Musings on the safety position...
So, Lawyer Milloy is gone. Want to know why? Peter King's got the details:
"3. I think if you want to know why the Atlanta Falcons whacked safety Lawyer Milloy on Sunday night, all you need to know is this: He was a gigantic pain in the rear end. Clubhouse lawyer, yakker, complainer. Totally not a Mike Smith, one-for-all, all-for-one guy." MMQB, Monday February 23, 2009.
Anyone heard anything more about this? I knew his on the field performance had declined, but did anyone know that he was a locker-room cancer too? I always thought he was one of those "fading veteran leadership presence" guys.
At the combine, we interviewed two possible replacements, Alabama S Rashad Johnson and Missouri S William Moore. Both project to be SS. If not them, the FA class is rather thin at the safety position. Ravens S Jim Leonhard would be an upgrade, as would (franchised) Rams S O. Atogwe.
I think we'd all prefer to Leonhard or Atogwe and use the high pick for a linebacker, but if none of those options pan out I have a couple other ideas I want to run by you guys.
1. Solve our possible glut of cornerbacks and our safety problem with one fell swoop: Move Von Hutchins back to free safety for the time being, and shift Erik Coleman over to SS.
2. Sign free-agent SS Gibril Wilson (the guy who hates your running back), and make him a run-down SS and use the aforementioned Coleman/Hutchins combo on obvious passing situations.
As an aside, I know Wilson isn't considered an elite safety by any stretch of the imagination, but he was 7th in the entire NFL with run plays with 87 (and best safety by far; runner-up was Milloy with 58), and his average stop was after only 4.7 yards (average is somewhere around 6.7-7 yards), so he could more than replace Lawyer Milloy's run-stopping production. Can he really be as bad as Milloy at covering the pass?
3. Make Thomas DeCoud the starter at FS/SS.
Any thoughts? These are obvious worst-case scenarios in my eyes, but are they really THAT bad?
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the only reason Wilson gets those numbers….two words….proper nouns….Nnamdi Asomugha.
He doesnt have to worry about supporting Asomugha over his shoulder and can freely roam unless covering the slot. We dont have that calibre of corner and Wilson isnt too hot in coverage and so it just wouldnt work.
go hard or go home
If we get Johnson, I'll be proud, being a Tide fan.
But I’d be pining over Moore.
"If the Falcons ever manage to win a Super Bowl in my lifetime, I'll french kiss a toilet." - a friend.
Excellent post ...
I like no. 2 and 3.
If we can’t find the talent we want in the draft, it makes sense that TD would pursue the diamond S in the FA rough.
Option 1 scare me for two reasons. First, Von is coming off a season-ending injury … so his recovery is still a work-in-progress. Moreover, he plays CB at a replacement level, so I’m not entirely convinced he’d be a better option than DeCoud.
"He's getting better, but he's not there yet ..."
- Bobby Cox (talking about Boyer)
2, then 3 for me.
Makes sense on paper anyway based on past performance of those guys. The coaching staff seems to fell that DeCoud is ready yo step up, or at least they want him to. I say give the guy a shot and see if he can handle it. you would need a decent backup in the hole in case he goes up in flames.
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by Hardcore Falcon on Feb 26, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions
I was surprised by that quote too
I’d like to have as many DB options as possible, so any of those sound decent. But I’m not sure I agree about the FA class being that thin.
Jermaine Phillips, Sean Jones, James Butler, heck, even Yeremiah Bell if they don’t think DeCoud’s ready to start.
And I’ll go on record to say that I don’t think Jim Leonhard’s anything special. He was helped by being on a great D, and he just did his job. I think if Dawan Landry’s back from his injury, they’ll let him walk and not think twice.
Some signings today...
Bell got resigned by the Dolphins today, and (as Dave the Falconer said earlier) Wilson got signed by the Dolphins today.
Here are the available safeties:
Lawyer Milloy, Falcons, Jim Leonhard, Ravens. Mike Brown, Bears. Brandon McGowan, Bears. Cameron Worrell, Bears. Mike Adams, Browns. Sean Jones, Browns. Chris Crocker, Bengals. Marlon McCree, Broncos. Keith Davis, Cowboys. Nick Ferguson, Texans. C.C. Brown, Texans. Eugene Wilson, Texans. Matt Giordano, Colts. Pieroson Prioleau, Jaguars. Gerald Sensabaugh, Jaguars. Oliver Celestin, Chiefs. Jon McGraw, Chiefs. Renaldo Hill, Dolphins. Michael Boulware, Vikings. Darren Sharper, Vikings. Rodney Harrison, Patriots. James Sanders, Patriots. Tank Williams, Patriots Terrence Holt, Saints. James Butler, Giants. J.R. Reed, Jets. Rashad Baker, Raiders. Sean Considine, Eagles. Brian Dawkins, Eagles. Oshiomogho Atogwe, Rams. (Franchised.) Will Allen, Buccaneers. Jermaine Phillips, Buccaneers. Vincent Fuller, Titans. Mike Green, Redskins
Who do you want?
Do I have to pick?
My 1st choice would be Jermaine Phillips followed by Darren Sharper.
nice job gathering the info!
"Just want the Falcons to win a bowl before I'm gone!"
Thanks
My wish list has a couple of guys who are obvious upgrades, a few guys that are stopgaps, and a few project players.
Jim Leonhard (obvious upgrade)
Jermaine Phillips (obvious upgrade)
Darren Sharper (stopgap)
Sean Considine (project)
Sean Jones (project, kinda. He’s getting too old to be a project anymore)
Matt Giordano (project)
Jim Leonhard
would be such a powerful aquisition that could start making a difference from day one.
I hope the Falcon’s find a jewel or two in this free agency that alleviates a little pressure from our upcoming draft candidates.
by MentallyMIA on Feb 27, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Let's spend a 2nd round pick
What does everyone think about Packers RFA Atari Bigbi? Think he’s worth giving up our 2nd round pick?
He had a great 2007, with 64 tackles, 5 INT, and 3 FF. He played part of 2008 with a bum ankle before going on IR with shoulder and ankle injuries.
Please note that I’m not espousing any particular route for the Comrade to take, I’m just trying to start discussion.
So? What do you think?
I think I'll pass
The guy has highlight reel hits, but he doesn’t even begin to solve our coverage issues. I’m actually a fan of Bigby, but not for a second round pick.
One more post, promise.
Another sleeper Safety pick: Michael Hamlin, Clemson
He was a 4-year starter at SS, named “permanent defensive captain”, and on academic honor roll. Despite Clemson finishing out of the Top 100 in sacks (!), they were still 10th in pass efficiency defense, 12th pass defense, 13th in scoring defense, and 18th in total defense. [all stats from NCAA.org]
He’s not amazingly skilled athletically (well, compared to other NFL players. He’d still beat the pants off any of us at any athletic competition), and his combine results reflected that. But, after film study, you begin to appreciate his football skill. He’s tight in coverage, gets early jumps on the ball, and plays consistently.
If we draft anyone after the first round, I want this kid.
He's an option late
If Domonique Foxworth, Chauncey Davis, Keith Brooking and Michael Boley all leave, I think strong safety becomes less of a priority because of our ability to move Thomas DeCoud up to a starting role. I have no problem taking on a polished kid with some upside.
to add to that Dave
if Foxworth, Davis, Brooking and Boley leave, the Falcons will be left with about 8 question marks on defense lol… Milloy is already gone, and I expect Gardner to be released. Wow! thats alot of holes. I hope the Falcons are quite active in free agency and utilize the draft like last year. When you think about the defense issues, it sure makes the tight end look like we wont be drafting one.
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by Edgecrusher211 on Feb 26, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions
id love
to get jermaine phillips from the bucs. hes a really good football player.
by iloveroddywhite on Feb 27, 2009 1:36 AM EST reply actions
Damn
We lost a lot of guys already. What do you guys think about us getting Derrick Brooks or Takeo Spikes? Spikes is from GA, so maybe he would like to come home… LOL.
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by Hardcore Falcon on Feb 27, 2009 10:35 AM EST reply actions
heres a idea
why dont the falcons just talk to brian dawkins the ex eagle and give him a 2 year contract he doesnt have that many years left he’ll take what he can get and theres a short term fix

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