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The Atlanta Falcons And RB Prospect C.J. Spiller

I was interested to see that commenter brickcheney broke the law in yesterday's potential defensive players  discussion for the 2010 Atlanta Falcons. He raised the possibility of getting running back C.J. Spiller of Clemson, who is almost certain to be a first round pick. This predictably got conversation going, because it's unlikely and an out-of-the-box thought.

Guess what? I like it.

After all, I'm the guy who pined for Percy Harvin around this time last year. While Harvin was primarily a receiver who could return and play a little running back, Spiller is a running back who can catch a bit and return. They're both extremely dynamic players, but to my knowledge Spiller doesn't have any of the character issues that Harvin supposedly had. It's worth noting that aside from his migraines, Harvin was a model citizen in 2009, and a damn fine player for the Minnesota Vikings.

Frankly, players like Spiller, Harvin and even the loathsome visage of Reggie Bush are becoming a fixture in the NFL. Coaches love having a speedy weapon who can cause havoc on offense and special teams and fulfill multiple roles. When versatility is such a buzzword both in the league and in the working world many of us inhabit, guys like Spiller are at a premium. You may argue that Jerious Norwood is already one of those guys, but I would argue in return that he's almost certainly going to leave for another team in search of a bigger role—I think the San Diego Chargers and Cleveland Browns are two teams that could really use him—and injuries are starting to become a recurring problem with him.

So the real question is whether Spiller is worth a first round pick. Daniel Duello over at Red White Black and Blue said last year that Harvin was just one example of that type of player, and that a similar guy could show up later in the draft. That's certainly a possibility, but chances are good in 2010 that to get a player like Spiller, you're going to have to pay the piper. It's an intriguing thought, and it really depends on whether you believe we need help at the skill positions on offense or not. My inclination is to go defense or offensive line in the first round, still, but it's an interesting discussion to have.

Any thoughts from the proletariat?

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This what i think. Spiller is a nice looking first round pick, his numbers dont lie, but he is going to be a tough person to reach since other teams possibly want him. He is like that really good sale at Wal-mart that you would be dumb to give up. So here is one way of getting him: trade Norwood or snelling for a higher pick(if thats possible). There is another guy we could get in his place but i forgot his name so ill put it in the reply. Thats my idea if we want to go that route. Our main concern is defense but thats not my department though i have a idea or two but no clue who to draft. Remember though the 99 cent free agency is still open folks. We dont have have to shop at the Wal-Nfl draft-mart, where we would end up fighting with some old man over a cheap can of beans. lol. Thats my report. Until next time.

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 9:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I remember

The name i forgot. It was Anthony Dixon of Mississippi state. His numbers are solid and from what i heard he is very versatile and is a possible second to fourth round pick.

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 9:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dixon would be a good and probably more reasonable choice

I just like versatility in a back.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 23, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

This is off topic but I just noticed NFL Network is playing the 99 game between the Falcons and Vikings

Jamaal just did the Dirty Bird dance !

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 23, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Someone else said this,

but it bears repeating.
It would make sense to get Spiller if we had a 2nd round pick, but since we don’t, its harder to justify not getting a CB or DE in the first round.

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by phoenix falcoholic on Jan 23, 2010 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

I would like to see Atlanta draft CJ

You can never have too many RB’s

In 2009 Burner and Norwood were often hurt

Most of this year’s playoff teams had 2 or 3 good RB’s :

Ravens: Rice McClain MaGahee
Colts: Addai Brown Hart
Vikings: Peterson Taylor Harvin
Jets: Jones Greene TRich
Cards: Hightower Wells
Packers: Grant and one whose name I forgot
Saints: Bush Thomas Bell
Bengals: Benson Johnson
Cowboys: Choice Barber Jones
Eagles: Westbrook McCoy
Chargers: Sproles Tomilson Hester

Snelling filled in well for Atlanta but a gamebreaker like Spiller would be an upgrade

I also like the thunder and lightning package that Turner and Spiller would provide

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 23, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Good examples.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 23, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

So......

What did you think Dave. Pretty good/funny Rb report huh?

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 11:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I like the perspective

And in a couple weeks, we’ll be doing the full front page RB reports. I’ll shoot you an e-mail and let you know when we’ll be looking to run it.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 23, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Good points

I was pretty much thinking the same thing. Like i said 2010 is the year of the Falcon.

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Multiple RBs

I think one should look at those examples in context.

I agree that Ravens, Jets, Vikings, Cowboys, Cards, Saints and Chargers are true multiple-RB teams (which still doesn’t guarantee quality per se, Vikings for instance are a mediocre run-offense this season, despite having the #6 RB of the league, and the Cards and Chargers running games are among the worst 5 of the NFL…) but Colts, Cards, Bengals, Eagles and Packers too? If those teams are multiple-RB-teams than the Falcons too already are.

The Colts shouldn’t be considered a running team at all ;) And the others have backup-RBs with familiar names only because the starters for those teams got injured for a few games, giving sdome play-time to the backups which might not have seen in case of an injury-free season. By the same reasoning tha Falcons are a multiple-RB team. (a la “Hey, Snellig had 4 TDs this season!”… which of course is only possible, if Turner misses those games he missed…)

by wiesengrund on Jan 23, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Falcons looked set with Burner and Norwood last year

But Turner missed half the year and Norwood didn’t play well all year

That tells me the Falcons need another top notch RB

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 23, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The fact we have three guys that can contribute during the game tells me that we need to address other needs with our first pick. Would you want to pay first round money to a guy who gets less than ten snaps a game? I wouldn’t. Quality backs will be available later in the draft. First round, you need to look for a starter who can come in and provide immediate help. The defense, by far, needs a lot more help than the offense

by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 23, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

If we had drafted someone like Spiller last year he would have played a ton due to the loss of Turner and Norwood

Look at how many carries Snelling had in 2009

Are you confident Turner and Norwood will both return to 2008 form and stay healthy all year ?

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 24, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Norwood on the chopping block this offseason. I expect a trade.

by Jon Cushman on Jan 24, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

RFA, unless a labor deal is reached before March

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by orang3b on Jan 25, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

In hindsight, of course it is easy to say we could have used another back to fill in when Turner and Norwood were hurt. Do you think Ryan and Redman will both stay healthy all season or should we draft another quarterback in case they get hurt? Injuries happen but it is impossible to predict them. Personally, I hope Turner and Norwood stay healthy all year but there is no way to predict it. However, I think we proved we have the depth at RB to cover in case an injury or two occurs. But who will step in and play DE if Abraham gets hurt? OLB if Peterson gets hurt? MLB if Lofton gets hurt? I think those are injuries that would be more devastating and difficult to replace and we should address them in the draft and free agency.

by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 24, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Your argument doesn't make sense.

Here’s why… Michael Turner, although he was out for most of the year, is not an injury prone player. He suffered one “freak” accident and he often played on that injury of his causing it to be worse.

Norwood, on the other hand, has been a notoriously fragile back for the Falcons these past few years, but I doubt the Falcons would use their first round draft pick to address a “secondary” need over the more immediate needs like CB, DE, LB, etc. – the positions that we will be looking to replace with STARTERS not BACKUPS.

You’re specifically speaking about the “if’s” and “then’s”…

by mattlanta on Jan 25, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I believe we are arguing the same point. I do not want the Falcons to draft a running back. I feel there are more immediate needs such as linebacker, defensive end, and secondary. First round guys should be players who can step in and play almost immediately. Although I also wouldn’t mind seeing a guy who learns from John Abraham or Mike Peterson on a rotational basis for a little while until they are ready to become the new leaders of the D.

by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 25, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you mean

Adman Green for the packers. It’s easy to remember because the Packers are Green like the frog.

by brotherbrown on Jan 23, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

packers

The Packers actually split back-up duties pretty even between Green and Brandon Jackson.

by wiesengrund on Jan 23, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The modern offense needs a Crap Your Pants guy.

We have nobody on our offense that makes defensive coordinators crap their pants. Roddy breaks one every now and then, and Turner can demolish an eight-in-the-box if he’s on. Other than that, it’s basic tackle football.

Having rooted against CJ Spiller four times in the past three years, I’d be VERY excited at the thought of Bucs, Panthers, and Saints fans experiencing WHY ARE WE KICKING TO SPILLER?? cold sweats. He is TERRIFYING. Did I mention he had a 60+-yard TD in like 10 of 12 games this year? Does that even make sense?

If CJ spills to us, we thank the good Lord. Passing him up would be exceedingly FAILCOHOLIC. If some other team gets him, we go D.

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by Jason Kirk on Jan 23, 2010 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

Ha!

Although if Suh somehow fell to us, I think I’d take him over Spiller…

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by Dave Choate on Jan 23, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd consider Ronnie Lotting my pinky finger to get Suh.

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by Jason Kirk on Jan 23, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Woah

Very good points. Like i said. If we go offense first round( whichever way wont make me cry) The i suggest Dixon after spiller but if the other way around then i suggest a good defensive playmaker like most people are saying.

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 11:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The Comrade loves Spiller, so I could easily see the Falcons take him. The only reason I don’t see it happening is Harry Douglas. He may not be as strong, but he’s built in same mold.

by Jon Cushman on Jan 23, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

On paper to start 2009 Falcons’ offense looked perfect

But injuries happened to :

Douglass
Ryan
Turner
Norwood
2 offensive linemen
TG

Add in -
Elam’s struggles
off year for Mr Jenks
Roddy’s holdout
Punter and kicker injured in same game

All of which tells me that you can’t have too many good offensive players

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 23, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

The endless debate lol

I wouldnt mind adding Spiller, but what about defense? The Falcons have no second round pick and defense has to be addressed somewhere. I hope their seriously active during free agency and act quickly to sign a proven solid defender,and not just settle on someone.

If I remember correctly Dave, we were both rather high on Sintim last year before the draft. Another rookie that missed the year due to injury.

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by Edgecrusher211 on Jan 23, 2010 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, you and I were leading the charge for Sintim

I still think he’ll be a very effective pass-rushing linebacker, and that’s exactly why I wanted him in 2009. I wouldn’t be all that upset if we drafted someone like him this season.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 23, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I like this

I think that although our defense is extremely lackluster, it has shown that is growing and all it needs is a little time for it to shine. With the constant injuries to Norwood, we are left with two power running backs in Turner and Snelling. If you looked at the trend in elite teams nowadays, it’s all about their offense. New Orleans, Indianapolis, San Diego and Minnesota all have stellar offenses that took them to where they are now. Don’t get me wrong, these teams all also have defenes much superior than that of ours. However, if we want to be in a discussion of elite teams, we need to show that we have a high-calliber, explosive offense, and Spiller would help create just that.

by atlpride on Jan 23, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

In the end

Like a chinesse zodiac lol 2010 is the year of the falcon. PERIOD!

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 1:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oops

I meant calander

by LORD91 on Jan 23, 2010 1:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Falcons D did very well vs the run late in the year

Best example was the Jets game – they could not run at all on Atlanta and only scored on that long pass by Sanchez

As for the lack of pass rush, defense is a unit

Since LB’s and safeties had to help in the secondary, Atlanta could not afford to blitz much, which limited the sacks numbers

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 23, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

I do like the idea of drafting Spiller as well. Here are the reasons why;
1) There were so many injuries to last years draft class that we shouldn’t start drafting their replacements (Perry, Moore, even Williams). Personally I like the combination of Owens and Williams at corner with Grimes or Hill playing nickel.

2) Even tho we don’t have a second round pick, we should get some great comp picks for losing guys like brooking, boley, foxworth etc.

3) We can always trade next years pick or package that with a corner b/c we have too many corners on our team. (Grimes, Williams, Jackson, Owens, Houston, Hill) and quite frankly many of them are too young to start drafting more.

4) Free agency is before the draft, maybe we shore up some of needs there and are able to take Spiller in the first.

With all of that said, I would like atlanta to get some linebacker depth. If lofton or peterson were to miss a few games each, I don’t want to think of the results.

by CRFalco13 on Jan 23, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Point #3

Is the biggest argument against taking a CB early, in my mind (too many and too young). The CB’s under contract (Brian Williams is a UFA) are all fairly young. Adding another rookie will not help much in 2010. And I don’t think trading one will get much in return – remember we got Tye Hill for a 7th Rounder. That’s about what we could get for Houston (probably). If they do decide to draft another CB, my guess is either Houston would get shipped off or (if they got no takers) Tye Hill would get cut.

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by orang3b on Jan 25, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

dreams do come true

sign Aaron Kampman(if i’ve said it once i’ve said it a million times) draft CJ in the 1st then get Trevard Lindley out of Kentucky (CB) in the 3rd he’s 6’ 180 lbs runs about a 4.45 40(not official 40 time just projected) and hopefully we’ll have a comp pick in the 3rd and get AJ Edds (OLB) out of Iowa he’s 6’4" 245 lbs and a beast in my opinion

by gritzblitz on Jan 23, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

you know what Gritzblitz

signing Kampman would not be a bad idea at all. The positive is that he would not be as pricey but the negative is that we don’t know if he will return to form after his injury. I would also look into getting a bigger CB like Bodden. I could really see getting them both without breaking the bank. If and only if we do that can I see picking up Spiller in the 1st round.

by Fear Me on Jan 23, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Aaron Kampman is 30 years old

i doubt TD would consider him as a part of the plan unless he is another TG.

by brotherbrown on Jan 23, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

evidently

you haven’t been watching Kampman play , brother , he is a beast

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

He still has alot of football left

I would prefer to pick a 2-time pro-bowl DE that can help on day one, as long as he’s healthy. And if you’re looking at age that means we have to count out players such as J. Peppers who is also a beast.

by Fear Me on Jan 23, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

and from what i've read

he’s not real happy with the 3-4 defense

by gritzblitz on Jan 24, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

WR?

I know it is a little out there but I think Dez Bryant out of Oklahoma State looks pretty nice. Spiller is really good so he might give us that pop to break up our sometimes really predictable offence, but I think Bryant could be special. Bryant may not be our immediate need but Tony G won’t be around forever. And then we’ll really need another good reciever to go across the middle and for 3rd downs. Jenkins is so inconsistent and Harry Douglas is built to be our slot reciever.
Ultimately, I think we go defense though ,but our offence needs one more piece to be perfect.

by TFriz on Jan 23, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

dez has talent

but i would wait till around the 5th or 6th andf try and get freddie barnes out of bowling green, broke the ncaa record for catches in a season this year with something like 140 catches, he might not be day one starter but the kid has talent

by gritzblitz on Jan 24, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I like him too.

Funny, I just saw him in the Shrine Game and he looked good. He’s got great size and hands from what I saw. I’m not sure he’ll drop to the 5th though, but I’d take him in the 4th no questions.

by TFriz on Jan 24, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Falcons would take Javid Best first....

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by NaGaNole on Jan 23, 2010 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

Jahvid

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by NaGaNole on Jan 23, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the

idea of Spiller , but i think its too soon to hope he might fall to the Birds . I prefer addressing the DL thru free agency ( I really like the Kampman idea ala gritzblitz ) and then fill the holes w/ trust in the Good Comrade and the Coaching staff .

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 5:43 PM EST reply actions  

Kampman is a 3-4 OLB. To put him as a 4-3 outside linebacker means he needs to be capable of dropping into coverage as well as rushing the passer. As a DE, he would have to be very good at stopping the run. I don’t think he fits our system.

by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 23, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

On the contrary

he’s a probowl 4-3 DE. He stuggled in his switch to a 3-4 linebacker because that’s not what he’s been doing. He was always a very good pass-rusher.

by Fear Me on Jan 23, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In my opinion..

If we hit the FA market hard and get all our pieces on Def filled, I am all for C.J Spiller. However I would also like to get a good OL like Zane Beadles from Utah, That guy is a beast. Or even John Jerry, Peria’s Bro, If we we could get a good high 2nd round pick. Hell I would even settle for a WR like Golden Tate or if somehow falls to us Dez Bryant

by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Jan 23, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

John Jerry

I metioned Jerry before and thats a good possibility for the 4th round.

I doubt Trevor Lindley will be available in the 3rd though. I like Golden Tate as well as Noel Devine in the later rounds. Someone who has game changing ability on kickoffs, punt returns, catching and running.

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by Edgecrusher211 on Jan 23, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

don't like Kampman

how about someone like Vince Wilfork ( this is of course they don’ t resign/sign with another team ) there are alot of possibilities to make our defensive secondary better w/o actually having to draft a unproven NFL caliber corner and still leave our #1 pick available to make our team more complete .

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

The only reason

I don’t think we’ll pick up Wilfork is that we would have to pay him a lot of money. And eventhough this is an uncapped year, TD already said that they’re not going to go crazy. Plus, whose spot is he taking, Babs(who plays UT great) or Jerry (who they just signed). I also doubt the patriots let him walk.

Curious, why don’t you like Kampman?

by Fear Me on Jan 23, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Jerry

although , he did play weel in the short time that he played , hasn’t proven that he is actually NFL caliber ( the ability to hold up physically) , although w/ respects ( and apologies ) to Babs , I must admit i did get ahead of myself in that regard . In my defense Babs has shown the strength and speed to move to DE .

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

but our issue is the pass-rush. I admit that we would be much improved in the middle of the line with Wilfork, but we’ll still be in the same situation. We did great against the run with only one running back having a 100 yard game against us. I think if we spend money on a free agent, it should address our needs.

by Fear Me on Jan 23, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

addressing needs

is what I’m talking , if you can collapse the middle you should be able to fo force the QB to the awaiting/ rushing DE’s( ie: Abraham, Sidbury, Davis, Babs, hell even JA98 ) thus making it easier for the secondary to look good , dare I even say great . It’s just that it makes the idea of then drafting a OL w/ the #1 seem like such easier thing . That is if it were to follow that type of scenerio , is all I’m saying .

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

drafting a OL

or any other position of need ( thus covering 2 spots w/ 1 move)

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a huge fan of the D-Line FA Class as a whole...

Wilfork is a stud up the middle stopping the run. But I don’t think he would help with the pass rush, along with the fact he would cost an arm and a leg. Before everyone gives up on Jerry, give him a chance to heal and show what he can do with a pass rush up the middle. I think with Biermann and Sidbury having another year of experience along with Jerry coming back, the D-line will be much better. Like I said earlier, our first round draft pick should be a guy who can come in and contribute immediately. I don’t want to pay first round money to a guy who will get less than ten carries a game or who rotates in the D-line along with four other guys. I would be willing to move down in the first round in exchange for a second round pick. With that first round pick, I like either a corner or outside linebacker, depending on free agency signings, a home-grown safety like Morgan Burnett in the second, and a tackle in the third round. Just a thought though. No telling who could be available as a steal in the second or third round.

by sportsfan4life2012 on Jan 24, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

let me put it like this

if the Birds acquired a beast thru Fa ( whoever that might be ) , Jerry proves he can hold up and the whole DL is able to hold and substitute up and down the line . the BIrds get the pressure they were unable to generate last year , making the secondary( although still susceptable ) a better looking unit . Leaving a #1 draft pick that could be used to pickup a OL, CB, LB, or move up or down in the draft . I’m just saying , its not a bad scenario.

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 24, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

You kiddin

I like Kampman , just responding to sportsfan a little slow ( guess i should have used a ? )

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

I do want a defensive beast

but a guy who can make big plays like Spiller could change my opinion. We do need another offensive weapon after all

by zooker on Jan 23, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

My point exactly

 with the the defense tweeked for the better , then going after someone in another position offensively or defensively becomes an easier decision. It doesn’t have to be a DE or a DT just someone to fill a position of need thru FA that allows the decisions at other needs to be less stressful, depending on the way it looks like other teams wiil draft / aquire thru FA themselves . I would love to pick up Spillker in the draft although I don’t think he’ll be there when our pick comes. But say we get WIlfork ( for instance ) , then trading up or down to take someone who will be there becomes an easier decision .

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

and just

for the record i do think Kampman would a great pick up

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 23, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

hey!

Whats the likelyhood of us resigning brian williams? How’s he recovering? Spiller only if norwoods gone. And tho I dnt like it bcuz they take a while 2 develop, we gotta draft an end and hope he’s a certified beast. We lacked end pressure this year. Biermans cool but no patrick kerney yet. Like him and sid tho. Should definatly get cb in free agency. What cb’s will be available via free agency???

by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Jan 24, 2010 2:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

hey!

Whats the likelyhood of us resigning brian williams? How’s he recovering? Spiller only if norwoods gone. And tho I dnt like it bcuz they take a while 2 develop, we gotta draft an end and hope he’s a certified beast. We lacked end pressure this year. Biermans cool but no patrick kerney yet. Like him and sid tho. Should definatly get cb in free agency. What cb’s will be available via free agency???

by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Jan 24, 2010 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

hey!

Whats the likelyhood of us resigning brian williams? How’s he recovering? Spiller only if norwoods gone. And tho I dnt like it bcuz they take a while 2 develop, we gotta draft an end and hope he’s a certified beast. We lacked end pressure this year. Biermans cool but no patrick kerney yet. Like him and sid tho. Should definatly get cb in free agency. What cb’s will be available via free agency???

by DEMBIRDZCUZ! on Jan 24, 2010 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Almost all the mock drafts have Atl going CB or DL

That is OK but what is Jerry and Williams come back fully healthy ? Grimes / Williams isn’t bad for CB’s and our DLine played great down the stretch

Falcons run game is the same way – a need if Norwood and Turner not healthy, otherwise, not so much

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 24, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

as said before

we wouldn’t be in such a dire need of a CB if we picked up a proven DL . So far as Norwood , has he played a complete season , I like his speed but one bump and he’s usually down , might be time to put that money on someone w/ more stability .

by TRUBIRD1 on Jan 24, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i liked and agreed with

LetsGoFalcons the other day when he argued for spiller if he is available.
Also i wonder why no one is looking to shore up the offensive line. I worry about are we set and ready with the line and backups we have now.

by Funballad on Jan 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks Funballad

I don’t think it’s worth trading up to get Spiller, especially not without a second round pick. I can’t imagine the kind of deal it would take to get him.

As stated, my point was that if he was available, it would be hard for me to pass him up simply because we need a defender, because the guy is a special player. I’m not sure, based on limited information at this point, that any defender who would be available at that point would be a better value, though opinions obviously change as we learn more about each prospect approaching the draft.

I’m pumped for the offseason to kick into gear. Given the fact that a couple of solid acquisitions and key positions could prime us for a jump next year, I’m anxious to see what the Falcons do in Free Agency, as well as the draft. The “process” could reap some benefits next year if we sign a couple of guys who can step in and make plays on D, build quality depth with a good draft, and get some development and improvement out of our current roster.

by LetsGoFalcons on Jan 24, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sweet

Another elusive Norwood type that we can misuse…

Just take D.

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by iRonin on Jan 24, 2010 10:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

One thing I am sure of...

C.J. Spiller will NOT be in a Falcons uniform next year.

by mattlanta on Jan 25, 2010 1:26 AM EST reply actions  

I'm sure you're right

I like to cover my bases like Command & Conquer.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 25, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

nothing against spiller

but Jahvid best is a better running back. as a junior he had a horrible o line and had a freak concussion im sure everyone saw. for some reason i just don’t like spiller. if we are getting a BACKUP spell back Jahvid best is a much better fit he’s more dynamic, he’s faster, catches balls out of the backfield just as well, is also a great kick returner. Jeff Tedford, cals coach said the jahvid is FASTER then Desean jackson and thats pretty damn fast

by 4Ever Golden on Jan 25, 2010 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

I'd prefer Spiller

But then I think every Cal game I’ve seen (which is not very many) Best was hurt so I really haven’t seen him play. So to me he’s an unknown. Spiller on the other hand looks like a guy in the LeSean McCoy/Brian Westbrook Eric Metcalfemold who can do a little of everything – and he plays banged up

by zooker on Jan 25, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Jahvid Best is a phenom...

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by NaGaNole on Jan 25, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

if you had saw him play you would know were I'm coming from..

best is a chris johnson runner mixed with reggie bush, now is he injury prone? id say more freak injurys. best plays with heart and will do whatever it takes to win thats wh he seems to be abetter prospect in my eyes in the nfl you cant rely on talent alone.. if you wanna see him play i run a cal youtube channel this is his career vid its amazing.. .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hunx5sfx9rA

by 4Ever Golden on Jan 25, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm intensely amused at 0:23

I didn’t know DeCoud played on offense, too.

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by Zippo729 on Jan 25, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

never compair spiller to Harvin again, Harvins incredible

spiller will probably be an ACC bust. We need a better defense anyway especially in the secondary

by southman on Jan 25, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

You know, it's funny

Everyone told me Harvin was going to be a bust last season. I know this is a pipe dream at best, but it’s fun to talk about.

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by Dave Choate on Jan 25, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Harvin is incredible, but has chronic migraines.

Spiller is a similar type player on a much worse team.

It’s easy to be as good as Percy Harvin is when you have people like Tebow, Demps, Moody, Cooper all on the same offense. Don’t get me wrong, Harvin is a fantastic athlete, but he’s not so good that he’s never been seen before. There’s gonna be plenty of comparisons.

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by Zippo729 on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and that TE of theirs (who we should get if/when he goes pro)

That guy could be Gonzo Jr. He’s a heck of an athlete too.

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by Zippo729 on Jan 25, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

clemson isnt THAT bad

 i mean they played in the acc championship, and from what i remember they have a good not great o line

by 4Ever Golden on Jan 25, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

They're not an awful team

But in comparison to Florida, they’re much worse. Florida and Bama could take on anyone in the country right now, or rather, at their BCS level this past season.

The ACC just hasn’t been strong in football lately, but the fact that Spiller stands out on a decent team in a decent conference should still speak well about his ability.

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by Zippo729 on Jan 25, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

still if we lose norwood were gonna miss him more then people think and spiller or best would be great, right now spiller is a top 15 prospect while best is a round 2 because of injury but a homerun threat is always needed. i still think we should have drafted D jackson we didnt need to use all those picks for sam baker he would have slipped farther down

by 4Ever Golden on Jan 25, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I say we just get lucky and let Suh, Okung, Spiller, Berry or Haden fall to us

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 25, 2010 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Spiller's nice

… but being realistic we’re not gonna be able to get this guy. I like Noel Divine. Maybe he’ll be available.

by BiGdex on Feb 11, 2010 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

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