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Draft Notes For NFC South Rivals

Anyone who doesn't think the NFC South is one of or the most competitive division in football needs to have his or her head checked with calipers. If you want to cultivate a healthy rivalry, this is a good place to do it.

That said, we've been so busy soaking in the spoils of our own draft that perhaps we've forgotten about our dumb ugly erstwhile rivals! I guess I'd better remedy that with my own irresponsible, incredibly inaccurate thoughts on what the Bucs, Panthers and Saints did this draft day. Read on!

Tampa Bay Bucs

C

Just so we're clear, I'm probably the biggest Josh Freeman fan in any room that isn't filled with his immediate family. I think he's going to produce for them sooner than anyone expects, and I'd give him a better than 70% chance to be a solid franchise quarterback for the Bucs. Plus, given enough time, I'm going to be able to make some Half-Life jokes about him. So there's upside there.

The rest of the draft is underwhelming, in my mind. Their second round pick went toward Kellen Winslow, which was a very good move, but I can't really count it as a draft pick. DT Roy Miller is rock solid, but I'm not all that impressed with DE Kyle Moore or CB E.J. Biggers. OT Xavier Fulton may end up having injury problems, but I do like WR Sammie Stroughter as the last pick of their draft.

It's not a terrible series of picks by any measure, but nothing other than Freeman jumps off the board at me. The Bucs are a team that I think will cause trouble in the NFC South sooner than we're ready for, but they didn't get appreciatively better due to this draft.

Check out what Bucs fans--who, you know, actually know what they're talking about--are saying at Buc 'Em.

Carolina Panthers

A-

Feel free to joke about how boneheaded it was to throw a huge contract at Jake Delhomme, because I sure have. After you're done laughing, you've got to acknowledge what an amazing job the Panthers' front office did with this draft.

First of all, getting DE Everette Brown in the second round is just staggering value. As a terrific pass rusher, Brown is going to give us fits every time we have to play the Teal Cats, and that means I automatically detest him. You suck, Everette Brown! CB Sherrod Martin and DT Corey Irvin are both a little bit raw, but there's a ton of potential there and they fill positions of need for the Panthers. Like us, the team went defense early and often, and it looks like it will pay off for them.

RB Mike Goodson would be a great choice for most teams, but the Panthers already have one of the league's better back tandems, so he's likely to get buried. FB Tony Fiammetta was widely considered the best in the draft as his position, and you all know I like OG Duke Robinson a lot. Top off the draft with CB Captain Munnerlyn, who has a fantastic name, and it's pretty clear that the Panthers got a ton of value on paper despite not even having a first round pick. I thought they'd be the worst in the division this year, but I'm not so sure at this point.

For more on the Panthers, check out Cat Scratch Reader.

New Orleans Saints

B-

This is a tough draft to grade, especially since the Saints only wound up with four draft picks. In the end, I'm probably going to get lambasted for going too high or too low based on a single pick. When it's 25% of your bounty, though, I think it's justified.

CB Malcolm Jenkins was probably the safest pick New Orleans could make, and his selection upgrades easily the team's biggest weakness: its patchwork/makeshift/ugly as sin secondary. Jenkins is the real deal, and he'll make life a little tougher for Roddy White once he works his way up the ladder. S Chip Vaughn is a solid player who will likely be a starter, but aside from his fit in the secondary, I don't see him becoming anything fantastic.

LB Stanley Arnoux is very underrated, I think. The team will have to move him outside to get true value, thanks for Jonathan Vilma clogging up the inside like some sort of talented clog, but he'll do just fine out there. I see him as a potential starter, as well, which brings out total count to three. Not at all bad, and that would probably get the Saints a B or even a B+.

But wait! The Saints then decided a wise decision would be to swap next year's fifth rounder and this year's seventh rounder for P Thomas Morstead. That's not a typo, mind you. They actually traded those two picks for a punter. A punter, mind you, who is probably not the second coming of Ray Guy. When they still arguably had needs at other positions. He may very well turn out to be a good punter, but in a draft with so few picks to begin with, I find it hard to puzzle out the logic for this move.

For all things Saints and whatever else they do in New Orleans for fun, check out Canal Street Chronicles.

So that's that. What are your thoughts on our hated rivals and their drafting prowess?

 

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Who had the best draft out of our NFC South rivals?
Bucs
15 votes
Panthers
57 votes
Saints
37 votes
Even though it's not an option, still the Falcons
180 votes

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I'd walk up to freeman and say

Hey, catch me later and I’ll buy you a beer.

If anyone gets that, I’ll give up video games for a week.

But yeah, I’m pretty much on the same page with these grades, save the Saints draft. If you could call it that. Two picks for a mediocre punter does not a good draft make. Nor does it make an ok draft. The saints will be reeling from this all season. So I’d put them in the C range. The Panthers scored a good one and I’d put them right along the Falcons as best NFC South drafts of the bunch. Bucs and Saints are around the same area too. So I’d say…

1. Falcons
2. Panthers
3. Bucs
4. Saints

So nyah. Row row fight the powah.

"If the Falcons ever manage to win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I'll french kiss a toilet." - a friend.

by tlozwarlock on Apr 29, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I disagree on the Carolina draft.

Yes, Brown was IMHO the best value of the draft, they didn’t address their main weakness at DT. They rely too much on their LBs to make up for there lake of quality starters up front. However, D Ward isn’t a downhill beast, and neither is P Thomas. In divisional play, this hurts them most against us. There pass rush from the outside will be great.

"We're not maxed out, ... The best is still ahead of us."

Bobby Bowden

by NaGaNole on Apr 29, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But

It’s not a good value anymore when you use the 2nd and give away next year’s 1st

by orang3b on Apr 29, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My biggest thing

I was looking to grade them purely on who they picked, as much as humanly possible. You can bet they won’t get the same grade next year, because they’re definitely hamstrung.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 29, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well,

we could be our own rival if you looked at it from a psycho-semantic point of view.

"If Woody were Captain of the Titanic, he'd argue the boat sinking speaks to how effectively they put rich people in life boats and lock the poor folks below."
-jrauch commenting at Hoopinion on Woody's (non)logic in his post-game comments

by Jesse28 on Apr 29, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

darn those falcons

it wouldn’t even be fair for them to have the best draft class this year after they dominated the competition last year.

I really hope our draft is better than theirs. Regardless of what everyone is voting for!

by MentallyMIA on Apr 29, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They all

Get an “F”.

Actually, I voted Panthers – but I think all 3 were well behind our draft (no bias, though).

Carolina C+:
I like (hate) the Brown pick at #43, except that they also used next years 1st rounder (oops) – of course, they got back a 4th rounder, so… whatever. The big thing is he is undersized (6’2", 256, 4.65 40) for a DE. Remind you of somebody? Sounds like Sidbury (6’3", 267, 4.53 40) to me, except we got our guy in the 4th round. He may turn out to be a great undersized pass rusher like Robert Mathis, but that sure is a big investment (I’m sure they won’t mind the investment if he is a player, though).

Sherrod Martin might be a good pick for them (if he can play CB). He has some of the same issues as Peria Jerry, though – he’s an older prospect (will be 25), and has had some injury problems. If he has to play Safety, though… hmm, I thought Godfrey played well last year.

I didn’t understand going RB/FB in the 4th for them, but Duke Robinson in the 5th was a steal.

New Orleans C:
They did the smart thing by drafting Malcolm Jenkins (or the dumb thing – I was hoping they’d go for another RB). I think he’s gonna be a good CB for a while. And their next pick (4th rounder) Chip Vaughn has potential. If it weren’t for the Raiders and Broncos screwing up almost every pick, the funniest event of the weekend would’ve been the Ain’ts trading up (a 7th and next year’s 5th) for a PUNTER…

Tampa Bay C-:
Really, it’s either an "A" or an "F" depending on if Josh Freeman turns into a quality starter. Recent history says about 30% of 1st round QB’s pan out (I think that’s a Football Outsiders quote – but I can’t find it now). I’m just not sure it will be Freeman. After that pick, it was kinda like the end of our draft – try to fill some needs, don’t do anything stupid (like the Saints).

by orang3b on Apr 29, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm...

NFL.com gave us a C+

that’s the same grade they gave us last season.

I hope we are starting a trend.

by MentallyMIA on Apr 30, 2009 7:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Carolina had a terrrible draft

They apparently have a thing for not drafting in the 1st round. There is a reason why Brown slipped and I personally am not that high on him. Not to mention next years draft will be stacked with talent and not having a first will hurt.

I liked the Mickens pick, but Corvey in the 3rd? WOW. Wouldnt imagine he would get a look until late 5th, if at all. Big reach there…

TB- All i have to do is youtube William Moore highlites and see how our new SS likes Freeman… gives me shivers.

NO- Solid until that last move. Im a big Vaughn fan, I thought they did well considering.

" No, I think I'll sit in the balcony " - Abe Lincoln

by tapate50 on Apr 30, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Saints fan..

and the Falcons had the only reasonable draft. I have no idea what any of the other teams are doing. And wtf is up with the punter choice? Payton is smoking some serious crack.

It’s F’s for everyone but the Falcs who (painfully) chose some okay players and therefore get a B because it wasn’t a great draft for them either.

by xen-cuts on May 12, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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