Pre-Season Open Thread: Atlanta Falcons vs. Baltimore Ravens
by Dave Choate on Sep 3, 2009 3:00 PM EDT
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This game is for the birds. Ha! Birds.
The best test of our young, dynamic offense will come today, when the Falcons take on a notoriously tough Baltimore Ravens defense. Our suddenly adept pass rushing defense will also be sorely tested against the Ravens hydra-like running back attack. The secondary, meanwhile, will have a chance to look pretty good against a group of average receivers, though prodigy quarterback Joe Flacco may well make them look better than they have any right to be.
I'll be looking at this as a tune-up for many starters, and a final chance for guys to prove they deserve a roster spot. This is also a critically important game for the secondary, which Thomas Dimitroff may not be done overhauling if they collectively fall on their face today. For a final pre-season game, there's a lot at stake.
But before I get all maudlin on you, let's hop into this week's game factoids.
What? Atlanta Falcons vs. Baltimore Ravens, 7:30 p.m. ET
Where? Georgia Dome, Atlanta, Georgia
Weather? A beer cloud drifting up from some sections of seats, otherwise mostly clear.
Fun Fact? This is the second week in a row we're re-uniting with an old star, albeit one that was only with the team for part of a season. Domonique Foxworth will try to make life miserable for the Falcons tonight.
Odds? I'd put the odds of a football game being played at 100%.
Foe? You've already been introduced, but please go check out Baltimore Beatdown. Bruce Raffel does a great job over there.
GO FALCONS! Let's take the Ravens out of the sky!
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Will be interesting to see if the first team offense gets much/if any work, but hopefully the D will show up better than last week. I think we are struggling with both run and pass, so last week we got aced by the pass, now we can try to work on that run.
Also, on the QBs, curious what everyone’s predictions are for the backups. Seems like Redman has to have the #2 spot after last week and after Shockley’s complete disaster against the Rams. Will be interesting to see Shock and JPW tonight and how they fare.
On WRs are we thinking either Booker or Ferguson is in, or both could be? Both looked great last week.
I'm not gonna be able to watch the game tonight
but very much plan to read this thread when it is all said and done with. Please fill it with very impulsive and emotional commentary, I look forward to the results.
Enjoy the game all, hopefully it will be an inisghtful one that will allow us to feel stupid for ever doubting the obnoxiously potent abilities of our coaching staff to fix mistakes in record time.
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
Won't be the same without you, buddy
But we will soldier on.
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I just realized comcast is showing the Titans game here in Chattanooga! It makes me sick when they show the Titans over the Falcons. I was a Falcon fan long before the Titans came to be! Oh well, look forward to reading the game thread.
Go Falcons!
Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Who was the old star last week?
And tonight I’m just looking for our starters and keý backups to stay healthy
by FLA_Falcon on Sep 3, 2009 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
one
of the chargers o-line men used to play for the falcons. sorry, to lazy to look up his name..
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope to see sidbury
get some more time on the field. i’m hoping he can develop quickly and positively impact the pass rush soon..!
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
Stupid Blackout
For some reason the game is blacked out up here in Chesapeake, VA on the MASN station. This makes absolutely no sense to me. ARRRGGGHHHH!
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Hello fellow falcon in Hampton roads
I am in Norfolk and angry I can’t get the game either.
by Chaos7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice to see 757 repping it here
I live in Durham, NC, but I’m from Virginia Beach and live there when I’m not here in grad school.
Anyone out there know....
where a link to the game is? Out-of-Stater not wanting to wait until replay tomorrow on NFL Network to see. I have DTV NFL Sunday ticket, and still cant see my team live.
..try justin.tv ..
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
woot!
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thomas brown on the return.
Falcons have 20 cuts to make this Saturday
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is this Baltimore’s first team d?
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions
Beck in gun, Williams makes the 1st down check in front of
CHRIS HOUSTON.
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Dome gets loud on 3rd down. Parmilay (sp) gets 7 on 3rd down.
Stop by J. Anderson.
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d allows
another 3rd and long
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions
Throw is caught by Williams, gain of 11 on 3rd and long
Chris Houston fails on the coverage. Sounding familiar?
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Beck throws deep, incomplete. Grimes on the coverage, had fistful of jersey.
Pass interference. Spot of the foul. Ravens knocking on the door.
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sigh
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i don’t even know what to say.. i was hoping to see some improvement
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i feel like i'm watching a replay of last week's game...
except at least that was one of the top 5 QB’s in the league ripping us apart. this is a second string QB who backs up a starting QB who shouldn’t be able to do this to us either.
i don’t see how we can go into the season with the starting secondary we have right now. this is nothing short of terrifying. i hope Dimitroff is on the phone with someone right now.
wow...
so THAT’s what getting pressure on a QB looks like
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
JPW unable to make his case on his first drive.
Maybe after the next Raven score, he’ll be better?
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think
its possible we look at mcallister?
No game on tv here on the west coast.....
Is the secondary looking as bad as last week? I see we are down 7 allready…
at this point...
i’m kind of changing my expectations for the season. i’m okay with taking a step back since we have a young defense and we’re rebuilding on that side of the ball. would love to get to 9-7 and make the playoffs, but i’m not so sure anymore…. but given that i think we’re on the right path, i’m okay with that.
on the other hand, after watching our D, my biggest fear is just that we’re going to embarrass ourselves game after game. i mean i’m watching this D and wondering how we win 5 games. taking THAT big a step back would be troubling.
Well, I'm back
And I see you’re all having loads of fun.
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D looks good up front
Biermann and Jerry getting it done.
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finally
a stop on 3rd down.
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
Even I can't put a sunny spin on this one
It’s John Freakin’ Beck, for the sake of Christmas.
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biermann
has been playing well this preseason no?
Yes indeed
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maybe
the defense goes through some growing pains at first but comes on strong around week 6 or 7?!
I think the trick is
Our defense was bad last year. If it’s still bad this year, at least we’ll have young players who have a chance to grow. In 2008, it was a mix of young and old.
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this is true
you think theres a chance that they are able to come into their own this year though?
by iloveroddywhite on Sep 3, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I think so
At least components of it will. I don’t think it’s going to be great in 2009, but we’re also not going to want to chew our own arms off.
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But...Butterworth!
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JPW scrambling
Like an egg.
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has he been able to throw a pass yet??
is this him or the receivers not getting seperation?
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Finn's the man
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well...
i don’t really mind if we don’t score at this point… i’m mostly just watching the D
also, one encouraging note on our D… our best player isn’t playing, so MAYBE that helps explain why the Ravens had no problem marching 91 yards
i know, sorry, just trying to find any silver lining i can to convince me i didn’t waste $1000 on season tickets this year. hahaha
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't worry
Take a deep breath, a hit of an illicit drug, and tell yourself it’s just the pre-season. It may or may not be true…but it’ll help.
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Player of the game is Thomas Brown!
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I have to wonder at this point...
and i know i’m preaching to the choir, but how does Jamal Anderson keep his starting job after watching this game??
Snelling strong like bull!
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I don't want to like Marty Booker
But he keeps producing. He’s one of the few fourth or fifth receivers I can think of that offer nothing on special teams.
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Nothing says excitement
Like a two-yard pass to Jason Rader.
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Let's make it a triple!
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Anyone recommend anything better
I am watching it on ESPN Gamecast. Games aren’t that exciting this way :(
Welcome to my life
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i found it here after looking the whole 1st half
http://linksadoor.com/live_tv/sports/3238.html
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Dumb question
But seeing as I am unable to see, is our first string defense still in there….well what I assume to be our first string
Gilbert smacks some fool to the ground
And there was much rejoicing.
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Nine pass attempts and 27 yards?
JPW must think he’s playing on a shorter field.
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He'll probably win the job at this point
Fast forward a year and hopefully he’s kicking butt.
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possible positive spin?
During the regular season our starting offense will maintain possession and work the clock. Our defensive schemes will be a little more confusing for opposing QBs. We still won’t be great on defense but it will allow us to win some shootouts
by FLA_Falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
thoughts on the first half?
i’m a little conflicted after this half… that first series made me nearly put a knife to my wrist, but the D looked great after that. is that good news, or am I being overly optimistic here?
well, here's the thing...
my opinion on the D is that one of two things happen:
1 – they are an embarrassment all year long and destroy the season
2 – they are just young and we’re watching the growing pains, and they start to gel and get better and better as the season goes on
i just wonder if maybe we’re watching a slight progression
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Option 2
But the problem is that our schedule is so dangerous at the front-end. If they gel too late our playoff chances will be shot.
I'm never honest with myself
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Not a bad half
Ravens have a good D, we’re playing JPW and the defense stiffened up a little bit. Not bad at all.
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Halftime discussion
Your favorite band?
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Excellent choice
They make my list, along with Muse, Pink Floyd, 2pac, Nas and Immortal Technique.
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Get off my lawn!
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So it can cut itself!
Argh, so many to choose from. The Jazz June, At The Drive-In, Pantera, Outkast, and on and on it goes.
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick
Cursive, Sparta, Bright Eyes, Interpol
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick
Sparta
Doesn’t count if you’ve already listed ATDI (j/k)
Elliott Smith, Hey Mercedes (Braid), Underoath, The Casket Lottery
Let's see
The Strokes, DJ Shadow, Jedi Mind Tricks, Keane.
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haha
And I almost threw in The Mars Volta too. I think they both count as they really are completely different than ATDI. DJ Shadow, nice Dave.
TV On The Radio, The Thermals, Paul Okenfold, Division Day
Oh, and one of my absolute favorites, Harbor Skyline.
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oh yeah...
Pink Floyd, absolutely. The Who, Led Zeppelin, Beatles, The Smiths would be on my list too. Unfortunately all my favorite bands have either broken up or are dead.
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I try to add fresh names so I don't get too depressed
MGMT’s a new addition to the list.
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The Killers...
one of the only current bands i like. Foo Fighters too. i try to be modern, but i just don’t like much that’s coming out these days
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I do like the Killers.
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Forgive Durden, or Guster
Two bands I am enjoying right now
If I was to make a CD of songs to drive around to
Guster’s “One Man Wrecking Machine” would make the cut easily.
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And again
I agree with you Dave, that and because my name is Dave too!
We Daves have to stick together
Except for Dave Shula. He can do his own thing.
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great choice
Matt & Kim is another great one.
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick
I don't have an absolute fave, but it's going to have to be Cannibal Corpse atop the list.
Then Napalm Death, Black Dahlia Murder, Through the Eyes of the Dead
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Just once
I’d like to see a death metal band with a name like “Pink and Purple Pony Flowers.”
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I could live with that
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There you go
He drilled Beck on that one.
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Really wish his penetration was better against first team lines though
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I think we should use him this way
He matches up against the other team’s weakest lineman all game long. I don’t care where he has to play to do it.
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true, but...
what’s encouraging is that Beck tore us apart on the first series, then we shut him down after that. maybe the D is starting to gel…
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think any QB can look good for one series
Let’s keep that in mind.
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Sup fellas?
Was it really that bad?? I missed the entire 1Q and about half of #2 – skimming thru comments, looks like more catches in front of Houston…
It didn't look great
But I think it was one putrid drive, more than anything.
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Another deep throw caught. ANOTHER DEEP THROW CAUGHT.
Wire on the coverage.
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To be fair
That’s Wire covering Demetrius Williams, who can flat out fly.
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But Dave
There are no handicaps in football. You do your job or you sit on the bench.
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biermann
with pressure yet again. he’s looking real good tonight.
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions
I am interested to hear more about biermann
I see him taking JA starting spot if he keeps up the effort you guys are talking about
you gotta feel good about the d against the run...
the d line is looking like they could be very good this year… and they’re young too. we seem to be able to completely shut down the run.
need more pass rush though.
dunno, but...
you gotta feel a little bad for him right now. he’s gotta wonder if he’s watching his job slip away
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
But has Shockley really had enough playing time? I kinda get the feeling that the organization might have turned on him.
Meh
I still only see 3 points… of course, Mularkey’s horizontal offense is probably not helping those stats.
his stats aren't amazing...
but he’s marching downfield better than Shockley has and is showing way more potential at the moment. add to this that he’s a rookie and Shockley is a 4th year vet and Shockley can’t be feeling super comfortable right now
by cheshire falcon on Sep 3, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm starting to think we'd be wise to go get another third QB
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If we have to have a serious discussion about the 3rd QB
Then we have bigger fish to fry. 3rd QB is just an emergency player and a developmental project at best….
I agree
But in case the unthinkable happens, I want to have a guy who isn’t going to embarrass himself out there. Maybe I’m concerned because they’ve been so visible in pre-season…
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2nd miss in 4 games
kind of strange for elam
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This offense is pretty blase
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Shockley warming up
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Someone's whiskey's been spiked with grumpy juice!
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that cheered me up
grumpy juice.. classic
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I aim to please
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If Shock craps out tonight
He’s done. If not, Mike Smith will have to at least ponder his options.
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Agreed.
What Shock does in the next 20 minutes or so will determine the 3rd spot QB race
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Short visit
Have a good one, man.
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Explanation
Had to help put the rug-rats to bed.
Plus, I’m not good with game threads – I can’t concentrate on the game. Dang all this modern technology… (I told you kids to get off my lawn!)
Dude. I listen to the game, read the liveblog here.
But during the season, be kinda hard to do that during home games.
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non-sense
Bluetooth + WiFi = techy goodness; especially what with all the nice new phones these days. If you can access the net through your phone, simply get you a bluetooth headset for your phone, go to whatever radio affiliate is covering the game, enjoy from the comfort of your freshly minted season ticket seat! If I’m not mistaken, Wes still calls Falcons games on 790thezone.
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and i have no idea why i used a hyphen
"This is America, if we can’t self-righteously look down on others and blame them for our faults, the commies win."-----Cormican on Bleeding Green Nation w/r/t fans overreacting to the Eagles signing of Michael Vick
I meant the liveblogging.
Which would be difficult, even from my LG Versa.
But if I had my laptop and could access WiFi, I’d love to liveTweet or Blog the games.
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by Adam Schultz on Sep 4, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Adios amigo!
Take care out there.
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Have you seen his video stream?
Dude is a nut.
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Not to say he isn't talented
And sometimes talent trumps all. I just don’t really believe he can stay out of trouble long enough to be a force.
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Marmalade jeebus
During the regular season, I might consider this a pitched battle. Right now, I’m calling it a snoozefest.
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That's pretty much average
Which, as a third quarterback, would be A-OK for now.
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The key to this is: 0 INTS versus Shock's 3. Also JPW has zero fumbles, even after being sacked. Shock as 1.
That’s 0 to 4 turnovers versus Shock.
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I was told there would be no math
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from @Atlanta_Falcons
JP Wilson’s numbers for entire preseason: saw action in 3 games, 19-27 for 135 yards, 0 TDs 0 INTs, 0 sacks, 0 fumbles, 81.6 QB rating
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The lack of turnovers is great
I don’t think JPW will ever be a big play guy, which is why he probably maxes out as a #2 QB. We’ll have to see what he does if he gets the job.
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That is why Nick Saben liked him at Alabama
He played enough to get the job done. And didn’t allow too many mistakes to lose games
Wilson wasn't the UA offense, but he worked WITHIN the offense for the better of the team.
Plus his leadership was unmatched.
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True
You can thank Glen Coffee for the offense
Coffee rocks my socks
He’s like Jason Snelling with a chance to start someday.
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But mostly Glen Coffee
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Yeah and um...
that Coffee fellow too….oh wait we said him already
I'm afraid to say it again...
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Just not a great offensive night for us
As usual, we’ll be talking a lot more about the defense.
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Who cares if we win/lose.
The real meaty stuff is in all the position battles tonight.
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I would just like to see the backups charge out and kick butt
Make the decision easy.
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Don't know if I want a winning preseason record.
I read that article the other day. Keep in Shockley and put the nail in the coffin.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
A little superstitious you are
but, yeah if you go with that idea in your head than you would assume we aren’t going to finally have two winning seasons in a row
I hope you read that article too
I am looking at the stats and I notice all our young guys have the most tackles
Biermann, Jerry, Lofton
Sounds good to know we picked up good guys
Bam!
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Either we've faced some great backup QBs
or our secondary is clinically dead.
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I'm going with the latter.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Damn!
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Owens got buuuurned
That’s a tough play to give up.
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Baltimore with a Touchdown by Riley!
It’s official. Comrade Dimitroff has a very tough job the next week.
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This sucks
I can read the sadness coming off your comments as I am unable to view this disaster
You lucky, lucky man.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
We haven't seen what Tye Hill can do yet
It may be too early to put a stake in the secondary, but I’d be surprised if Dimitroff doesn’t make some kind of move.
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another int by shockley
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
It does seem that no one can catch Shockley's throws.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
Except the other team.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
lol
nice comeback on yourself
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by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Alas, poor Shock
I knew him well.
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Shock's Stats: QB Rating 12.0, 10/26, 109 yds, 3 INTs, 1 FUMBLE, 0 TDs
JPW has probably just beaten Shock.
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Stay Positive
I am interested to hear what moves we make with the defense
I hope we have things to unveil against the Dolphins.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
We do. Tony Gonzo told Wes and Arch such on the sideline.
Dont’ worry, we haven’t seen the best of our team.
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by Adam Schultz on Sep 3, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm heading out of work in a minute
So I’m going to leave this game behind, as well. Have a good night, everyone.
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Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the tix Tloz....
I left at halftime so I can make work in the AM. Pretty good view of the game from your seats
Welcome dude.
Glad you could see. Shame it was such a…nongame lol
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by Adam Schultz on Sep 3, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
night all
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Sep 3, 2009 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Tough loss guys
Hope your roster cuts are clearer, as that was the main reason for this game anyhow. My Ravens went 4-0 this pre-season but so did the Detroit Lions last season and we all know what they did in the regular season! Anyway, our Ravens have ben lights out, especially on defense this pre-season and hope it extends to the regular season as well. Flacco has been pretty solid as well. We have some tough decisions on the last few roster spots and a lot of teams will be looking to pick over our cuts on defense.
Good luck to your Falcons and here’s to a great sophomore year for both Flacco and Ryan!
aka 'Rexx'
Thanks for the well wishes. Same to you.
If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.
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