I wanted to continue the discussion from Warlock's earlier post regarding the comparison between Turner and Norwood. In Warlock's post, he provided us a look into the numbers for both during the 08 season. I, however, would like to take a look at their numbers while being utilized in a similar role, that of a #2 RB option. So, without further ado...
Forgive me for not posting a nice pretty graph for you guys, but since I was compiling pure stats over the course of a few seasons worth of data, I felt like a simple side-by-side comparison table would suit us just fine. I went back and pulled basic stats for Turner while he played the role of a #2 RB, spanning the 05-07 seasons. I originally started off excluding his 04 rookie season because he was used so little, but as you will see in the table below, I ended up adding them in parentheses. I then compiled Norwood's numbers spanning the 06-08 seasons and basically just slapped them in side by side.
In this first table I have the numbers listed as totals across seasons. I also went back through Warlock's original post and tried to add in the same stats he listed.
|
Turner 05-07 (04-07) |
Stat |
Norwood 06-08 |
|
45 (59) |
G |
45 |
|
208 (228) |
ATT |
297 |
|
4.62 (3.86) |
ATT/G |
6.6 |
|
1153 (1257) |
YDS |
1735 |
|
5.54 (5.51) |
YDS/ATT |
5.8 |
|
25.62 (21.31) |
YDS/G |
38.6 |
|
6 (6) |
TD |
7 |
|
45 (49) |
1st |
74 |
|
21.6% (21.5%) |
1st % |
24.90% |
|
1 (1) |
FUM |
1 |
|
12.32% (9.35%) |
GAIN% |
13% |
|
192.17 (209.5) |
YDS/TD |
247.86 |
|
2.88% (2.63%) |
TD/ATT % |
2.36% |
|
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|
|
|
7 (11) |
REC |
76 |
|
63 (71) |
YDS |
717 |
|
9 (6.45) |
AVG |
9.4 |
|
1.4 (1.2) |
YDS/G |
15.9 |
|
0 (0) |
TD |
2 |
|
3 (3) |
1st |
28 |
|
0 (1) |
FUM |
0 |
In this next table, I've simply listed the numbers for each split by season.
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Turner |
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Year |
G |
Att |
Att/G |
Yds |
Avg |
Yds/G |
TD |
1st |
1st% |
FUM |
GAIN% |
YDS/TD |
TD/ATT % |
|
2007 |
16 |
71 |
4.4 |
316 |
4.5 |
19.8 |
1 |
10 |
14.1 |
1 |
27.89% |
316 |
1.41% |
|
2006 |
13 |
80 |
6.2 |
502 |
6.3 |
38.6 |
2 |
24 |
30 |
0 |
48.25% |
251 |
2.50% |
|
2005 |
16 |
57 |
3.6 |
335 |
5.9 |
20.9 |
3 |
11 |
19.3 |
0 |
36.67% |
111.67 |
5.26% |
|
2004 |
14 |
20 |
1.4 |
104 |
5.2 |
7.4 |
0 |
4 |
20 |
0 |
37% |
N/A |
0% |
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Norwood |
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Year |
G |
Att |
Att/G |
Yds |
Avg |
Yds/G |
TD |
1st |
1st% |
FUM |
GAIN% |
YDS/TD |
TD/ATT % |
|
2008 |
16 |
95 |
5.9 |
489 |
5.1 |
30.6 |
4 |
22 |
23.2 |
1 |
32.21% |
122.25 |
4.21% |
|
2007 |
15 |
103 |
6.9 |
613 |
6 |
40.9 |
1 |
25 |
24.3 |
0 |
39.71% |
613 |
0.97% |
|
2006 |
14 |
99 |
7.1 |
633 |
6.4 |
45.2 |
2 |
27 |
27.3 |
0 |
45.66% |
316.5 |
2.02% |
Now, when comparing between the two across a similar time-span and in a similar role, these are the pure numbers that you get. Obviously it would be very difficult to equalize them to account for differing offensive schemes and the play of the OL for both, but knowing those things does allow one to look at these numbers and be able to derive a better opinion of them. If you just want side-by-side number, well, there ya have em.
Conclusion? They are both very good backs and we are lucky that we have them both on our team while they are both entering their prime. If this is a problem, then it's most definitely a good one to have. They both put up good averages in limited roles for their teams. Neither have had any significant injury that has limited or hindered their level of play. And, looking back on it now, it would be my assumption that both can handle the feature back role if given the opportunity. I think Turner's numbers (less carries, less overall use) have proven that they do not clearly indicate if a back can move up to the feature role, but that his 08 performance has proven that he can. Maybe the same is for Norwood, but I don't want to be on the receiving end of it if he can. Lock him up please!
Your complaints, comments, and thoughts?


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