Vote for the Greatest Falcons C of All Time
by Adam Schultz on Jul 7, 2009 12:00 PM EDT
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PrintAs Ms. Zombie Robot just told you, it's time to vote for the greatest Center in all of Falcons' history. Only three candidates were named. Follow the jump for a rundown of the currently nominated offensive linemen. We still need at least two left guards on the list. Otherwise, the two nominated RGs will be auto-inducted and I'll just shift one over to LG.
| Candidate | Pos | Years as a Falcon | Pro Bowls | 1st Team All Pro |
| Todd Weiner | RT | 7 | 0 | 0 |
| George Kunz | RT | 6 | 5 | 0 |
| RC Thielemann | RG | 8 | 3 | 1 |
| Bill Fralic | RG | 8 | 4 | 2 |
| Jeff Van Note | C | 18 | 5 | 0 |
| Jamie Dukes | C | 8 | 0 | 0 |
| Todd McClure | C | 9 | 0 | 0 |
| Bob Whitfield | LT | 12 | 1 | 0 |
| Mike Kenn | LT | 17 | 5 | 2 |
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I think ...
Van Note is clearly the front runner. 18 yrs in the league, all of them w/ the Birds, not to mention the fact that he was originally drafted (in the 11th rd mind you) to be an LB and, perhaps more importantly, his middle name is Aloysius.
Not only is he the greatest C in Falcons history, he’s a more-than-deserving Hall of Fame candidate.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
here ya go
just some names to look over, i know next to nothing on any of these guys but ya’ll might and this can get some names for us to vote on
Bill Sandeman 67-73 OT
Dave Scott 76-82 OG
Warren Bryant 77-84 OT
Pat Howell 79-83 OG
Houston Hoover(has to be one of the best names) 88-92 OG
Gene Williams 95-99 OG
Ephraim Salaam 98-01 OT(ok he only played 4 yrs, so what I liked the guy you wanna fight about it?)
looking through our rosters, we don’t have alot of guys who even qualify so the pickings are slim
forgot
Warren Bryant seems to me the only legitimate one to put on a “all-time” list but like i said i really have no clue
Gotta be Van Note
And I’ve got a few more names for nomination:
John Scully – in ATL 9 years; 7 as starter (5 LG, 2 RG); looks like he struggled with injuries
Robbie Tobeck – in ATL 6 years; 5 as starter (3 LG, 2 C); went to the Pro Bowl as a Center for Seattle after his time here
Kynan Forney – started at RG for 7 years; pretty good compared to the constant changes over the years
Or you could legitimately put Fralic at RG and slide Thielemann over to LG (he started on the left side in ’83 and ’84).
One fun note: Check out Lou Kirouac – he apparently was the Kicker in ’66 and started at Left Guard in ’67…
I respect Forney ...
but I think you’d have to give it to Fralic/Thielemann. Forney was a pro bowl alternate in ‘05, but that single accomplishment pales in comparison to Fralic/Thielemann’s combined 7 trips to the pro bowl. I mean, you could argue that Forney was overlooked at some point, but … well, I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel right.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
On further reflection ...
Forney sacrificed a lot over the day. To quote an article that Dave wrote in 2007:
Forney’s been a good guard for the team since he was drafted. He weathered the changeover from bulky to small and back again, and with any luck he’ll still be on the line next year.
See … that, like McClure’s surgery/subsequent return last season, earns my respect. I just can’t get past the difference in formal recognition between Forney and Fralic/Thielemann.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
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Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
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I know this is out of place but I just wanted to thank Vishnu and Dave and SBNation for finally allowing mobile commenting.
My iPhone has essentially replaced my laptop at this point and while I’ve still been reading I haven’t been contributing because of the lack of mobile commenting.
To those that love it, and those that hate it: I’m back.
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by iRonin on Jul 7, 2009 9:41 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nice to have you back.
Looking forward to watching Matty Ice and co. destroy the Bears with ya.
You have opinions. Share them.
by Adam Schultz on Jul 7, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You have no idea. I despise Bears fans almost as much as Panthers fans.
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Jul 8, 2009 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Glad we finally delivered
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Ahhhh!
I keed. I keed.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
Someone’s gotta keep you in check Wren ;-)
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Jul 8, 2009 6:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Indeed
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
Van Note all the way
yes sirrrr!!!!!!!!!
by dunndada77 on Jul 7, 2009 9:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
finally
The majority finally agrees with me on one of these. That speech agent thing is funny as hell by the way. first time I have seen it.
Life is a garden. Dig it!
Van Note all the way
yes sirrrr!!!!!!!!!
by dunndada77 on Jul 8, 2009 1:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Who was it?
I remember someone playing with a boxing glove on one year? It was taped up. Can anyone help me on this? Was it RC Thielemann?
I do like Warren Bryant also. He was solid!
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You guys are gonna be hearing from me a lot more now. Not participating in the greatest of all time votes tho. Only been truly following the Falcons since Vick got drafted. But I quickly became a Falcons fan instead of only being a Vick fan. Words can’t express how excited I am with the direction of this franchise after last year. I predicted 8-8 and all my friends thought I was crazy thinking we would win for than 5 games. I only see us getting better this year and even with the tough schedule if we stay fairly healthy as we did last year, the young defense steps up, and we catch a few lucky breaks I can see us going 12-4 this year and a possible superbowl run. I think TD & company feel the same. Why else would such a great draft evaluator trade a 2nd round pick for such a short term investment?
I apologize for being so off topic but being able to only read and never put my 2 cents in I’ve had a lot bottled up waiting to pour thru my thumbs onto the keyboard of my blackberry. Thanks to Dave tloz and all the other readers that all share their thoughts that make me enjoy reading the comments as much as reading the story. GREAT SITE FOR A GREAT TEAM!!!
by FLA_Falcon on Jul 8, 2009 5:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
This.
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Jul 8, 2009 6:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think jamie dukes should make the roster
he can play any postion on the line and since we are acting like were making a real team it
I voted for McClure
Sort of without thinking, but Van Note has pretty much everything on his side. McClure would draw consideration on a lot of teams in this league, I think, but oops.
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