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Falcon Position Rankings: Quarterback

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via www3.allaroundphilly.com

Welcome to a new user-suggested feature, where we'll be taking brief looks at each position on the roster, handing out grades like candy and talking briefly about what fans can expect from the position. Because this is late May and early June, a lot may change, so be sure to take the roster predictions with a few grains of salt. It's good for your heart.

Today we tackle the position belonging to the least-contended starter on the roster, one Matt Ryan, who stole our hearts and made a fool out of some--or maybe just one--mouth-breathing blogger.

Join me after the jump, won't you?


 

Star-divide

Matt Ryan, Starter, A: Ryan's body of work is only a single season, but it's enough to get him a stellar grade early. No one's going to challenge our star sophomore for his starting spot, not after he showed poise, leadership and true talent at the position during his rookie season. The team has gotten him a shiny new toy in Tony Gonzalez and has made a couple of low-impact moves in hopes of improving the offensive line, so there will be plenty of chances for Ryan to further his development. If he can avoid the slight decline that marked the second half of his 2008 season and continue to prove steady at the helm for the Falcons, then this grade will be well-deserved. Barring injury, he shouldn't have any problems.

Chris Redman, Backup, B: You know what you're getting with Chris Redman, which is to say a solid backup with little upside who can start in a pinch. No matter how impressive D.J. Shockley or John Parker Wilson are this off-season, they have little to no chance of edging out Redman. A quiet veteran with a decent arm, Redman will hopefully never have to see the field, but 2007 gave us a good luck at what he can do if required. If I seem lukewarm on Redman, it's only because I'm always a big fan of giving younger guys a chance. He's actually one of the better backups in the league.

D.J. Shockley, Third-String, C+: Shock's actually one of the more divisive players on the Falcons, and I think it boils down to believers in his talent, non-believers in his talent and the sharp line between homerism and cynicism. It doesn't appear that he's ever going to be more than a backup in this league, but he's got some athletic ability and a quality arm, which is more than can be said for many, many backups in the NFL. This isn't the year he charges into the backup spot, but I can't imagine him losing his current spot unless he really struggles. I also can't imagine he's going to have any real role unless everything goes terribly awry.

John Parker Wilson, Practice Squad/Cut, D+: JPW seems like the kind of guy who will hang around in this league, but it's going to be on the strength of will. Scouts seem nearly united against the strength and accuracy of his arm, and he's not going to blow you away with his athleticism. He's definitely got the football smarts necessary, but the physical tools are going to hamper him. A truly transcendant off-season could propel him by Shockley, but I don't believe he has the upside necessary to ever climb higher than third on the depth chart. I'd love to see if he can develop beyond my expectations, but this isn't a league that rewards patience. I don't expect him to be on the final roster.

So that's my opinion. Do you agree?

Poll
Who will grab the last quarterback spot for the Falcons?
D.J. Shockley
359 votes
John Parker Wilson
137 votes
Someone else
12 votes
Is Chris Chandler still available?
46 votes

554 votes | Poll has closed

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Ryan at the end of last year

When Matt slipped a little late in the year, I got the impression that his arm was tired. By the Arizona game, it seemed like a lot of his passes were short, or just didn’t have as much zip on them. Guy took every snap from scrimmage all year except for a few that went to Norwood. He hit the rookie wall, and still had a great year.

by NeedATicketToTheGame on May 30, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thats whats making me nervous

I love Ryan, but he really needs to show this year that he can make the throws the entire season. I would have given him an A-, simply for his lackluster throws at the end of the year. Still he got it done, and I can’t say that I want anyone else in the league leading this team,

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by phoenix falcoholic on May 30, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My Impression

Was that Matt Ryan was struggling a little at the end of the season because defenses were adapting to him. He is a smart guy, he will figure it out and he’ll adapt in small ways this year to counteract it. He had over 200 MORE attempts in 2007 at BC than he did in 2008 in three less games, I really do not believe it was arm fatigue.

by utahfalcon on May 31, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

I don’t even think I’d say he declined in the 2nd half of the season (St Louis and Arizona, our last memories are over-riding what actually happened). He was very inconsistent (good against bad defenses, bad against good defenses) at the start of the season (week 1 vDet, good; week 2 @TB, awful; week 3 vKC very good; week 4 @ Car, bad), but from that point on, he was somewhere between good and great until week 17 (vSTL).

He was only OK in weeks 15 (vTB) and 16 (@Min), but those were against very good defenses.

He was great in weeks 12-14 (vCar, @SD, @NO), and last time I checked, they were in the second half of the season…

I don’t know what happened to him in week 17 against the Rams, but I feel confident saying that he was not the reason we lost the playoff game @Ari (even considering the 2 INT’s). The first INT was terrible – didn’t see the defender and threw it right to him. The 2nd INT was just a dumb decision (either by him or Mularkey) – the bomb that he underthrew… I know he wasn’t very good in the 1st or 3rd quarters, but he was great in the 2nd quarter, and good in the 4th quarter – he was the reason the team almost had a shot to win. Even the fumble (which is officially listed as his fault) should’ve really been Turner’s – he flinched/braced for the hit instead of securing the ball first (of course, the fumble was really Dahl’s fault, but whatever)… He definitely had his “rookie” mistakes in the game, but he had some great moments, too… The defense even had a couple spots where they stepped up when they had to (certainly not 3rd and 16, though), but our “workhorse” back sucked the whole game – I’m pinning it on him (and the offensive line in general).

Long story short, I agree with an A for Ryan. I’d go B- for Redman and C- for Shockley. And I don’t think there’s any possible way that JPW is anything more than a camp arm. Even if the coaches think he has potential, they’d probably just put him on the practice squad, and compete for #3 next year…

by orang3b on Jun 1, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

For the rant – I sound like his mom defending him…

by orang3b on Jun 2, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan

will outplay Tom Brady at the Falcons/Patriots game.

What rating would you give Tom Brady during his 2007 season?

That sounds like a good rating to me… alright… maybe that’s a little farfetched, but I can dream.

Anyways, I’m curious as to how tlozwarlock responds to your comments about JPW. The guy looked MUCH better than DJ during minicamp… I can very easily see the two of them competing hard for that third string spot.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 30, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Were we watching the same camp?

DJ looked great.

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on May 30, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they were pretty even actually

I am referring to the public mini-camp. JPW looked great in the timed routes, but he has a hard time making quick decisions. DJ was better at the decision making, but his throws were pretty sloppy looking and often missed his receivers. Neither of them are second string quality QBs, but they are both pretty neck and neck for third string. That’s just my opinion though.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 30, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neck and neck, but I don't think JPW can make all the throws...

Lots of air under his 15+ yard routes.

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on May 30, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JPW

Im leaning heavily in agreement with your assesment of John, he’s not a bad guy but he’s kinda in the mold of David Green who did well at Georgia but just didn’t have the physical skills to make it in the NFL. There will always be colledge QB’s who manage to do pretty well in colledge even at big time schools like the Tide but just don’t make at the next level.

by sirenman on May 30, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cough cough TIM TEBOW cough cough

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on May 31, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

someone had to say it

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 31, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else think it's somewhat odd that people doubt Kvic's ability to make a comeback ...

when Redman sold insurance for 2 yrs prior to playing for the Falcons?

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on May 31, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they are two very different style QBs

sure, it makes a good argument. That’s about it IMO. Arguing for the sake of arguing. Keeping the offseason as interesting as possible.

Vick will be a star wherever he goes… it’s just a matter at this point about where he’ll go.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 31, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah

I disagree that kciV “will be a star wherever he goes”… Even if he gets a shot to play regularly (not guaranteed), he will definitely not be the darling of the NFL hype machine. He may get some Sports Center highlights, but I’m not even sure about that – he’ll be 29 (declining physical skills), and unless he’s been studying coach’s tape in his cell, he still doesn’t know how to read defenses…

by orang3b on Jun 1, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know where that's coming from

As long as he’s in reasonable shape, Vick will come right back, contribute and generate ticket sales wherever he goes. With any luck, he’ll keep his nose clean and have a quality career.

by Dave the Falconer on Jun 2, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s one of those things where people want him to fail, which I guess is understandable, but everybody makes mistakes (obviously some mistakes are monumental and some mistakes are negligible).

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on Jun 2, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still pissed that he basically took a wrecking ball to the franchise

For such a reprehensible enterprise, but he’s served his time and it’s time to give him a chance somewhere else. Based on what he did to the franchise, I have no interest in ever seeing him in a Falcons uniform again.

by Dave the Falconer on Jun 3, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its safe to say

that the majority agrees with you there. I am glad that Arthur Blank made it clear that there is NO place for him as a Falcon.

I’d be a liar if I said I didn’t want to see him play again though. The guy is exciting. Throw him in the AFC somewhere so we don’t have to deal with him but can catch his highlights on Mondays.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on Jun 3, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

vick is a future viking

its almost his name it just makes sense

by mistab50 on Jun 1, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree, that coach loves T Jackson...

But Singletary would take him in a heartbeat…

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Jun 1, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

he wants him to be a great qb well why not learn from the master of the scramble for a of years and work with sage on passing technique and in 3 4 years top hand him the ball and let him go to work super bowl contender

by mistab50 on Jun 1, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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