Falcons And Eagles Recap: Hitting Bottom, Bouncing Back
If the Falcons had deliberately gone out against the Eagles and vowed to collectively play the worst football fans had seen in years, I'm not sure they could've put up a display that was more disheartening than the one we saw yesterday.
The negatives were numerous. The positives were paltry. The Falcons were dealing with a host of injuries and somehow still managed to play well below my admittedly light expectations on Sunday. Just thinking about it makes me angry. There's almost nothing good I can say about it, and that will be reflected in my weekly highlights and lowlights.
Yet I'm also struck by the idea that the Falcons have hit rock bottom, a low so low that surpassing it would require a giant drill and a team of molemen. Even if this team was to lose every game for the rest of the season, it can't get much worse than this. I know that shouldn't serve as any kind of comfort for me, but in a strange ways, it really does. I feel like there's a chance, however slim, that they will coming roaring back in these last few games and push their way to a winning season. Just don't ask me to explain why.
Of course, you know the season's really gone south when the most comforting thing I can possibly say is, "Hey, I've got a good feeling about this!" Let's all just hope that for once in my life, my hunch is right.
If you've got the stomach for it, I'm breaking this beast down after the jump.
HIGHLIGHTS
- Nice job, Roddy White. On Sunday you were the only target worth a damn on the entire field, apparently, and you made the most of your chances. Let no one question your heart, because you looked like you were angry. You looked like you cared the entire game, and your last second touchdown is evidence of that. Big kudos.
- Lawrence Sidbury, congratulations on your first NFL sack! Kroy Biermann, congratulations on notching another one. I'm so starved for highlights that you guys are both getting a free pass for anything you may or may not have done for the rest of the game.
- Michael Koenen is a very, very good punter, and I am very grateful for that.
LOWLIGHTS
- Some of you may be aware of the fact that I am a big St. Louis Cardinals fan. A couple of you may know that Albert Pujols is my favorite baseball player by a very wide margin. If Pujols decides to leave the team in free agency someday, I will always cherish what he's done for my favorite team. When he comes to town, I'll applaud those contributions before the game. I'll recall the way he put the Cardinals on his back so many times, when there was absolutely no one else capable of doing so. Time and the change of teams won't change that.
But guess what will happen when the first pitch is thrown and then later, when Pujols comes up to bat? I will root against him. I will pump my fist when he strikes out, assuming he ever does strike out. During those nine innings, I won't give a crap about what Pujols meant to me for years. He's with the enemy now, and all I care about is the uniform.
That's the type of fan I've been my whole life. The team, and the team's success, comes above almost anything. That's why it was so hard for me to sit there on Sunday, listening to Falcons fans chant for Michael Vick in a game where the Falcons looked about as bad as I'd ever seen them look. That's why I was angry that a man whose indifference towards the Falcons during his time on the team nearly submarined the entire franchise, and who now is being remembered wistfully for being a slightly above average quarterback who was thrilling to watch. I'm glad he's doing well now and appears to have turned his life around, but during a game against the Falcons? He's a guy in an Eagles uniform who is helping that team beat our sorry asses, and there's no way in hell I'm going to take time out during a game we eventually lost 34-7 to applaud the progress he's made as a human being. In my eyes and perhaps my eyes alone, that's not what being a fan of the Atlanta Falcons is about. It's being a fan of one player above the entire franchise, and it really makes me question where the thought process of a lot of people in the Dome yesterday. I try to be as flexible as I possibly can, but this is one issue where I'm afraid I cannot and will not change my mind.
And now you know why, for me, hearing Falcon fans cheering for Vick was a bitter disappointment. My only request, given that I don't expect either side of this issue to fully embrace the other, is that we don't start tearing eachothers' heads off over it. Cool? Cool. - Speaking of bitter disappointments, I don't think Chris Redman could've been much worse than he was for the better part of three-and-a-half quarters Sunday. He was extremely inaccurate and looked like the next hit in the pocket would be the last one he'd ever take. He turned from a Camaro to a pumpkin so fast you would have thought Prince Charming was hot on his heels, glass slipper in hands. I don't know what else I can say.
- The coaching staff did a lot of things I didn't agree with on Sunday, but nothing was more baffling than the way they divvied up running and passing plays. They routinely tried going up the gut, then abandoned the run entirely for a very long stretch, then got to the goal line and ran the...wait for it...exact same damn play four times in a row. It might not have been exact and it might have been 11 times. I was blinded with rage at the time.
What the hell is the point of that? A balanced offensive game plan is not balanced because you have 44 passes and 25 runs if you throw 20 times in a row and run 15. That's not how it works! If we're really going to make a run at the end of the season, the play calling has to improve dramatically. - Too many fumbles. Even Special Weems got in on the action, graciously giving the Eagles the ball at one point. He's such a polite young man.
- On defense, there's one statement that sums up the Falcons' day: They got gashed by a fullback. Yes, I know. Leonard Weaver is a good fullback. He is not, however, a magical one, who fades into nothingness just as a linebacker goes to hit him and reappears in mid-air ten yards downfield, laughing the crystal-clear laugh of the forest people. He's a goddamn fullback.
THE WRAPUP
Game MVP: Michael Koenen. He did his darndest to ensure that the Falcons could stay in this one, three times punting the ball inside the Eagles' 20. Sadly, this effort was in vain.
Game Theme Song: Like sad trombone, but not quite.
One Thing To Take Away: We played our worst game of the season Sunday, and I will guarantee that. It's all uphill from here.
Next Week: The New Orleans Saints, who locked up the division after narrowly beating the Washington Redskins yesterday. You can find out more about the Saints (if you really want to) over at Canal Street Chronicles.
Final Word: Damn.
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Okay, Here We Go Again...
I’ve been watching the Falcons since their inception. More often than not, I’ve had to head for the bathroom to be sick over the sheer incompetence I witnessed. Yesterday, however, was a new low in “mailing it in”. We all need to remember that the players and coaches get paid obscene amounts of money, whether or not they produce wins. If our jobs had resembled the Falcons’ performance yesterday, we’d all be unemployed. We ran four straight times on the goal line because Redman couldn’t have hit the bed of a stalled pickup truck with a cantaloupe. Oh, wait, someone says…Redman threw the TD pass at the end of the game. I didn’t exactly notice the Eagles defense trying to bust up that drive. Even the Eagles knew that the Falcons had been embarrassed enough, by THEIR OWN FANS, in THEIR OWN HOUSE. I never thought I’d see the day when we could be as appalling as the first Falcons squad, who had exactly ONE actual player, named Tommy Nobis. Mr. Nobis would’ve de-cleated that guy who took a leak on the franchise. And good morning to you, Dave.
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 7, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rumor has it
That Matt Ryan is playing against the saints no matter what. I hope that is a good sign, because he can’t be any worse than yesterday.
Do you think those were actual Falcons fans at the stadium cheereing for Vick, or just people who bought tickets for only this game and were amplified because all the Falcons fans (not Vick fans) left early?
by MostlyCorndog on Dec 7, 2009 8:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
im happy to have Matt
back but if hes still hurting alot id sit him this season is kinda a lost cause no point having Matt get seriously hurt for no reason
by Erihury on Dec 7, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed.
At some point, we may have to decide whether getting the winning season is really that important if it means risking serious long-term injuries to key players. I know 9-7 would mean a lot to some of the fans here, but surely we need to look to the future as well.
by Ignoramus on Dec 7, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
8-8... 7-9... 6-10... it's all the same
if the Falcons can’t get back to back winning seasons, who cares… really? I mean, sure it’s something to hope for in a season that has become completely and utterly abismal in all other categories and especially in the optimism category, but really, what does 9-7 do for the team? NOTHING. Okay, good… get over it… move on.
Tony G said he’s coming back next year.
Matt Ryan, Micheal Turner, the O-Line, OUR DRAFT CLASS OF 09, our Wes Welker (HD), and others I’m sure I forgot to mention will all be back for 2010.
This isn’t our year… oh well, move on. The franchise has a bright future. At least that is something to hang your hat on.
I think the “process” that caught the team off guard last year tempered our hopes in the wrong direction. It is still very much a process and at least when we look at the team we can see all the pieces coming together.
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 7, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Yeah
And if we do go 9-7 this year, people will just say “Oh, the Falcons -they’ve never even had three winning seasons in a row!” There will always be some stupid stat that people can throw at us.
Basically, IMO, the only one that really counts is that we’ve never won a Superbowl. Nothing else matters.
by Ignoramus on Dec 7, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If....
we’re gonna have a 8-8 season I’d just assume have a 6-10 season at least get a better draft pick
by gritzblitz on Dec 7, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
If we can’t get that elusive back to back winning season, might as well tank it (play the backups!) for a better rookie next year.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What would Knute Rockne say to this?
You can’t overlook the importance of building a winning mentality and we’re still in rebuilding mode. We’d be lucky to go 9-7 but you can’t just give up and go home. Thats not how it works. You play as hard as possible to win them all. The only exception is you don’t take any risks with Ryan, Turner or anybody else
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 8, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying "quit"
I’m saying play the backups. What good does it do us if we’re eliminated from the playoffs and can’t play spoiler to anyone? After the Saints, we play one team with playoff hopes (Jets). If we lose to them, what good is it really going to do by playing our banged up starters? Let the backups play against the Bills/Bucs and give them precious game experience. That could mean the difference between a starter and a scrub next year. If we get eliminated from the playoffs, winning, while a nice boost to morale, helps almost nothing else except increase risk of injury to our already wounded players.
Do you remember the ‘07 draft? What player went one pick before ours? One Adrian Peterson of the Minnesota Vikings. There’s going to be some outstanding players coming in the draft next year. I would rather lose out for a better draft pick than win out on games that don’t really matter. I say that only because I know how good of a core this team has. If we were a loser team (which we aren’t) playing like that would upset me. We have to play for the future, not the end of a meaningless season (if it comes to that). Make sense?
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 8, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
would you agree that
a player drafted in the top of the draft may still turn out to be a bust?
so while in general this may be better to be positioned higher in the draft, it’s not an automatic Adrian Peterson.
what can, however, be harmful is losing out to get better draft position.once you get that mentality you will in fact lose out, and it won’t do anything good to players’ morale and to us, fans. but I do agree completely that we should let some backups play, no need to risk Ryan and Turner.
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by Gemini-RU on Dec 9, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's true
Not every player drafted in the 1st round will turn out to be what’s expected. Heck, most of them don’t.
However, the potential is there. I’m not suggesting that if we move up one spot, we’ll snatch an Adrian Peterson type player instead of a JA98 type player.
However, in this 3 year plan that Comrade/Coach Smitty have laid down before us, we now have very, very specific needs. The better we do record wise, the farther we get pushed down the draft board, hurting our chances of landing the specific player we need (because of all the other actual bad teams that have so many needs and draft BPA which may coincide with our specific need)
Could we still land a solid player that we need? Sure, I don’t doubt Comrade is capable of finding one, but when you compare an 8-8 lost season to a 6-10 lost season for a draft pick, the only negative would be fan/player morale, and to be honest, it really is as low as I’ve ever seen it right now. Most….if not ALL of the good players reset their negativity on just about every play. And you have to, else you won’t make it in the league. An offseason of let-down will bring up one of two things.
1) More let down (caused from a passive team/coach)
2) A desire to come back stronger than ever (caused from a passionate, fiery coach/team, which we have)
We could be saving career jeopardizing injuries by resting our stars. Heck, we may even win with the backups. I’m not suggesting that losing out should bring in a losing mentality, it should be looked at as an investment for the future by improving our chances at a better player, not only in the first round, but the rounds beyond that. (And also a chance to rest some weary bodies. Turner’s body could use it, I’m sure.)
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 9, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
if we continue playing like we played vs Philly, I’d prefer a 6-10 season and a higher draft position ;)
actually, what I wanted to say is that since we’re probably not going to make it into playoffs (and therefore should keep our stars safe) the only thing worth watching is not even a winning season but the spirit of our backups. if our backups play like they want to be starters, and we still lose, we would be happy, wouldn’t we?
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by Gemini-RU on Dec 10, 2009 6:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
on paper they will all be healthy for 2010
but you know someone else will get injured or reinjured before and during next season (uncapped barring some miracle), so we can’t count on 2010 being a rebound year. If only there was a way to clinically reduce injuries and it’s severeness.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember, last year the Saints had the injury bug hit them bad, too.
They went 8-8, I believe.
They made a few key moves in the offseason, and now they’re on fire. Their offense has been sputtering for years, and now it has caught fire.
I’m sticking by what Coach Smith said. This is a 3 year plan. He knew all along that even if it looked good, he wouldn’t put too much bank on it until his system was completely in place. I believe.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed too
but at this point what’s the worse that could happen? Their season will be over soon and he’ll have 8 to 9 more months to heal up any more injuries he substains.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we hit the low point last week
Thats pretty much it.Last week I really thought that we had hit the bottom.I was wrong and I admit it.Mr. Redman is a good quarterback when he “comes in”.I have seen it.When he has a start he does just what he did yesterday.Way to conservative.To shifty I don’t know “scared” comes to mind.But I know Red is not scared.He just tries too hard.None the less pitiful would be the word.Having watched the Falcons for all the years I must sat that yesterday was all too familiar.
As far as M Vick coming in and rubbing our noses in shit.I think a little payback will be in order.The only thing that keeps it from being even more insulting is the fact that he hurt himself.If the Eagles are patting themselves on the back I do not understand why.They beat what I consider the absolute worse team in the NFL.
by JT131 on Dec 7, 2009 8:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
absolute?
i wouldnt go that far
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
by maxxj3 on Dec 7, 2009 9:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
look at the team
in their current condition, the way they played yesterday, with the lack of true starters – do you think they could beat the Rams?
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 7, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
so “absolute” is a bit too far.
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 7, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing is absolute
but that team could have been in the class of 2009 Rams, or Browns…
by Gemini-RU on Dec 7, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Lions would give ATL a super bowl-like game, methinks.
That’s how sad it was, yesterday.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lions (with Stafford)
would be better than Falcons without Ryan/Turner
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by Gemini-RU on Dec 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe.
It’d still be a good game. As a fan of all things Georgia, I was super happy to see him get some wins this year. That being Stafford.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
That was a gut-punch of a game. Redman just doesn’t look like he’s going to score points in the NFL, especially with a broken O-line and second-string running backs who can’t take the pressure off him (not their fault necessarily, dumb playcalling in many cases as Dave highlighted).
I was texting a friend of mine during the game, and he was saying “we should have taken Vick back”. I sort of see what he means, in that, frankly, Vick would probably be a better backup QB than Redman. I can also see why he and many other people still cheer for Vick – a lot of people got into watching the Falcons because it was exciting to watch Vick play, and it’s hard not to retain affection for players who make you love a team, or even a whole sport. As a newbie last year, it was Michael Turner destroying the Lions that really got me into the game – and if next year the cops find a bunch of dead hookers in his basement or something, I’ll probably still want to make excuses for him. Because for me, he and Ryan ARE the Falcons.
Of course, if you’ve been a fan for years and years and you remember lots of different teams and players, you’re not so likely to get so invested in individuals. But a lot of people who started supporting the team in 2001 probably saw being Falcons fans and being Vick fans as one and the same thing, so they have trouble dealing with the disconnect now.
That said… from my point of view, screw Michael Vick! I hope he has fun playing second fiddle to McNabb with the Eagles – they’re a mediocre team and we made them look good yesterday. I reckon with Matty and the Burner, we’d have destroyed them.
by Ignoramus on Dec 7, 2009 9:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
also...
Is Redman like 3 feet tall or what? How come his passes kept getting batted by the Eagles D-line?
by Ignoramus on Dec 7, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Redman is 6ft 3in
only one inch shorter than Ryan
This could mean two things
1 His mechanics (redman) makes him throw the ball lower.
2 it is the Eagles Defense that gave Delhomme many problems too. They commonly tip passes and force turn overs with good timing.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering...
After the game was lost why we didnt put in John Parker Wilson? I mean, once the 4th qtr came on we were so far in the hole and not doing anything right in the passing game, so why not?
Also, why run Norwood up the middle?
On a good note, we were getting some pressure on McNabb with only 3 linemen.
And those that were rooting for Vick…thanks for rooting against your own team! I mean, COME ON!!!! If you root for an opposing player you are rooting for the other team. I wonder how many “closet eagles” fans we had out there (aka Vick fans)?
by muuzilla on Dec 7, 2009 9:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wondered that myself
The coaching staff must feel he’s not ready for real game action.
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they didn't want to be shutout.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
If they were just trying to avoid the shoutout, they could’ve taken the figgie on one of several occasions.
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they didn't want to be shutout, but thought FGs were for pansies.
Or maybe Elam’s Ghost made Coach Smith forget FGs existed.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great Elam's Ghost!
I’m keeping that one handy…
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by orang3b on Dec 8, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolute is the word
I bounced around yesterday and watched the browns and saw some rams and watched some bucs and the lions.All of them at least seemed like they wanted to play.Yesterday the Falcons played like they were going to the gallows right after the game .The Eagles did not play an inspired game.They beat us with at least one hand tied behind their back.Easily.We have hit bottom.Hopefully.I mean let us get down with the facts.We were horrible.OK now that we have established that fact lets start the “process”.It only can get better.
by JT131 on Dec 7, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
they had both hands and legs tied behind them (hogtied). The Eagles made due with headbutting us. Because as you said they Eagles didn’t play that well either, and headbutting can hurt both people.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, no!
I hate to admit this but it’s getting to the point where being a Falcons fan isn’t fun anymore! God, I love them, always have, always will but it is starting to be hard to watch them. Let alone cheer for them. When it hurts to care about something it makes one question everything and everyone. I’m not sure I understand anything about the team that I love with all my heart anymore…
by Gjmoody on Dec 7, 2009 9:40 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The AJC idiots crack me up
They’re clamoring for Van Gorder’s job. Does anyone look at the personnel hand he’s been dealt the last two years? That defense last year got by on smoke and mirrors and this year has been decimated by injury. He’s a great defensive coach and once this team is healthy he can coach with the best of them.
It’s just hilarious to me as a Dawgs fan, because I know a place 80 miles east of Atlanta that would take him back with open arms.
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by AuditDawg on Dec 7, 2009 9:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm about ready to say you guys can have him back
He’s never proven himself to be a “great defensive coach” in the NFL. If the only time you can get good results is when your defensive talent is roughly twice as talented as the offense you’re facing (as is the case most Saturdays in Athens), you’re just not a great coach.
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta disagree with your last statement
If the only time you can get good results is when your defensive talent is roughly twice as talented as the offense you’re facing (as is the case most Saturdays in Athens), you’re just not a great coach.
It doesn’t really matter how great of a coach you are if you don’t have players. Bill Belichick was pretty damned bad in Cleveland, but now we consider him one of the best coaches of all time. What happened between then and now? Very simply, the talent level in New England is light years ahead of what he had in Cleveland.
To quote Jimmy Johnson, “It’s not about the X’s and O’s, it’s about the Jimmy’s and Joe’s”. And frankly, the Falcons defense has a lot of Hal’s and Steve’s and no Jimmy’s and Joe’s. Simple as that.
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by AuditDawg on Dec 7, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think
The talent gap in the NFL is a heck of a lot closer than when he was at UGA, that’s all.
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah you're definitely a Dawgs fan
From day one he hasn’t coached them right, because BVG does have talent on his staff, and they aren’t in the right position, he doesn’t teach them adjustments, and to look for the ball. It’s like they play to let them catch the ball then tackle them. It should be use the receivers as a guide stay with them, stay on the inside track, read the QB and either knock the ball away, or become a receiver and make a play. And they haven’t used Grimes lately who’s pretty good despite his size.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm ...
Maybe those zone blitzs work when your DEs are 18-22 yrs olds, but in the NFL, where receivers and backs are considered “slow” when their 40 time exceeds 4.5 seconds, not so much.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow, I don't feel that bad
I pretty much expected the curb-stomping that we got, and you can make a case that it wasn’t really as bad as the final score made it seem:
1) 7 points given to them because of the short field after the Weems fumble.
2) obviously left points out there by not punching in that 4th down just before the half.
3) they were in scoring position when Redman threw the pick-6.
Imagine if you take away 14 from them and give us 6… does a 20-13 loss make you feel any better? I mean, they only outgained us 380-295 (although they still got 10.3 YPA passing).
Also, look closer at Redman’s stats: 23/44 – 235 yds – 1 TD – 2 INT. I know he looked pretty bad, but that is very similar to Matt Ryan’s stat-line from his past few weeks. The Eagles have a very good defense. We have a broken offense. I don’t think Redman “sucks”.
As for the fans cheering for kciV – I choose to ignore it. They’re not Falcons fans, in my mind anyway. It is another good reason why people make fun of Atlanta as a sports town, though.
Somewhere, there is a silver lining to all this…
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 10:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Redman's stat line was boosted by garbage time.
Did you see how he played in the first 3 quarters? I’ve never seen Matt play that bad. And as much as his stats may look similar to some of Matt’s worst games, outside of the Dallas game, we were in a position to win almost every one, even as deep into those games as the 4th quarter.
The defense, as bad as they are, kept us in that game yesterday. The vast majority of passes from Redman were absolutely awful. His accuracy was terrible. The offense was missing Ryan’s leadership. The no huddle would’ve helped us yesterday immensely.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 7, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's the "clutch" factor
when Matt Ryan is in there, you feel like you still have a chance being down by 20 points in the second half. When you have Matt Ryan commanding the offense, you feel like you might see a team that can put it all together and make something happen when it really counts.
After it took Redman EIGHT tries to score from 10 yards out to win against the Bucs, he made it quite obvious that he wasn’t the clutch player that can lead this player to success.
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 7, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Exactly. Even though Matt is so young, he always seems to be able to carry this team through it’s toughest of times. Look at the Giants game. Yeah Tony G was pretty damn clutch in the second half, but Matt was the general that had that train rolling.
I greatly missed watching him play yesterday.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 7, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
With the 8 tries from 10 yds against the Bucs. That’s definately a negative for Redman, even though he helped us pull out that win…
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't neccessarily agree
Ryan is likely the better QB, but so far he hasn’t led us to any victories after being down by a large margin. Ryan is more familiar with the Offense than Redman, Redman has only played two games under Mike Smith in the regular season. Redman has the skills to do just about the same, although Ryan if not now is likely best suited for doing what needs to be done.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A couple of Ryan's stat-lines
Week 8 @ NO: 19/42 – 289 yds – 1 TD – 3 INT
Week 10 @ CAR: 22/41 – 224 yds – 1 TD – 2 INT
Yes, if you exclude the first pass in the 4Q (which was the pick-6), Redman was 9/12 for 88 yds and the one TD. My point was simply that the Eagles have a good defense, and that our whole offense is broken. I still think Redman is a decent backup QB. In no way do I think he is as good as Ryan or gives us as good of a chance to win as Ryan.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
the offense looks much better when it runs the no huddle. Mularkey needs to go. I’m absolutely sick of his play calling.
And yeah those 2 games you quoted are similar stat lines, but we were at least in a position to win those games at some point. This game felt lost to me at half time. The energy was gone from the team, and the real fans, once we didn’t score that TD to end the half. If we try DIFFERENT DAMN PLAYS instead of the same 4 to end that drive, maybe the whole game would have been different.
So yes Redman is a serviceable backup. I need to cut him some slack. In a QB drive league it’s damn hard to win with a backup qb, unless you’re the Pats.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 7, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about BVG
I think Mularkey is okay. I was worried that the Falcons would not have him this season eariler
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think what hurt with Redman
Was that his weaknesses as a quarterback match up all too well with the strengths of the Eagles defense. I could be completely off the mark here, but I do believe Ryan’s ability to get rid of the ball more quickly could have made this game a bit more tolerable.
And while I respect the fact that we had three clear “what ifs,” the Falcons managed to screw up each and every one of them. In this particular case, I’m not sure we were going to sniff 20-13 without a miracle.
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I was just trying to bring a bit of positivity around here, since the team didn’t give us much of a reason to think that way.
Another thing that hurt Redman: No Turner, no Jenkins, no Baker, no Dahl.
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think no Jenkins hurt him most of all
He seems to have a natural rapport with the guy, and without him he seemed incapable of finding anyone not named Roddy White.
Frankly, I think we’re going to get that winning season. I think we’re going to give the Saints a run for their money. I just don’t have any fancy “reason” or “logic” or “common sense” to back that “up.”
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know whether to be confused or delighted
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was an episode of Friends where Joey couldn't figure out how ...
to use “quotation fingers.” He’d do it no matter what, even when it wasn’t call for. Not saying that is what you were doing, but it reminded me of it.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
I “remember” that “now.”
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah good point DAVE
Jenkins and Redman are like Vick and Crumpler, or Ryan/Redman(at times) and Gonzalez
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I don’t think he was that bad either (redman) even though it was garbage time. He was playing the Eagles, had a lack of talent, rhythm, and he was a little off. His receiver couldn’t catch the ball, the line couldn’t protect him, the running game couldn’t get going, and defense kept him off the field. Even Ryan gets off to slow starts. I’m not sure if we would have won with turner and ryan in.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I definitely have a sick feeling today.
I can handle games where my team plays like trash, but why did it have to be this game. This is the game that I wanted to smash the Eagles face in. Not just for the Vick thing, but for 2004, last seasons loss, because it’s PHILLY. Ugh.
I didn’t hear the We Want Vick chants, because I left the dome after the pick 6. My wife wanted me to leave after the first Vick TD, and how the crowd reacted to it. I said no, it’s only 20 points I still have hope they’ll wake up. I was wrong, and I’m glad I left. I want to believe that a lot of the real fans were either too disgusted to cheer, or just had flat out left the dome, when those we want vick cheers, were going on. He did get quite a lot of boo’s from the start. If the team would have showed up yesterday, maybe those of us that realize what he did to us would have had the drive to continue the booing. Hell my voice was almost completely gone by the end of the second quarter, even with how terrible the team was playing.
The one thing that this shows us is how divided this fan base is. A lot of it, almost 100% of it, is down racial lines too. It’s sad that this is what all of this has come to. I understand cheering for Mike before the game, but like the original post states, cheering for him when he scores against your team, with a score that effectively ends the game, is just disturbing, disgusting, and embarassing.
My Falcons pride has taken a hit. I’ll be there Sunday like usual, but I’m not nearly as pumped for that Saints game as I was after our showing against them on MNF.
I pray to the football gods that Matty Ice’s toe healed magically over night, and we can get our QB back. Redman was painful to watch.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 7, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I could not have said this better myself:
From Charles Robinsons Winners and Losers Column of Yahoo.com
Atlanta Falcons fans
I don’t have a problem with all Falcons fans – only the morons who were chanting "We want Vick!" in the midst of Sunday’s ugly 34-7 loss for the Falcons. Vick has paid his debt and all that, but that chant is disrespectful to what the new regime is building. The team is going through a horrible run of injuries and is struggling right now. But that Vick chant is a joke. Your new coaches, players and front office deserve better.
by MostlyCorndog on Dec 7, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
if the coaches, players, and front office
can’t handle that, that is the reason we’re so soft right now.
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
by maxxj3 on Dec 7, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What an awful, terrible TEAM.
I guess what really gets to me is watching every struggling, poor, mediocre team in the NFL become suddenly well against the Falcons. This year, reference the Cowboys, Patriots, and Eagles.
I’m not kvetching over this year alone. It was true with the Smith family and it’s true with Mr. Blank. It has been true for fifteen different head coaching administrations. I don’t know how many we’ve had, but the GM doesn’t matter.
The only thing that is consistent, is that the Falcons are the lynch pin for any team to become terrific. Remember how the Cardinals limped into the playoffs last year? All they needed was to play the A-birds in the first round to launch them into the Superbowl. Here’s the conspiracy theorist at work: everyone has their role. The Falcons’ role is to be built up as a semi-competent opponent in order to be knocked down by anyone who pays the Commissioner whatever a victory is worth.
If I could quit, I would…
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
by AnOldBird on Dec 7, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
sounds to me like
it is time to put up another irrational rant thread
know what you believe in and why you believe in it
by MentallyMIA on Dec 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kinda feel better.
“Irrational” is an awfully strong word. It applies beautifully, but it’s still a strong word,
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
by AnOldBird on Dec 7, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya know ...
When complaining is easy, it seems like the traffic around here spikes.
I certainly hope those who have expressed various concerns about the state of this team, franchise, etc. stick around this off-season. Wink.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Got something in your eye?
I think it’s a pretty universal tendency, but I’d certainly hope that the boundless days of optimism that form the off-season will be busy too. It tends to be a ghost town for a couple of months immediately following the season.
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta go somewhere to complain.
Might as well be among friends.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
by AnOldBird on Dec 7, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This year's practically a disaster scenario
Given the fact that most people knew the Falcons had very little depth at most positions, it’s not too surprising that missing 7 starters Sunday would be a calamity. (Not that it sucked any less.) Injuries are a fact of life, and good teams must be prepared for them.
The last 5 weeks have magnified the errors of the coaching staff, rightly or wrongly. Playing Turner so prematurely after the injury was the first real WTF? moment I’ve experienced with the new regime. How could they risk their future so recklessly? I’m still dumbfounded by that decision. The playcalling boners seem to get more egregious every week. Snelling up the middle 4 times? Zone defenses in short passing situations? I can forgive players for being overmatched by superior opponents, but I can’t / won’t gloss over mental errors by the coaching staff; no player on Earth can overcome those.
Most of us probably agree on what the Falcons must do in the offseason. I’m starting to think that Smitty needs to make some changes on his coaching staff as well, injuries notwithstanding.
by tom slick on Dec 7, 2009 11:51 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Agreed
I was never on the Mularkey bandwagon, and I haven’t seen any evidence that BVG can get it done. I wouldn’t be against change in one or both Coordinator spots…
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The question is, who will be available?
I’d love to get Todd Haley as our offensive coordinator if the Chiefs fire him after one year.
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are there rumors he might be fired?
I didn’t think the Hunts worked like that…
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There are only a few
But I’m not sure he’s head coach material.
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 7, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Todd Haley
would be my every off-season dream come true. Possibly even more so than the Tony Gonzalez acquisition.
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 7, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason, I think about Mike Martz
What’s his downside?
by tom slick on Dec 7, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He'll get Matt Ryan killed
almost always 5 in pass routes, protection schemes very low on list of priorities.
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's a pass-first kind of guy.
As orang3b says, if you’re running a pure Martz system, it’ll break your QB.
He had good success with the Rams as OC because Vermeil had a strong opinion on running the ball and balance. As HC with the Rams and OC with the Lions he was pretty one-dimensional. To ba fair to him, that may have been enhanced by playing from behind all the time.
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GO FALCONS!!!
by AnOldBird on Dec 7, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have more a favoratism for Mularkey but I can understand why people don’t like him as of lately. There has been some questionable playcalling such as before the half. I attribute that to the ego of success from last year, because that did work last year, and I believed in their offense last year. Even this year the offense hasn’t be that great, but the Falcons have still managed to score so that’s why I haven’t been lynching Mularkey. BVG, I think should be lynched because i never liked that defense from last season, although they did kinda play well enough last season.
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Jason Garrett?
He’s on the hiring seat every year for HC somewhere, it seems. If we lured him away from Dallas, we might be in business.
Also, someone call Dick LeBeau and pay him an absurd amount of money to get his butt over here.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for OC, of course
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This may sound foolish
But I actually don’t care for Garrett. I think he has some of the same problems Mularkey does, namely not maximizing the potential of his offensive players. The way he handles his running backs in particular is puzzling.
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 8, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can't disagree with you there.
When I finish school next week, I’m gonna be bored enough to do an in depth look at why our supposedly potent offense is struggling, if it’s really the play calling or if there’s something else behind it. Mularkey, as absurd as this may sound, may not be the problem.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 8, 2009 2:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
LALALALALALALALA. No Garrett, no Garrett, no Garrett, no Garrett. LALALALALALALA
by trevbal6 on Dec 8, 2009 7:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agree
the difference between good and great teams can be not just in the quality of their starters but also in the depth. so just saying we lost because we were decimated by injuries is not an excuse.
next year we may run into the same situation (just hoping we get a break in scheduling and don’t end up with a bye week in week 4 and 4-5 fresh teams during the season) unless we have capable backups, although this is obvious.
by Gemini-RU on Dec 7, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Weiss?
Just a thought
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by KDC on Dec 7, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did I get it right?
that at the end of the game, just before the final pass, the Falcons ran the time down to just several seconds? I could barely see what was going on on that sloppy feed, but the gamecast said they had about 30 seconds left before the previous play and only 6 secs before the final play, and they still had 3 TO’s.
by Gemini-RU on Dec 7, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of the next season
does anyone know which divisions we will have in our schedule? I assume it would be NFC West and either AFC South or AFC North -is that right?
by Gemini-RU on Dec 7, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Supposedly NFCW and AFCN
Based on past years, but the NFL only officially announced the rotation through 2009.
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by orang3b on Dec 7, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
NFCW and AFCN, according to Wp. NFCW seems to be the worst NFC divison this year, so that’s a bit of a relief, but the AFCN ist hot as ever. Still, should be an easier schedule that this year.
by wiesengrund on Dec 7, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
NFCW is the worst division every year.
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by orang3b on Dec 8, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Though if not for the Chargers, the AFC West would be right there
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Broncos
Have had 7+ wins for 10 years running – they’re no slouches.
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by orang3b on Dec 8, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to pretend they don't exist
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 8, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ooh, I'm sorry Dave
The answer we were looking for was:
Don’t sell them short, orang – they’re tremendous slouches.
C’mon, I set that one on a tee for ya… As you can see I’ve been using TV and funny movies as the salve for my recent wounds suffered because of our Falcons.
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by orang3b on Dec 9, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, man
If would’ve been easier if you’d put forth “colors that end in ‘urple’”
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by Dave the Falconer on Dec 10, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
I guess I shouldn’t assume everybody else has Caddyshack quotes (and the like) rattling around in their heads at all times…
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by orang3b on Dec 11, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least NFC West
would be a lucky break for us – and for the rest of the division.
And I am assuming the remaining 2 games would come against teams that will finish runner-up in their respective divisions, right? Of course if we finish second in NFC S.
The Saints are having a terrific year and the schedule was also favorable for them because they finished last in NFC S in 2008.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
by Gemini-RU on Dec 7, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trying telling that to any of the "Who dat?"ers out there ...
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
runner-ups
Yup, if we finish 2nd, we’ll probably get Green Bay and a Dallas- Philly- or Giants-rematch thrown into the mix.
by wiesengrund on Dec 7, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Falcons will face
@Pit and @ Cle
vs BAl and vs CIN
@ Sea @ SF
vs Stl vs ARI
vs NFCN @ NFCE
by brotherbrown on Dec 7, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I have to say
the “we want vick” chant broke my heart. when he first came in the game it was mostly boos he got but by the end of the game they were cheering him like he was wearing red and black. I know i said I wouldn’t boo the guy but im sure as hell not gonna cheer him to come in teh game.
by gritzblitz on Dec 7, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cheering Vick
If the cheering and chanting for vick is what really bothered u guys then you are all looking for another reason to be upset besides the fact that the offense couldn’t get it done. The defense played well the first half, and not so bad the second. But if you keep going 3 and out because redman cant get it done then what could be expected. JPW should have got an opportunity to play. Going for it on 4th downs could have been a couple of field goals. If ryan isnt back next week expect more of the same thing. We should be looking for a better backup QB.
by Pharoah_Rah on Dec 7, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Redman is fairly solid (and maybe our best option) ...
I mean, at a certain point, solid back ups become starters. Got any suggestions?
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing happened Sunday that a win over the Saints wouldn’t cure ….
by WarWolf on Dec 7, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
by FrankyWren on Dec 7, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also Rec'd.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that I think about it.
I’m glad that is such a true statement. I’m glad it hasn’t gotten so bad that we lay in a puddle of filth for a month no matter if we won out. Poor Cleveland Browns fans.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 7, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to spoil their perfect season
would be more than enough to redeem mine (and maybe take me back a few weeks from thinking draft).
rec’d
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 8, 2009 6:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we did that
I wouldn’t care if the Dome exploded (with no one in it) the next day, it would make my season. And it would definitely breathe fire into the team. I think all we need is two defensive stops to open the game and at least one good offensive drive in between those 2 stops. If we can do that, I’ll believe we have a chance, albeit a small one.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 8, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suggested they sit Brees for the last 4 games to keep him healthy for the playoffs over on the Saints board.
With the Vikings’ loss and schedule they can likely seal home field advantage without the QB anyway.
Payton may not follow my advice though
Sure hope Drew does not get hurt when the Saints lose in the dome on Sunday – but I advised them to sit him
by WarWolf on Dec 8, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
nice backdoor sneak tactics.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 8, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow Zippo
I just noticed your sig… that was by far one of my favorite highlights from the amazing 08 season. I’ve watched that video over and over again… reading your sig made it all play over again in my head. Good stuff.
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by MentallyMIA on Dec 9, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
I watched that play 1000 times. It is easily my favorite play of all time. Now that you mention that, I need to credit Wes Durham for calling it. But yeah. The instant I saw that play, it made me believe we were gonna be something special, and we were. We still are, this is only a flesh wound.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!"
by Zippo729 on Dec 9, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what made it even more impressive
is that Ryan was not in fact the first person to have a TD on his first pass. but he was the first one to follow up on that with a sensational season.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
by Gemini-RU on Dec 10, 2009 6:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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