A Baleful Glare Around The NFC South
In honor of Columbus Day, I'm going to evoke the spirit of the great explorer Christopher Columbus and pretend to be pioneering a new feature at The Falcoholic, but in reality I'll just be re-discovering something many people have already done. Take that, long-dead Columbus!
Basically, we're going to take a look around the NFC South and see what our competition is up to. As you know, the 4-1 Falcons currently lead the division. Behind them, in order, are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the New Orleans Saints, an Arkansas-based Pop Warner team, an elderly care facility touch football squad, a guy taking a football to the groin and the Carolina Panthers.
In case you missed the most important part of the preceding paragraph, I'll reiterate: 4-1 Falcons.
For now, join me after the jump and we'll look at the other teams audaciously challenging for the NFC South crown.....and also the Panthers.
Tampa Bay Bucs, 3-1
Raise your hand if you thought the Bucs would have such an excellent record after four games. For those of you who raised your hands, please stop lying.
This record is a bit of an illusion, but make no mistake, the Bucs are a team on the rise. Josh Freeman hasn't put up eye-popping numbers at quarterback thus far this season, but he's beginning to limit his mistakes and make the most of his cannon arm. The team has taken great pains to surround him with talent at receiver (Mike Williams, Arrelious Benn) and running back, where Cadillac Williams will soon be supplanted by a deep stable that includes Earnest Graham, LaGarette Blount and Kareem Huggins.
As is the case with the Falcons, defense is keeping them in games. They're second in the NFL to the 4-1 Falcons with nine picks and have 10 sacks, lending a big-play air to the defense that was sorely lacking the last couple of years. They're managing to mostly limit the damage, though they're doing so against some offensively inept teams (Browns, Bengals, Panthers). The Steelers beat the crap out of them by a 38-13 margin.
So what's in store for the Bucs? I expect a regression to the mean before long, and these Bucs probably won't win more than 7-8 games. That would represent a significant leap forward for this football team, especially if they can eke out a couple of wins against clearly superior competition. I'm interested to see how they play the 4-1 Falcons.
New Orleans Saints, 3-2
The Saints' fanbase appears split between people who are pulling a Bender and those who are convinced the Saints' problems stem from nothing more than the most fixable of issues. Injuries are a popular meme right now for Saints' fans and probably will be for the national media, which is kind of hilarious considering the number of "WUT'S WRONG WITH FAILCONS?!?!?!" articles we had to deal with last year with equally or more severe injury problems.
On paper, this is still a team performing well. They do have a winning record, they've hung on for some tough wins and Drew Brees & Co. are still looking very good statistically. I will admit that they've been hit hard by injuries at running back, where they've lost Pierre Thomas and Reggie Bush for multiple weeks, and in the secondary. But there's something lurking under the surface here.
Sean Payton has been known as an offensive genius since his days with the Dallas Cowboys, but he seems off in 2010. Plays where he might have aggressively punished a defense have been replaced with meek little runs or short passes, and even Saints fans will tell you there's been little consistency in the way plays are called. Think it's frustrating when Mike Mularkey pounds it with Michael Turner three times in a row for the 4-1 Falcons? The Saints watched Chris Ivory gut the Cardinals defense and decided to turn it over to Drew Brees, who at one point whiffed on three straight passes in the red zone.
Getting back injured plays will undoubtedly help. They still have too much talent to miss the playoffs, and penciling them in for any less than 10 wins would be a mistake. There's a fire missing here, though, and it's fair to wonder if they're the automatic NFC South champions many of us assumed they would be.
Carolina Panthers, 0-5
All you need to know about the current state of affairs in Pantherland is how desperately John Fox is trying to save his job.
From there, everything else kind of falls into place. Yanking Matt Moore so early in the season for a clearly overwhelmed Jimmy Clausen? That sure does reek of desperation. The Panthers have two of the best running backs in the NFL and some nice defensive pieces, and all they have to show for is an excruciatingly bad season.
I respect Panthers fans and it's hard to watch them deal with this. Sure, we knew they'd be a bad team, but abysmal? No. Fox has checked out mentally, according to writer James the Aussie, and until he's fired the Panthers probably aren't going to right the ship. The playcalling has made Mike Mularkey and Sean Payton look like geniuses, the offensive line is scrabbling and their second best receiver is something called a David Gettis. At this point, it would be a minor miracle if they won six games.
Honestly, the Panthers might be better off starting Tony Pike at quarterback.
Division Predictions, Week 5
Falcons: 11-5
Saints: 10-6
Bucs: 7-9
Panthers 4-12
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Stat of the day...
Under Mike Smith, when heading into the fourth quarter with a lead, the Falcons are 20-1.
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I demand to know which one the loss was.
Was it our only home loss under Matty Ice? The Broncos?
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by Caleb Rutherford on Oct 11, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm...
That sounds about right, can’t remember if we lost that one in the third or fourth quarter. I heard this stat on talk radio this morning.
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We should have won that game
just came up short
It was truly an aberrationi
Would have loved hearing “Ryan has never loss a game at the Georgia Dome”
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by brotherbrown on Oct 11, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Who beamed the Bucs up from nowhere?
Mr. Spock can’t help but raise a single eyebrow at the sight of the 3-1 Buccaneers. It’s only logical to wonder if they’re going to be a force to reckon with in years ahead, Captain.
Leif Ericson thanks u Dave
Big assist to Carson Palmer for throwing two late picks that the Bucs turned into the game tying and winning points.
2/4 teams are surprises in the NFC South
Falcons, 4-1 – I expected them to be 4-1 after 5 (not sure who I thought they’d lose to) but I’m still pleasantly surprised.
I predicted that the saints would have a tough season because every superbowl champ does – every team plays their heart out against the defending champs. 3-2 doesn’t surprise me.
The two teams that do surprise me are the bucs and panthers. I didn’t think the panthers would be 0-5, and they’re looking atrocious right now.
The bucs should have lost yesterday, but it doesn’t matter if they should have or not – they won, and they’re off to a surprising start. I think Dave is right – I think they’ll abandon ship soon and end the season dismally.
The only Falcons fan in Los Angeles? The Billionth Lakers fan in Los Angeles? Either way, I'm happy.
Bucs are playing the Saints in Tampa this upcoming weekend and they’re already predicting a tv blackout. I guess the local fans already know the success won’t last…
Well, that, plus the economy. But I blame the team.
Morton hit Heyward with an offspeed pitch. Early indication is that the baseball survived the impact.
Panthers might as well start Armanti Edwards.
He may be raw, but the kid’s a winner. Infinity and a half AA nat’l championships for App State.
At this point, I think it’s safe to say that Clausen AND Moore aren’t the answer for the Panthers. This just goes to show how heavily they leaned on Steve Smith throughout the years. I think it’s safe to say that Delhomme was the scapegoat for a larger problem there in Panther land.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Oct 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
???
So, you say Clauson isn’t ‘it’ after what, TWO games?
Geezus, give the guys some credit, they either have ZERO talent at TE and ZERO talent at WR outside of Steve Smith, and you are bangin on the QB’s?
I’m also not so sure the coaching staff really knows WHAT to do, it seems they are still stuck in a Super Bowl funk from however many years ago it has been. Everyone else (teams) have gotten better, improved, and that includes the COACHING STAFFS, but NOT CAROLINA.
I think Claussen will be fine, probably
But it was ridiculously shortsighted to toss him in with David Gettis and a grab bag of crap to throw to. I agree it’s on the coaching.
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I think Dante Rosario is a solid TE.
I live in North Carolina, so I know plenty about the Panthers, too.
Clausen (or any Panthers QB) has two fantastic RBs at his disposal, and he’s still throwing ducks? Sounds like a problem. Neither Moore nor Clausen are getting it done for the Cats, plain and simple.
Rosario can catch passes, and an offense shouldn’t suddenly turn anemic when the #1 receiver goes down. It may not fire off as well, but it should still work to an extent. Neither guy has looked good at all this year.
I say make the fans happy and start Armanti. That will bring ticket holders to the games, and that’s what they need right now.
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by Caleb Rutherford on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Worst part...
….is you have the incumbent starter at QB play WORSE than a mid-round rookie. But again, all opposing defenses really need to do is stack the box and hope one of those cardboard cutouts at WR have a ball stick to them. Before Smith got hurt, it was nothing to double-team him because the rest of the WR’s are about Division II quality. Rough year for you Panthers fans for sure!
by HotLunch4You on Oct 12, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They won't start Armanti
They view him as a WR/QB/Wildcat hybrid. If anything, they MIGHT start Tony Pike.
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Why don't they
do what they did against us in 2006
line up in wildcat for every play
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by brotherbrown on Oct 12, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
oh i got you
start him as QB
Radical and novel idea
But I don’t think it will work
They are too conservative in Carolina
And Edwards would have to know the offensive system.
He may be rusty.
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by brotherbrown on Oct 12, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the QB IMO
…at least in some way.
How can you have Matt Moore that looked very decent in the past few seasons in leading some scoring drives with two great RB’s, and Clausen very promising, and all of a sudden they can’t score???
They may have Oline probles worse than us, or receivers are getting open, or it’s the Offensive Coordinator…somewhat worse that Mularkey.
If Moore and Clause are Failing, I think any QB will fail
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by brotherbrown on Oct 11, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm, I disagree
They’ve got a lot of problems, but I don’t think Claussen has looked promising at all this season. I just think he’s looked bad.
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by Dave Choate on Oct 12, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
In the preseason
I watched some of the games
they both looked pretty decent against teams like the ravens
however the regular season something different
I haven’t had the luxury of watching
I meant in the preseason…sorry about the confusion and I’m okay with your disagreement sir.
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by brotherbrown on Oct 12, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And pre-season does indicate something
He may well be a good quarterback someday. Tossing him in against full-speed defenses and expecting anything more than mediocrity was a mistake, in my opinion.
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no argument here
however I think it may be (at least for me and them) moreso of hindsight is 20/20.
Moore wasn’t doing well either.
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by brotherbrown on Oct 13, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Claussen
Sure the Panthers have Williams and Stewart (for now, how great would it be to pick up D Williams for a mid round draft pick). But Claussen doesn’t have anyone to throw too. So the defense will stack 8 to 9 guys in the box and blitz every play.
Whoever is running that team should force John Fox to sit Claussen till they get their act together. Otherwise they are going to ruin their new franchise quarterback. Let Moore or the undrafted rookie take a pounding.
I seriously think that they are going to have to trade one of those running backs for atleast a 2nd or middle and late round draft pick. They need too much help, and don’t like to sign free agents.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't mean to be picky but...............
We are FIRST in interceptions with 10 and we have 11 sacks! Gotta give our boys credit for every last bit. Although I’m not sure if one could consider Biermann’s an interception…..it was more of an artistic display of disregard of what nature thinks big men can’t do. Bring on the Sheagles baby! I’ll be there!
by ramsjigga on Oct 11, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
recd for
…..it was more of an artistic display of disregard of what nature thinks big men can’t do.
by RamblininAlb on Oct 11, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
11-5?
Only predicting 11 wins at this point? I must respectfully disagree. Since they’ve still got the panthers twice, I think they’ll end up with at least 12.
4 wins???
How are the Panthers going to win 4 games? Maybe 2
i agree we are the team in the nfc south but
The bucs are decent. They won’t beat us this year but if u look at that schedule they have some very winnable games. I think they beat NO at home this week not just because of the cardinal meltdown but because hell the panthers almost beat em. I could see them at 9-7
by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Oct 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe 0
But I dont’ think they’ll win that many
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by brotherbrown on Oct 11, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks about right.
Every team the Saints face is gunning for them because they are the defending champs. The Bucs are definitely on the way up, but I’m not sold that they are a playoff contender. And I am honestly shocked the Panthers are so terrible. I thought they would have a down year, but I didn’t think they would be the worst team in the NFL. It looks like the Falcons could be NFC South champs.
by falconfanatic79 on Oct 11, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions
Buffalo looks better than the Panthers
The Bills beat them last year in Carolina 20-9 with their best QB Jake Delhomme
There is a curse in Carolina
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by brotherbrown on Oct 11, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
But Dave
In my April article I talked about Tampa possibly being a decent to good team this year
So I raise my hand and not lie.
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You raise a good point
Everyone except brotherbrown, put your hands down!
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In addition
that’s amazing that the Falcons Bucs and Panthers are leading the league roughly in INT’s and sacks I think it is.
NFC South has some good defenses, and The Saints is all Offense.
The 2001 Panther season might be a better one than this one
I really wasn’t expecting the Panthers to be that awful on offense. Something is wrong there, but there defense is pretty decent no doubt.
I feel bad for those guys
As for the Bucs, I don’t think they are going away from the picture. They have a favorable schedule with easy teams first and the tougher ones later when the Bucs can get stronger in confidence and rhythm.
I could be wrong though.
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oh yes
Go Panthers in 2011!!!
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by brotherbrown on Oct 11, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta 12-4 to 14-2 – The only games I see us maybe losing are Baltimore, Green Bay, or New Orleans. And even then there are other factors in play. We could just as easily go 15-1. We played our hardest games already this year. Pittsburgh and New Orleans (away), the only team that worries me right now is Baltimore. New Orleans and Green Bay have a lot of issues to fix before they get back into the top of the league. Don’t get me wrong I think the Eagles, Bengals, and Seahawks could provide an out of division challenge, and the Bucs can’t be overlooked. But the way our D is playing, I have a lot of confidence. And once MM finds the other side of his play sheet, we should be putting up 30 a game.
Saints 10-6 to 11-5
Tampa 7-9 to 9-7
Carolina 0-16 to 3-13 (they are atrocious this year)
by Whyte Bler 000 on Oct 12, 2010 12:49 AM EDT reply actions
15-1, no way
Our hardest game is going to be Baltimore because their offense is much better than what the Steelers had. They can run and throw the ball. They have a very good WR corp. NO will want blood for ATL beating them in the Dome. Bengals are unpredictable because they always find a way to lose in the 4th quarter. I am concerned about TB at TB, NO, Baltimore, Green Bay and the Eagles.
Realistically I see ATL ranging from11-5 to 13-3.
the 15-1 was kind of a jump and not in my actual prediction. I said 12-4 to 14-2.
We play tough at home, Baltimore can’t expect to walk in and thrash us. They have Boldin and Mason, who are very good. And they have Ray Rice and Willis MacGahee. Kinda sounds a lot like our team, 2 good receivers and 2 good backs. But they are weak against the pass.
Green Bay has a host of problems, including protecting Rodgers, and no run game. Their defense isn’t as good this year because teams are analyzing the 3-4 now that half the league plays it.
New Orleans, if they ever wake up will be a threat again.
Tampa, the only good team they’ve played this year was Pittsburgh. Palmer blew the game for them. How can you throw 3 INTs with 81 and 85 on the field. See how they do next week against the Saints. Freeman will be a good QB and I think they will challenge us this year and in the future. But I don’t think they are quite ready yet.
We need a convincing win this week. Need to post 34+ and keep them under 14.
by Whyte Bler 000 on Oct 12, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Baltimore
Yes our toughest game
Can anyone see it going something like this???
At first: Ravens 13-3 lead
Falcons storm back late and barely take over the game like the epic Manning vs Brady Matchup.
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by brotherbrown on Oct 12, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions

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