Post-Game Thread: Falcons Stumble Late, Drop 26-23 Game To Saints
by Dave Choate on Dec 13, 2009 4:21 PM EST
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What can any of us say at this point?
Throughout this season, I've been accused of being overly positive and overly negative, sometimes in the same week. My views of this team have fluctuated just as much as anybody else's. Today, returning from a rainy New England day of work, I was able to catch the last few minutes of a very close game. It was a compelling effort, but one that ultimately fell short. And that, my friends, is the reality of the 2009 Atlanta Falcons: They're just not quite good enough.
It's time to make peace with that fact. We can still win out and I better than half-expect it, but the playoffs are gone barring a miracle. It's time to recognize that whether by injuries, a lack of talent or a lack of consistent play calling, the team we all love is not as good as we expected. There will be an off-season to come to grips with that fully and watch the Falcons attempt to right the ship, but for now I find myself floating in the ether somewhere. I'm not grounded to any record or vision of the rest of the season, per se. I just expect to see three more football games, and then the sweet oblivion of the off-season.
I want to win. I want to know what it's like to celebrate things other fans take for granted, like back-to-back playoff berths or a Super Bowl win. I want to be able to bust on my friends when their team loses without them (correctly) pointing out the Falcons' seemingly endless laundry list of failures. I want it so bad it hurts.
For now, though, we can only hope for the best and aim for the off-season. One hopes that this time next year, we won't be in the same boat, plugging a million tiny holes with our fingers and toes. It may not be what we deserve—because I don't know what any fanbase truly deserves—but it's what we want. For once, I'd like that to be good enough.
Consider this your post-game discussion thread, folks. I'll see you around.
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What is the damn point of this F'N season now?
We need to revamp our F’N secondary and Coaching Staff. We should also lose out. Why win any more games when we can get a good position in the draft with 6 wins
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Dec 13, 2009 4:26 PM EST reply actions
I guess I just don't believe in that
Sure, I’d like the better draft position. But I want to win. We have to win.
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i agree with Dave
you have to play for pride. a culture of winning doesn’t give up because the going gets tough.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
agreed
after all, even a 1-15 finish with the top draft ranking brings NO promises. there won’t be another Ryan coming up any time soon.
and before we even think about who we need next year in our defence (assuming Ryan and Turner are back), we should seriously think about our chances with Mularkey and BVG
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
To me a winning season is only good if we make the playoffs...
At this point doesnt look like we will. I say lose out and maybe try to get someone like Taylor Mays
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Dec 13, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Mays is a safety, we need corners.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
DeCoud is good, Coleman will be replaced by Moore.
We need a #1 DB and a pass rush. After that, we’ll be alright.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
We need a pass rush MUCH MORE than DBs in the draft...
As I said below, a pass rush would make our current DB crop look a lot better.
I think you're right
We need an absolute beast off the edge. Abe isn’t getting any younger and the rest of the guys are good supporting pass rushers, but not ready to become starters yet.
by LetsGoFalcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm willing to wait one more year on a blue chip DE
Remember, Beerman was nowhere to be found his rookie year, he’s had an ok year this year. I think Sidbury will be the same way. They aren’t bulked up like they need to be yet. This offseason will change that. I expect Sid to take Abe’s spot and be a force to be reckoned with.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
I agree
I’m hoping for a great DE pick in the 1st round. I still think we need a big boy in the middle of the line. Did anyone say Wilfork? (just a little wishful thinking)
I know this probably wont happen
but taking Derrick Morgan in the first round would be sooo sick. Then we could take someone like Arenas or long-name-Rowling in the 3rd round.
yep, moore will be back
and i just think he will be better than Coleman. DeCoud is playing solid.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
I suggested we tank it before, but not anymore.
9 wins is still attainable. We need a good finish to this season. It could make their offseason workouts much more fiery
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
What good is going high in the draft if you can't draft any better guys
TD has been known for his drafting talents, and with NE, he had to always draft low. Regardless the Falcons will have a higher pick than last year barring miracles. What good will it do to “Shut it down”?
by brotherbrown on Dec 16, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
Very well said, Dave.
It’s the truth, and the truth hurts, but it doesn’t harm you.
I have to blame injuries for this season being shot. We’ve just been hit in key positions, and it’s showed. We were a patchwork team on defense before our injuries, now we need LifeAlert.
I don’t know. I said before this season started that I’d never felt this good about a Falcons team. I hate how this has turned out, not only because we’re in jeopardy of not getting 9 wins, but for Tony G. Remember what he said when we traded for him? “I’m here for one reason, and that’s to win a Super Bowl.”
I mean….I hate that Tony G. is as old as he is. I want him to get a playoff win more than anything, and this team continues to falter.
And it all comes down to one saying.
“When it rains, it pours.”
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
you shouldn't blame injuries
they can be a cause but not the real reason – there was no depth at most positions, and that’s our coaching and management fault. and the injury to your start QB… oh well, that’s the kind of risk any team bears
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
Normally I wouldn't
But we have an abnormally large amount of multi-game injuries. Name another team that would be winning missing that many people? How many backup QBs can perform as admirably as Rojohombre has, while missing your #1 running back, and two starting OL?
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
the Eagles, for one.
OG Shawn Andrews – Probably expected to be a starter, was put on IR without getting into a single game this year.
MLB Stewart Bradley – Starting Middle Linebacker, put on IR in pre-season.
MLB Omar Gaither – Replacement for Bradley went on IR after 5 games.
CB Ellis Hobbs – Nickle Cornerback went on IR after 8 games.
CB Joselio Hanson – #4 Cornerback suspended for 4 games.
RB Brian Westbrook – Has only played in 6 games this year because of multiple concussions.
WR Kevin Curtis – Has only played in 2 games this year because of knee problems.
OG Todd Herremans – Another starting Guard missed first 5 games because of foot fracture.
That doesn’t even count guys that have only missed a few games, like: QB Donovan McNabb, WR DeSean Jackson, OLB Akeem Jordan, DT Trevor Laws, etc; or guys on IR that I don’t know if they’re big contributors to the team yet, like: DE Amon Gordon, TE Cornelius Ingram, and OT Fenuk Tupou.
I don’t think we have an abnormally large amount of multi-game injuries. That’s just what happens in the NFL. Gemini’s right – good teams have the depth to compete even after they get bit by the injury bug. We aren’t there yet.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
by orang3b on Dec 14, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what makes some teams different is that they already built the system
and once they have it built, even if a key player gets hurt, they can plug in a back up or even someone from a street and STILL find a way to win. look at how many defensive starters were down for the Eagles and they were still good.
Look at the saints – once they lost both of their top corners, they brought in some veterans with little preparation, and still were ok. not that these players can challenge starters for the job, but they do well anyway.
We are still building the system, and as much as I would love to see both coordinators go in the offseason, that scares me – will we spend another year trying to find our identity?
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
well ...
it is not really anyone’s “fault” at this point.
TD (and no other GM for that matter) cannnot reasonably be expected to rebuild a team in a year. If you want to blame someone for the lack of depth, blame hewhodraftedhewhosenameshallnotbespoken.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
Blame hewhosenameshallnotbespokenthatleechedanabsurdamountofoursalarycapandkepthisbonusesforhisgreedyassself.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
by Zippo729 on Dec 13, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well, actually I may have been little too harsh
I agree it shouldn’t be someone’s fault. it’s just bad karma, and we were in it the moment the schedule was announced for this season. I’m sure this snowball of injuries had something to do with this 4th week bye and so many games against fresh teams.
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
I have to
give a good portion of the blame to the OC. We had the momentum and then he calls that wildcat play and sets us back to 2nd and 22 with 4 minutes left in the game. He does that way too oftern for my taste. I’m still proud of our players. Bright spot for me was seeing Owens out there.
I agree ...
I was talking about the lack of depth.
In my humble but accurate opinion, Mularkey and BVG lost their jobs today.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
BVG especially.
31/40 passing, no turnovers for Brees and the Saints O. Granted, there was a pick nullified by a questionable PI, but those not on the sheets don’t count.
I’d fire them both.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
They lost BVG last week
I was all over BVG last week and the defense. I know the defense is young, but their is no ingenuity on defense. No changing defensive game plans. If the defense is poor in coverage and cant apply pressure on the QB, then blitz more often, Try more lineman stunt, try something to confuse an offense. Bend but dont break defense is lame! all I see are yards piling up, long pass plays, no qb sacks, and no passes defended. I dont care what it takes, find a defensive coordinator who can scheme a solid game plan.
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by Edgecrusher211 on Dec 13, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Don't Break, Bend Over
I think the “bend don’t break” strategy only works if the team also has a highly-proficient offense. Then the idea is that your team will score quickly and with a high red-zone conversion rate, while the other team will spend lots of time on the field but with a low conversion rate.
In the best games, the D gets lots of turnovers as the other team starts playing from behind; in the average games, the other team will get lots of yardage but fall short; in the worst games, you wind up in a shootout.
The Falcons went into this year thinking the offense would be highly proficient, and it just hasn’t been. I don’t think the coordinators have adjusted well, but I also think we shouldn’t neccessarily change the strategy.
by Ed Edwina on Dec 14, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
wildcat...
Wildcat without a threat to throw is a play destined to lose.
Especially
when they’re blitzing both CB’s (like on the long TD to Jenkins). Somebody should’ve seen that and called at Timeout (they still had all 3 at that point) to get out of that play.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Here's to next season
retool…restart…realize…retreat
And BTW…Redman will finish out
the season with Snelling behind him.
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions
honestly, i don't think the team is too far off
from where it needs to be. we have just barely landed on the L side of the scale for a handful of games. a better pass rush and a number one corner would make a huge difference and we would have probably 4 of those L’s in the W column. In the meantime, i hope we can just get a winning season.. it’s a weight that has been carried too long.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions
Not sure who played better for the Saints today...
Brees or the refs. I hope Coach Smith is as mad after the game as he was during it.
And where’s Jerious? I really don’t understand why he’s not playing a bigger part right now.
(By the way, the secondary would look A LOT better if we had a pass rush. The best DBs in the league can’t cover a WR forever).
Jerious should've been in on that 4th down play.
But what do I know. I’m just a fan.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
No Shame in This Loss
The Saints are a very good team, and we still battled very valiantly. We’re not a bad team by any stretch of the imagination. But the defense has not come around the way we hoped.
At least we’re not in the same position we were in two years ago. We have a phenomenal base to build off of. Let’s finish this season on a high note and take it into the off-season.
I disagree, vehemently.
There is intense shame in this loss. The last two possessions with which we were in a position and able to make a difference in both our season and history, they laid down and choked.
Choked. Choked, choked, CHOKED.
This team needs to be ashamed.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
They need to be put on that pedastal thing and insulted for many hours.
Like back in the Monty Python days.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
No, that's "capital" punishment.
HA!!! I crack me up up some days.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
hmmmmm...
Scary to think we’d be happy with a nine-win season, and two winning years
in a row.
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions
Considering it's never happened, I don't find it unreasonable.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
I agree
Definitely not unreasonable.
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
We're not an elite team
It takes time to build that. Not one season. Heck even the Steelers are falling apart before our eyes.
We’re going in the right direction, we just didn’t have the pieces of the puzzle assembled like we needed them to be. But we’re far from off the right path.
by LetsGoFalcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
We want Suh!!!! We want Suh!!!!!!!!!!!!
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM EST reply actions
Good luck since he will likely be taken 1 or 2
by LetsGoFalcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Man, do we ever!
Maybe the NFL is really bad at math….
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I was talking about this earlier today...
Package our 2010 and 2011 first rounders, and a couple 3rd or 4th rounders to move up and take him? I’d do it.
He could potentially solve all our pass rushing woes
And we could deal Babineaux instead of a couple of picks, perhaps, and make that deal a little sweeter. Doubt it happens, but Suh could be dominant….
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Suh/Jerry would be a freaking nightmare
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
He might end up on the Bucs. He'd be a great young piece to build around.
Which is scary, to say the least.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
Sapp was bigger, though, wasn't he?
Suh’s barely 300.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
How did Jerry injure himself?
In the CAR game, the camera never showed the end of the play when he got hurt. All I saw he was jumping up to perhaps deflect the pass, and the he was down.
by brotherbrown on Dec 16, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions
We need HiDef back!
he gave the offense a spark it seemed to be missing this season. he is explosive!! but D is definitely more pressing..
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions
That's a great point
I really think the lack of a reliable slot receiver has hindered the offense. It’s great having TG but if we had him AND HD the offense wouldn’t have struggled as much. It’s so useful having a fast guy like HD underneath.
by LetsGoFalcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
Like I said in the game thread
I live in Panther land. I just watched Wes Welker DESTROY the Panthers. I wish HD wasn’t hurt. :(
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
I dunno
They definitely didn’t use him much early in the season, but they seem to be using Weems in a similar role to what HD was doing last year – a few passes out of the slot, a reverse/end-around every once in a while, etc. Considering the addition of Tony G bumping the #3 WR down another notch on the list of options in the game-plan, I think they’re fairly comparable:
HD in ’08: 23 receptions, 12 runs.
Weems in ’09: 6 receptions, 6 runs.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
hey no shame
we are building a team. we have a chance to win 9 games.
next here we get healthy, are young guys are one more year’s maturity, and we pick up a few extra pieces in the draft.
we have no reason to hang our heads. can be the best every year, but you can improve each year, and that’s what we are doing.
plus cheers our effort, no one has laid down. i’m as proud of this team as any.
by dirtyburs on Dec 13, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
As much as I hate losing, I have to agree with you. We’re still building, as much of an excuse as that sounds like. Remember, this is a 3 year plan. We’re in year 2.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
That's a great point too
We could have quit without most of our starters in the game. But we didn’t. With the exception of last week, this team makes the games competitive week in and week out. If they just aren’t quite good enough, I can live with that. But I can’t live with a team that just quits and doesn’t come close to its potential.
by LetsGoFalcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Glad it's not a Five Year Plan
Last time I saw one of those, the Soviet Union went…whoops.
Fell down, went boom. :)
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I laughed so hard at this.
Rec’d for makin me feel better. So many Recs today.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
The only player in the draft that can actually save the Defense is.....
Javier Arenas CB from Alabama. That guy is such a stud at that position. The playmaker we need of Defense. Hopefully he slips up to us
by !AtlFalcons-fan! on Dec 13, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions
I actually agree. He's a beast.
And he plays on a hard-nosed defense, just like Smitty likes. I completely agree if we get him.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
i'd be down with that
and i like saying ‘Javier!’
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
As a diehard Bama fan
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement.
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by Adam Schultz on Dec 13, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, now that I think about it
He is rather short, isn’t he? I don’t want another Grimes :(
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
No. Without a D-line, CB doesn't matter.
Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson would look like crap on this team. No pass rush, no poor decisions by QB’s.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
the thing about that is
I’m not sure if he’ worth a 1st round pick. And i don’t know if he’d slip to the 3rd round.
the only highlights i can find about him
are Punt Returns. What has he done on Defense?
by brotherbrown on Dec 16, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Good point, Fan
He also can return kicks when necessary
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:42 PM EST reply actions
Have a good one, all
Draft ’em up!
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 13, 2009 4:45 PM EST reply actions
It's not like we can face a better offense
We go from the Saints to the Bills. The Bills are the perfect remedy for an ailing bird.
Spirit the Hawk for DB petition, go
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
but our D makes
Josh Freeman look like Drew Brees and makes Drew Brees look like Superman Ryan Fitzpatrick is gonna look like Drew Brees to
I'm not worried about the Bills. I reckon we'll have some injured players back.
I think it’s time we reasserted ourselves as somethin fierce. This team refuses to quit, no matter how crappy it looks. I love it. It resembles our fiery coach, and that’s good.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
The play calling
is questionable. Again with that dumb wildcat. I blame the OC for this lost…again. He puts us in the most ridiculous situations. We had the momentum to drive down the field and he comes up with some wildcat-double reverse call. WHAT?
I was floored after that call
I didn’t know what to think. That was as dumb as the Saints fake FG call.
The refs certainly didn’t help us this game either. That PI call on the interference was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen.
Also, why not try to get the ball to Gonzo on that 4th and 2. At least have Norwood in there… seriously.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 13, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
The fake FG was a good play call.
It seriously was. Think about it.
If you make it, you seal the game. If you miss it, the Falcons get the ball on their own 15 (better than a touchback and 99% unlikely to happen on a kickoff). If you kick a FG, a Touchdown still wins the game, regardless, because you only go up 6 points. Payton didn’t want to risk having Special Weems have a great return. As a coach, which would you rather have:
1) Opposing team down by 3, starting at their own 15, 2 minute drill, or
2) Opposing team down by 6, starting at their own 40, 2 minute drill.
If you say 2, you better think again.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
Good point
But still, if you’re going for it why not just let Brees handle it after he torched our secondary all game? The odds were much greater there that he would convert that down, over a cold Mark Brunell.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 13, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
maybe, but even Brees would have a hard time converting 4th and 20, i believe it was
a surprise play like that might have a better chance.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
Ya know you may have deserved to win that but ya'll lost alot of respect
I thought your organization had more class then to play a guy who just got busted with all that weed just a few days ago apparently the Falcons didnt learn any lessons from the Vick fiasco.
But i guess i should expect that from a franchise who’s fans root for an opposing QB running up the score(Vick)
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 6:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Keep in mind
That the Saints would’ve probably done the same thing if our roles were reversed. Most teams let guys go through the legal process before there’s a suspension. Remember the assault fiasco last season with the two Saints players?
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Falcons should have sat Babs.
I don’t agree with playing that guy. But he played well so maybe he’s trade bait? IDK. It’s not like the rest of the NFL didn’t see the news…
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 7:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Generalizaion ruins credibility.
Don’t let the door hit ya on the way out.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
Generalization*
my typing is horribad. I’m still sulking over yet another episode of What Could’ve Been (Starring Kevin Bacon)
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
come on
There isn’t another team in the NFL that wouldn’t have played him in our position.
It’s a legal issue, and he has come out and said he isn’t guilty. Whether or not I believe that is irrelevant. The legal process will handle this, and the team will deal with it from there.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 13, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ever heard the expression "innocent until proven guilty"?
I guess the 14th Amendment’s Due Process clause does not apply in NO.
It’s a shame that Saints fans like you exist, because you make your entire fan base look like a bunch of t.v. shooting, inbred, voodoo worshiping idiots. Oh, by the way, you suck at life.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
You are a clown
You are so quick to compromise your morals to satisfy your need for a win in a game
I wonder does that mean if your child got caught the same way you would over look it if it benefited you in some way
The whole mentality is why so many proffesinal athletes are thugs
It is your way of thinking that allowed the like’s of Michael Vick to flurish
And when you run out of things to say you resort to name calling that shows you lack of education and knowledge
I may suck at life you will never know if i do or not but you have the mentality of pre pubesent teenager I hope your not over 12 or your life is surely a mess
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dumb troll is dumb.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
Actually, instead of keeping my mouth shut like I was going to do, I'll tell you something.
The irony in your post is amusing.
Compromising of morals? Babs is innocent until proven guilty, as Franky believes. There was no moral compromised. YOU and YOUR attitude are assuming him to be guilty just because he was ACCUSED. People like you make me sick. You jump at the first sign of an accusation when it comes to someone else and you are quick to point out someone else’s flaws but hide behind your own like an insecure child.
Please, take your troll attitude elsewhere. Neither I nor anyone else here has time for it.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
This isn't a court of law
It’s public opinion. Sit the guy.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You know I like you xen ...
but y’all do have your own board where he could say anything he wanted about our organization. But he did it here. Makes it a little different IMO.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
The comments are not acceptable,
but it doesn’t make what babs did okay.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely not ...
but in the grand scheme of things, it isn’t like he killed anyone. He did something that was incredibly selfish, and I hope he’ll grow from the experience, but he’s no Ray Lewis.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
Hey, Vick didn't kill anyone either.
It just wouldn’t have made much difference if he’d been suspended. Considering how much crap the Falcons have gone through it’s just insane to me that Blank is still so forgiving of these transgressions. Last week everyone was all excited about speeding tickets. But this is much worse.
It really didn’t make any difference. That Babs guy can play, but it’s not like there is even an ends to justify the means. Nothing was gained by playing the guy. I lost a little more respect for Blank.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agree to disagree friend ...
I’m proud of Blank for the tough decisions he’s made the past few year, and while I appreciate your reasoned approach to disagreeing with me (and others), I did not lose any respect for him today.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
CONSPIRACY THEORY!
but I notice a lot of the Home Depot employees look like they are also doing the ganga at lunch time. Connection to Blank’s attitude on this?! ;)
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hey xen and missippi dickey
none of the fans here made the decision to play babs. but good call with the geneaology of morality discussion. not.
but we sure are impressed with your morals.
sarcasm intended.
legalize drugs=
side note
Finally somebody said it.
it IS all about the legalization of the 420! Now you have to get the NFL to take it out of their policy first and then get it legalized by the State ‘o GA and you’ve got it!
by xen-cuts on Dec 14, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In any case, it comes down to ethics.
I can be suspended or even fired activities that are perfectly legal but unethical. Every position has an ethical standard to which its occupant needs to be held. Drop below the ethical standar and be subject to sanctions.
The sanctions need not be publicised. “We’re handling this internally” should be an acceptable response. Babs needs to be held accountable for his actions, but not for the benefit of the public, necessarily.
How many more days, Lord, must I walk through the wilderness?
GO FALCONS!!!
no, no he's right
we should have followed the Saints lead when they suspended the players SUSPECTED of using banned substances before their guilt was determined. oh wait… we did!
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
diet pills =/= narcotics
and two players from the Vikings got off for the same offense based on some state law. I still don’t know why the Saints got screwed on that. Your analogy to individual players trying to lose weight for weekly weigh in penalties is not appropriate. You can’t just mix and match cases and make yourself feel better. Look at the facts and make the moral decision. This shows bad judgment on the part of the Falcons org post Vick.
Do you really think that Babs shouldn’t get punishment for using? There are serious moral problems in the way this is approached here. The Falcons don’t need to wait for some legal penalties to come down. It’s about public opinion and perception. The organization is losing and trying to get players out onto the field despite moral problems is just wrong. Not to mention that it’s a felony offense and most people would lose their jobs or at least be suspended while the legal process worked its way through the facts. I just don’t understand why the Falcons would get greedy at this point in the season. How many times does Blank have to get burned?
Not to mention that the Falcons lost anyway. Now they lost twice.
There are probably people on every team who do stupid stuff like this. If they are dumb enough to get caught then the team has to take action. That’s just good business for the whole league.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol. marijauna is not a narcotic
regarding the diet pills, did anyone besides the player themselves know they were just trying to lose weight instead of mask steroid use? no, that’s why there is a process in place. just like there is a process in place for Babs. he will be dealt with by law enforcement, the nfl and the team at the appropriate times.
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Actually the narcotic debate is a waste of time.
It’s just semantics. In short, marijuana is considered a narcotic in some cases and not in others. It is especially considered to be a non-narcotic in Cali and sometimes in the city of Atlanta (lol.)
Regardless of what you call it, marijuana is a controlled substance and it’s a felony to have as much as Babs did. Next, you should be critical of Arthur Blank for letting this slide. Babs’s process is getting suspended and then ADDITIONALLY getting penalties. The Falcons need the PR points as much as they need touchdowns. I’m tired of this league being called a thug league. And I’m tired of highly paid athletes screwing around like this. There is no due process argument to keeping Babs playing today. It’s just a lame PR move and the Falcons just lost anyway.
Stop trying to deflect. I’m not saying the Saints players were not wrong. They have nothing to do with this. In addition, the metaphorical comparison isn’t even close.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think we could go around on this forever
But let’s face it, most of the organizations in the league would do exactly the same thing the Falcons did today. Their playoff hopes were on the line and they knew they needed Babineaux on defense. Guys who have been caught with steroids and other banned substances in the past have not been suspended by the team, and that goes for other drugs too. As much as we’d like to pretend morals drive the NFL, they don’t unless the offense is so reprehensible that teams cannot possibly ignore them.
What Babineaux ALLEGEDLY (there’s the reporter in me) did was stupid, and there could be a lot coming down the line here. But let’s not pretend that every team has a moral police force that comes down on these guys, because they don’t. Take a look around the league (linger on the Bengals, maybe) and you’ll see plenty of teams who have come to the same conclusion.
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most teams?
i hate that hypothetical argument. Blank had a chance to make a statement, but it’s the Vick-with-secret-compartment-in-water-bottle thinking that has him looking the other way again. When this stuff happens, you gotta wonder what else is there. What’s next?
And if any team (including the Saints) make the bone headed pr move to not punish this offense, I can’t defend them either. You sit the guy for at least a game just for bringing shame to you. I mean, that sends him a message. F babs for making me have this conversation.
The Bengals are just a disaster. You could see how poorly that team was run on that HBO show. Don’t aspire to those sorts of comparisons.
I’m not pretending that morals drive the NFL. I dont’ think they drive sports at all. Tiger Woods would probably be in fine shape now if he wasn’t insistent on torching his personal life. But as a fan I expect the Saints to run a clean shop. I was pretty pissed about the D-linemen who screwed up the diet pills. I wanted them to go to court and either get exonerated or cut their asses. In the end we (the Saints) got the somewhat arbitrary NFL suspension while the Vikings went to court and got off. I think that set the tone for when those other Saints players caused some trouble at a bar. Cut em. Don’t even let players who make stupid decisions be on your team. I feel bad for those guys personally. They were on an NFL roster for a little while. But they were not going to enhance the Saints team. There aren’t many players who are worth looking the other way to keep playing. Are the Falcons really that thin on the D-line? It didn’t look like it today and not because Babs was playing.
I know y’all want to defend the Falcons. I respect that huge. Heck, it makes me like you more as fans. But if y’all think babs should be out there under these conditions, especially considering all the bs you just went through that destroyed your team, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
I want to win, but I want to believe in the wins we get. BS like that from babs cheapens it for me. The less baggage the better.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So essentially you want Blank to....
Bench Babs because of an accusation?
That is unfair to the accused because he hasn’t been proven guilty yet. You’re assuming he’s guilty, but you weren’t there to see it. Did he do it? I’m sure he probably did, but as someone who wasn’t there, I can’t bring the hammer down on him for that. The correct way to handle the situation is exactly what they’re doing. They’re letting it play out the correct way, which is innocent until given a fair trial and proven guilty. That doesn’t taint it at all. It might taint it after he’s found guilty, but don’t make assumptions unless you were there.
In the grand scheme of things, how bad is smoking weed? I mean really? People use it for medicine. I don’t even really consider that to be a big deal, to be honest. Marijuana users crowd prisons and more often than not they get thrown in for the minimum time.
I would consider misusing diet pills more extreme than smoking weed. In no way does smoking weed affect Babs performance in a positive way. How can you say what Babs did cheapens it when he did something so minor, and it doesn’t even enhance his performance? So he made a dumb mistake? We’re all humans, we all make mistakes, it’s just that his gets blown way outta proportion because he’s a pro football player. Ricky Williams smoked weed. A lot of weed. You think anyone on the Phins cares now? Hell no. You think anyone on the Falcons cares about what Babs did now? I guarantee the only concerned people are Smith, Comrade and Blank. That’s it. The players don’t care, because they’re adults and know that sometimes, that’s just how life goes.
/rant.
"Ryan, under center. Single receiver set, time on his side. Ryan, gonna throw. First professional pass.....CAUGHT!! Jenkins! 30! 25! 20! 15! 10! 5! He lives in Atlanta!!!" -Wes Durham
Yes, I want Blank to bench Babs to send a message to Babs
and to the fans. I personally don’t care and I’m not trying to even talk about my own morals here. I’m talking about the right way to do things for business and for giving the team a positive direction.
To run a business properly, you have to come down on/get rid of people who can’t follow the rules and fit in. In particular, the Falcons look like a mismanaged pos to me now. They’ll just look the other way at all costs. Good teams don’t do that. That doesn’t mean I have anything personally against babs, your pot smoking in college, last night, whatever. I’m not commenting on those moral values. I’m commenting on the moral values of the business. I’m just saying that you fans should expect more. I can’t fathom why you would even bother defending this kind of bs because you gain nothing from it.
Look, it’s not like Babs was just arbitrarily accused by some 15-minutes of fame random person or something. The police found some felonious amount of the stuff in his car. It’s alleged because he hasn’t been convicted, but do you really think he can get out of this? If he does it’s on some bs mishandling of evidence or something—not because he didn’t do it. And just for bringing the embarrassment to Blank, to you as a fan, to the Falcons organization, to the NFL, he should be punished. Heck, his game check could pay quite a few home depot employees salaries for the year!
The correct way is to suspend the guy and send a message to other players that they can’t quit on a winnable season. Waiting for criminal sanctions to come down is a thin excuse to hide behind. Let me explain the investigation: “Hi ATL police, did you find some marijauna in Babs’s car? Tell me about it.” Cops: “Yes, it was in his glove box. We did a search incident to speeding. He claimed it was not his. We arrested him and he was released on bail.” Admittedly I don’t know the specifics, but that pretty much sums up how it works. There isn’t a lot of gray area. As a fan I know you want to see some gray, but get the wool out of your eyes. You have several other good players on the roster. Cheer for the guys who give a crap about your season, about your team, about your organization, about their careers…the ones who follow the rules and work hard to to their best. And don’t make excuses for slackers like babs.
a narcotic is a drug synthesized from opiates.
i’m not sure what kind you have been smoking but, normal marijuana does not fall in that category. :D
anyway, i appreciate your opinion but, apparently the league nor the falcons organization feels the way you do. we fans really have no say in the situation.
i’ll stop now..
Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that. - Bill Shankly
by armchair quarterback on Dec 13, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
look at the sentence before the one you copied from wikipedia. Then you can get into what is and isn’t called narcotic legally at the federal level in the USA, other countries, etc. It’s a mess trying to figure out that definition. And once you get to any sort of conclusion it’s just a name. Doesn’t mean anything.
The league has a chance to do something still. The Falcons, I lost some respect for Blank. Lame move.
I respect you and your fellow fans just fine and we’ll have to agree to disagree. Good luck for rest of season! I’ve been reading too much gloom and doom from this webpage, too. Y’all still have a solid chance for playoffs and a winning season. Y’all are in great shape here.
by xen-cuts on Dec 13, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You can't be serious about "diet pills"
The “banned substance” in question is a “very strong diuretic” that is used as a masking agent (for PED’s or {gasp} marijuana). here. Just because the NFL was so stupid to give them the OK before they took it, and their policy therefore apparently won’t allow them to suspend the guys in the StarCaps case, doesn’t mean that there wasn’t something fishy going on.
Babs will get suspended when all the charges get sorted out. Spare us the preaching – you guys still won the game.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
The NFL screwed that case entirely
it’s not related to Babs. I don’t know why it keeps being brought up. The procedural mistakes made by the NFL in that case make it so inapplicable here. Bringing up that case is just deflecting the real discussion.
So
They get off on a technicality, and that makes it OK? The way you’re talking about Babs, I would think you’d have argued for the team to sit Grant and Smith (whether they were cleared by the NFL or not) so the organization wouldn’t lose your “respect”. I mean, they did fail a test for a “banned substance”. Or that you would argue the team should’ve suspended Vilma for his arrest in the off-season:
1/16/2009: Jonathan Vilma, New Orleans. LB Arrested, charged with resisting arrest and reckless driving in Miami. Charges dropped in exchange for $1,000 donation to charity and agreement to clear up outstanding tickets.
Maybe if Babs gives some money to charity you’ll feel better. The reality is that Babineaux will get suspended when this gets sorted out.
11/29/2008: Shaun Ellis, N.Y. Jets DE. Arrested, charged with marijuana possession and speeding after being pulled over in New Jersey.
He was suspended for the first game of this season. That’s how this works.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Wow
At least you’re sticking to your guns.
Santonio Holmes – suspended/inactive because he told the cops “that he had smoked marijuana in the vehicle the day before” when pulled over. It was also at least his third arrest/charge (scape with the law) since joining the Steelers.
Jonathan Babineaux – not suspended because he insists that “you will see I’m not guilty”. Whether he’s trying to pin it on the guy that was in the vehicle with him, I don’t know… I do know that if he is found guilty, then he’ll serve a suspension.
"Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." - Aaron Levenstein
Maybe he was smoking salvia
And he thought the cop was an elephant made of peanut butter.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 15, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Lack of education?
Read the Constitution … it’s called due process of law. He’s innocent until proven guilty. You’re the one that came on our board to insult us after your team won. Who has the mentality of a pre-pubescent teenager? Oh, by the way, your grammar and spelling suck.
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
I say we give mississippisaintsfan a break
After all, picking your nose and eating the boogers DOES give you brain damage after you do it for a decade or two. I bet he gets those fingers up there to the third knuckle by now.
by tom slick on Dec 13, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
Reporter: How will you address all of the dropped passes?
Mike Smith: I don’t think that we were as sharp as we have been catching the football. It’s something that is very fixable. It’s VERY fixable.
This entire discussion is giving me a headache
Just nobody kill anyone, please.
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by Dave Choate on Dec 13, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Double-edged
I thought your organization had more class then to play a guy who just got busted with all that weed just a few days ago
And I thought Saints fans had enough class not to go and kick people when they’re already down and hurting.
No, just kidding. I knew you didn’t.
Please feel free to go away. And check your spelling while you’re at it.
by Mad Molecule on Dec 13, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still excited going forward
As bad as I feel now, when I looked at this schedule I picked us to go 9-7. It’s been a brtual year all around. I think, and hope, that the team will grow from this. We have to be luckier next year, be it with the schedule, injuries, or (hopefully) both. TD also gets another offseason to bolster the defense and our o-line, and we’ll be back in business.
Next year should be a good year.
Ah the life of a Falcons fan. At least I actually believe the “we’ll get em next year” statement, unlike years past.
by LongSufferingFalconsFan on Dec 13, 2009 6:44 PM EST reply actions
Some positives...
Redman looks pretty good.
Jenkins is awesome.
White is good.
Your D-line is solid.
And (from way too much experience in cheering for the Saints) the top draft pick is a dilemma. Better to be outside of the T14. Heck, get a 1st rounder and trade it.
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And for cheering, cheer for the Falcs to win out, to put together some good games. to work some promising bench players into the mix, to get ready for a minor roster overhaul and another run next year! Thanks for a fun couple games and best of luck for the rest of your season!!!
Redman
I was vey upset with redman’s play last week, but he played his a@@ off today. Defense wasn’t that bad either. If we didn’t have that wildcat play at the end we might of had a chance.
I agree
He looked competent again, and it was very nearly enough to get us there.
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both Redman and Ryan
have done well against struggling defenses. they have yet to prove (this year) that they can handle the pressure that comes with a top-tier defense (like Skins, Eagles, etc.).
Atlanta Falcons fan in Moscow, Russia
Highlight of the entire game
after that BS pass interference call on Grimes, Brees threw incomplete in the end zone. The camera went over to Mike Smith, and you could read his lips saying, “Incomplete, mother f***ers!”
for you guys who get to attend the games in person
I havent seen Moore or Jerry watching on the sidelines – are they there?
Pleased!
Considering the Falcons are totally beat up, they played great today. Granted they couldnt defend any passes, or rush the passer, but it was better than last weeks performance. I dont agree with losing games, The Falcons need a corner, and there arent great ones coming out this year. As far as Mays, The Falcons don’t need a saftey that can’t cover anyone. I would rather have Berry if anything. As far as the draft, they have no second rounder which sucks. Im sure they can trade a couple of guys, just to get a few extra picks.
I think my tagline says it all baby!!
"And their 1st pick in the 2010 NFL draft...The Atlanta Falcons select Derrick Morgan DE- Georgia Tech"
I am not pleased with the loss
We could have won that game and the Saints tried their best to give it to us. The refs sure did seem to want to make sure that NO won the game though. Bad call on Grimes INT and the no face mask call on Redman right before half time. Oh well, can’t do anything about that. The kicker was the poor play calling on the last two drives. A WILDCAT!! Seriously, a freaking WILDCAT!! How well did that stupid play work in the past couple of games? Not well at all. Then Redman tried to get the yardage back and threw the INT. When we got the ball back Redman threw an eight yard pass on 3rd and 10, and then a one yard pass on 4th and 2. That was the game. Mularkey is an idiot and should go.
A new OC and focus on the defense will go a long way for next season.
The Refs sucked huge.
I don’t know who was favored by the bad calls in the end. There were a lot of ‘em. Saints played terrible. I’m kind of disappointed in them after the past few weeks.
Lots of positives...
Last year we caught a lot of breaks and made it to 11-5. This year we’ve not caught the breaks and still will have a decent season and an outside shot to make the playoffs with 3 weeks left…After 2 years ago, I’m ok with that…BTW, I thought Chris Owens got better as the game went along, and DeCoud is coming around…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
Everyone saying....
We’re building a team, we’re buiding a team. Let’s not forget that we had decent players before the 2007 debacle. 2008 was not a suprise to me. What was a suprise is that they only added one piece to the offense, The defense came in suspect
Atlanta will win a championship....someday
A realistic shot at playoffs still...
First, give GB the first wild card spot
Most likely give ATL the second spot if…
ATL wins last three games (possible with @Jets, Bills, @Bucs)
DAL loses last three games (possible with @Saints, @Redskins, Eagles)
NYG loses at least 2 games
Dallas doesn’t win December games and NYG is playing badly.
I don't see Dallas losing to Washington....
But it could happen,…
"If lessons were learned in defeat, our team is getting a great education." -Murray Warmath
oh yeah
Dallas only beat Washington by one point, at the last minute of the game 7-6 in Dallas.
Since then Washington has improved on both offense and defense, and Dallas doesn’t play well in December as you know.
by brotherbrown on Dec 16, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Visualize with me...
Cut To Jim Mora Sr.
playoffs? PLAYOFFS??? sputters and shakes head…
PLAYOFFS???
FADE TO SEE YOU NEXT SEASON
by please before I die, Falcons on Dec 14, 2009 8:27 AM EST reply actions
and oh, BTW
The Falcons have always needed corners…and we draft safeties.
Pass rush? Get a run-stuffer a biscuit away from 400 pounds.
And the coup de gras…with all the money tied up in Ryan and Turner,
there’s no way they further risk them this season. We beat the Saints
yesterday-they’re there next week. Fuggeddaboutit.
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