A Glass Of Falcohol: Discussing The Tampa Bay Bucs

by Dave Choate on May 28, 2009 8:00 AM EDT in Editorial

It's time to talk about a team we all love to hate. A team that makes me curse until the foundations of my modest home shake and my face contorts in rage. A team that we can all agree is more vile and base than the lowliest cockroach roaming through the sewers underneath Florida.

Yes, it's the Tampa Bay Bucs!

Despite the fact that I use a Jeff Garcia jersey to induce vomiting, I have to admit that I'm probably higher on the Bucs this year than everyone outside of Tampa Bay and the family of Raheem Morris. I think it's good young team that will probably get punched in the mouth a few times this year, but will do well enough to hang around the contenders for most of the season. Of course, that possibility makes me violently ill.

My best guess is that rookie Josh Freeman steals the starting job by Week 8, the Bucs go somewhere in the vicinity of 7-9 (not my original prediction, I know) and we all get on with our lives. The better question is what you, dear reader, think will happen this season for one of our most vicious rivals?

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I would say.......

Garcia throws 10 picks in 4 games. They rush for a collective 75 yds a game. The city of Tampa decides arena football would be better suited for the post-Gruden groveling team and now the Bucs fans all happily drink 2 glasses of Jonestown Kool-Aid. That way Atlanta could wear a patch on their 2010 jerseys that pays tribute to the only team in the NFL that even Jesus cant stand.

by LovinJacketsnBirds on May 28, 2009 8:26 AM EDT reply actions

Ha.

FYI, Garcia is no longer a Buc – he’s now with the Raiders.

by TomQ on May 28, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions

It's even better

They have……..wait for it………Leftwich, the Byron. Tampa makes me laugh when they do things like that, but I still hate playing those guys.

Heh, Jonestown Kool-Aid, that’s funny.

"If Woody were Captain of the Titanic, he'd argue the boat sinking speaks to how effectively they put rich people in life boats and lock the poor folks below."
-jrauch commenting at Hoopinion on Woody's (non)logic in his post-game comments

by Jesse28 on May 28, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions

This a copy of a reply to an old fanpost...

The defense needed to get younger and it did. I think Phillips will be a beast at OLB. Adams needs to take a step forward (he sure gave FSU problems in college). I think the depth at DT is weak. Didn’t you pick up Miller in the draft? The offense needed a QB, but Freeman is a project. I don’t think he’s in the same class out of college as Ryan/Flacco. The WRs look good. OL is a little suspect. Picking up Bradshaw was a good win. It will be interesting to see how he handles being the feature back. Turner showed us that the B/Us can be great. Winslow can be great, or he could be the next version of the 08 Jeremy Shockey (not a factor). The problem with the Bucs will be expectations. They do have talent, but have lots of holes and only time will tell if they filled them in the draft/FA. Fans will point to the 08 Falcons/Dolphins/Ravens, but the situation is not the same. The Ravens were always a QB away from being playoff ready. The Falcons and Dolphins purged their "dead weight", hit home runs in the draft, and found the right coach. Not all teams have the same result. Look at the 08 Redskins. They didn’t make it, and they are the closet to the Bucs in comparison. Fresh young coach, lots of talent but more than a few holes, questions at the QB spot…

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on May 28, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions

as Raheem Morris said

5 dogs and 1 bone.

The thing is though… none of those dogs are even big enough to compete with any current starting QB in the league.

The Bucs field is loaded with question marks and they have a head coach who still looks wide-eyed that he is a head coach (IMO). I don’t expect this season to turn out well for them. They are going to start off rough, Leftwich will probably be starting. After Leftwich fails to deliver wins, they are going to start playing the QB blame game and start switching QBs. If their morale drops too early, they are going to see results similar to the Lions, no one is going to be motivated enough to deliver wins in a season that already is loaded with a tough schedule.

I predict 4 wins from the Bucs this season. One of them might be against Carolina. They will get swept by the Saints and the Falcons.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 28, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Five wins is their ceiling...

Of course, seeing their second 0-fer would delight me to no end.

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by joshmassey on May 28, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions

I don't think

Byron Leftwich is that bad. He’s good enough to not lose games for the Bucs, especially if their running game can pick up with the addition of Derrick Ward. I think their defense will be their weakness, and if they get behind early, they don’t have the passing power to come from behind and win.

Its true. I'm a Falcoholic! I just can't live without Falcohol!

by phoenix falcoholic on May 28, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

I am a Buc fan and i officially hate the falcons and Matt Ryan but i think that tampa will have a better passing game than u think

by atrain4000 on May 28, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions

I can't blame you...

for hating the Falcons. I hate the Bucs much less than the Saints and the Panthers, but there is a good bit of animosity. Hate Matt Ryan though? He’s such a good sportsman! Using that same logic, I love Rhonde Barber (despite the fact that he plays for the Bucs).

by TomQ on May 29, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions

Well

I dont hate all falcon players I dont mind Matt Ryan that much but i hate the fact that he is pretty much a franchize QB already. I hoped that it wouldnt happen for a couple of years from now. I like Turner and White but i cant wait to see Jamal Anderson’s retirement day. What has he got total in sacks like 3-5 sacks in two years. Tampa has no room to talk though Gaines Adams hasnt been what i hoped he would be. I wish he would be like John Abraham #55.

by atrain4000 on May 29, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions

i dont hateall falcons and i am just a little upset that Matt Ryan became a franchise QB so fast. I honestly doubt that he well have a slump but i can only hope that he will. I dont mind Falcon players like White, Turner, or Abraham. But i just cant wait for Jamal Anderson’s retirement. He will have like 10 sacks in his entire career. Not like Tampa has any room to talk with Gaines Adams. I can only hope he will have a break out year and become the player that the bucs thought he would be when they drafted him.

by atrain4000 on May 29, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Umm

As a Tampa fan, I would think you would hope JA never retires and starts every game for us since he is so horrible. Wanting him to retire sounds more like a closet Falcons fan to me. Just saying.

by Jesse28 on Jun 1, 2009 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions

If he wants to come out

Let’s be supportive!

by Dave Choate on Jun 2, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions

My Hate Speech

I reeeeeaaalllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy hhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the falcons but i will say i like them better than the other two rivials. I just wanted u guys to know that

by atrain4000 on May 28, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions

Ahem.

I reeeeeaaalllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy hhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee the Bucs, but at least they aren’t the Saints.

"If the Falcons ever manage to win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I'll french kiss a toilet." - a friend.

by Adam Schultz on May 29, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions

Do all of u know what i cant wait to see next season is Matt Ryan Sophormore slump. I hope it will just be magical. Alrite enough of that but seriously i think that Tampa will be a little better than some people think. I seen that ppl at the NFL network think that tampa will be just horrible. I have two words for them sammie Stroughter he is suppositly really impressing a lot of the stafff in tampa. So i guess i am just going to cross my fingers and hope that no team besides Tampa makes it to the Super Bowl this year

by atrain4000 on May 28, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions

thanks for stopping by

I don’t blame you, as a fan, for having high hopes for your team. Who knows, they could have one heck of a surprise turn around. For all I’m concerned, I hope they do… that doesn’t change that I want the Falcons to sweep them this year and that doesn’t change how likely it seems right now

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 28, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions

No team besides Tampa?

Kinda boring Super Bowl with only one team, don’t you think?? Maybe we’ll get to see some more wardrobe malfunctions…

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on May 29, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions

You represent your team well.

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by joshmassey on May 29, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions

Your Welcome

I really didnt mind stopping by. But u gotta admit if u were as bored as i was u guys would have came on the bucs site to give us hell. That was the only reason i showed up here. NaGaNole i am sorry i didnt clarify i just didnt want anyone from the NFC SOUTH to make it to the superbowl. I would rather see the falcons in the super bowl than the Panthers or Saints.

by atrain4000 on May 29, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I have to say

I think that the Bucs offense will be pretty good. We laugh at Leftwich because of the horrible outing he had in ATL, but he is a good QB when he stays healthy and commands respect with his ability to take a hit and keep going. Also he would be throwing to Antonio Bryant who has proved that he can be a #1 WR and Winslow Jr. who can be a dominating TE. They have a young and very good OL and several good RBs. I think that they will surprise some teams. No, I do not think that they will win the NFC South (Falcons or Saints IMO) but they are not a bad team.

Yes they have holes on the defensive side of the ball, but I remember last year there was a team that relied on their running game and had a pourus defense that didn’t turn out so bad…

"If you can’t get excited for Ryan throwing to Gonzalez, you’re either a robot or clinically dead. Or you’re a zombie robot, which is just plain awesome."
Dave the Falconer

by Pregame with Pabst on May 29, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions

I thought

Luke McCown was considered the favorite to win the starting QB gig – not that it’s a big difference…

by orang3b on May 29, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions

I think you're right

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?

Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.

by FrankyWren on May 29, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks all

I just wanted to thank all the falcon fans that i have chatted with. It has been alright. To be completely honest u guys have been more supportive of what i had to say than i have ever had at bucem. I reallly sense that they hate me but that is neither here nor there. So i am signing off of this site. Not that it matters to u guys but u probaly wont hear from me again until the next offseason or if the falcons lose a major game to Tampa so talk to u guys later

by atrain4000 on May 29, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions

stuff like that

makes me proud to be apart of this fanbase…

anyone ever notice how much more malicious other teams fanbases can be?

like the Dallas fans… they all have this chip on their shoulders like the expect their team to win and get pretty upset when it doesn’t happen. I mean, fair to say, I get upset when we don’t win, but I do more than just “nod” when we win.

I was really hoping a thread like this would stir more Bucs fans into the area too… hmmm… oh well. It was fun.

know what you believe in and why you believe in it

by MentallyMIA on May 29, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions