It's Saturday And We're Talking Falcon Linebackers
Sometimes these discussions really are as simple as the title of the post. I gotta give you all a break every now and then, right?
In case you missed it, the Falcons signed free agent linebacker Edmond Miles earlier this week. He's probably got a chance to contribute on special teams, but it's certainly not a signing that's likely to yield a big impact. The question then becomes, who exactly is going to fill the holes left by Keith Brooking and Michael Boley?
One of the two will almost certainly be Mike Peterson, who played Mike Smith in Jacksonville, is a tough veteran and was almost essentially average last year. While I don't necessarily believe he's hit the end of the line for his career, Peterson isn't likely to wow anyone. He's a solid veteran who can fill in on the outside for a year or two and complement Curtis Lofton reasonably well.
On the other side, we have Coy Wire--who used to be a member of the Bills' secondary--competing with Stephen Nicholas, the 26-year old with plenty of potential but little production since he was drafted three years ago.While Wire's surprisingly solid, I'll be disappointed if he beats out the younger Nicholas, who has the athleticism to contribute outside against the pass and the run.
I hope I'm wrong, but that looks like a pretty bland starting duo flanking Lofton, who may be due for a pretty incredible year as one of the best defensive players on the field. The Falcons' only move to address the position was drafting Miami LB Spencer Adkins, who probably won't even sniff a starting job until three years down the line.
The solution might be to move rookie Lawrence Sidbury to outside linebacker and let him bring his considerable pass-rushing talent to bear there, but there's a bit of uncertainty about whether the team wants him to end up at defensive end or not. There's also the possibility that I'm worrying about nothing, and Nicholas and Peterson will bring considerable force to bear against our hapless opponents. It just doesn't seem all that likely, and I'm at a bit of a loss to solve what might be the greatest remaining defensive deficiency on the roster.
Who do you think will win the two outside starting gigs? What will it take to upgrade linebacker?
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Well, here's what I've been reading
It seems to me like the team is very high on Nicholas and expects him to see a whole lot more of the field. Ive also seen in a few places that they would prefer to have Sidbury stay on the line. So that means it is most likely shaping up to be Peterson-Lofton-Nicholas. I would call that an upgrade from last year. Brooking was worthless from the get go. Boley had been benched by the end of the season. Lofton has had another year to become an even bigger badass. With the size of the contract they signed Peterson to, I would expect that the team anticipated him starting, not just being a situational player/backup.
by SG Standard on May 2, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm probably viewing this with a dim lens
But you’re right, odds are good that they provide better value than Brooking and Boley last season. It’s just a question of how much more.
by Dave the Falconer on May 2, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy idea
Just curious, but I never hear any talk about Kroy Biermann. I love this guy. He was drafted late in last years draft and was dubbed “too small” for an NFL DE. He played there anyway and had significant positive impact even in limited duty. I did see him get pushed around some though, and still found a way to make it to the QB and disrupt plays. He definitely has speed and a serious motor. Should the falcons consider moving him to linebacker to take advantage of his athleticism and pass rush ability, without having him match up against huge offensive tackles? They have Lawrence Sidbury, Chauncey Davis, Jamaal Anderson(for now) and John Abraham at DE now(along with a couple of other backups). If they can develop Sidbury, use Chauncey to start for now and rely on their new found depth at DT, seems like shifting Kroy from the line could be a reality. Your thoughts?
by Falcaddiction on May 2, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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You know, I’d be interested to hear what everyone else thinks about this idea. If the team wants to keep Sidbury at defensive end, this makes an awful lot of sense to me.
by Dave the Falconer on May 2, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that idea isn't so crazy at all!
the guy was BUILT for OLB. Why didn’t this ever cross my mind before?
Biermann is 6-3, 241 lbs. He is about 20 pounds away from being a mean tackle. The falcons had selected him in the 5th round. However, I think with a year of playing experience under his belt, he will be much better moved as a rotational OLB and wouldn’t need that extra 20 pounds. I would LOVE to see this happen.
Lawrence Sidbury is already the ideal size for a DE and how hard can it be to be a situational pass rusher? I could see him making an impact there from day 1. Guy could be John Abraham’s twin at 6’2, 266 (Abe is 6’4", 266).
by MentallyMIA on May 2, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Biermann idea was like a bolt of lightning
I couldn’t believe I hadn’t really thought of it either, but it makes a ton of sense.
by Dave the Falconer on May 2, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm ...
He’d have to be a situational-pass rusher at OLB, as I’m fairly sure he possesses little if any coverage skills. I’m not sure how well he’d fare against the run, as he was tossed around a fair bit last fall. But, to that effect … Sidbury probably isn’t very good in coverage either (although you’d think he’d do fairly well against the run at OLB).
TD re: Sidbury (on Thursday): "He’s a 4.54 in our books. If he can continue to learn to rush the passer and continue to learn you have a legitimate DPR – defensive pass rush guy. He’s still developing."
I don’t know what to make of that quote. He isn’t ruling out a switch to OLB, but it does seem like Sid’s value is centered on his pass-rushing ability.
TD re: the linebacking corps (on Thursday): "We were happy to have (Michael Peterson) come in along with Curtis Lofton inside. We targeted a couple of linebackers in the draft that didn’t fall to us. They went off the board a little early. We understood that we were not going to come away with every need early on in the draft. We were pretty calculated in our approach. We felt by getting a defensive lineman, pulling the safety off the board and then corner off the board that we addressed three of the four areas on defense. With Stephen Nicholas stepping up, in our mind, to be a legitimate contributor in the base defense, we feel like we are sitting quite sound in our linebacker group."
So apparently TD and company have a lot of faith in Nicholas (as some here have suggested).
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on May 2, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is good to know
that they knew we have a need at LB and some were targeted. It makes a lot more sense why none were picked up in the draft now too. They are very smart in their approach to the draft when comparing needs vs. best available.
I think that our LB corps will be sound… just nothing phenomenal. I do like the idea of how nasty our pass rush is going to be next season. We have a lot of guys that pass rushing is their situational forte.
by MentallyMIA on May 2, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, only on certain downs
He could fill that stand up-third down-lineman role that Nicholas was used in last year. No matter what, if somebody is going to OLB, they have to get better against the run.
by SG Standard on May 2, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JMO
But I thought Kroy Biermann sucked. ::shrug::
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by iRonin on May 4, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unlike JA98
he had 2 sacks in his rookie season – he Got Rivers in week 13 and he got Bulger in the final game of the season. This was after posting only 14 total tackles.
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by MentallyMIA on May 5, 2009 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
not sure on his exact height and weight but he does remind me of whats been dubbed a “tweener” so moving him to linebacker does makes sense
by gritzblitz on May 2, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ironic note...
Not that it’s amazingly accurate (or even halfway accurate), but Biermann does have some pretty good coverage skills on Madden 09. He usually ends up getting traded to whatever team I’m playing on and being a OLB/DE tweener, especially if I’m running a 3-4.
Just sayin’. I think moving him to OLB and leaving Sidbury at DE would be the best bet, but I also think that him at DE would give value too (especially with Abraham rotating out so much to stay fresh).
by BigManChili on May 2, 2009 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another thought....
Could it be that the falcons used him at DE last year because they had to? I just did a quick google using “Kroy Biermann linebacker”. The results are interesting. He was actually projected as an OLB in the NFL. Maybe we were so shorthanded at DE last year, we had to use him. Likewise, maybe the Dimitroff plan has him moving back to the position where he was originally projected. And what if that plan has him starting at the position? Maybe its a stretch….and maybe not.
I think it fills a big hole for us. Stephen Nicholas I like too, but I think he’s probably best suited in a backup role on passing downs(did I say that out loud??). I have other kooky ideas too, but I’ll keep those to myself for now.
by Falcaddiction on May 2, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Biermann wasn't needed at OLB last season
we had Lawyer Milloy and Keith Brooking holding those positions on lock. Now he has a season under his belt adjusting to the speed of the NFL – I think he is an excellent option as a pass rushing LB (‘cause I really like Sidburry on the line). Who knows, maybe one offseason (assuming they didn’t work on this last season) is enough time for him to have developed some coverage skills too.
I already stated it in another post, his size is ideal for OLB whereas he’s a hair small for DE. I think he could really shine in the position.
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by MentallyMIA on May 3, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linebackers
I think we will be just fine with our new DBs and Safeties. We still need a big run stopper in the middle. The Offense will be Super and we will run the ball a little more. We might struggle a tad in the first part of the season, but now the prediction from me…
Falcons go 12 – 4 to win the division and advance to the Big one, the SUPER BOWL
You heard it from me
by his papaw on May 3, 2009 4:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still need a big run stopper??
We drafted Jerry at 299 lbs. He will play this year at 310-315 lbs. He played a lot of 1 gap NT in college. They compare him to Warren Sapp, but I think a better comparison would be Jamal Williams with a better first step. This guy is going to be special. Don’t forget that Babs isn’t horrible against the run either. I will be the first to tell you that I didn’t agree with adding a TE in the draft, but adding Gonzo was brilliant. I think it can help Ryan avoid a soph slump (not that I think that will be a problem). I think the speed we added on defense was especially important for our first game. If Ronnie Brown running the Wildcat helped MIA go to NE and beat the PATS, then what do you think Pat White can do with it?
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by NaGaNole on May 3, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Week one will be fun
I’m pretty confident we can handle the “wildcat”. That gimmick offense won’t work on us. Plus, Miami does not have and gamechanging playmakers, in my humble prediction, we blow them out week one. They have a suspect D-Line and inexperienced, average corners. Their safties are solid against the run, but against the pass…not so much. Ryan should be able to go up top all day long. There is now way they can stop our offense…we are a well oiled machine!
by Chandler12 on May 3, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Run defenses are always suspect
when it is Turner they have to face.
Then, the unpredictability we have now with Tony G, I don’t see many defenses matching up well against us. I am so excited about this next season. Tony G is going to tear up CBs and bring safeties forward and Jenkins and White are going to be open downfield all day long. When defenses start playing back to stop White and Jenkins, Turner is going to run people over as we have grown to love him to do. I can see Norwood getting open on toss plays and in the flats a lot too with Tony G drawing corners away from the sidelines. Have I mentioned that I am excited about our offense yet?
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by MentallyMIA on May 3, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Linebackers
I think the TD correctly assessed that the DL and DBs were more of a need than the LB. I think our LBs will be solid not spectacular. I hold out virtually no hope for the LB out of Miami to contribute, but that is about where he was selected. Look for a LB in next year’s draft in the top three rounds and maybe two of them – OL being the other top three pick.
It is important to remember that the owner, GM and coach look out far more into the future then we fans – but in normal drafts from the overhaul status the Falcons were in we have done pretty good under TD -
Year 1 – Fixed running back and QB while adding middle linebacker (not too shabby, huh?)
Year 2 – Fix DL and DB while adding TE (not too shabby, huh?)
Year 3 – Focus on LB and OL while adding depth/starter at DL/DB
Folks, next years record may be down vs 2008 and we may not even make the playoffs, byt they sure as heck know what they are doing and I am firmly convinced we are on our way to being a competitive football team and organization at the highest level of professional football.
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by Whopper Dawg on May 3, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
We’re on the right path, and it’s worth noting that we drafted a linebacker with prodigious physical skills who needs coaching. Might he be asked to contribute in 2010?
by Dave the Falconer on May 4, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just my thoughts...
I thought I read something where Dimitroff said we were going to run a little 3-4 this year too? Maybe Biermann/Sidbury are DEs when we are in the 4-3 and OLBs in the 3-4? Peterson SLB in 4-3 and shifts inside when we come out in the 3-4?
Also, love the site. I found it in early April when I was googling mock drafts on my blackberry and have been checking back every few hours or so since. Mobile commenting would be nice since im stuck on dialup at the house lol
by FLA_Falcon on May 4, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
Mobile commenting would be nice…. As a devout iPhone user, I’m usually the loudest and most obnoxious voice when it comes to mobile commenting. I’m told some time this summer from Dave…
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by iRonin on May 4, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potential
Not sure about cap room etc. but Larry Foote ? Cut from the Steelers, could be daylight robbery if we get him – excuse the pun…
by Guiche on May 5, 2009 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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