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A Very Falcoholic Discussion: So, What Now?

Disaster has, it seems, struck the Falcons only a few short days into training camp. Yesterday afternoon, Harry Douglas fell to the ground and did not get back up. Even when helped to his feet by a teammate, it is reported that HD fell back down. That alone made my heart sink, for I knew then it was a serious, possibly season ending injury. Rumors then surfaced via ESPN Analyst Adam Schefter's (@Adam_Schefter) Twitter account that HD is gone for the entire season with a torn ACL. While that rumor has yet to be confirmed, I think Harry's inability to leave the practice field on his own two legs should be evidence enough that we've lost what we all expected to be a key player in this season's receiving and returning corps.

It's definitely not time to break out the black arm bands and begin bemoaning this season a lost cause. I am not, however, about to kid myself that everything is just peachy keen. White continues his holdout for a new contract. I applaud his efforts to get a larger paycheck, but not having him at training camp is disheartening. I'd rather see him preparing for the season than fighting over more money .


With both White and a promising Harry Douglas missing camp, who do the Falcons turn to now? The Atlanta Falcons organization as a whole seems high with an apparently rejuvenated (and bionic-kneed) Brian Finneran. Finn will certainly see a lot more first team drills in the next few days. Michael Jenkins, key ingredient to our last second win over Chicago last year, will also likely be lining up in a different spot in the coming weeks.

Finn and Jenkins give us two solid, experienced receivers for Matty Ice to throw to in camp, but who'll be waiting in the wings for their shots at glory? As reported yesterday, we've let go of WR Dicky Lyons within twenty-four hours of signing him. Aaron Kelly, Eric Weems, Troy Bergeron, Chandler Williams, Darren Moughey, and Bradon Godfrey will all be fighting for a chance to see a first team route or two now that HD is (likely) down. Weems saw a tiny bit of action last year, so that gives him a bit of a feather in his helmet, so to speak.

The question remains: What now? Do we pray for an epiphany with a rookie or peruse the FA market and take a risk on a proven, but one-and-done veteran? Does this loss mean that Tony G will inevitably see more receptions than previously expected? What say you, dear readers?

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Not really

I mean, no disrespect, but he is our third WR option, putting him somewhere around the fifth or sixth option in the offense. Does it hurt in the grand scheme of things? Of course it does, but it’s most definitely not enough to start with the doom and gloom for this season. This is by no means anywhere as close as to when Vick went down.

If anything, this gives us a chance to get our depth at the position some valuable PT, regardless if they actually see the ball or not. Any receptions that HD would have likely gotten this year will now be split up between Finn, TG, and Norwood, and it’s not like Finn has ever been a bad WR, just a hurt one. (Plus, Finn is a modern day Radd Spencer!)

So, no, I don’t think it’s time to start forming mass vigils and depression support groups just yet. Just think, it could have easily been White had he been in camp instead of holding out.

by Jesse28 on Aug 6, 2009 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to agree

It’s not the best news, but it could have been worse. I’m not concerned about offensive production. We’ve got weapons at our disposal. I am concerned as we have lost our starting punt returner for the year, which is never, ever a good thing.

by LetsGoFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 7:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I have to agree

It’s not the best news, but it could have been worse. I’m not concerned about offensive production. We’ve got weapons at our disposal. I am concerned as we have lost our starting punt returner for the year, which is never, ever a good thing.

by LetsGoFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 7:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

THis is exactly what i expected to happen.

This has happened to us in past seasons…and I expect more to go down. I am a pessimist for a reason, and this just reconfirms all my negatvie thoughts that I have previously had.

New Orleans Hornets: The most inconsistent team in the NBA.

by Grayson on Aug 6, 2009 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

So as a pessimist...

…do you naturally expect to receive the blame for jinxing Harry? If so, cool! I thought it was my fault.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on Aug 6, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I was drinking my coffee this morning

expecting to get on the AJC website and see Roddy White’s smiling face reporting to training camp. Instead I saw that an electrifying player blew a knee and that White’s contract negotiations have stalled. Bad morning.

To be quite honest I’m not sure how I feel about our receiving core now. It was a position that I considered a strength, but in light of the White hold out and HD looking to become the next Bionic Commando I’m a little nervous. Bergeron has shown he is explosive on a short field, but we’ll see if that will translate to the big times.

Roddy needs to get into camp ASAP. Your team needs you!

"If you can’t get excited for Ryan throwing to Gonzalez, you’re either a robot or clinically dead. Or you’re a zombie robot, which is just plain awesome."
Dave the Falconer

by Pregame with Pabst on Aug 6, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I'd like to see C Jackson returning punts...

I think he’d do great at it…

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Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Aug 6, 2009 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

We should be ok

I think we’ll be ok this gives one of our younger players a chance to step up and shine, Jenkins is productive and we have futureHOF te Gonzalez as well, maybe this means that Turner will be catching more out of the back field? I feel like letsgofalcons, us missing our punt returner will hurt us.

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T.S. Eliot "The Wasteland"

by YoungWolf on Aug 6, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

the thing that hurts

is HD IS one of our young guys that was supposed to shine this season

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

not good

Offense goes from an A+ to an A, assuming Roddy plays.

by nathan rothschild on Aug 6, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

hmmm...

more like a solid A+ to a questionable one… I don’t think that it is enough to drop our offense a notch, but it is definitely enough to hurt our Special Teams….

damn I was looking forward to seeing him in 3WR sets, he was the kind of WR that had to be taken account for because he was going to get massive yards after catch if his hands found the ball… we don’t have that in the rest of our 3rd string possibilities – Finn will make the for sure catch, but probably not be able to turn it into much more than that.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he doesn't need to

Finn has a very high 1st down rate, so just by catching it he is already doing something extremely productive from it. Dude is money on 3rd down.

by Jesse28 on Aug 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Finn had a high first down rate

but he hasn’t played in an actual game for 2+ years. I’ll have to see him in the real season to know if he’s back to what he was.

If I had a nickel for everytime someone told me I should shutup, I'd probably have 5 or 6 bucks.

by pchaucer on Aug 6, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what you mean...

He played in every game last season. Didn’t see the ball a lot, but he performed well when called upon.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

BIG CONCERNS

When I saw this news I was just extremly nervous… Its never a good thing to lose a such young & dynamic player! It will really hurt us in special team more than in offense.
As it mentioned previously we had some great weapons all around our offense but by now, in trainig camp, his absence plus Roddy’s holdout doesn’t help Ryan to develop…

To replace him I see a combination of players, i hope Aaron Kelly & Bergeron will make it well. Why not trying Jackson in Punt return as well?

Please Mr White, its time for you to report in training camp! Ryan needs you, Offense needs you, the whole team needs you, & we, fans, need you !!!!!!!!

by 14tibo on Aug 6, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

my thoughts exactly on special teams

ridding ourselves of Adam Jennings who is < poo was the first step in the right direction in redefining our returning corps, and after HD finally remedied himself of his jitters (reffering to the dropped punt in the Chargers game) he seemed like a solid answer in the return game… now we are back to the guessing game on who is going to be a dependable and explosive punt returner… and this is assuming that there is another one of his caliber and whoever it is will probably have to experience a rough learning curve, similar to the one that Douglas had.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Opportunity in Crisis...

Look – there is no denying that this is a blow to our team. HD was a promising talent at WR, and he was an explosive punt returner. Best of luck on your recovery Harry.

As much as I love White and acknowledge that he’s an incredible asset to our team, I’m proud of Dimitroff for standing firm. I think it is incumbent on White to fulfill his contractual obligation. My only concern is that he will begrudgingly come back to camp and somehow sabotage the team (most likely by being passively disgruntled). He’s put himself in the position to where he is now going to be defensive and angry because things didn’t go his way during negotiations. I would think very highly of him if he was able to put all of this behind him, play the season, and go for the big bucks after this year, when his contract expires. That would demonstrate a great deal of maturity and character.

Opportunity: Who will fill the void? We’ve got a lot of guys who will be working very hard to fill HD’s roster spot (and possibly White’s spot – at least during training camp). I believe that if some of these guys are given the opportunity to get some reps with the first team, they will grow quickly and be given the opportunity to shine. Just because you weren’t selected in the top three rounds of the draft doesn’t mean you won’t amount to anything – just ask 7th round pick Marques Colston. Now, I don’t know much about these guys, but I am confidant that one of them will rise to the occasion, and I boldly predict that one of these guys (I’m betting Aaron Kelly) will become a star. They are in the perfect environment with all the tools to succeed, and I have no doubt that they will.

As for punt returner, I think that HD’s injury is quite possibly Thomas Brown’s ticket to a position on the roster. This might be bad news for Snelling, who I like a lot. Alternatively, I sense that Troy Bergeron may have the opportunity to take this role as well (which means we’ll be seeing a lot more of his mouse-raping-star tattoo (see Orang3b’s comment).

Lastly, I think that Finn and Jenkins are both solid. They’re both tall, as are Tony G and Aaron Kelly. Ryan can just put the ball high to any one of them – especially in the red zone. This may also give us more opportunity to throw the ball to Norwood out of the backfield where I think he’s more effective than he is running between the tackles.

This is a test of our teams strength, determination, and grit. I believe they have those characteristics in spades.

If you agree with me (at least mostly), please feel free to recommend this comment!

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

sure... we have plenty of tall receivers to replace him

but his speed is something that isn’t commonplace on our available receiving corps. With the exception of Roddy, he was our fastest receiver. Sure Jenkins, Finn, and Kelly have the height to compensate, but his speed is what made him such an asset.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Possession receivers...

You are right that Roddy possesses a speed that isn’t commonplace. IMO, speed usually gets you behind defenders on long routes. However, I don’t see bombs as one of Ryan’s current strengths – he’s more of a precision passer.

I think we just need to move the chains. We don’t need 60 yard receptions. Especially with a young/inexperienced defense, we’ll want our drives to be long – keeping our D off the field.

Obviously, White is a huge asset to our team. I just don’t think we should be held hostage by him. We may need some of that dough/cap room to lock up some of our other contributors.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

His first pass was a 60 yarder...

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Aug 6, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, to Jenkins.

I guess I’m referring to the bombs – like the one he threw to White against KC (the one game I missed last year). The ones that were completed, other than that one, were typically – dare I say it – under thrown and were jump balls.

Anyways – my point isn’t that 60 yard receptions aren’t good. I’m just saying we’ll be fine as long as we can move the chains steadily and consistently.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

It was only about 15-20, Jenkins picked up the rest after the catch.

by Jesse28 on Aug 6, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Details....

lol

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Aug 6, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok,

We have
Roddy (Assuming his immature negotiations stop), Gonzo, Jenkins, Finn…
All are… credible, and proven to be able to get it done, but not as good as HD in the depth chart, but theyll be able to get it done…
Does this mean another 370 year for Turner?
Who will return punts?

I agree to Nathan, Offense goes from A+ to an A…

by FlyYouFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Another 370 carry year for Turner would be dangerous.

The injury beast is waking up. Let’s not jeopardize our top runner.

You have opinions. Share them.

by Adam Schultz on Aug 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bring back Michael Vick

I know, I see a million darts coming at me, but, not only does Michael Vick have the skills as a solid backup and potential starting QB, but with his speed, he can be a receiver too!

by MelodyM on Aug 6, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

As long as Matt Ryan is upright and healthy

Vick would never be considered a potential starting QB for this team.

But I do like the idea of having him as a receiver. As long as he could catch, he could be very dynamic in open field.

You have opinions. Share them.

by Adam Schultz on Aug 6, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like that about as much as I like swallowing glass...

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Aug 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

He couldn’t throw, what makes you think he could catch? jk

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

but it does mean

he’ll try

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh,

There’s more to being an NFL receiver than running fast and catching. Namely, running routes. I don’t know if he’s ever done that in oranized football in his life. Heck, I’m not even sure he knew the WR’s routes when he was the QB…

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

the WR talks all started

because he played some WR in high school before he was a QB.

I do agree that he doesn’t belong anywhere in football other than a backup QB who might split snaps or line up next to a starting QB on some plays. He should never be trusted to lead a team.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he deserves a chance

….just not leading OUR team!

I would not be surprised if he gets passed up by everyone, but as soon as the injury bug bites a QB, his phone will be a ringin’

by skigator93 on Aug 6, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

For all the high praise coming out of camp, HD only had 39 targets last year. With Tony G around now, I figure there’s no way he was going to get more than 50 targets this year. That’s only 3 a game (targets, not receptions). It’s certainly not going to break the offense.

I agree with Jesse that Finn will probably be a little more involved now, plus Norwood (I highly doubt it will be Turner, with only 17 receptions in his whole career). They’ll give a serious shot to Kelly, Bergeron (especially with his return ability), Williams, and Weems…

If the team thinks they need a FA to help this group out, I’d think they’d have to wait until roster cuts at the beginning of September. I’m not too excited about any of the guys available right now.

By the way, the team confirmed he is out for the year.

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

What about the long term?

HD isn’t the fastest guy but he is a very shifty runner. I’m a little more concerned about his future after this injury than I am about our offense this year

by FLA_Falcon on Aug 6, 2009 10:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Thats exactly what I was just thinking.

Im begining to imagine that he would lose a step, or would be oft-injured…
Or both…

by FlyYouFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

but Finn

isn’t the elusive receiver that HD is… I don’t see him coming back the same receiver he was… I forsee another LRob story happening

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I hear dead people have really strong tendons, so anyone willing to sacrifice for the greater good?

by Jesse28 on Aug 6, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why

Oft-injured? A lot of guys that come back from ACL’s now say that their knee feels stronger than before… And as long as he was kept in the “slot” role, he’d only have to be faster than A) Linebackers, B) Safeties, or C) the #3 Cornerbacks. I’ll think he’ll be fine when he comes back.

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well Im pretty much thinking of

The worse possible thing besides an early retirement.

by FlyYouFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about the long term?

HD isn’t the fastest guy but he is a very shifty runner. I’m a little more concerned about his future after this injury than I am about our offense this year

by FLA_Falcon on Aug 6, 2009 11:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

...and let Davis take some carries..?

Hmmmmmmmmm

I have six locks on my door all in a row. When I go out, I only lock every other one. I figure no matter how long somebody stands there picking the locks, they are always locking three.

Elayne Boosler

by NaGaNole on Aug 6, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

its not that bad

tb probably was going to be punt returner anyway because of his abilaty to break tackles and i think we should try norwood at wide out we might even be able to bring him back next year since he would be a starter sorry hd but i love the possibilitys he wasnt any where near a big impact player and i guess we can say bye to jason snellings since tb is pretty much on the roster now

by mistab50 on Aug 6, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

agreed with mistab50...

look, when i saw this yesterday, i was as horrified as everyone else… but the more i think about it, this is hardly the death knell to our season that everyone is making it out to be. i mean, we’re talking about our #3 receiver here guys. and yes, i think he’s going to be awesome down the road, but if our team lives and dies by what happens to it’s #3 receiver, then we’re not built very well. we have Finneran who can step in, and we have no idea what the other receivers could do, not to mention what TD might pull out of the free agent market if he deems it necessary (Marvin Harrison maybe?)… and by the way, we did sign a guy named Tony Gonzalez who is probably going to be taking a lot of the receptions that Douglas would be getting anyways, so the need for a great 3rd receiver isn’t quite as critical as it was last year. yes, he returns punts as well, but he didn’t even do that all of last year and we had a pretty good season.

i think the reason we’re all freaking out is because we’re bitter Falcons fans who have endured one year after another of heartbreak since, well, the 1960’s… so it’s understandable we take every bit of news and blow it out of proportion. but i think we need to relax and keep things in perspective here.

by cheshire falcon on Aug 6, 2009 11:46 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Me thinks

That most of the worry is driven not solely on HD being out for the year, but that we have a hold out happening with our #1 WR as well. Those two things combined do make a large difference in the offense. But as I stated at the top, this one incident to our #3 WR means hardly scratch. We run a lot of two TE sets and we have plenty of options available to overcome the 40 or so looks he would get all season anyways.

So, on a macro level, this means nothing other than we lose at worst a very talented, fast wildcard on offense and in the return game, or at best a little used position that isn’t a major part of the offense to begin with.

by Jesse28 on Aug 6, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daggonit

I been away too long. Here I come find bad news like this I sure hope white signs fast….or at least shows in training camp as a good faith showing.

by Funballad on Aug 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

What about the long term?

HD isn’t the fastest guy but he is a very shifty runner. I’m a little more concerned about his future after this injury than I am about our offense this year

by FLA_Falcon on Aug 6, 2009 12:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

My apologies

For the multiple posts. It kept telling me there was a communication failure, I didn’t see that the comment had went up

by FLA_Falcon on Aug 6, 2009 12:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

not that this is good by any means but

the touches he would get should go to Tony and/or Norwood which I have no problem with at all, like the rest of you though I was excited to watch HD break out this year

by gritzblitz on Aug 6, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

question

quote from Mark Bradley on AJC.com:

“I can reliably inform you that the Falcons expect to have some news regarding their wide receiver position within the next couple of hours. (And no, it doesn’t involve Roddy White. It involves some free agents.)”

anyone have any insight into what this news might be or who it may involve?

by cheshire falcon on Aug 6, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

according to NFL.com
The Falcons plan to sign at least one of three free agents who worked out for the team Thursday morning

The article is mainly about Douglas injury and White’s holdout, but that was mentioned. You can read the full article here

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by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah... that's what i was wondering

i wonder why it’s so secretive… i guess that either means it’s someone we’ve never heard of so it’s not worth mentioning, or it’s someone who would make a big enough splash that they’re trying to keep it under wraps for now.

or maybe the media just hasn’t had access to find out yet, who knows.

by cheshire falcon on Aug 6, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't bear the excitement...

Who’s it gonna be – Mark Bradley says that D. Orlando Ledbetter will have some info soon. As much as I am for high character guys, I find myself wishing for Matt Jones (assuming he stays out of trouble and isn’t a sociopath). I think I need to calm down. This has just been a bad day of news for us Falcons fans.

Think happy thoughts. Matt Ryan is an Atlanta Falcon. Okay, I’m better now.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be 100% Ok great with Matt Jones.

As long as Mike does the right thing, let himd do be better be on good behavior on and off the field, and unerstand that if he screws up again, he wont have a career in the NFL.

Also Ive been a slight fan of Jones for some reason…Same with MJD….

by FlyYouFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also would like to see Matt Jones as a Falcon

and in the same breath, I’d like to see that our coaching staff is capable of reforming players in a similar fashion that NE has proved capable of…

I am with you Tom… I could use some crazy news to celebrate about at the moment.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

First one to post the ID...

of the newest Falcon(s) will get their comment turned green! As long as it’s true, that is.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Kelly in the slot

what about FAs? Harrison is out there…

http://www.nfl.com/freeagency#players-tab-set-1:players-grid-container-position/players-list-links-position:pos-wr

by nathan rothschild on Aug 6, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Matt Jones, Marvin Harrison...,?

Those are the only OK WRs in FA that come to my head… ANd theyre both having legal woes..

by FlyYouFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

How’s Aaron Kelley looking in camp??? He may be a sleeper. Did he build up any muscle in the offseason on that tall lanky frank?

by Jon Cushman on Aug 6, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I wouldnt MIND Aaron...

But the thing is…
I have doubts and concerns

by FlyYouFalcons on Aug 6, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That Laurent Robinson trade

in’t looking too good right now

by zooker on Aug 6, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha

I hear Crabtree hasn’t signed yet, maybe we do a sign-and-trade with the Niners!

by Jesse28 on Aug 6, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas Brown

Our new slot receiver?!?! Defintiely our new punt returner, assuming HD is out….right?

by skigator93 on Aug 6, 2009 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

according to the website

they are trying out Norwood, Weems, and Chandler as punt returners at the moment… still hardly any mention of Brown during camp… maybe they are just keeping his name on the downlow as a secret weapon. One can only hope.

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by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes...

and Burgy is hoping to get noticed too.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Please rec since I promised to turn him green. Thank you berry munch.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec #2

thanks for the quick post – I’ve been waiting on this news all day… sounds like he at least has some experience. The Falcons might be able to get something out of him.

Ferguson, 6-foot-1, 209 pounds has played in 83 games with 34 starts. He had 151 career catches for 1,993 yards and 13 touchdowns.

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by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ferguson

Only had 3 receptions last year in Minny, and was buried on the depth chart (he only played in one game after their bye week). Whether that was injury or ineffectiveness, I do not know. 2007 he had 32 receptions, though. I certainly think he has more of a chance to contribute than Marvin Harrison, for instance…

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Upon further inspection

He’s definitely just “a guy”. The last (and only) time he was good was 2003. Since then his DVOA (value over average) has been negative, and his Catch Rate right around 50%.

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a Guy

I look at our receiving core and while catching is incredibly important (they are receivers after all) Run Blocking is a highly valued skill for this group. I’m assuming that he has that skill in abundance and will roll some DBs.

"If you can’t get excited for Ryan throwing to Gonzalez, you’re either a robot or clinically dead. Or you’re a zombie robot, which is just plain awesome."
Dave the Falconer

by Pregame with Pabst on Aug 6, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good point, and I have no idea about that one…

by orang3b on Aug 6, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know anything about this guy??

i’m getting used to the Falcons signing or drafting the guy i’ve never heard of (not necessarily a bad thing)… they worked out Ike Hilliard too and liked Ferguson more, so hopefully this is a good fit.

by cheshire falcon on Aug 6, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember when he was supposed to be the next best thing for Green Bay

Jennings surpassed him, but I believe he is athletic – I like this pick a lot. I guess compare him to Jenkins

by nathan rothschild on Aug 6, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Falcons safety William Moore, the team’s second-round draft pick this year, had a "procedure" on his left knee and is expected to miss one to four weeks, according to Falcons coach Mike Smith.

Here is the article from AJC

Seriously… WHAT THE HELL is with today?!?

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

no kidding

I was hoping he’d win the job at safety. Fat chance now.

by nathan rothschild on Aug 6, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

F

This SUCKS. However, I’m with Pregame with Pabst on this one – I have great faith in DeCoud. It’s been looking like he had the edge anyways, so perhaps Moore can take some time to recover from his injury, learn the play book a little better, and ease back in. This isn’t devastating.

by TomQ on Aug 6, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

On an entirely unrelated note.

MIA – your Matty Ice can is spectacular.

"If you can’t get excited for Ryan throwing to Gonzalez, you’re either a robot or clinically dead. Or you’re a zombie robot, which is just plain awesome."
Dave the Falconer

by Pregame with Pabst on Aug 6, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have faith in DeCoud

He has show a great deal of promise in camp. We should be alright.

"If you can’t get excited for Ryan throwing to Gonzalez, you’re either a robot or clinically dead. Or you’re a zombie robot, which is just plain awesome."
Dave the Falconer

by Pregame with Pabst on Aug 6, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree DeCoud should be our starter

and I’ve thought that from the start… but Moore was a steal for the second round and I was hoping for him to have an accelerated development time so he could start being a surprise element on our defense sooner rather than later.

this also means he won’t get to develop during preseason and his first snap is going to be in an actual game that actually matters.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

lord, this is so typical… as soon as i get excited about the Falcons and plunk down $1,000 for season tickets, we start getting hurt all over the place. amazing. the last time i got season tickets, i’m sitting at the first preseason game and get there just in time to watch Mike Vick break his foot.

now, having said that, at least with Moore we’ll have him back by the start of the season. i mean if that “1 to 4 week” thing is right, we might have him back next week. so this isn’t season threatening or anything.

but it makes me nervous since (a.) injuries tend to just start hitting like the plague and (b.) i have a strong belief that the Falcons are a cursed team that are more susceptible than most teams to these ridiculously cruel twists of fate. i know, call me superstitious, i’m just saying…

by cheshire falcon on Aug 6, 2009 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

for the sake of the fanbase

quit buying season tickets

lol – I keed, I keed… well… only a little bit.

But you are right, it isn’t the end of the world. I just would like for all our guys to be healthy and in camp (*cough*this include you Roddy*cough*) so they can develop and create chemistry with eachother.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Aug 6, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed...

not the end of the world, and this Moore thing may not even have any impact at all. i just HATE when stuff like this starts happening. it makes it tougher and tougher to get excited about the season when everytime you click on espn.com there’s just more horrible news.

by the way, what the hell are these guys doing in training camp? geez, maybe we need to scale these things back a little bit. if we’re going to start losing players, i’d at least like it to be inflicted by teams other than our own.

by cheshire falcon on Aug 6, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it makes you feel better

I first invested in Season tickets when MV7 decided to take a vacation in VA courtesy of the Federal Court system. Then was rewarded with one of the greatest seasons i’ve ever seen. You gotta have faith.

"If you can’t get excited for Ryan throwing to Gonzalez, you’re either a robot or clinically dead. Or you’re a zombie robot, which is just plain awesome."
Dave the Falconer

by Pregame with Pabst on Aug 6, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

this will NOT...

hurt the falcons one bit on the offensive side of the football, we have gonzo now so he’ll make up for douglas’s receptions, plus that just puts Finn at the #3 receiver slot, with bergeron, and now ferguson backing them up. The return game I dare say WILL be affected by this injury, However, we may get lucky with brown or bergeron being our returners, I like both of them because they can both be very exciting every time they touch the ball. Knock on wood but I won’t be worried to much about injuries until I hear names like ryan, turner, abraham, etc… lol, we had a very good injury free season last year,lets all hope we don’t overpay for it this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
L-DAWG

by ATLsince1972 on Aug 6, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

trade

roddy for two wideouts. just let this guy go.

by ca$hmere36 on Aug 7, 2009 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Man Up, Roddy !!!!

ok….is it just me or does everyone get tired of seeing athletes make the Pro Bowl and suddenly be ‘too good’ to honor their signed contracts? It seems that probably their buddies or ‘entourages’ get into their ears n tell them how wonderful they are and how theyre being ‘dissed’ by their employers. Cmon Roddy…man up…honor YOUR contract….get your ass into camp…and show us that youre not becoming another T.O. wannabe. If youre as good as you say you are….your payday will come next year…..bigtime. Also…what do you think would happen if he had had an off year…with his return to form of dropping key passes, not blocking….etc,etc……and the Falcons had wanted to renegotiate his contract DOWNWARD to reflect his performance?….He’d scream long n loud about having to ’honor their contract !!!!! Seems pretty 1 sided to me !!!!

by Hammer 56 on Aug 7, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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