without that.

And as to your point about taking the Falcons seriously…sure, I do. I always have, and over the last four years it’s become my second job, so that certainly has made me more serious than I used to be. But I respect your point.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Dave for the rebuttal. I take the Falcons seriously as well, but, they are second fiddle to the real world. Sorry if I have rubbed you or anybody else the wrong way. This stuff probably wouldn’t of been posted if the Falcons won, it’s funny what we people say when we lose…

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And to add on to that

I value what you contribute to the site. The opponent histories are a popular read every week, and you add a lot to the discussion.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will keep posting

Because I enjoy it, and love sharing my Falcons knowledge with folks like yourself, and others on this site. I do plan on doing posts on particular Falcon seasons in the future. I think what has upset me most, was the lack of concern (except for you and some others) about the health of our players after yesterday’s game. Dunta, and others who played and got banged up are important to the Falcons success. And, also Desean Jackson of the Eagles, (don’t care who he plays for). May he have a speedy recovery. This is coming from someone who cares about a total stranger’s well being :-)

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like chea pshots better

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you want to go back to

2007? Better enjoy what we have here, these are good times, understand all the frustration, but I’d rather be going through this at this point than 2007, and a few other years that I can think of.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree too

I was hoping for a win, but prepared for a loss that would have been by one score or no more than 10 points, and either our offense or defense shining
But none of these occurred.
Consider this game like the 2009 Chargers preseason game, indicative of the rest of the season.

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

The offensive line is just terrible. For at least 3 of them to be playing for a new contract, they really show poorly week in and week out.

by Fear Me on Oct 18, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t especially enjoy pointing fingers, but I agree. Our OLine is in desperate need of work. The Falcons have invested picks in projects up and down the OLine, but I firmly believe it will take a major overhaul. I say this as someone that was very excited when the Falcons moved up for Baker. Like it was said a bit ago, the team is still growing. I can’t say that I believed we were a Super Bowl contender to start the season but I think we’re well on our way to getting there.

by Caviarhound on Oct 18, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems like Sam Baker is losing confidence by the week

One of those Trent Cole sacks wasn’t his fault, but he’s just lost in pass protection. I had really hoped the Falcons could concentrate on wide receiver, tight end and other playmakers in the draft next season, but they may need to hit left tackle.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would have to agree that Baker’s confidence level is zero at this point.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oakland Fire Sale

Everyone on their roster is available. Is Mario Henderson really an upgrade?

by Hawes on Oct 18, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you've got valid points

I think this goes back to the Atlanta fanbase being a mix of people who have suffered through this team being perennially disappointing and those who are brand new and expect winning ways. Sometimes, we’re going to have awful games. We’re going to have a lot of them with this line.

But as you said, we’ve still got to be a favorite for the playoffs in the wide-open NFC.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's nice..

To be in this position. There’s alot of football left, and anything can happen. We as Falcons fans need to temper our excitement. Yes, this OL is pretty scary, we’ll just have to work with it!

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since we're all Falcons fans

let’s not BS each other. Our team is still up and coming but we’re not there yet. Meaning we still have a lot to work on. We all knew that at some point we would have to rely on the offense to keep us in games and this was the one. We knew, and the coaches should have known, how explosive the Eagles offense is. We looked so unprepared. How many times have we seen that end-around play over the years and we didn’t do anything to stop it? The only people on the offense I was proud of was White and Jenkins. They came to play. The worst and mean the worst player on the squad has got to be Baker. Look for teams to continue to load that side with pass rushers.

by Fear Me on Oct 18, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I just read Abe's interview

We were un prepared for what they did is about what he said.I’m getting used to the O being bad but the defense was bad for a while no for a long while and now we know we got punked by Andy Reid.

by JT131 on Oct 18, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He said they were unprepared because the Eagles did stuff they'd never done before.

That bit of context makes a huge difference here.

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by Jason Kirk on Oct 18, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You hear that Mularkey and BVG?

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Said

The defense had a rough go of it yesterday but at some point the offense has to reliably generate some points and stop settling for field goals and yesterday was a textbook example. One less missed FG, one less pick in the redzone (following the Moore INT) and we are battling for a win in the 4th instead of playing out the string.

Lots to work on there and no easy solutions. O-line has to give Ryan more time. Ryan has to stand tall in the pocket and step into his throws instead of backpedaling/tap-dancing. Send out a search party to unearth the Turner of 2008. The fact is we have the weapons (i think) to be a top 5 NFL offense when all is said in done if we could just put it all together.

And the NFL would be ridiculous for suspending Dunta for that hit. My prayers go out to DeSean Jackson and his family but there was clearly no malicious intent on that play and to me the replay shows him planting the helmet in his chest, NOT a helmet-to-helmet. Too much subjectivity in the new “defenseless player” rule for my taste.

Oh – gotta shout out the best part of the entire post.

by waving his Scheme Wand of +10 Stopping

That made my morning. Can we make this a regular feature of the recaps?

by gametheory7 on Oct 18, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Play calling again

Completely uninspired. I sat on my couch and predicted the right play Mularkey would run about 70% of the time based on down and distance and formation. Maybe thats why the line looked so bad

by zooker on Oct 18, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

AGREED!!!!!!

Even my 9 yr old is getting to where he can predict the next play!! If he can do it, just imagine what veteran defensive players know about our schemes then!!

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by ATLsince1972 on Oct 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The Dunta Hit" was all types of awesome/awful

awesome in the respect that he actually went through it. Awful in the outcome. Completely caught off guard with that hit. it’s like watching a car crash. Except ones a Semi coming in full speed and the other is a Ford Pinto coming out of a driveway.

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by JoshChildressAfroIsCure4Cancer on Oct 18, 2010 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, I have to repeat that it is Football...

10 years ago that would have been a great play by Dunta Robinson. Now they call it “dirty”. Like the announcer said, its hard to stop plays like that in football, it happens because it IS football.

I didn’t really see any helmet to helmet contact, it seemed to be the shoulder of Jackson that was the primary impact point, he may have gotten a piece of the facemask at most. It was just 2 guys going full speed in oppposite directions colliding that made it look malicious. Honestly, it seemed like a good clean hit.

I hope Jackson is ok, but I really can’t blame Robinson for the hit.

by Falcons1133 on Oct 18, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is an article out right now that said hits like that didnt start coming around all that often until recently

Because The tacklers were wrapping up and throwing down instead of trying to become a battering ram. If I can find it ill post a link.

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see both sides

Guys are just bigger, stronger and faster than they used to be so collisions have gotten more violent. Also with the way the rules are these days, a defensive back only has a few options to break up plays anymore. Come in fast and separate the receiver from the ball or, if they have position, break up the pass. He can’t impede the receiver down field so the receiver is moving faster which adds to the violence. Change the rules to give the defense a fighting chance and let them chuck guys down field and this might stop some of these type hits.

Still, no matter what you do guys will get hurt. A Rutgers player was paralyzed on a kickoff this week. I haven’t seen the play and don’t want to. That sort of thing takes the fun out of the game

by zooker on Oct 19, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO BIG PLAYS!

The thing that worries me most is there has been no big plays by Matt Ryan really all season. It always seems to be small chunks of yardage at a time.

Some of it has to be taken by the O-Line which seems to collapse too easy. But we seem to be far to conservative when it comes to going downfield.

Agreed that Snelling needs btw 5-10 touches a game.

by Falcons1133 on Oct 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

what worries me

is the inability of our coordinators (Mularkey to a greater extent) to adjust playcalling as the game goes on. sometimes things go differently than planned, but we kept doing the same stuff over and over again.

the D adjusted a little bit, or the Eagles took the foot off the gas, otherwise it could get really ugly with us giving up 600 yards and 50 points – certainly, it looked like that midway through the 2nd quarter.

but there were some momentum changes , like that INT, and the offense was predictable again. Turner runs for 2 yards a piece on 1st and 2nd down, than Ryan saving his life and trying to complete a pass for a 1st down. in most cases predictable, and broken up.

and anytime we were in a hurry up mode, like at the end of the half, we started making plays, and the Eagles started making mistakes. and then again, we fall back into conservatism, and lose the momentum.

I said it in another thread and say it again – in 2008 we led the league in 1st quarter scoring, and we actually scored on most of our opening drives. this year it’s the opposite – we win the coin toss, have a 3 and out, and the opposing offense has a short field to punch it in. never mind poor special teams play to set it up. So why don’t we defer and get a chance to start the second half? last year I remember we lost a kicker and a punter and went for it on 4th down, against the grain, and it proved to be a better option than punting it or kicking. so why not defer and play defense?

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Good points, all

Let me ask you this: If Mike Mularkey suddenly started doing creative, exotic things and they failed, how would all of you feel about him as a coordinator?

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would give him credit for making the changes

and then look to see if the changes made sense and that the personel are a fit for those changes. Once again it’s the coaches job to set up schemes that fit the personel. Essentially MM is saying that our offense can only do three and out for the most part. Is that reality, now way.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

we can blame our O-line, and some other components of Offense, but it’s the coordinators job to run the plays that are the best for this personnel

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would just confirm

that he cannot think of anything that works. If he stays conservative and things aren’t clicking and then he does some exotic things (as he’s done in the past) and it doesn’t work then he needs to go. Why do you think Pittsburgh fans were trying to warn us when we hired the guy?

by Fear Me on Oct 18, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see where you're getting

Most of this stuff is emotional, I understand. And if we do lose because Mularkey went nuts and does only exotic stuff, we’ll be the ones to blame him again.

So in reality what I’m calling for is not necessarily exotic stuff – you have to mix some conservative plays with high risk-high reward plays. as long as he does that, he will avoid being predictable. Sure, the coaching staff should have the balls to run those plays that can turn the game around (or kill you), but the NO game has clearly shown that Smitty has the courage needed for that.

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

OVER & OVER

We have all been talking about the same thing since last year. MM needs to go, regardless if they win every game from here on out. He is hindering MR growth, in my opinion. No adjustments, no nothing. I didn’t see the game as I am overseas, however, it is soooo easy to picture how it went, at least on offense. Runs up the middle on 1st and 2nd and MR running around trying to gain 8 yards for 1st down…right?
I hold MS responsible, as this is a trend, not a one time thing and it is not getting any better.

by svene on Oct 18, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

if you haven't watched it yourself

you can’t imagine the misery. I’m overseas myself, and after the game was over just after midnight, I couldn’t sleep.
I guess the only other time I as a fan experienced this misery was the game against Philly in Atlanta last year. at first, that praised defense falls apart giving up like 15 yards per play, and we are suddenly 3 TDs down. and just when the D regrouped somehow and managed to hold (or the Philly kicker missed one of the 3 FGs), we have a three and out.

and hey, there was a moment (just when we scored our first TD and then stopped them in the first drive to start the second half) I thought we might really be a team like 2009 Saints that somehow escaped 3 TD deficits to win the first 13 games. and then Ryan gets picked and the D falls apart again.

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great point!

We are not a elite team but a Play off contender. We might not be best team in NFC but we are not worst either because of one ugly loss.

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by Vishnu_falcon on Oct 18, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really view it as one crappy game?

Because it’s not. A single great play by White/Dahl turned the SF game around. If the player that intercepted Ryan at the end of the game has just fallen on the ball the game would have been over. An amazing play by KB sealed the game against Cleveland. Without that play the outcome might have been different.

The difference in the outcome of the three last games is the Philly had a very good offense and the other two teams don’t.

One shinning spot was Ryan’s passion at the end of the game. I hope that carries over to the rest of the team for the remainder of the season.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's one crappy game from the Defense

The Offense is the unit that’s been consistently struggling. There are plenty of areas to improve, but we are still one of the best teams in the NFC. I’m probably higher on Kolb and the Eagles than most here – I think they’re one of the best in the NFC, too (not just when they play us).

(as long as we don’t have to go on the road to Pennsylvania in the playoffs, we’ll be OK)

Only If we continue to struggle against weak teams will I change my thinking… And I don’t think Cincy is anything special.

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by orang3b on Oct 18, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

One crappy game yes but

it was against the most complete offense we’ve played so far this year. ATL’s D has played well against marginal offenses and that is it. NO without Bush is a different offense.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said by Mr. Sunshine!

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cincy is as unpredictable as Atlanta

one day they destroy Baltimore, and another day they give up two scores at the end of regulation and lose to the Bucs.

they have some serious pass rush, and they have playmakers – and those are the ingridients for yet another disaster, unless we learn from our mistakes.

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Cincy intrigues me.

But I believe Odom is out for PEDs, so they are down at least one athletic pass rusher.

by CubFan90 on Oct 18, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bengals,

Also lost to the Browns. Carson Palmer is not himself for some reason. They definetly have some tools, and will bring it on Sunday. I expect them to.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last three Falcons games that really impressed you:

List them.

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by Jason Kirk on Oct 18, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK

The New Orleans game this year.

The Jets game last year with a winning season on the line.

The second New Orleans game last year, where we nearly beat the impending Super Bowl champs with Redman at QB.

by Hawes on Oct 18, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would you rather have

A team like the Falcons that finds a way to win games even if they are close to being a loss.

Or a team like the ’Boys who fold like a mofo.

Id say if you have fought out of 3 or 4 ugly games to come out on top its quite an accomplishment.
I understand wanting to be able to beat everyone convincingly but Id be optimistic even using those games. That make any sense?

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Makes perfect sense to me.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

seems like the whole team has this feeling when its Sunday. and every game, except for the AZ game, we start slow, and then speed up. the difference this time was that Philly didn’t let us back into the game.

you’re right, one game does not a season make, and from this perspective this should be lesson #2 (#1 being the Steelers game) that homefully humbles this team and turns things around for us.

the only doubt I have is whether we can learn from those lessons or not. maybe the word doubt is a strong word, because in the end I believe we should be fine, but you just never know with our offense and the man behind it.

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Point

Tom Slick, I agree. This should make them a better team in the long run. Who knows? We may see them again in the postseason…

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so

But I would also like to see it carry over into the subsequent games.

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand your point in general

but that’s not what most of us are talking about
It’s not just this game, (although in many ways it is the icing on the cake)
But look at the way we lost the game, and the other issues from the previous games we were lucky to win.
That’s our season made right there. Unless changes are made (for the better)…our season is already made 6/16 games through.

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an Ugly Game! It's easy for us to be Arm Chair Coach and Arm Chair OC/DC .

It was ugly game and there were more Low lights than High lights. I am sure the Falcons players and coaching staff aren’t throwing the towel yet for the season because of this loss. I am not sure if our OC sucks so bad or if its Mike Smith’s Philosophy of Power Running Offense. If its later I hop Mike Smith to Make changes that and gives the keys to Matt ryan to Drive freely..Why cant the falcons throw a Deep ball and take chances, worst thing which might happen is an interception which might be better than Koenen Punting at the moement.

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by Vishnu_falcon on Oct 18, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

i know the perfect title for a song that could describe this massacre yesterday

i am not sure who sings it the song is called ’ instruments of destruction ’ from the 1986 animated film tranformers the movie that song to me would best describe the performance and how the eagles easily ripped apart our defense you hit the nail on the head everything you pointed out that the falcons have problems with showed its ugly head in yesterdays game this is the third straight year that the eagles have had their way with atlanta my advice would be can they stop scheduling the eagles for 5 or 10 years but seriously i just think the eagles are one of those teams that the falcons don’t match up well against every team in the nfl has a few of those teams they don’t match up well against unless your name is manning and the colts.they should just put this lose behind them and move on

by falconpower on Oct 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

UNINSPIRED

That’s the best word for how we looked yesterday. The Falcons just did not seem to be trying to win. In general I think the offense has enough talent to make Mularkey’s conservative schemes work most of the time, but his refusal to get more aggressive when the “safe” plays aren’t getting it might be the team’s most glaring weakness.

That said, 4-2 is a good record and I don’t think we actually suck. I’d be surprised if we saw the Falcons look this inept again this season. Good teams have been manhandled before, but a good team would bounce back next week against Cincy. Let’s see how the Falcons respond to this loss before we reach for the panic button.

by ArthurDank on Oct 18, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

We'll see when Baltimore comes to town

That will be the Falcons toughest game to date, possibly all year.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really want to see that game?

I’m telling you now that we better get the o-line “fixed” because the Ravens will be ready. Defensively I think we will be okay only because they’ve been pretty consistent. I think yesterday was a wake-up call. There is no reason to think that MM will change anything now if he hasn’t in the previous 2 seasons.

by Fear Me on Oct 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you Fear Me on your post..

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a suggestion for the Ravens game.

Punt on 1st down, send HD83 to down it since the Ravens will be shocked… we can sneak Koenen out hiding behind Garret Reynolds. Pray our Defense can score in INT’s and Fumbles. Keep our Offense and Mularky FAR from the Ravens as long as the ball is on our half of the field.

Of course, yesterday’s Falcons looked like the Falcons of old – the ones who you’d pick your Fantasy QB based on.

by Mnemonic on Oct 18, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured you would throw the Ravens in here. They couldn’t even hold a ten point lead in the fourth quarter on Sunday. I thought they had a “vaunted” defense. Let’s concentrate on the Bengals first before we even think about those carrion feeders from Baltimore…

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The above post is for mwalex, who always brightens up my day….

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thoughts

we’ve had similar performance against the niners and browns – but we got away simply because we could beat those teams even with a foot off the gas pedal. not this time around.

good teams do rebound, and learn from mistakes, so I would love to consider this loss a lesson for the whole team. but here’s a word of caution about Cincy – they’re coming off a bye (I think the only game against such team this year), and they also have something to prove after that meltdown against the Bucs last week.

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by Gemini-RU on Oct 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The Bengals should put up a good fight, but they’re still a team that, on paper, it seems like we should beat at home. If we’re good, we’ll come out looking like the NFC champs people were saying we could be before this last game. If we’re just okay, we’ll find a way to let it slip. I think the Falcons sack up and make a statement.

by ArthurDank on Oct 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. We’ll be fine.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ArthurDank,

My wife agrees with your statement, and so do I!

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

the quote
I’m truly baffled as to why this team can’t seem to extract its collective head from its collective ass before they head to the locker room for the first time.

best quote in the rant

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by maxxj3 on Oct 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

There has to be a want and a need to dominate a game

getting 2 or 3 yards for a 3rd and 2 or 3 shouldn’t be rocket science. To me it almost seems the coaching staff doesn’t trust the players to play a little more free. Why don’t we see the no huddle they’ve been practicing in the preseason? Payton Manning did it all night last night.

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by maxxj3 on Oct 18, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The no huddle is great

against an aggressive pass rush. If worked very well on the drive before half time during the Philly game.

by mwalex on Oct 18, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid analysis Dave…..

Two comments….

Dunta Robinson hit was no way close to the maliciousness of Harrison’s hits this weekend.

Reason the run defense held so well this week was because the Phillys threw carte blanche all day. Falcons were just giving away yardage.

by JCush on Oct 18, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, but the Eagles still ran the ball quite a few times

They were stymied throughout the game. Unfortunately, the Falcons couldn’t stop the pass, even so.

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by Dave Choate on Oct 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually when u stop the run u give a lil more up to the pass

But we gave them everything. We bit on every head bob and half assed fake handoff. One positive, we did tackle a bit better. Guys were wrapping up. When we could catch them of course.

by aces666high on Oct 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo can somebody please break down what is wrong with the hit dunta did on jackson???

I mean I don’t like the players getting hurt but it looked legit 2 me he had his hands on the ball and he hit him I don’t understand? As far as the offense tho man I agree turner should get less carries but I don’t think snelling should get the load. We should start passing on either 1st or second down because literally everyone watching the game knows what we are about to do. It’s beyond frustrating at this point because its just the same ol sh@t from playcalling. It doesn’t change IT WILL NOT IMPROVE he’s gonna run his plays and this must be his last season. Turner looks good if you ask me a little slow sometimes but its far from his fault.
         As far as BVG I’ve never been a fan of him either when the team is winning he gets a pass but realistically we could be a lot better. he has a lot of dumb ass schemes from blitzes to coverage. I like the 4-3 but his execution just isn’t it. So much talent that not only doesn’t get in the endzone, but can’t pick up a first down??? Shameful.
          Now I will say the sky aint falling we still make the playoffs but we don’t beat good teams and were not feared by other teams. we have a complete football team not hardly “rebuilding” if we can’t impress against cinci next week who is off a bye week then we don’t deserve to be talked about as superbowl contenders.

by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Oct 18, 2010 2:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

We Stunk

Plain and simple. All aspects. I’m more concerned about player health at this point than anything else. I’ve put the game behind me. Starting to concentrate on the Bengals. Next three are at home with a bye thrown in. We can win all of these games before going to St.Louis. Let’s move on. I’m suprised that no one cares more about the health of the players. Enough of the breakdowns and analysis. The game is over and done, this is the NFL, you are going to have bad days during the course of a season, I treat this as a bad day at work. One loss and the sky falls down, give me a break.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good point

But with a game like this, there’s still a strong desire to analyze.

by vumpler on Oct 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this game will do more good than bad for us

For the past month, we’ve been winning some games we honestly should have lost for various reasons. In the Saints game, we didn’t carry our regulation intensity to overtime and it almost cost us (even though we played a really good game all day). We let the 49ers go up 14-0 early in the first quarter at which point our defense clamped down for the rest of the game. Then late int he game Clements made a great play, but Roddy made a better one and gave us another opportunity.

I’m happy with our defense this season even though they just got exposed in a major way. The Eagles’ playcalling was spectacular in the first quarter. They picked up on the fact that the Falcons have been getting off to slow starts and exploited that. Trying to come back from being down 21-0 is not easy to do.

The most discouraging thing was how we had no answers for some of their more gimmicky big plays early on. The play that stands out was their end-around that burned us on the first drive. Because we got burned by that, we bit hard on the fake later in the game that went for the 83 yard touchdown. I don’t want to say we got outschemed, but giving up big plays to gimmicks like that can take the wind out of your sails.

On the bright side, gimmicks that work are pretty rare in the NFL. If they weren’t, they’d be all over top plays. Most teams just don’t have the personnel to pull them off effectively. Unfortunately for us, the Eagles have those personnel. Because the Eagles offense is so loaded, I’m not prepared to hit the panic button on the defense just yet. We gave up a lot of big plays to an offense built almost entirely on big play ability. When you see them line up, it’s a safe bet they’re swinging for the fences. This is meant to put the defensive performance in some kind of perspective while noting that it was still very poor rather than excuse them.

On the other hand, our offense has a lot of work to do. They’ve built a reputation of slacking off until they absolutely must score points. Maybe it’s because in those situations, they’re getting softer coverages, but I don’t know that that should be a big enough factor that we can’t move the ball effectively for four quarters. Jenkins showed up big and Gonzo had some nice plays, but aside from that, I was left wondering why we left our offense at home for this road trip.

I’m by no means ready to give up on the Falcons. I think that this game will show them that showing up for half a game (if that) will not cut it in this league. I think it will motivate them and they’ll respond appropriately. But there was so much wrong with this game that I don’t know they’ll be able to fix it all this week. I think they should focus on offense first and foremost. If we don’t let teams get massive leads on us, it takes pressure off the defense and we might see fewer of these ridiculous big plays.

by vumpler on Oct 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

With you vumpler, this game was probably like getting ice water thrown in your face. Your post hit it on the head, my friend.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ice water in the face, indeed

Good analogy. At times on Sunday it felt more like Ben-Gay on the jock strap, though!

by tom slick on Oct 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Tom,

I never thought of it that way, good one bro!

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can debate if the Harrison’s or Robinson hits were clean. The problem is that as players keep getting bigger and stronger while you have zero change in the strength or protection of the brain/ligaments etc, than additional safety measures have to be implemented. I’m all for solid hits, but taking around helmet to helmet tacking will get the players back to the basics. And Harrison’s comments on the matter just shows his ignorance. Isn’t this the guy who leaves his attack dog laying around with his young child?

by JCush on Oct 18, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No Huddle/Hurry Up

I don’t think there’s a cure-all for the offense, but using a hurry-up offense should be a good start. You negate speed rushers who blow by Baker like a politician dashing for a microphone. You can rotate Snelling and Turner more effectively, wearing down opposing defenses.

And you can use some of that vaunted Matt Ryan smarts. Every article about him talks about how smart and well-prepared he is. If so, let’s see it. Let him read defenses and react to them. Give him more options at the line of scrimmage.

I think it’s an easier change to make than, say, finding a replacement for Sam Baker. You already have a Hurry Up Offense, just use it more often.

by Hawes on Oct 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

stop Jeremy Maclin (a rising star in the NFL, in my opinion), DeSean Jackson, Jason Avant and Brent Celek by waving his Scheme Wand of +10 Stopping, you need to recognize how talented the Eagles offense is.

One of the funnier things ive ever read. Personally I think Maclin will end up better than Djax

Going to touch on the Dunta Robinson hit on DeSean Jackson first. I don’t for one second believe there was malicious intent on the part of Robinson. If you watch the hit a few times, you can draw your own conclusions, but it looks to me like Dunta picked a very bad time and way to brace for impact. I’m sure the NFL and many others will debate the angle Robinson took there, and the penalty will be debated, but if it’s not malicious that’s not what concerns me. What concerns me is the aftermath, which was horrific for both teams.

Dont think he meant to hurt him. Maybe just put him on the turf quick. I mean DJAX has the ability to take it in alway I think he just was thinking I have to get there quick before Jackson could plant and run. That make any sense

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not too worried.

We always lose to the Eagles, it seems, so this loss didn’t come as a surprise to me. If the trend continues to next week, then I’ll be concerned. Hopefully, we will take home a few lessons from this defeat.

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by ironchapman on Oct 18, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

We will. You can learn from a loss, and correct the mistakes. Yeah, if we lose to the striped cats in our own building, there maybe some concern. The Bengals are not the Eagles by any stretch.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Eagles kicker

missed three field goals
And the Eagles still scored 31 points.
Against our supposedly good defense…
That means the Eagles were scoring on nearly every drive
This game was 10 times worse than the 08/09 matchup and the 09 cowboys game combined.

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by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know

What else to say at this point. I’m done, and I agree. The Eagles have a very explosive and dynamic defense. Wonders what the ’skins did to shut them down..

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol without sounding like im bitching

The Skins have been gifted a couple wins. There was a non PI call that would have given us the TD to be ahead.
And the whole debacle at the half should have netted us a TD as well.

If you look at the stats we should have won that game grrr lol.

But getting back to the Falcons. i dont think you are that bad of a team. I picked you to win against the Saints. Actually ive been picking you to win all of them so far…..Minus the Eagles game that is. IDK why everyone here is so negative for

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Udalango..

That’s how it is here. I’m one of the only few whose not negative.. You guys handed us our lunch yesterday, and we deserved it. You guys are my second favorite team behind the Falcons. You guys are looking good. Hopefully Desean will make a full recovery soon. Yeah, that game against the Skins was weird to say the least. Kolb is your guy, not Vick. Hopefully, will see each other in the playoffs. Good Luck the rest of the way, unless you play us :-)

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How in the world did you take the Eagles as team 2?

Are you a bird watcher lol. But yea Stupid skins luck wont continue

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, I am a bird watcher! Birds of prey are my favorite animals.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Seahawks? EWWWWWWW

But c’mon Eagles are soooooooooooooo much cooler than Falcons.
There is that video of Eagles dragging goats of mountains how badass is that. lol

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know Udalango...

That video is cool. Eagles are bad ass anyway. Ever see a “happy” eagle? Falcons have been my favorite for decades. Like the colors, logos, and the name. I think the peregrine falcon rocks!! Seahawks are actually ospreys. Ravens are carrion feeders, and Cardinals, are well, Cardinals! Like the avian stuff, I see :)

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peregrine are the divers right?

Birds are cool. But I like reptiles. Crocodile are basically awesome. I always hated your logo though. It was my rival highschools and I still hate it. But they were the “Dragonhawks” But still Hate it

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was

the name of yours school’s team?

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blue Devils

I hate Duke but people keep thinking im a fan. Lol i just started college so wearing my high school stuff isnt weird

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine is

the Matadors. You know, the bullfighters. There’s a team in our league called the Eagles.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, peregrines are the divers.

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and never heard of a Happy eagle

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ever look at

pics of eagles? They all look unamused. About ready to hand your ass to you, then kick it…

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh thought you were talking about like an internet meme or something

But yea I saw this giant bald eagle in Yellowstone had the exact same look in his eyes that the wolves had the whole
“If I wanted to I could have you dead in a matter of minutes and nothing you could do could stop me.”
Granted the wolves were scarier to me at least
The bears kinda just seemed used to humans and didnt have that look it was more of a ’ughhhh they back again"

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they

Would just stare the wolves, bears, and humans down, because they are good at it, and still would hand them their collective butts…

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man I have seen a few animals up close

Crocodiles kinda just follow you around to try and see if they can eat ya. Eagles got the whole “ill kick your ass” Same with wolves. But the scariest ive ever felt was with Barracuda. I dont swim well so theres that. And just the look in their eye. Idk it was at least a thousand times scarier than everyotther thing ive seen

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've had

Coyotes follow me, when you have food, and they stay away back. I’ve had tarantulas tell me to f off. Falcons and Hawks sit and watch, waiting for the opportunity. Owls just give you the “what?” look, and the same goes for the male (ram) bighorn sheep. I’ve looked at these right up there as well..

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

idk if you know what philmont is

But just incase its a big ranch in New Mexico where you can go on like week long hikes.
Went on a 2 week hike and during that we had a bear just post up in the middle of camp it was wild. Scary but awesome. there were some wild horse which we awesome. A cougar or two was there but we werent to terrible close to it. Yellow stone is great. I want to go hit up South Africa and Australia. Go see the Sharks.

Andrew.Maw10@yahoo.com. I dont have any pictures but I love the outdoorsy type stuff so if you got a good pic id love to see it

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by Udalango on Oct 19, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You have

an e-mail address, I’ll send you a cool pic when I have a chance..

by EvilFalcon on Oct 18, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The skins faced the confused Eagles team

because of Vick going down at an inopportune time
Since Kolb has regained his rhythm

Love is overrated [clap clap clap clap clap]
overrated [clap clap clap clap clap]

by brotherbrown on Oct 18, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles fan here

Not here to flame, just want to say that if Dunta gets suspended then it’s a horrible day for football. That hit was not malicious or intentional in the outcome, it was just what happens when two fast guys slam into each other each running 10 miles an hour. It was barely helmet on helmet.

I understand where all this sudden focus on hard hits is coming from but come on, it’s football. It’s why these players are making millions of dollars, there is a lot of risk involved in the game. Players can become paralyzed from hits far less than that, is the NFL going to suspend them too? At some point you just have to look at the game and say, you know what? People are going to get hurt. If you don’t want to get hurt, play another game because other wise we’ll see a lot of basketball scores up there since the defenders are being asked to play at less than their ability.

It’s all crap and the wussification of football is almost complete.

Don’t suspend Dunta.

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by Rogue Nine on Oct 18, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It wasnt that its a helmet to helmet

The hit is still illegal. The rule just changed this offseason. DJax was a defenseless WR and hitting a defenseless WR is illegal regardless of where its hit.

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let them play. The fact that the defenseless receiver rule is brand new shows how wussified the game has become. The league has been here for decades before they decided to come up with that rule because everyone gets their panties in a bundle when people get hurt now. What happened 20 years ago? Nothing. You moved on because it’s a rough game and people get hurt.

Asking defenders to hold back because someone might get hurt is just stupid. I’ll take my millions and be a tackling dummy for someone.

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by Rogue Nine on Oct 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that 20 years ago no one was doing this battling ram tackling

Im not telling them to hold back im telling them to not be fucking retarded. Just because you can throw yourself at someone epically retarded doesnt mean you should.

Same way that in MMA just because you could soccer kick the dudes head when he was laying there doesnt mean you should.

At the end of the day football is a form of entertainment. And watching people getting hurt isnt entertaining to me. Dawk hit people hard all the time but he didnt do this battering ram shit. You saying that you are fine with people getting hurt just cause they are getting paid is ridiculous

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Easy to Say

Your talking about thinking it out in a split second. Two guys running at each other that hard that fast it’s hard to avoid an ugly hit. The only way you can stop those hits in Football is by putting flags around everyones waist and having grown men run around playing grab-ass.

As an NFL Coach put it, these guys choose to play football, they know the risks. Just like the Police and Troops choose to go into potential life-threating situations. Only the football guys get a lot more money and seemingly more sympathy…

BTW, I think Pittsburgh Steeler are really gonna have a hard time with this rule, those guys love to blow people up.

by Falcons1133 on Oct 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this but you teach them to tackle better it will be instinctive to wrap up

And not launch yourself

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by Udalango on Oct 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Also just cause they are being paid millions doesnt make it ok to be reckless

Look at rugby they wear not even half the “protection” that football players do. You dont see people trying to be a battering ram. You see people wrapping up and getting them to the turf. All the pads give them this illusion of protection, much in the same way all the features on cars, while good actually do a lot of bad as well. People get behind the wheel not really knowing how to drive or what ABS really is and do stupid things in the illusion of safety. With out the pads we have defenders tackling right. We dont have people just saying “im going to run into him really had because I can. Who cares if i get hurt”

players need to stop being stupid and its not going to change unless we start setting examples.

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by Udalango on Oct 18, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

um

Dude, its only one game. Why so glum? We have played pretty well every game, even when we have made mistakes we have been able to overcome them. Once we were down 14 – 0 though I saw the light go off for most of the guys out there on Sunday. Its hard to overcome that early lead against a good team. If we had gotten the eagles down 14 -0 I dare say they would have felt the same way and the situation would have been reversed. We are going to lay the smack down on the Bungles this coming Sunday in the GA dome and go into the bye week looking good at 5 – 2. Mark my words!!!

Life is a garden. Dig it!

by Hardcore Falcon on Oct 19, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Why so Glum?

Its not losing that is bad, it is getting skunked like we did. The Steelers game hurt, but we played with heart all game so I can live with that. I know Philly is a good team, but New Orleans is just as good if not better, so that sort of performance is inexcusable.

by Falcons1133 on Oct 19, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sam Baker sucks

I’m really surprised how this guy gets owned every week. After the 1st season, he looked real good. Now he looks like a practice squad guy. Same can be said for Turner too.

by Falcons1133 on Oct 19, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

This thread is full of stuff. I challenge you all to a true fan-off. We’ll see how big your e-peens really are…

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-CPJ

"You could spend the next fifteen seconds of your life watching a man and a tiger scream together, or you could be an idiot."
Fact.

by Jesse28 on Oct 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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