In Defense Of The First Two Days Of Falcon Free Agency
At times like these, patience is the key.
Sure, we've lost three out of our four major unrestricted free agents. Domonique Foxworth was a quality player last season, Michael Boley was great until last year and Keith Brooking was a little bit past his prime. They were all pieces of the team and Foxworth was very much a key piece, but they're still only three guys. Not one superstar in that group.
I think that gets at the heart of the way Thomas Dimitroff is building this defense. In New England, management cobbled together a defense with perhaps one big name guy (Richard Seymour) and a bunch of guys with little-to-no name recognition nationally. Paired with a high octane offense, the D was good enough to keep the Patriots in games and occasionally shut down an opponent entirely. It's becoming clear that the good Comrade believes in that philosophy.
Is it scary to watch guys who have been good players and team leaders leaving for gobs of money? You bet your mostly sedentary butt it is. Watching Foxworth and Boley leave bothered me to no end, and I find it hard to believe that Boley won't turn his career back around elsewhere. But it's not going to be the nature of the Falcons in the years ahead to dole out huge contracts to guys like Albert Haynesworth, and I think we better get used to that now. If we don't, I'm going to be 24 going on 54, which is basically what I felt like all last off-season. The draft aged me at least ten years.
That doesn't mean that there aren't guys out there that the Falcons could and should pick up. D. Orlando Ledbetter at the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has a short list with some useful names, which many of you have already championed for. Safety Sean Jones would be an excellent fit and give Mike Smith a chance to shuffle around Erik Coleman and Thomas DeCoud, while defensive end Paul Spicer would ably replace Chauncey Davis if he becomes the fourth free agent to escape Atlanta on a rocketship.
We're going to completely ignore the cornerback Dre Bly and safety Mike Brown talk in that article.
My general point is that we're alive and well. Whether the L.J. Smith rumor ever comes to anything or not, the Falcons are going to make some signings. The only thing we can do right now is react, but let's keep the idea of a long-term plan firmly in the back of our minds. After the minor miracle he pulled off last season, Thomas Dimitroff deserves at least that much.
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I agree with Dave 100% here. There are 28 days left.
TD isn’t goign to rush his ultimate winning plan.
"If the Falcons ever manage to win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I'll french kiss a toilet." - a friend.
by tlozwarlock on Mar 1, 2009 9:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Boley
On the Scout.com forums, someone said that Boley would succeed far better in an aggressive D than a read-and-react D like our Cover 2. I think that sounds about right, and I’d expect him to return to form in New York, a form he probably couldn’t have returned to if he stayed here.
That said, I’m having a little trouble with this FA, not because we haven’t made a splash but all we’ve done is hemorrhage defensive players. Although considering how bad our D was last season, maybe that’s a start. I guess I’m just a little nervous that maybe Dimitroff took us seriously when we said “We might as well have no defense at all with some of these guys!” I suppose I’m okay letting Brooking, Milloy, Boley, go, but Foxworth stung. I guess the cat really wanted to be in Balitmore, but we did give up a draft pick for him. Was that draft pick really worth anything then?
I mean, he helped us for a single season, and then was out. I suppose it was smart for Dimitroff to give him a one-year deal in case he didn’t produce, but there’s no obvious long-term plan with this defense, and all I’ve got to go on is a draft that really only picked up one player on the D, and a FA that has been nothing but departures, including our best cornerback.
I wish someone would tell me what the plan was. To quote the Joker “you know what I’ve noticed nobody panics when things go according to plan even if the plan is horrifying.” I just wanna know that this is “all part of the plan.”
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Mar 1, 2009 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Free Agency
Im going to take a wait and see attitude. I would rather us take one step back this year in order to bring in the right guys in and develop them, than to overpay for guys that we will just get rid of in two seasons and have to start all over. I hope the guys that we have can step up into starting roles. Decoud, Nicholas, and Chevis Jackson are hopefully all ready to take that step, along with what i hope is a deep and talented draft class. Does anyone else get the feeling that the odds of us actual drafting a player in the 24 slot are slim and none? I think TD will trade out of that spot in order to accumulate additional picks. Just a thought
by Chayton365 on Mar 1, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Again, I advocate patience
I think the plan is fairly clear: Target mid-to-low level free agents at bargain prices, assemble a deep draft and perhaps make one or two trades to fill remaining holes. I think the silence on the part of the Falcons only serves to confirm that, but I’ve been wrong before.
There’s nothing flashy or splashy about the way the Comrade does business. It’s frustrating because he never publicly seems to indicate any interest in the big names, the guys we point at and say “we need this dude.” Judging by last off-season and the start of this one, though, I think it’s safe to say he’s sticking to his own plan.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 1, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Mar 1, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
One thing that never crossed my mind
I just read this on SI.com. The way things stand now, the Falcons stand to clean up in compensatory picks come the 2010 draft. One of their writers said that by losing Boley, Brooking, and Foxworth, with as much guaranteed money as they have picked up, we could gain three third rounders next year. Not to say I wouldn’t love to see the team sign Sean Jones, but if we plan on really building through the draft, this strategy could pay off in spades. We have to remember, this team is years ahead of schedule. There is no reason to make a big splash in free agency and tie up a ton of money in one player. Its not like this team is looking at a one or two year window to win a Super Bowl. The team is still just at the start of a long period of competitiveness, and the plan so far clearly recognizes that.
by SG Standard on Mar 1, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
'nough said
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Mar 1, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
I don’t think that’s anywhere close to accurate.
We barely secured a 3rd rounder for Kerney and he led the NFC in sacks. Those three are going to have to have a MONSTROUS season for us to think about getting three thirds.
More than likely we’ll lose Brooking and Foxworth for 5ths (that means Kroy Biermann and Robert James). I think Boley might give us a legit run at a third, depending on his performance.
Salary is the #1 issue, but unless we stay totally quiet in FA, we’re going to mitigate those numbers some (which currently tilt in our favor because we haven’t signed anyone…)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Draft#Compensatory_picks
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Mar 1, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Foxworth signed for seven million a year and Boley is getting five. Those are pretty big numbers. Plus, if you ask me, Foxworth is going to be an absolute stud with the Ravens. With their pass rush and the secondary they already have, he is going to put up some stellar numbers. Three may very well be a reach, and the team may still make a signing that will mitigate the losses, but to start circling the wagons after two days of free agency without thinking long term is a bit foolish.
by SG Standard on Mar 1, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
my idea
we need to focus our free agency on aquireing small name players who on game film have done big things take a risk how about talking to the saints about shokey and defensive backs how about the big brian dawkin hello
so you can focus on linebackers and defensive takles in the draft sure it will cost alot but it will give us a much better chance next year
and the draft the 24th spot is your chose but i think we need bj raji to help our pass rush
and second round pick up a Db second day heres a player whose a play maker that will probably hide danial elerbe 4th round down im not sure but thats just me
by mistab50 on Mar 1, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I say gizflam to your patience, both of you, but especially the one with the pretentious picture
Now why do I say gizflam?
Because it’s not like TD is going all Puppet Master and staying out of the fray. It’s not like we weren’t trying to work deals with Brooking and Foxworth. We were mentioned as looking at Haynesworth (though as a big ticket item, I didn’t think it seriously sounded like our style). We were in the running for Antonio Smith.
These don’t feel like the calculated moves of a genius at work, but losses. Of course, I said the same thing last year, and look what happened. But I stick by my story; had Matt Ryan not been phenomenal, our team would have been a long-term disaster. I hope there are some more miracles in store for 09-10.
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Mar 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But...
Matt Ryan was phenomenal. The team is not a long term disaster. Like I said, they are literally years ahead of where they should be. Losing Foxworth really sucks, but the team did all they could. If a guy takes less money to play near his home, you can’t fault the Falcons front office. Losing Brooking is a net gain. He was beyond worthless. Haynesworth was never going to happen. Yeah, I would have loved to have a QB eating monster clogging the middle of the line, but not at 13 mil a year or whatever he is getting. Additionally, his past issues don’t exactly scream New Falcon material. I think everybody just needs to relax.
by SG Standard on Mar 1, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but it’s a gamble. The draft always is. If we’re hoping to find a Matt Ryan on D (i.e. someone who can improve that side of the ball by light years), it’ll probably take a miracle. On a long enough timeline gambler’s always lose.
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Mar 1, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
What about the rest of last year’s draft? Lofton? Jackson?
I’d love for us to make a splash or two in FAgency, but this is hardly the time to panic IMO.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Mar 1, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You've misunderstood.
My point was not to marginalize those player’s drafted, but to point out that the transformation of the offense really started with Matt Ryan. This seems doubly true coming from a top-rated running attack that finished 8-8 or worse because it couldn’t pass.
Lofton’s a great pickup. Jackson has played decent as a nickel (though it’s difficult to say how he’d play at corner). But are they game-changing? Clearly they sat on a low-rated defense, so at least they weren’t a game-changer the way Ryan was.
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Mar 1, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
But I think it’s important to recognize/appreciate TD’s football philosophy. He’s a NE man. They built from the ground up, and he wants the Falcons to do the same.
I’d love to see us make a deep runs in the playoffs in the coming years. But if the Birds take a step back next year, and that allows us to take a big step forward for the next decade or so, I’m all for it.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Mar 1, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
make a deep runs = make deep runs
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Mar 1, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The claws are coming out in here
I think there’s good arguments to be made for and against the current philosophy (or lack thereof) with regards to management. My biggest thing is waiting to see who the Falcons sign not just this weekend, but in the days ahead. Sure, a lot of your big name guys are going off the board now, but how many of them were we ever really in on?
Regardless of the draft pick argument, I’d like very much for the Falcons to sign Sean Jones. I want us to be contending annually, and we do need to fill in at least a couple of holes in free agency so we can draft well at our biggest positions of need. Safety—in my humble opinion, anyways—should be made a little lower on our priority list.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 1, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
For some reason (probably cap reasons*), I’ve always had an issue using a 1st round pick on a safety (unless you’re getting a can’t miss prospect like when the Redskins drafted Landry), so signing someone would make me feel a bit better about using our first rounder on a position of greater importance (like LB) and using a mid-rounder on someone like Michael Hamlin.
- Historically, safeties have been one of the lowest-paid positions (TE is the offensive equivalent), and so a mid-to-upper first round S would be one of the highest-paid players at his position. For an example of this, look at when the 49rs drafted TE Vernon Davis at pick 10 (I think), and the expected contract for a Top 10 draft pick made him the highest paid TE in NFL history. Waste of money.
by BigManChili on Mar 1, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Safety.
I think those are good points, but I don’t think it’s because it’s an “average” position, like TE seems to be to me. i.e. there’s not a huge gap between the top-rated TE and the tenth rated TE.
Safety, on the other hand, seems worth it’s weight in gold. If you can get an Ed Reed/Bob Sanders/Polamalu, you do it, because there’s a huge drop in talent between the top-rated S and the tenth rated S. A good safety is worth his weight in gold.
Maybe there is no Heaven. Or maybe this is all pure gibberish — a product of the demented imagination of a lazy drunken hillbilly with a heart full of hate who has found a way to live out where the real winds blow — to sleep late, have fun, get wild, drink whisky, and drive fast on empty streets with nothing in mind except falling in love and not getting arrested...Res ipsa loquitur. Let the good times roll.
by iRonin on Mar 1, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I was the world’s biggest Landry fan two drafts ago, so I definitely recognize the value in a top flight safety. Is it insane to suggest that Thomas DeCoud could be a very good safety?
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 2, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The split here is between Draft builders and FA builders.
And between those of us who have put our faith in a coach and general manager that have vetted their talent to us ten fold over the past season and those that, due to the Falcons’ good/suck rollercoaster, won’t trust the fellows working the gates at the Dome.
I’m a former on both counts. As a long time fan, I have finally seen the type of leadership that will turn these Falcons into a truly competitive team.
"If the Falcons ever manage to win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I'll french kiss a toilet." - a friend.
by tlozwarlock on Mar 1, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the trick is balance
There’s no way to make everybody happy, but even as a very draft-leaning guy I would be stunned and unhappy if we simply did nothing in free agency. Getting young guys with upside, a veteran placeholder who can play at a high level for a couple of years…those are the kinds of moves Comrade should be looking at. You don’t have to break the bank to find value.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 1, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t have to break the bank to find value.
Nor do you need to wrap up your FA acquisitions during the first 48 hours of free agency. But I agree, balance is key.
Warlock make a good point. Birds fans have been burned in the past, and last year was a shining ray of hope, so I understand why people want us to sustain our success.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
by FrankyWren on Mar 1, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Saying draft vs FAcy
isnt really fair. Its a mix. You have to add low and mid level guys to supplement our losses. We have holes at DE, DT, 2 LBs, SS, CB, TE and OL at the very least. Realistically, you wont get but 2-3 starters from the draft for those positions… So, you have to add some guys that can contribute right away to stay competitive and push our young guys. Im not for heavy FAcy, im a draft guy. But realistically, we have more holes than can be filled in a draft or even two.
- OL meaning we need depth
" No, I think I'll sit in the balcony " - Abe Lincoln
by tapate50 on Mar 2, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Disturbed...
Hi I’m new to the site and it seems that everyone has valid points but we really need to pick up somebody that can start in FA. we really can’t afford to try and get all our starters in the draft as no matter how good you evaluate prospects its still very hit or miss (Mattie ice= hit, Jamal Anderson= miss)
by TheFranchiseis#2 on Mar 1, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jamal Anderson
was a pick from the last regime which if I remember correctly was led by Mr. Pig Soui himself the, what was the word iRonin used, oh yea, Gizflam falgmizaster Bobby “i’m in it for the long haul” Petrino. And as we’ve seen, he was the sharpest tool in the shed.
Just thought I would through that out there. I have a little more faith in TD and Smitty that I do in a man who takes a midnight plan to Arkansas to do a “surprise” press conference to annouce he is quitting in the middle of the season. Not that i’m mad about how things turned out, in fact it is the opposite, i’m really glad that it turned out the way that it did.
Welcome to the site by the way!
If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.
-Bo Jackson
by Pregame with Pabst on Mar 2, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the site!
I think we have to look for a surefire solid player at a reasonable rate, someone who can groom a young guy picked in the late first or second day of the draft. I’m specifically talking about the secondary and at defensive tackle here.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 2, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably only looking at big time safety and thats it in FA
Don’t look for TD to do too much in FA guys, big exciting names just aren’t part of the plan. The NE way is to sign unheralded, maybe under utilized players that live and breathe football and work within the system to make an impact. I don’t see that changing regardless of who leaves. The great thing about the NFL is there is plenty of talent available for everyone, the difference between winning and losing is finding the right guys for your system. Defense is all about the team aspect and handling your role. Unlike offense, where you must have quality execution on every play from your QB for your team to be successful, the defense does not have to rely as heavily on one player. That is why the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. That being said though, having an impact — by that I mean big hitting, as well as field general — safety is a key component on winning teams and will most likely be the only position TD might spend some money on. I myself like Jermaine Phillips from TB, but I trust TD to find the guy that is going to best fit into our system. The guy knows his personnel and whether I think the signing is sexy or not, the bottom line is how they perform this fall not whether you know who he is and THINK he’s good. Seriously, was anybody excited about the Foxworth signing last year? Hell no, and he turned into one of my favorite players. I hate to see him go but I trust TD and Coach Smith to make sure his shoes are filled capably. We FINALLY have football people at the core of this organization, not the flavor of the month coach or GM coasting on the successes of his scouting staff. We are in a good place and I only hope it gets better.
On what day did the Lord create Bear Bryant and couldn't he have rested on that day too?
by Col.Angus on Mar 2, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Great point, the same one I keep trying to hammer home.
And, by the way, does it go to 11?
"If the Falcons ever manage to win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I'll french kiss a toilet." - a friend.
by tlozwarlock on Mar 2, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the site!
I couldn’t agree more with almost everything you’re saying. There are guys I’d like them to target and I will be upset if they don’t, but that’s me believing I’m a better judge of talent than TD and Mike Smith. As those of you who know me will attest, that just ain’t true.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 2, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right on
Good job, Dave. The AJC’s Mark Bradley linked to you in his “Bradley’s Buzz.”
by Tron5000 on Mar 2, 2009 11:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I saw that
Apparently I haven’t alienated every single person in the world yet! Happy for the link, too.
by Dave the Falconer on Mar 2, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet!
Props Dave.
" No, I think I'll sit in the balcony " - Abe Lincoln
by tapate50 on Mar 2, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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